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message for Jean McLaren by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 29-Dec-2014
Hi Jean, just been catching up after a period off the web. I see that you posted a message for me which,due to problems at that time I did not see. I do opologise but after the attempted hacking of my old PC I scrapped the lot with no damage done.
I now have a new 'everything' but am reluctant to put email addresses out on show as I'm sure you will understand. In the not too distant future Pat an... more >>
  
  • Re: message for Jean McLaren by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Dec-2014
    Welcome back Jim I suspected there was a problem and you have my sympathy It happened to me too I decided to replace my ten year old computer with a laptop and it took a while to get to grips with the new system I felt really incompetent!
    I have been in Inverness several times since I sent the message Jim but let me know and I'll do my best to make it
    Every Good Wish for the rest of the festi... more >>

  • Re: message for Jean McLaren by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 9-Jan-2015
    Hi there, how did the weather treat you last night? We were lucky, just lost s bird table and have one gutter looking a bit dodgy. Guy across the road found that his caravan had made an attempted run for it but not much damage. An unfinished barn just down the road had both its gable ends blown over, its owner lives in Wales. We lost power around 3-45am until 11-10am Had the log burning stove lit ... more >>

  • Re: message for Jean McLaren by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 11-Jan-2015
    Greetings from Moray Jim Yes we too had really stormy weather although it appears the west coast got the worst of it We also lost power late morning today for a couple of hours Though only our little village was affected for some strange reason because it has been much calmer today But all in all We expected it to be much worse according to all the hype Our many bins were rolling around the gar... more >>

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Bury Street. Gorton by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 23-Dec-2014
Is there anyone else on Gorton Knowhere site who lived in Bury Street off Cambert Lane (Church Lane).   
  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Dec-2014
    Helen,
    I lived at 65 Cambert Lane between 1960 and 1970, but the house was directly opposite Rowsley Street and facing Stanley Lumb's Chemist's.

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 24-Dec-2014
    I didn't live in Bury street, but my grandma. uncle, auntie and their families did. The Walkers at No 26, Grandma Farrell at No 30 and
    the Farrells at No 48. I can only remember my grandma either in bed or in a wooden wheelchair. My mother used to go and see
    her nearly every day and i had to go too.

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by Kevin Farricker (Member 10298403) on 2-Jan-2015
    Ilived in Bury street not at the Church Lane end but at the other end.We lived at No. 40, my cousins the Flemings at No. 36, and the Jones my aunt and uncle at No. 50

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    I lived at no 23, my cousin Sally Heelham married Albert Fleming

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by Kevin Farricker (Member 10298403) on 4-Jan-2015
    Albert was married to my cousin Florence(Flo). He remarried after she died.

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 6-Jan-2015
    I was only young when i visited Bury Street with my mother but i do remember the names of Simpson and Fleming. When i started work
    in 1960 i was given a job by my uncle, Jimmy Farrell. He was a foreman at Moores Hat Factory in Denton i was only there a few
    short months before i moved on to become an engineering apprentice. Whilst at Moores hat factory i was put with a Man called
    Frank Farric... more >>

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 8-Jan-2015
    hello Dave I'm a relic from WEST Gorton and nothing remains of our old stomping ground so your little story linking the past to the Moores name on the chimney struck a chord and I thought how lovely it is that something of you still remains

  • Re: Bury Street. Gorton by Kevin Farricker (Member 10298403) on 20-Jan-2015
    Hi Dave I worked at Moores after you left knew your uncle Jimmy. Frank was my brother and yes our sister May worked there too as did most of my family through the years.I live in Denton and whenever I walk past the old factory it brings back lots of good memories.

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The City I Grew Up In by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Dec-2014
A lot of things have happened in the city I grew up in
It started with the Romans long ago
A team of Gorton scallies started pelting them with bricks
And they very quickly pissed off back to Rome

Next it was the Vikings bent on plunder rape a... more >>
  
  • Re: The City I Grew Up In by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Dec-2014
    Good one Bill, Merry Christmas old friend.

  • Re: The City I Grew Up In by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 23-Dec-2014
    The old place may be gone william
    nowt of it may remain
    But in our hearts and minds Billy
    our Gorton stays the same

    May you and all who read this have a Peaceful Happy Christmas

  • Re: The City I Grew Up In by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Dec-2014
    Jean
    Have a look on facebook for "Poems and Ditties About Gorton and Other Things." Just set up by Bob Moore who has been on this site for ever and now lives down under.

  • Re: The City I Grew Up In by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 24-Dec-2014
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone on Gorton Nowhere. Hope its a good one.xxx

  • Re: The City I Grew Up In by Robert (Bob) Moore (Member 10099906) on 7-Jan-2015
    If anyone wants me to add any of their poems (or look at any I find and post) in the Group on Facebook Bill mentioned, let me know, and we will invite you to join, you can send any poems you want to slidemoves@iprimus.com.au but that gives me permission to post them

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was there a tree by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 19-Dec-2014
Christmas has become a festival of lights don't you think,the real meaning almost gone. ALMOST
Apart from town I don't remember street decorations (they're even in the smallest hamlets today) but was there a tree in Gorton
  
  • Re: was there a tree by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 19-Dec-2014
    Can't remember a tree in Gorton, if there was it was probably around the town hall area or Belle Vue. It seems to have become
    a competition in some places these days. Its all nice and Christmasy but as you say the meaning seems to have all but disappeared. Its
    all about technology now. Happy Christmas anyway.

  • Re: was there a tree by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 20-Dec-2014
    At least it is still called christmas, where I lived most houses had christmas lights adorning the outside of the house. Here in Spain it is very special our Christmas starts on 6th December because of the multi nationality of the people and ends as we do on 6th Januray.
    I can remember a tree outside the Lake Hotel many moons ago
    A special christmas wish to all the members from the residents of... more >>

  • Re: was there a tree by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Dec-2014
    I can never remember seeing Christmas Lights illuminating the streets of West Gorton or Gorton when I was a kid, but can just ablout remember those that were placed down Market Street in town.
    I can't remember the tree near the Lake Hotel, but Belle Vue usually had some small Christmas Trees on the roof above the Main Entrance on Hyde Road, opposite Belle Vue Street.
    Certainly on Clowes Street i... more >>

  • Re: was there a tree by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 28-Dec-2014
    Didn't there used to be a big Christmas tree, all lit up, outside the entrance to the Palm Court at Main Entrance of Belle Vue every Christmas ?

  • Re: was there a tree by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Dec-2014
    Jim,
    I think you're right, there was.

  • Re: was there a tree by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Dec-2014
    Hi John reading your earlier posting stirred my memory (It happens sometimes!) and I do now remember the line of christmas trees atop the entrance to Belle Vue but can't remember whether or not they had lights on them the shared memory gave me a warm glow however! Bestest Wishes for 2015

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The Wakes by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 8-Dec-2014
I have a vague memory of going to the wakes Just off Belle Vue street at the end of Gorton park there was a waste bit of ground there just below the ?fire station if my memory serves me right Oh the excitement! The wakes were in town! The sixpenny bit burnt a hole in the palm of my hand and from there on I could only watch others whooping it up on the swing boats the waltzer and
the dodgems Fun times!
  
  • Re: The Wakes by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 8-Dec-2014
    My new computer has frozen me out of the Gorton message board for ages but I have diddled and twiddled and maybe I am back with my ain folk. The only fairground I remember is the red rec on Gorton Lane.

  • Re: The Wakes by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 9-Dec-2014
    Welcome back then Billy I dread changing my computer I have like yourself become really frustrated and just when I reach that stage when I'm about to throw it .. Bingo I gain control It must be the gremlins! Anyway I bow to your better knowledge about the wakes but I wonder could it have been a one off then? What was the red rec and was I far out? Do you know why they were called the wakes

  • Re: The Wakes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Dec-2014
    Morning Jean and Bill,
    Yes, the only Wakes I remember (known as far as I remember as Gorton Wakes) were the ones that came to Casson Street Rec, off Gorton Lane near to Peacock Street School.
    It might have been the Collins' family who ran the Gorton Wakes, but I am not sure.
    There was a Fair that was subsequently held at Debdale Park, but I think that was after Gorton Wakes no longer took place.

  • Re: The Wakes by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 20-Dec-2014
    I remember the wakes at Gorton it was Silcocks, it used to be on two sites one was the red reck Casson Street, the other site was on a piece of waste land in West Gorton near the Monastry.
    Malcolm B.

  • Re: The Wakes by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 21-Dec-2014
    They were also known as Collins and used to stay for the winter on the Red rec and plug in to my husband (Alf Simpson ) mothers electric and pay her ten Bob. It was so exciting when they came, the Waltzers were fantastic.

  • Re: The Wakes by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Dec-2014
    Lovely to hear from you Hellen. Please give my regards to Alf and seasons greetings.

  • Re: The Wakes by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Dec-2014
    Sorry. Helen.

  • Re: The Wakes by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 22-Dec-2014
    Thanks William, we have just been reading some of your poetry it's fantastic and stirred so many memories. Happy Christmas to you and a healthy and wealthy New Year

  • Re: The Wakes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Dec-2014
    I remember local Gorton lads getting all steamed up when the lads who managed the rides (particularly the Waltzer) spend the evening leering at, and chattingn up, the local girls.
    The girls were always flattered by the attention, but there was the odd "ruck" when it proved too much for some lads and they waded in.
    All good fun.

  • Re: The Wakes by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 28-Dec-2014
    Hi folks,back from the great beyond. Decided to get rid of my ancient PC after an attempted hacking which was foiled-I'm happy to report! Have been struggling with a new laptop and a new provider--I know exactly what you mean about getting to know a new computer Billy. Anyway, glad that you are all going along OK and that you had a great Festive Season. Very quiet here, no snow but very cold, fros... more >>

  • Re: The Wakes by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 28-Dec-2014
    Not really the 'Wakes' but can anybody remember Chipperfields Circus coming to Platt Fields ? I'm certain my Mam took me when I was a kid, in my minds eye I can still the huge Big Top under which all the action took place. Jim.

  • Re: The Wakes by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Dec-2014
    And here I am again Jim! We moved to Fallowfield in Nov 1955 and to those unaware of its location
    our house was at the back of Platt Fields and I remember Chipperfields Circus I was one of those "Bisto" Kids you know the type always hanging around but never had any money!!!

  • Re: The Wakes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 4-Jan-2015
    To John Holmes.
    Hello John. Different subject I know, but do you recall Brooks furniture store at the top of Cross St (corner of Wellington Street

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Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
It is a well known fact that Gorton takes it name from two Saxon words "Gore" (muddy or dirty) and "Tun" (homestead) - derived from the fact that the (then) un-named Gore Brook ran through open countryside creating muddy conditions all those years ago, but little is known to date of where the Gore Brook actually begins.
The same can be said of the Corn Brook in Gorton and West Gorton, which obvi... more >>
  
  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 6-Dec-2014
    I'm afraid I can't contribute to this John but very interesting all the same I had never considered an earlier time in Gorton than ours! Hope all is well with you

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Dec-2014
    Hi Jean,
    Yes it's a fascinating story.
    It was only this year that my old mate Bill Briggs took Tony McMunn and I to a place near Pottery Lane where the Corn Brook still runs above ground (briefly) and my interest was sparked from that point.
    I will post here if we should get any further with our enquiries, but the story ol "old" Gorton is a really interesting one I think.

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 10-Dec-2014
    Corn Brook can be seen on Google Maps and can be traced upstream from Pottery Lane to the land behind Gorton Monastery at which point it runs under the railway embankment and can be seen on the north side for a short distance. I have seen this several times from the train.
    My theory is that Blackie Brook was the boundary between Gorton and Openshaw which puts Arrowsmiths shop in Openshaw. I have ... more >>

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 10-Dec-2014
    Very interesting Billy I visited my grandma in Openshaw regularly and found my own way from a very young age past the (stinking)Corn Brook and Arrowsmiths (home of the stuffed crocodile) Past Brown and Tawse on Clayton Lane and the new tech college(I seem to recollect that being a big building site Do you know when it was built?) crossing Ashton Old Road and then on to Amy Street where my mo... more >>

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 10-Dec-2014
    Guess what Jean. Corn Brook still stinks. I went to Openshaw Technical College on day release for five years but the Openshaw Technical High School I mentioned was on Pottery Lane where I sat my 11 plus. They must have got each others mail on a regular basis.

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Dec-2014
    I sat my 11-plus there as well Bill, 1959.
    I can clearly remember walking there, just me and Keith (Fudgie) Brookes, great memories of that area.

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 15-Dec-2014
    Well well Mr Holmes. We keep filling in the gaps in our childhoods in West Gorton. I sat my 11 plus in 1959 As did Bunny Clarke who was in your class at St Marks and then in my class at Nicholls. The fact that there is a year difference in our ages must mean that we both fell on the same side of the annual demarcation line between 58-59.
    That was the first time I saw teachers in mortar boards and... more >>

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 17-Dec-2014
    Now I find this little conversation fascinating because I knew both of you but did you not know each other then?

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 17-Dec-2014
    John used to put bets on for his dad at my dads bookies on Robert Street. We were in different gangs but with many mutual pals in and out of school. We must have met loads of times and probably fought each other.

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 17-Dec-2014
    We dont fight anymore Jean, we just have lots of hugs when we meet up :-)

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 20-Dec-2014
    Hi
    Does anyone know the name of the family who lived at 15 Mitchell Street, Beswick, from December 1933 to June 1934, Mitchell Street was just off Ashton Old Road near Pottery Lane, on the borders of Beswick, West Gorton & Openshawe,
    Hope someone can help me.
    Regards
    Malcolm B

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Dec-2014
    Jean,
    It's amazing that only through this site did I renew my aquaintance with Bill and Lynda Briggs.
    Like Bill says, we were in different gangs, but had mutual close friends who were with us at different schools, and despite the "territorial" state of West Gorton streets in the 1950's, we all got on reasonably well, and Bill and Lynda are firm friends, along with Tony McMunn now.
    I dare say we... more >>

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 24-Dec-2014
    Hello John On my many sojourns to M/c and Gorton over the years I have probably been passing people on the street that I knew as a kid (I was probably looking too hard) but you are right the common factor is we are all moulded the Gorton way.. and can be proud of that!
    Have a Happy time over the festive season with your loved ones and your many grandchildren John You are truly blessed

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Dec-2014
    Hi Jean,
    Many thanks, and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours - perhaps if we manage another meeting in 2015 you would be able to come and see us all.
    Take good care of yourself and have a good New Year.

  • Re: Origins of Gore Brook, Gorton and Corn Brook West Gorton by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 24-Dec-2014
    I would love that John Thank You

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Peacock st school 2014 by dave hodkinson (Member 10266434) on 30-Nov-2014
Hello one and all, those of you that might of attended this school infant and junior, I visited today 30/11/14 and saddened to say, ITS GONE   
  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    Hi Dave,
    I passed it a month ago and took one last photograph.
    Although I never went there, it was a nice building.
    I expect that it will be used for housing, but with all the brown-field sites in the Gorton area, you would think that the Council could have been a little more imaginative, and converted this building into something more community-based, wouldn't you?

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 6-Dec-2014
    Unfortuately councils don't show any imagination in these situations the fate of such buildings is down to cost. The cheapest option is
    the only option.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 12-Dec-2014
    Very sad that Peacock Street School has gone. I went there in the early 1950s and also used the school on some evening craft and fun classes.
    I took a few photos about 6 years ago on my visit from here in Canada. I also have a few class photos too.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by dave hodkinson (Member 10266434) on 15-Dec-2014
    Hi Dennis ,You say you attended Peacock st in the 50,S , which years were you there? remember any names? Would love to see your pictures
    cheers Dave .

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 4-Jan-2015
    Hi folks. I started my school many years ago at Peacock Street. Did the Primary bit and can remember being tucked up on camp beds for the afternoon nap along with the rest of the class, we lay there looking out across the playground and the 'rec' towards Taylor Street. Later moved up to the Juniors where old 'Oily Hoyle' was Headmaster, a Mr. Wiggins taught music and maths with the aid of the stra... more >>

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 5-Jan-2015
    Hi Jim, did you look on Facebook, the Gorton M18 page, Its full of articles and photos and lately lots of Peacock St school. Not sure if you can see then without joining but its worth a try, costs nothing. Happy New Year by the way :-)

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 7-Jan-2015
    Hi Dave,
    My photos of the Peacock Street classes are on Friends Reunited. I attended during the the the late 40s. Folks I remember are Bernard Smith, Peter Elcock, Raymond Hayes. Sheila Carslake, Vera Leach, Paul James, Other names from Darley St. were Leonard Molineaux, Beryl O'Neil, Brenda Schofield, Derek Bowers, Pat Cain, Irene Dunn, Jack and Cliff Sutton plus others.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 8-Jan-2015
    Hi Dennis, good to hear of someone from my era at Peacock Street. Peter Elcock I knew well,lived up Bryson Grove. Raymond Hayes,Cliff Sutton and Vera Leach are all famiar names. Sheila Carslake I knew as well, she was a cousin of my close friend Brian Collier who lived on Church Lane next to Harry Shepherd. Would love to hear more names. Cheers.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 13-Jan-2015
    Hi Jim, Only other names that spring to mind are Ronnie Rawlinson, Geoff Wilson, Angela Booth, Terence Conroy (is my cousin) and June Mitchell was in my class.
    I did hear that Jack Sutton passed away a few years back.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 13-Jan-2015
    Hello Dennis, just read that you knew IRENE DUNN. There is an Irene Dunn Truman, age around 77, who uses the Gorton M18 Facebook page, she lives in USA now and is married to an American guy I think. Could be the same lady, its worth you having a look at her page to see if its her. Good Luck.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 17-Jan-2015
    Hi Lynda, I do know Irene Dunn and I am in contact with her. You are correct that she married a US soldier after the war and they settled in the States. One name I forgot to mention was Joyce Windsor who I was in touch with. She moved to New Zealand.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 18-Feb-2015
    Hey Jim, I thought I was the only one who remembered Mr. Hoyle and Mr . Wiggins. I was amonst the first ones to go to Varna St. Mr Wiggins used his baton to keep us in line. When " you" we're in disgrace, you were made to get on your chair and be ridiculed....more so if your name was Dunn...or so it seemed to me.
    Cheers

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 18-Feb-2015
    I've known Dennis and his family for many many years. They lived on the next street to us. My mam always had nice things to say about Dennis' mam.
    Cheers

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 9-Mar-2015
    Nice of you to remember what your Mom said about mine. I think that you know that Dave Anderson and Sheila Carslake were good friends of mine. Dave and I were in a Skiffle Group called the Blackjacks.
    We used to play in the Monkey Pub near Peacock Street School and one time we played on the Apollo
    along with Freddie Garity's group.(Freddie and the Dreamers.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 9-Mar-2015
    Hi Irene, 'Hoyle and Wiggins', what a pair, once met - never forgotten!! Didn't realise that you had attended Varna Street, what year did you go?
    I started there in 1950 and left in '54'. My first teacher there was a 'Miss Reid', lovely lady! My last teacher at Peacock Street was Mr. Tonks, he was the 'good guy' of that school.
    Great to hear from you. Jim.

  • Re: Peacock st school 2014 by jim whittaker (Member 10298446) on 9-Mar-2015
    Hi Irene, 'Hoyle and Wiggins', what a pair, once met - never forgotten!! Didn't realise that you had attended Varna Street, what year did you go?
    I started there in 1950 and left in '54'. My first teacher there was a 'Miss Reid', lovely lady! My last teacher at Peacock Street was Mr. Tonks, he was the 'good guy' of that school.
    Great to hear from you. Jim.

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words by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 25-Nov-2014
The old words are disappearing fast aren't they?Do any of you still talk about(excuse my spelling) scriking your eyes out Being mard wearing keks carrying a gamp
There must be many others
  
  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Nov-2014
    Being "mythered" to death, always makes me smile.
    Someone being a "mard" arse is another.
    When did you last call someone a "cheeky sod"?

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    Glad you started this one Jean. Yesterday I heard someone say "Where's me Doobry".... haha we used to say that, now we both say 'Thingy' when we cant think of the right word - and that is so annoying.

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    And we were called "NESH" if we said we were cold.

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    And we wore a "Ganzy" instead of a cardi.

  • Re: words by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 26-Nov-2014
    I live near Southport and a suggested somebody was a "mard arse" only last week. Really wished i hadn't because the explanation to locals who didn't know the expression was difficult to say the least. The local equivalent is apparently " soft get" .

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    Well Dave, thats probably coz you're in Merseyside now. They'll call you 'Soft Lad' when you're mard there...

  • Re: words by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 27-Nov-2014
    what about "giveover" I expect that'd raise eyebrows where ever you live I wonder who first coined the phrase Or nowty come to that but then isn't nowty one of those strange words that needs no translation

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 29-Nov-2014
    And gone from the English Language is "I've just Brown-stoned the step".

  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    What about "blinding" - as in, "that was a blinding goal wasn't it?"

  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Dec-2014
    Another one is the word "bazzin(g)" as in phrases such as "that's a bazzin' bike you've got there", a word we used as kids to describe something really nice.

  • Re: words by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Dec-2014
    And the foul language of the day seems very tame by today's standard We knew that someone had reached the end of their tether and ran for cover when they said they were bleedin sick of something It sounded so threatening back then A far cry from the vulgar language of today

  • Re: words by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 21-Dec-2014
    Was anyone else told by their mother that they would get chin cough sitting on cold doorsteps or hot pipes at school.

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Dec-2014
    Yeah we often got Chin-Cough. And Corned Beef legs if we sat too close to the open fire.

  • Re: words by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 22-Dec-2014
    I think Chin Cough was a polite word for piles, does anyone else have any suggestions

  • Re: words by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 22-Dec-2014
    I thought " Chin Cough" was a alternative name for " Influenza " I may be wrong it's over 60 years since I heard the saying.
    Malcolm B

  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Dec-2014
    Helen, I think you're right.
    My mother used to say that if we sit on the cold stone walls (outside the houses on Cambert Lane)we would get piles.
    Definitely the oddest mis-diagnosis I have ever heard of!

  • Re: words by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 24-Dec-2014
    John,

    I thinks our parents referred to sitting on the cold steps as wrongly giving us piles, " Chin Cough" was something completely different , just looked it up on Google and it refers to Chin Cough as a alternative name for Influenza which I recalled from years ago.
    regards
    Malcolm B

  • Re: words by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    All these years I have worried about cold doorsteps and hot pipes giving me chin cough when all the while it was influenza I was in danger of catching, well at least now I can sit on them without worrying thank god for the flu injection

  • Re: words by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 6-Jan-2015
    Hi Helen,
    Happy New Year, I hope you and Alf are keeping in good health.

    Helen I didn't refer to catching flu by sitting on cold doorsteps or hot pipes, I said that the alternative name for flu (as stated in the dictionary ) is chin cough, I only replied because your original enquiry asked if anyone had any suggestions to the meaning of chin cough, as you thought chin cough was another name f... more >>

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Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Nov-2014
Hi everyone , not been on for sometime, hope all is well with you.
I am doing some research on the old Bellevue prison( not at all suggesting that any of you remember it ).
Can you tell me what side of Hyde road was it on , it says on various sites that the main entrance was on Hyde road but I dont know what side it was on .
Was it on the same side as Bellevue zoo etc and what stands there now.... more >>
  
  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 17-Nov-2014
    Hi Julie, yes the prison was on the same side of Hyde Rd as the zoo. I have some maps showing the area before, during and after the prison was built. If you think back to how the area was in the 60's it's easy to visualise where it covered. It began at the cobbled passage opposite Birch St that lead into Nut St and all the way along Hyde Rd to Ashmore St. The main entrance into the prison is shown... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Nov-2014
    Julie,

    Regarding the position of Belle Vue Prison:
    First of all, you may hear that it was part of the Belle Vue Zoological Gardens site - it never was.
    It was completely seperate from Belle Vue's site, and was known variously as Hyde Road Prison, Gorton Gaol, Hyde Road Gaol and Belle Vue Prison.
    It was located on the south side of Hyde Road on a large plot of land adjacent to Belle Vue Zoolo... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Nov-2014
    Hi Paul,

    I heard that the Main Entrance was in fact on where Stowell Street would eventually be built.
    I have not seen all the available maps, but bow to your knowledge if I am incorrect on that.
    I understand that the area known later of Nut Street was actually INSIDE the Prison Walls, and the wall ran along Hunter's Lane to Hyde Road.
    It's a really interest... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Nov-2014
    Thankyou so much for that valued info.
    Ive learnt more in your responses than off the web itself.
    It was a huge prison it seems.
    Both the prison and the Zoo was running about the same time I believe, and that the inmates could hear the noises from the zoo.
    The prison was demolished hence Strangeways, but the zoo continued for a good while after .
    It really is of... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Nov-2014
    Julie/Paul,

    My apologies, but Paul has this spot on.
    The actual Prison wall ran from:
    The junction of Hyde Road where Nut Street was eventually built, down Hyde Road towards Manchester until it reached a point on Hyde Road where Ashmore Street was eventually built - NOT Stowell Street as I had thought.
    It went along what was to become Ashmore Street, the main Prison Entrance being halfway al... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 17-Nov-2014
    No problem John, I was only able to work from a rough old map anyway and as you say the old streets were not in place then. It was the photo of the Prison entrance shown on the Manchester Libraries images, that really gave me the idea the photo taker must have been stood on the ground which would have later became the Slack & Cox bottle yard.
    It must have been 1972/73 I went across to the churne... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Nov-2014
    Gosh Paul, do you think those bones were perhaps bones from the inmates?
    Thanks john and Paul, its a great subject.
    Julie

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 17-Nov-2014
    No Julie .... the bones were coming out of the Zoo. Bones from big animals .... Hippo's and Elephant's etc.

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-Nov-2014
    Paul,
    You've really stirred my memories with this.
    I had an Aunt and Uncle lived at 60 Lynn Street on the Prison Ground and another who lived on Ashmore Street - I remember the circular concrete Emergency Water Supply tank located on a patch of land at the end of Lynn Street, where it met Redgate Lane.
    In the 1950's, my late Grandparents were living at 50 Kirkmanshulme Lane - the houses are sti... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 18-Nov-2014
    Thats a lovely story John

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 19-Nov-2014
    The houses I referred to yesterday, on Kirkmanshulme Lane - set high up on a bank just after the railway bridge at Longsight Station and before Stockport Road - are still standing as they are owned by the Church of England and were managed by St John's Church on St John's Road, Longsight, off Stockport Road.
    I understand that the remaining houses on Cambert Lane - St James' View, opposite St Jame... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    Julie,
    If you go onto the Manchester Local Images Collection and punch in Cambert Lane, you will find a photograph of Victoria Road where it meets Cambert Lane.
    The gable-end of the terraced houses on Cambert Lane in that photograph are built of large black stones that were bought from the demolition contractors who knocked down Belle Vue Gaol, and were used to construct several terraces of hou... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    Julie,
    I must be losing it, I mentioned this in a post (above) dated 17th November 2014 - sorry!

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 17-Jan-2015
    I have an 1895 map of Gorton which is most interesting as many of the streets we all know of are not on it. It shows the prison alongside the old Belle Vue speedway track. The area at the rear of Belle Vue was called Knutsford Vale.

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 17-Jan-2015
    Knutsford Vale is still there Dennis east of Kirkmanshulme Lane and north of Crowcroft Park. We called it Jacksons Claypit and rode our push bikes on the slag heaps.

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Message for Jim Whittaker by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 15-Nov-2014
Hello Jim I have sent you an e-mail
Best wishes Jean
  
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Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 7-Nov-2014
I'm sure that it wasn't only in Robert Street(but then that was the centre of my world) that great pride was taken by the women folk who down on their knees would fist scrub the front door step and then stone it to give a smart all over colour and woe betide the one who stepped on it! Then came the fashion of painting the bottom half of the front of the house with Red (help me out here someone) ?... more >>   
  • Re: Gorton talk by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 8-Nov-2014
    yes Jean we lived in Ashmore Street and we did the same, we called it red raddle. My job was to do the fire hob black every Wednesday when the fire was left to go out

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 9-Nov-2014
    What was red raddle then Ken and can YOU remember the smell and was it because of the cost do you think that it wasn't painted the whole way up? Do you remember when it all started I well remember neighbours up on their ladders and us kids watching in rapt attention... Happy days eh?
    I think your folk must have been very houseproud to blacken the back of the fire though!

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 10-Nov-2014
    Hello Jean & Ken, I believe Red Raddle was/is used on boats - so we may have used it for its waterproofing qualities. I'll have to ask Mum if we painted it on our bay.

  • Re: Gorton talk by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 11-Nov-2014
    Red raddle came in a tin and you put it on like a polish, we could not afford paint so we used that instead. We used a tin of black lead for our kitchen fire it had 2 ovens one on each side of the fire, the grate had 4 arms that you could put pans on to cook or boil water. The black lead once it dried was a dusty grey so we used a rag to polish it up and the fireplace gleamed. and no Jean we wer... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Nov-2014
    The "grate" in our back kitchen on Clowes Street had an oven on the right hand side of the main fire and a water tank (with a polished brass tap) on the left, and I can never really remember the main fire being allowed to go out, even in the summer.
    The "grate" had two "irons" for hanging pots on and a swing-out "trivet" usually for heating a "stew-pot" which was continually on the boil in the wi... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 12-Nov-2014
    Hello folks Yes the Kitchens were a hive of activity in our young days weren't they? Lots of elbow grease used and proper food cooked The clothes rack was a huge benefit for mam trying to dry washing in wet weather but I was/am blessed/afflicted with a powerful sense of smell and sometimes I thought washing dried in doors had a stale odour My elder sisters had the doubious "privilege" of goin... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 12-Nov-2014
    Hello folks Yes the Kitchens were a hive of activity in our young days weren't they? Lots of elbow grease used and proper food cooked The clothes rack was a huge benefit for mam trying to dry washing in wet weather but I was/am blessed/afflicted with a powerful sense of smell and sometimes I thought washing dried in doors had a stale odour My elder sisters had the doubious "privilege" of goin... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 13-Nov-2014
    Howdy Jean, I think the wash-house you mean was on Armitage Street, just behind Thomas St, I went with Mum a few times, pushing the washing in a trolley. Then they started opening Launderettes and it was blummin marvellous, we used one on Hyde Rd near Hornbys chippy - I think.

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 14-Nov-2014
    Ah yes, Armitage Street I had forgotten about it but that's the one Lynda Still I wasn't very far away was I?
    I suppose they had to take the prams because of the weight of the wet washing but a dead giveaway You could hardly say if asked where are you going?..Oh nowhere in particular! My eldest sister Nina(sadly no longer with us) was a bit of a snob It must have been agony for her to don a tu... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 14-Nov-2014
    just looking at what I had posted there and of course I meant Hyde Rd and the Apollo at Ardwick Green so..is that UP Hyde Rd or DOWN?

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 14-Nov-2014
    I dont remember Mum wearing a turban on a washing trip, she was always smart and nicely dressed. Gran on Clowes St had a mangle so she might have hand-washed all her stuff, she used to get me to put stuff thru that wringer, and catch the drips in a large basin underneath. I'll pass your kind message to Mum, its getting harder for her to recall things now, she'll be 92 in February. We also went t... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    I always seem to remember that when we lived on Clowes Street in the 1950's, my Mother and my Grandmother were always very particular about the cleanliness of their "net" curtains in the windows that faced onto the main street. They didn't seem to be too worried about curtains in windows that faced onto the back yard though.

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 5-Dec-2014
    They must have loved the view of the back-yard John..................

  • Re: Gorton talk by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Dec-2014
    I remember our back-yard and the tricks we used to get up to there Lynda.
    Me and our kid used to go up into the back bedroom, open the sliding window, sit on the ledge and then jump onto the sloping toilet roof below.
    Imagine seeing your kids do that nowadays?
    You'd have a fit.
    I remember the dividing brick wall between our gran's house next door, and we climbed over it that much that eventual... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    I remember going to the wash house on Hyde Road next to the swimming baths with my mum when I was a child and then going for myself when I got married. Oh the joys of the scrubs, the machines for the whites, the big drying racks that pulled out of the wall and the ironing machines, big rollers that took whole sheets folded in half and the presses for trousers etc, I think I would go now if there w... more >>

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Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 17-Oct-2014
Have gathered from remarks on here and from what little bit I have seen on FB that there are Gortonians living all around the world or are travelling around it fairly often. Now, lets be hearing from you about the most unusual/exciting/frightening/beautiful places you have experianced, its not exactly Gorton talk but its Gorton people getting about, so lets hear it, keep this site going, regardles... more >>   
  • Re: Travels! by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 18-Oct-2014
    Having served in the Army I was sent to Muscat and Oman in the 1970s, we acted as the training team for the Sultans Army. Attached to an RAF Camp we lived in the Desert, part of my role was to patrol along the Jebel a mountain range on the Yemen border. The base camp was um el Guaraf this was an oasis in the Salalah area I made lots of friend there some from a company laying tarmac roads through... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 19-Oct-2014
    Late 1960's we were living in northern Uganda and a short distance away was Chobi National Park which was part of the huge Murchison Falls Park. One Sunday we were all in the Chobi park chugging along the River Track alongside the Nile. On the lookout for wildlife we came across a lone buffalo which was not happy at us being there! Following the rules we just drove slowly past this beast and conti... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Oct-2014
    Jim, you sure like living on the edge, and youve got some great tales to tell. I cant possibly contribute to this thread, the scariest thing I did was last week trying to climb those spiral stone steps to the top of Conwy Castle despite my dodgy hips and shoulder...

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Oct-2014
    Oh and the other scary thing I did was to let my big bro Billy fly me over Swansea in a 4-seater plane - now that was SCARY...

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 21-Oct-2014
    Travelling back from M/c to Moray after attending the funeral of my favourite uncle in the 1970's I decided to follow the route over the Dava Moor just north of Aviemore instead of sticking to the main roads To my horror I got caught out in a sudden snowstorm The windscreen wipers could barely cope but because I could just make out a set of tyre tracks in front decided to continue I soon found my... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 21-Oct-2014
    Brilliant true scary story Jean, clever you getting out of it alive, it could have been so much worse.

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 21-Oct-2014
    Aye well Lynda I have climbed the Conway Castle spiral steps...but you wouldn't get me in a four seater plane! Very brave

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Oct-2014
    1966, spent the whole year living in Israel.
    I travelled from Haifa, south and east through the desert (as it was then, not so now) by Army Truck overnight, without any sleep at all.
    About 4:00am we saw our first glimpse of Jerusalem from about three miles away, just as the sun came up.
    The city, surrounded as it is by limestone walls, turned pink in the morning sun, and was a sight I shall nev... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Oct-2014
    In 1966 I had a weekend in New Brighton. It rained.

  • Re: Travels! by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 23-Oct-2014
    I was first married in 1965. I wish it had rained, i would not have turned up.

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 24-Oct-2014
    John, your 1966, thats the stuff memories are made of, a fantastic sunrise, one to treasure.
    We have one as well for 1966, we flew out of Gatwick on 1-1-1966 bound for Uganda and experianced our first African sunrise as we flew over Lake Victoria on our approach to Entebbe airport. Have seen many beautiful sunrises and sunsets ( a lot of them here in Scotland!) but there is always one that sticks... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 25-Oct-2014
    Holidaying in the far east in my fiftieth year Having checked into the hotel I returned to reception across the vast foyer standing as tall as I could I gave an Oscar winning performance gliding across to a fortyish female...
    Giving me no chance to say anything she said "Ah Madam I bet you beautiful when young"..and whist I was still spluttering and adding insult to the back handed compli... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 25-Oct-2014
    Great stuff Jean, lovely story, where were you??
    A couple more from me tomorrow, keep them coming folks, you have all got a book in you somewhere!
    Regards. Jim.

  • Re: Travels! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 25-Oct-2014
    Fort Lauderdale Fla about ten years ago. We got lost and pulled over into a boozer for refreshments and directions but the barman was no help. A customer asked me which part of Manchester I was from so I told him Gorton. He said he was from Denton and after comparing notes it turned out he went to Ryder Brow school with my little sister.

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 25-Oct-2014
    Who was that then Billy????

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 26-Oct-2014
    Good morning Jim We were in Singapore and Thailand My little story took place in Bangkok Did you all remember to put back the clocks?

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 26-Oct-2014
    Forgot to say I loved your story about Jerusalem John..H (just in case John..C is watching)It would be one of those moments to really cherish Lucky you

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 26-Oct-2014
    Morning to you Jean, yes, the clocks went back albeit this morning!
    Re:Travels, the 'unusual'!
    About 15 miles north of where we lived in Uganda was a leprosarium where the people inflicted with the illness were treated. A young German guy worked there as a 'dresser'. He was invited to all the parties etc and so decided that he would have a party and a whole crowd of us were invited to the event.... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 26-Oct-2014
    Pat has just reminded me, 1985 and we were both stood in the middle of the living room in our Lae, Papua New Guinea house. Louvre windows closed and ceiling fan going full blast as we gasped for breath and the tears rolled down our cheeks! In the street outside, 10 yards away, the police were battling a gang of rioters with lots of tear gas and big sticks! Happy Days!

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 28-Oct-2014
    hello again Jim So the Gorton kid has travelled far eh? Interesting stories though.. maybe you should write them down
    Our Daughter Elise (47) made a gift to me of a beautifully bound writing book to record my life story which I think is a good idea I wish I had asked my Grandma to do the same. Its living history isn't it? Our children have never seen an outside toilet for instance and the ide... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Oct-2014
    Regarding my year living in Israel (1966) I had quite a few of those "where were you when" moments.
    On 6th May 1966 I was working at Kibbutz Kfar Hanassi under the Golan Heights in Northern Israel when I heard that Myra Hindley and Ian Brady had been convicted of the Moors Murders at Chester Assizes.
    Coming from West Gorton, that really hit home, as it did for many Gorton folk.
    On 12th August t... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 30-Oct-2014
    Fascinating posting John What were you doing there

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 31-Oct-2014
    Jean,
    I was on an exchange visit with Israeli Police Officers who came to the UK to learn training methods and vice versa.
    After three months at Tel Aviv Barracks, during which I visited all the places I had ever heard of, I opted to stay on and do voluntary work for VSO (Voluntary Service Overseas) as part of my Duke of Edinburgh's Gold Award.
    I had to forfeit my salary, but earned money driv... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 1-Nov-2014
    That would have been a priceless experience John I am impressed In December of 1966 I had my first baby then another 18 months later so my focus was nappy centred!!!

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Nov-2014
    Hi Jean, children are the be-all and end-all for me.
    I have thirteen grandchildren at the moment.
    It's hard getting to see them all enough (two are in the USA), but they are all that matters.

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 5-Nov-2014
    Then we sing from the same hymn sheet John We have six grandchildren and one great grandchild! They are all my treasure Fortunately we see quite a lot of them still You know what they are like as they get older MY CUP OVERFLOWS

  • Re: Travels! by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    I have visited some lovely places over the past 50 years, Spain, Greece, Malta, North Africa and also lived in Australia for 3 years, but I still remember my first holiday in the sun in Spain on the Costa de Almeria in a little village next to the sea called Aqua Amarga, sunshine everyday, blue sky, warm nights, cheap wine, fantastic food and lovely people although they didn't speak English we got... more >>

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The 'Wall of Death' !! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 11-Oct-2014
Saw a bit somewhere on the TV last week about the motor bike 'Wall of Death' show and I think that it was done at Belle Vue many years ago ? I was a very young kid at the time and was amazed at how those guys stayed on the wall. Anybody out there know any of the guys who rode that 'wall'?. Do you remember the lion act that always came on last during the Circus shows at Belle Vue, we kids sat spell... more >>   
  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 12-Oct-2014
    I well remember seeing the big colourful billboards advertising their death defying stunts In a giant wooden bowl Jim and I would have paid more attention if I thought someone in the future would ask me to name them Ha Ha!!

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 12-Oct-2014
    Sorry Jim but this is about teenage sexual awakening. I worked on the Hoop La stall just opposite the wall of death and a large, scantily clad lady called Vicky Sherry would tempt the punters in and she rode as a passenger on the wall.
    Unrequited love but it got me into motorbikes.

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 15-Oct-2014
    Whilst we are 'in' Belle Vue can anybody out there remember the huge skull that use to be on show in the elephant house ? I heard a story in those days that there had been a fight between a couple of the elephants and a young one had been killed or put down as a result of its injuries ?
    Plus, does anybody know when the last fireworks display was held in Belle Vue ?
    Lovely autumn weather here fol... more >>

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by stuart mcintyre (Member 10296593) on 15-Oct-2014
    the scull in the elephant house was that of a mother rhino kill by her son

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by Robert (Bob) Moore (Member 10099906) on 17-Dec-2014
    You are right Stewart, I remember that skull, with a big hole in once side where the horn had gone in

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by Robert (Bob) Moore (Member 10099906) on 17-Dec-2014
    Sorry, that should be Stuart

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Spurgeon Street off William Street, West Gorton, M/cr 12. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
I am trying to locate a couple of families who lived in Spurgeon Street - which was a Play Street running directly off William (Hoyland) Street - as their children went to St Marks'School between 1952 and 1959:
The families were the BURKES and the MOTTERSHEADS.
Bernard Burke and Sally Mottershead were in my class between those years.
I heard Bernard may well be a taxi-driver in Manchester, but ... more >>
  
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John CARLTON by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
I personally miss the banter with, and the humour of, John Carlton on this site.
We can ill-afford to lose from Knowhere Gorton people with the host of memories John possesses.
Come back Big Fella.
  
  • Re: John CARLTON by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    Waste of time John. JC has spat his dummy out.

  • Re: John CARLTON by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    Teddy is out of the pram.

  • Re: John CARLTON by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    I hope he does a Terminator - "I'll be back".

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Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Sep-2014
I was in Gorton and found near enough where I was born (80 Robert Street) and was lucky enough to find a local lady who had been living at her "abbotsbury walk" address for 40 years she had been born in ardwick so knew the area even before she moved there She said her house was on what used to be Margaret street There was building going on and she told me it was the site of St marks school (This w... more >>   
  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 29-Sep-2014
    Fantastic Jean. I have a photo I took earlier this year of Tony McMunn standing outside where his corner shop once stood right opposite your old house. I can't remember if you are on facebook but if you are I will send you the pickie.

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Sep-2014
    That would be fine Billy Thank you I do remember seeing it somewhere it would be good to compare features Particularly there is a building still standing on what was old Clowes St
    and it looks as if it was facing Margaret St or maybe one street further away
    I was told that it was a works depot Maybe you remember?

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
    Hi Jean,
    I was looking at that building-site three weeks ago, and they are correct, in that it was previously occupied by St Marks' Infants and Primary School.
    However, this is NOT the site of the original St Marks' Infants and Primary Schools which formerly stood between Robert Street and William Street, West Gorton, and which were demolished in the late 1960's.
    The actual location of the firs... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 30-Sep-2014
    Hi John I did not know about the 2nd St marks But curiously enough I felt "instinctively" that it was just a little too far over and that Hoyland Close was about right but not quite close enough to old Clowes St But all in all I must have wandered over the spot... I got Vibes this time!!! What a pity we were there at different times It would have been so lovely to have exchanged memories Thanks ... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    I have visited that area many times in the last couple of years Jean with JH and Tony McMunn and others. Sure you have seen some of the pickies. I wish our Lynda would get her arse in gear and meet me there in the tank back one day. We could stand there holding hands and I know she would be reduced to tears and probably me too.
    I can feel the memories and see them too. Like an electromagnetic fie... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 30-Sep-2014
    No Billy Not to me I can't tell you how much It meant to me to go "Home"

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Oct-2014
    Jean,
    Bill and Lynda have a real feel for the "old ground" in West Gorton, and can pin-point any former West Gorton sites - worth a meeting I can assure you.
    John.

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Oct-2014
    thanks again John hello all
    I am keen to know what the building(visible on the photo of tony McMunn's visit) still standing on what would have been old clowes street was/is

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 2-Oct-2014
    Hi there Jean, lovely story that, especially your treasure trove from Robert Street. Ive often wondered what might have been left under our house when they demolished it. Glad you found your roots Jean :-)

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Oct-2014
    Good morning Lynda Greetings from a sunny Scotland( well at the moment) My husband spends most of his time on the golf course Tues and Thurs we spend together and are about to go out so here's a quick response..
    I always envy people who have strong ties to each other Like tribal communities with their strange cultures
    What they have is ROOTS anchoring them to one place, one people That might... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Oct-2014
    Good morning Lynda Greetings from a sunny Scotland( well at the moment) My husband spends most of his time on the golf course Tues and Thurs we spend together and are about to go out so here's a quick response..
    I always envy people who have strong ties to each other Like tribal communities with their strange cultures
    What they have is ROOTS anchoring them to one place, one people That might... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    @ Jean and Lynda,
    Wouldn't it be great to see Time Team excavate the old West Gorton area and discovering the cellars with the wash-house boiler and copper and the old coal-holes?
    I remember when Clowes Street was demolished, they just pulled the walls and roofs down and bulldozed the lot into the cellars.
    John H.

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 7-Oct-2014
    hi John
    I was intrigued to hear how the demolition was carried out on the old Clowes Street houses I would love to be in on a Time Team excavation but better still.. I would love a time machine!

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 7-Oct-2014
    Hello Jean, pleased that your Gorton safari was more productive than my rather short wander around.
    I couldn't agree more with your comments about tribes and their cultures. Pat and I had the wonderful experiance of working/living/mixing with the wonderful peoples of Papua New Guinea for 12 years! We met some amazing characters as we were moved around the country and islands to work in Technical ... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 8-Oct-2014
    Greetings from Moray Jim
    It sounds as if you have had an interesting life
    I am glad you understood my sentiment about roots
    when left Gorton all those years ago part of me stayed behind!!
    Yes we too got hammered again What a deluge
    Hope to get through to Inverness befor... more >>

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Imbecile by S. Tringer (Member 10296075) on 26-Sep-2014
That's right John   
  • Re: Imbecile by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 26-Sep-2014
    ?????

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Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Sep-2014
What a fantastic day we had yesterday with little Johnnie Finn and our beloved teacher Mr Parry at Edale. He is still the same charming person he was at Nicholls in the 60s. Kept referring to us as his boys. Next time we won't let him buy lunch for us. I have tried to find you on facebook but drawn a blank so if you can find me please send a friends request.
Your old pal Billy.
  
  • Re: Phil Orme by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    Sounds like a nice day Bill.
    I have been totally unlucky tracing any of the teachers from my senior school days, but it would be nice to speak with them about the "old days".

  • Re: Phil Orme by philip orme (Member 10262543) on 22-Sep-2014
    hi billy will try and find you on facebook/

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    John
    Our wonderful Mr Parry was was our form master for four years at Nicholls and guided us from being snot nosed kids to a smart group of young men. We became a family in that period thanks to our Welsh Wizard.
    He is the same age as my mam ( 91 ) and as sharp as a razor though unsteady on his pins. He told us hilarious stories of the infighting amongst members of staff and the schoolboy pranks... more >>

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    PS Phil Orme and I are now facebook friends. Us Gortonians really are a special breed.

  • Re: Phil Orme by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Sep-2014
    Hi Bill, lovely to hear you had a successful weekend with your old teacher Mr Parry. Not many of us could do that.

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    I am truly honored and a fortunate Gorton skally.

  • Re: Phil Orme by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
    Yes you are, and what a sharpshooter - St Marks' bell never recovered Bill.

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    I could have been one of the last people to ring St Marks Church bell. With my dads 177 Webley Junior slug gun. I never missed.

  • Re: Phil Orme by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    I'm sure you must have been Bill.
    It was sad to see the old church where my late Mum and Dad were married demolished, criminal.

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Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-Sep-2014
Just seen on the news that today is the 70th. Anniversary of the parachute drop at Arnham in the second world war. I was obviously only a child when this happened but in later years I learned that I had actually worked with one of those guys when serving my 'time' as a painter. He was a quiet, tall bloke who only spoke when it was needed, he always had a 'drop' on his nose and we young apprentices... more >>   
  • Re: Anniversaries. by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Sep-2014
    They didnt talk about these things did they, our Dad only talked with me about war stuff in his last weeks. They were heroes. By the way Jim, have you posted anything on GortonM18 yet?

  • Re: Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-Sep-2014
    Hello Lynda, had a look on FB but not done anything as yet, wouldn't know where to start to put photos on, will need some help eventually.
    Have so many things on the go, FB is just an extra one to do! As it gets later in the year and theres less to do outside I shall have more time to concentrate on this new project. The nights are darker by 8pm. now and dawn is later,no more sunlight at 3-30am (... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    What about those fresh winter winds Jim?
    I seem to recall that one of the priorities for a friend of mine on Stornaway was keeping the roof on during the winter.
    I remember him telling me about using ropes and heavy stones as weights stretched over the roof to hold it down.
    Now THAT sounds like a priority to me mate.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 23-Sep-2014
    Morning John, as it turns out we have had a local weather warning for the coming winter---- snow and 'boistrous' winds! Roof contruction in Scotland is very strong and we have never had to resort to tying the roof down--as yet!. A few stones put in the plastic gutters to keep them in place during the winds and the older 'out-buildings' which have asbestos sheets on top can be seen with heavy stone... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 23-Sep-2014
    Jim, John....my great grandfather lived on Achill Island off the coast of Mayo, Eire. he was a fisher man, well to be more correct he used to go out into the Atlantic in rowing boat maybe a Coricle ) to spear basking sharks, bring them back to land for the oil, etc, etc.
    They had old discarded fishing nets thrown over their roofs ( thatched or turf ) with rocks tied to the ends to weigh the nets... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Sep-2014
    Hi John C, your mention of Achill Island reminds me that my old friend lives at Newport, Co Mayo, at the end of a lovely track and facing the bay with it's islands.
    Last saw him ten years ago, and I need to go there again.
    One of the most beautiful parts of the country.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Sep-2014
    Hi Jim, my old friend was from Carloway in the Outer Hebrides, Isle of Lewis, and although we worked together in Manchester for years, I never got there.
    I remember the day his mother got a phone fitted at their cottage, in the early 1970's, and he rang her from the office.
    She was a pure Gaelic speaker, as was he, and it was fascinating to hear the conversation.
    It was he that used to tell me ... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 26-Sep-2014
    I have visited the lovely village of Clifden in County Galway on my motorbike many times or it could be in Connemara. Wonderful friendly people and great food and Guinness. Alcock and Brown crash landed there in the first transatlantic flight.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Sep-2014
    Bill,
    I visited there five years ago, after a huge storm in Connemara National Park, I arrived and found the little museum with the old photographs of Alcock and Brown's airplane crashed into the bog just outside the village.
    Lovely memories for me because Brown was an old boy of my school, Central Grammar, and he was mentioned to all new kids like me in 1959.
    Beautiful part of Ireland.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Sep-2014
    Thought it was Sammy Davies Jnr, that landed there first..........wait for it....he's Alcock & Brown....haha

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    Not very funny!

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Sep-2014
    Lighten up Kate....it was said in jest.....you will not tell me what to put on here....that I mean.!!!

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    I wouldn't dream of it but presumably you are a grown up man and not some stupid kid?

  • Re: Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 28-Sep-2014
    SLOW DOWN GUYS ! We do not need this agro on this message board. There are plenty of 'rants' on other sites and on FB., lets keep it off the Gorton site , its too good for that sort of rubbish!... Jim.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Sep-2014
    Thanks Jim, but "Kate Knowitall" has had another bitch at me, think she has had a sense of humour failure Again...must be an age thing, silly bitch.
    No wonder this board is getting stuffy with people like her watching every thing people say. Gorton Message Board you have just lost another reader.... heads up people the sense of humour police are watching you. bye its been a blast. I know for cer... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 28-Sep-2014
    Lets keep our eye on the ball brothers and sisters. We all know who the real enemies are. Please don't abandon this great site John. Billy Whizz will miss you.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Sep-2014
    Me too Big John.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Sep-2014
    And though I've only read your postings John I will too

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 2-Oct-2014
    Me too JC, met you twice now and you're a smashing fella, and so is the boss (Angie) haha.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    It's not the same without 'The Big Fella' is it?
    Hope he makes a triumphant return soon, I miss him.

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Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 19-Sep-2014
Well, what can I say?
This site has stagnated and it is not because of people defecting. Most of the names on this page are also on FB. I have had years of pleasure and found friends old and new thanks to "Gorton Message Board." So many memories relived. The silent majority ( if there is one ) need to start contributing or the spammers and trolls will take it over. Don't believe me? Check out any... more >>
  
  • Re: Facebook by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 19-Sep-2014
    ellway aidsay illybay, well said.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 19-Sep-2014
    Allohay arymay ymay arlingday. Did I get it ightray.

  • Re: Facebook by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 20-Sep-2014
    Yes you are right Billy as you always are....Did any body manage to get Mr. Goldthorpe AKA the Memory man on board ??? he could be a great benefit to this site......answering and asking questions about OUR beloved Gorton, come on guys this could be our hour of need.....get canvassing for new blood. Thank you.

  • Re: Facebook by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 20-Sep-2014
    I must apologise as I log on to this site most days just to see if anyone I know has been on I know Mr Holmes through his cousin but cannot remember any of the others. I think Mr Whittaker may have known my sister Elsie and I remember a Nobby Clarke. He was at school with my brother Eric and went into the Harrington and Palm Court pubs. I know Johnie King from the Monastry as we played football... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 20-Sep-2014
    Well said Bill. It would be a shame if this site went down. I have really enjoyed the comments on here, also your brilliant poems. I think some people are on several sites, and sometimes its hard to keep up with them all.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 20-Sep-2014
    I only met the memory man once John in the Waggon last year. I don't think he has a PC.

  • Re: Facebook by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-Sep-2014
    Hi Ken ,I agree with you entirely, it can be difficult to introduce new'topics' of general interest to the Gorton Mesage Board, like you, I have a look most days. There are very few people from my part of Gorton on here, John Holmes is one but we never 'clicked' during that time but, as Billy says, we must keep the site busy and not become a target!Ken, I did know an Elsie but she was Elsie Partri... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Sep-2014
    Hi everyone, glad we're all looking in here now and again. Unfortunately now most of us are on Facebook, the old photos draw you in and you get sidetracked easily - which is a shame for those who are NOT on F/B. Our old brains only store so much information and sometimes you feel like you've mentioned everything, then someone comes up with a snippet that you can answer or join in with. Those are... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 21-Sep-2014
    Hi Jim
    My mother was a whittaker her father was from Middleton/Hadfield we have don the family tree so email me on Norkenf@aol.com and I will send you a copy of our family tree it goes back to 1660
    Ken

  • Re: Facebook by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-Sep-2014
    Ken, many thanks, email on the way, looking forward to this as it sounds like the right area for my G/father !! Jim.

  • Re: Facebook by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    Hello everyone, I agree with the comments here, especially where Lynda says that the attraction of being able to post photographs on other sites is a great attraction, and it's sometimes a bit disheartening on this site when you post a message or make a comment which remains unanswered for weeks and sometimes months.
    However, I can understand that, as we all lead busy lives, though we like to thi... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Sep-2014
    Geoff Goldthorpe was in the Waggon & Horses the day we first met up in April 2013. Its his local pub, so anyone going in, just ask the landlord if he's there - he's a mine of information, but he wasnt on the internet at that time. He's about 64 and went to Ryder Brow School, seems to know everyone.

  • Re: Facebook by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 22-Sep-2014
    I was his brothers mate ( Steve ) for a while, we lived on Whittaker St. Last time I saw Steve was in The Clock Face , was telling Billy Briggs about the last meeting in there it was like a seen from a cowboy movie, haha chairs flying through the air, bodies every where.. women, men and bouncers all fighting........haha

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    I think I was there that night John. There again it could have been any Saturday night.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    Any pub in Gorton.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    Just realised that the Clock Face was in Beswick but the same rules apply.

  • Re: Facebook by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Sep-2014
    Hi Bill, I have a feeling it was near where the Etihad Stadium is now, but it has been demolished for years now.
    Beswick was literally awash with pubs in the 1970's.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 26-Sep-2014
    The clock face was on Ashton Old Road opposite Gorton Road John. It was one of my regular watering holes. Chesters House.

  • Re: Facebook by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
    Hi Bill, yes I remember it now you have pinpointed it, I remember it as being a big handsome building.
    Another lovely building consigned to the skip!

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