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a little input by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 4-Aug-2014
Hello Dave our house was diagonally opposite the school gate on Robert St the dog leg bit Jeffrey Beard and his wee brother Paul were our next door neighbours (the Warburtons were on the other side) Edna their mother was a great friend of my eldest sister Nina(sadly now deceased)I did keep in touch with her up until about 5 or 6 years ago and visited her at 37 Covert Rd Holts Village Oldham OL45 P... more >>   
  • Re: a little input by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 4-Aug-2014
    Hello Jean, we've replied to your original post below this one - thanks for the info on the Beards, we have some photos of them and some of the Whit Walks.

  • Re: a little input by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Aug-2014
    Hiya Jean, it's nice to hear someone use the expression "midden", I thought it was dying out, and when I moved to Lincolnshire and used that word, you would have thought I was off a different planet.
    I remember Stanley and Sheila Gaunt very well, Billy told me that they moved from William Street to Robert Street later, and I heard that Stanley joined the Navy, but although he is on FB, I have nev... more >>

  • Re: a little input by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 4-Aug-2014
    Jean. Do you remember the Barnes family who lived Two doors from us on Robert Street other side from you? Mum was Laura and the kids were Ken, Norma and Barbara. I have a photo of Norma and Barbara, Norma would be the same age as you. Did you go to St Marks School?

  • Re: a little input by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Aug-2014
    Jean, for years I have been trying to trace two sisters, both of whom went to St Marks' (1953-1959).
    There were Jean and Joan DAVIS and they lived for years on Henry (Beaumaris) Street off Clowes Street.
    Does that surname mean anything to you at all?

  • Re: a little input by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 12-Aug-2014
    Hi Billy, you mention a Ken Barnes. I think he was in my class at Thomas St. Do you ever see him or know what happened to him? Thanks

  • Re: a little input by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 23-Sep-2014
    Hi KATE NOWELL, we dont know where the Barnes family moved to, sorry. Bill must have missed this last post of yours regarding KEN. Hope ur OK Kate, wonder if we'll meet again in Gorton sometime. Is anyone having a reunion in the spring???

  • Re: a little input by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Sep-2014
    Ken Barnes spent his honeymoon at Tony McMunns mams boarding house in Blackpool. Last I heard of him.

  • Re: a little input by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    Thanks for that info Lynda and Billy. Nice to know what happened to our former school friends.
    Any news of a future reunion Lynda, please let me know.
    Just got back from a wonderful trip to Portsmouth/Isle of Wight, first visit to those parts. Very interesting trip round Portsmouth dockyards, HMS Victory, warships no longerin use, boat museums etc. Also visited Osbourne House on Isle of Wight wh... more >>

  • Re: a little input by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    Thanks for that info Lynda and Billy. Nice to know what happened to our former school friends.
    Any news of a future reunion Lynda, please let me know.
    Just got back from a wonderful trip to Portsmouth/Isle of Wight, first visit to those parts. Very interesting trip round Portsmouth dockyards, HMS Victory, warships no longerin use, boat museums etc. Also visited Osbourne House on Isle of Wight wh... more >>

  • Re: a little input by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    Oops, what went wrong?

  • Re: a little input by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 28-Sep-2014
    Finger trouble Kate?

  • Re: a little input by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    Think so!

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Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 3-Aug-2014
I was born 8 Jan 1947 Fourth of six daughters The oldest three Nina Renee and Ann were to my mothers first husband(Merton)
Our neighbours were the Baguleys Reads Beards Warburtons Taylors Burdicans Smiths Appletons Gaunts McMunns(shop)to name but a few
I well remember sitting on the floor in the Brigg'shome watching television with countless other kids because we did not have one
I remember Joh... more >>
  
  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 3-Aug-2014
    It was Harry Worth Jean and I am Billy Briggs. I remember just about all those names and we must have sat on the same floor of our house watching the telly. If you are not on facebook then you are missing out on pictures of The McMunns, Me and our Lynda. Les Birdican, Jimmy Frost, Ray Hatton, Geoff and Paul Beard. The list is endless and John Holmes and Tony McMunn and me In Gorton this year on sa... more >>

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Aug-2014
    Hi Jean
    The comedian was 'Harry Worth' I remember him well 'I don't know why but there it is'.(sorry)
    Do you know where the Beards went to? Some of the Taylors went to Hattersley when we did as did some of the Birdicans.
    Dave

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 3-Aug-2014
    Nice to hear from you Dave. Jean might remember you as David Ford. My love to Linda.

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Aug-2014
    Cheers Bill
    Just came back from the Isle of Man last night and took Linda of to Scarborough late last night.
    Can't remember which end 80 Robert street was Jean.
    LDW

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Aug-2014
    Cheers Bill
    Just came back from the Isle of Man last night and took Linda of to Scarborough late last night.
    Can't remember which end 80 Robert street was Jean.
    LDW

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Aug-2014
    Hello Jean, welcome to the site, you have lots of friends here.
    I am the John Holmes who lived with our kid Chris at 126 Clowes Street, next door to the Beswick Coop Butchers and next door but one to the Beswick Coop Grocers that stood on the corner of Clowes a Street and William Street.
    The house was actually a former Tripe Shop, and like you quite rightly say, it had the bottom half of the win... more >>

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Aug-2014
    Hi Dave, nice to hear from you.
    Hope you and Linda are ok mate, take care.
    Sounds like the Isle of Man was good break, cheers Dave

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 4-Aug-2014
    Hello Jean, welcome to the site, come and join the gang. I'm Billy's younger sister so it must have been our carpet you sat on to watch the telly. Your house must have been close to the Beards somewhere opposite McMunns corner shop. Was McLaren your name at that time? What school did you go to Jean, you must have lived opposite St Marks School. Do you recall Tony & Sheila McMunn from the shop... more >>

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 4-Aug-2014
    Oh, I forgot to say Hi to David Wright and his missus Linda - hope you 2 are OK, Jean, me & Bill met up with Dave Wright, his wife and his cousin Marguerite last year in Gorton, John Holmes was there too. And this year we met Tony McMunn & his wife and it was just like yesterday. Because of sites like these and Facebook, old friends are becoming new friends now, I'm even meeting Tony & his wife a... more >>

  • Re: Jean McLaren 80 Robert Street by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 4-Aug-2014
    Hi Jean, Lynda and John
    We are both well thank you hope all is well with you too.
    Jean can you remember when Paul Beard had that awful accident when he came through the backyard door and his mum was turning round with the chip pan in her hand and accidently spilt the boiling fat over his shoulder and arm, he was in hospital for weeks. I remember his mum and dad very well.
    Joyce Birdican went on... more >>

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Film favourites! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 27-Jul-2014
Going back to our youth in Gorton and all the picture houses we spent our time in, who were our heroes of the silver screen ? What about Roy Rogers, Johnny Mack Brown, Superman, Supermouse,
The Three Stooges, Donald Duck, Road Runner, come on folks, jog your memories there must be hundreds more! I remember 'Gullivers Travels' showing at the Plaza on Gorton Lane, I went every night to see it ! Let... more >>
  
  • Re: Film favourites! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 27-Jul-2014
    The Bowery Boys and Flash Gordon.

  • Re: Film favourites! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Jul-2014
    It has to be Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier (1955) starring Fess Parker and Buddy Ebsen, first seen at the Essoldo Cinema on Mount Road.
    I can remember being fascinated by his Kentucky flintlock rifle (Betsy), and going home from the cinema, taking the brush head off my Mam's stale, and using the handle as a pretend flintlock.
    As soon as the Davy Crockett hat came out, I was given one ... more >>

  • Re: Film favourites! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 28-Jul-2014
    I loved anything with robots in them. One was called Tobor who said "Tobor is robot backwards". The best robot was in the film forbidden planet but I can't remember his name.

  • Re: Film favourites! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 28-Jul-2014
    Just googled it and it was Robby the robot.

  • Re: Film favourites! by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 2-Aug-2014
    Well, I have at long last joined Facebook, and now I know where everyone is thanks to BODZY I have managed the various stages of entry, really don't know how I would have managed it without his help, thanks Alan.

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Ice Cream by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
Heard recently that Lou Sivouri has died, he was one of our childhood playmates and lived at the shop on Hyde Road, how well I remember that shop, when we couldn't get the wafers during the war and they'de put the ice cream on one of these paper cake holders, and mum would sit every day in there with a penny she'de scraped together to buy my little sister a hot Blaccurrant drink, as she swore it w... more >>   
  • Re: Ice Cream by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 25-Jul-2014
    Hello Mary, how nice to see your name again, I think all the sivori ice cream parlours in gorton were a place everybody went, from being toddlers with your parents, to being teenagers, meeting friends and boyfriends.do you remember pembertons toy shop in cross street next door to phil greens hardware shop which was on the corner of whalley street? I used to spend most if my Saturday mornings ther... more >>

  • Re: Ice Cream by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
    nice to read you Sylvia, hope life is treating you well, yes those milk bars gave us our social life, especially when we had just left school and had a bit of money in our pockets, at school we only got a threepenny joey every Friday off my dad, you must have been a bit richer than us

  • Re: Ice Cream by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 25-Jul-2014
    I don't know about richer, but at this time I was the only grandchild and my grandad adored me, and spoiled me rotten, it made up for the fact my parents could not afford pocket money,it was just after the war and money was tight, and so was my dad. Hope your husband is more settled, but it must be hard work for you, as well as breaking your heart to see him like that, hope things improve a little... more >>

  • Re: Ice Cream by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
    Things can not get worse here, but keep telling myself everybody has their problems at our age, perhaps they can only get better now

  • Re: Ice Cream by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 26-Jul-2014
    Memories! As I recall, my Mother would take me to the Essoldo on Mount Road almost every Saturday night and when the film was over a trip to Sivouri's for a milkshake finished a great night off in style! As far as I was concerned in those days the Essoldo was the top end of picture houses! Mostly we visited the Olympia on Hyde Road or the Plaza on Gorton Lane, going to the Plaza for the Saturday a... more >>

  • Re: Ice Cream by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 26-Jul-2014
    You are so right Jim about the. Essoldo being the posh cinema, the cosmo , olympia and the plaza, not forgetting the Conway and the corona, they were lower end compared to the Essoldo, and if we were really flush we would venture as far as the Rota in reddish. When we had little money one drink in sivoris lasted all night and nobody asked you to buy more or move on. The ice cream was to die fo... more >>

  • Re: Ice Cream by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Jul-2014
    I grew up with Johnny and Mary Sivori, and was saddened by Johnny's death a couple of years ago, but thankfully Mary is still with us, and living in Macclesfield.
    They are a lovely family, much respected in West Gorton and Gorton, and their cafe in Gorton's Market is as busy as any of the old Milk Bars used to be.

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Right Or Wrong by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Jul-2014
Circa 1960 There was a bicycle dealership on Hyde road 100 yds from Belle Vue speedway entrance and I used to take my bike there to get kicked straight when I bent it. It was owned by a well known cycle racer and the best name I can come up with is Reg Harris. Can anyone confirm?   
  • Re: Right Or Wrong by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 23-Jul-2014
    Think Billy it was Alan Bardsley, my cousin used to go there for his bike repairs, and Alan Bardsley father Cyril also had a shop somewhere , can't remember where, but I. Could be wrong, I don't think it was Reg Harris though. Sylvia

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Jul-2014
    Thank you Sylvia. Mary Clarke has put me right. It was Harry Hall. She knows her West Gorton History.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Jul-2014
    That has got the memory going. Mid 50s my gran said she would buy me a bike for Christmas from Harry Hall, so he collected gran, dad and me in December and drove us to a bicycle warehouse for me to choose. I knew exactly what I wanted, a drop handlebar five speed but I was too small for them all. They then showed me the only two that I was big enough for and one was too old fashioned for my granda... more >>

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 23-Jul-2014
    Harry Hall bought Perrins pawn shop on Hyde Road next to Ashmore Street, he made a lot of bikes himself for racing. I bought my first bike off him in 1955 from money I saved from my Paper round. It cost 18 pound 12 shillings and sixpence.
    Ken Frost

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 23-Jul-2014
    I had a few bikes from down West Gorton , too. HAHA,:)

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Jul-2014
    Do you remember Harry Hall's wife "Jean"? She was a friendly girl, and lived in Moorland Street (off Forbes Street where I lived.)

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Louisa Hannam (Member 10291887) on 25-Jul-2014
    Does anyone remember the shop next to the bank (I think) on the corner of welling ton street and Hyde road, they sold kids bikes and prams ,they had a little monkey in the shop.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 25-Jul-2014
    It was James' , they sold bikes and prams etc. Just a little further along was Connellys coaches.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Louisa Hannam (Member 10291887) on 25-Jul-2014
    Your Right it was James ,been trying to think of that name for ages ,thanks.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 25-Jul-2014
    Don't you remember Lou, they had a son who we all called jammy james, because he stuck to his money.love Sylvia

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Norma Jones (Member 10291343) on 25-Jul-2014
    Mary did you know Ailsa Payne who lived on Forbes Street?

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
    Norma..yes I did know her slightly, because they had a little grocery shop facing us, she was a bit younger than me, but i remember thinking I had never heard that Christian name before.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Louisa Hannam (Member 10291887) on 25-Jul-2014
    Hi Sylvia,all I remember is the little monkey ,I used to take the kids in to see it on the way home from the nursery.im still waiting for that letter ,how are you hope you and Fred are doing ok.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 25-Jul-2014
    Well Lou believe it or not, I have had the letter written for about 2 weeks! Just have not got around to posting it yet! Will try and do so on Monday, it's so hot here at the moment it is hard to do anything but laze around, hope you and yours are all well.loveSyl.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Stuart parsonage (Member 10291244) on 25-Jul-2014
    Hi Folks I remember Harry Halls shop well in the 50's. Does anybody remember the following people who lived In Forbes St. between Goddards the shop in Forbes St. and Hunters Lane. Johnny King, Freddy Ramsden, Graham Knibbs , Brian Ogden. Also, Keith Philips form Moreland street and Peter Maloney from Nut St.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
    Yes Stuart I remember Goddards Shop, also Peter Malonie and his mum and dad, And a curly headed David King, Good old days when we were all childhood playmates

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Stuart parsonage (Member 10291244) on 26-Jul-2014
    Hi Mary, Peter Maloney had two sisters, Margaret and Winifred, also two other girls lived in the area, Brenda Uckley, I am unsure of the spelling of her surname, and Jeannie Mundy, do you any of there people. You are quite correct, it was a great time growing up with these people, outside playing in the streets every night, making our own entertainment with what ever was on hand.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 26-Jul-2014
    I remember Margaret and Winefred, one had lovely red hair, their dad was our gas collector, you know when they used to empty the meters and find foreign coins in it when you were hard up I was with him and his wife round the bon fire as we celebrated the end of the war, I was a little girl of 12 sat on his knee, singing all the Irish songs with him. In Forbes Street.

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 26-Jul-2014
    Bikes ! Bought my first bike from a shop on Hyde Road, carn't remember the name of the shop bu the bike was a 'Sun Manxman'. The shop was across the road from Harry Crowes pawnshop and to the left of the bike shop was where they used to 'cook' the school dinners that came to Peacock Street school, you could smell them 5 minutes before they arrived!
    Anybody remember when Harry Crowes shop was 'don... more >>

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 26-Jul-2014
    Jim, the bike shop was Cowans, i got my first proper bike there too. it was a Dawes and bright orange. My mum signed the papers with
    my dads signature so i could have it at 5 bob a week, boy did i think i was the bees knees up and down Ryder brow road as fast as i could.
    I do remember the policemen being done for their slight of hand at Harry Crowes, smash and grab raids were quite common in th... more >>

  • Re: Right Or Wrong by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Jul-2014
    I remember Harry Hall's shop Bill, I always thought that he was a former professional rider who rode at the old Fallowfield Stadium with Reg Harris, but it could have been one of those famous West Gorton/Gorton fables!
    The first "real" bike I ever saw close up was a Coventry Eagle owned by my mate Eddie Frost who lived on Clowes Street close to your family.
    His Dad, Eddie Frost Senior, was the M... more >>

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Rainy Days by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-Jul-2014
Listening to and seeing the news covering the recent storms takes me back to stormy days in Gorton, I well remember some very hot summers, all the windows wide open hoping for a breeze. Milk bottles in bowls of cold water under the sink. Some amazing thunderstorms and lightening displays. My two mates and I used to stand in the doorway of Bill Sturgess's butcher shop at the corner of Parker Street... more >>   
  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 20-Jul-2014
    I remember those storms well Jim, I remember sitting on the stairs with my auntie who was terrified of them, and the stairs was the only place she could not see the lightning from. I could never understand why she was so afraid , because I found it exciting, and she was normally such a strong character who everyone turned to in times of trouble Sylvia

  • Re: Rainy Days by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 20-Jul-2014
    My dad was bothered by thunder, if he was in bed on nights he would run down the stairs with an excuse, or get up in the middle
    of the night and put all the lights on much to my mothers annoyance. I think all of us have something we can run away from
    mine is cockroaches, can't stand them i have to get away.

  • Re: Rainy Days by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 20-Jul-2014
    Hi everyone
    Still enjoying reading all the posts on the site.
    There was an elderly lady that lived facing us on Hoyland Street who used to open her front and back doors when there was thunder and lightening because she was convinced the lightening would go straight through the house and out the other side.
    That was if the radio was off, if the radio was on then it would be struck by lightening.
    Dangerous Dave

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-Jul-2014
    Talking of cockroaches, I am absolutely horrified by them, and believe me there are some huge ones here in Spain, we have been here nearly twenty years and I still can't get less afraid of them. We have a special plug that keeps them out of the house thank god, but they are still to be seen outside,but I remember that a lot of the old houses in gorton had them, my grandmas house in bury street was... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 21-Jul-2014
    Sylvia, My granny Mary Farrell lived at 30 Bury street , her son Tommy lived at 48, his son also Tommy was killed as a young boy
    by a cricket ball in Peter Pan park on Chapman Street. A daughter of my granny also Mary (Known as Polly) lived at 26 and was
    married to Billy Walker. I only ever Knew my granny to be in bed as she was an invalid. I used to go straight from school (Sacred Heart )
    ... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-Jul-2014
    Well it's certainly a small world, I knew mrs Farrell. And also was madly in love with jackie Farrell, as were half the girls in gorton, it was a wonderful neighbourhood, we all took care of each other, and actually cared for each other related or not. My gran actually lived in vernon st but her back yard came in bury street as she lived on the corner of bury street, facing the little corner shop... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 21-Jul-2014
    Sylvia, Jackie is my cousin, i lost contact years ago and if he is still alive he is the last survivor of that family. Do you remember his
    sister Eileen, she was unfortunately killed in a air crash at the northern airport of Teneriffe with her husband Jack Maher. Do you
    remember the Farrickers or the Websters of Bury St ? . Nice to hear somebody who knows people i know.

  • Re: Rainy Days by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-Jul-2014
    Sylvia and the two Daves. Quite a few names mentioned earlier, any dates to go with them, they appear familiar to me .
    To add to the cockroach theme, after 30 years in the tropics in various places I have to say that the biggest 'cockies' we came acroos were in the Seychelles. They were enormous and they could fly as well ! Not sure if all 'cockies' can fly but these did, we had a cat that could ... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-Jul-2014
    Yes Dave I knew the farrickers and the websters,Georgie and Ann Webster, and the Lunts and Maureen and Dereck Francis also frank Reid , joe and Winifred Rothwell to name just a few it was such a long street I was born in 1937 so I am talking about 1947 or thereabouts,and just a random fact all cockroaches can fly that's what makes them more terrifying for me.Sylvia

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-Jul-2014
    Jim , what part of gorton did you live, I tend to believe you are younger than me, I have heard before about cockroaches in the Seychelles, but as you so rightly say all hidden from touristsSylvia

  • Re: Rainy Days by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 21-Jul-2014
    Thanks for the info Sylvia, i was born 1945. Cockroaches flying makes it worse ! Thanks a lot, ha ha .

  • Re: Rainy Days by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-Jul-2014
    My abiding memory of cockroaches stems from living on Clowes Street in the 1950's, and in the warm evenings they would swarm up the stone steps from the damp cellar where Mother used to wash on a Friday.
    The cellar always felt and smelled damb and the cockroaches would head for the back kitchen to feed on anything that had been dropped on the flagstone floor.
    Horrible things - with no purpose in life, like wasps.

  • Re: Rainy Days by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Jul-2014
    I went to Mallorca in 1965 when I was 17 and Spain was a fascist dictatorship led by Generalissimo Franco. They had roaches the size of a matchbox which became active at dusk and these buggers could fly or at least jump higher than a man and land several metres away.
    If you stamped near them they would jump and I launched one one evening and it leaped right up my trouser leg. Urrgh. Never did it ... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-Jul-2014
    Trust me Billy they weren't jumping they were bloody flying, and they take all winter mating, and then in summer they lay their eggs and one egg contains lots of cockroaches.ugh! Horrible facts but true and you are so right about the size!!! I really don't know why I am talking about the bloody things because I have a phobia about them, but they say face your fears and they will diminish. (Not) sylvia

  • Re: Rainy Days by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-Jul-2014
    Sylvia. I lived at No.5 Parker Street 9 later it was named Palin Street!). Parker Street was off Church Lane in between Casson Street and Peacock Street. Went to primary school at Peacock Street School and later moved to Varna Street for Secondary schooling. Don't know your age but I hit 75 last Jan. Will be up in M/c for a week from 14th. August, hoping the weather holds !
    Take care. Jim.

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-Jul-2014
    Jim,I am 77,and I lived on a little dirt street off wellington st my husband lived on casson street he went to peacock street school and St. James's,then st Margaret's. He is 80 now so probably you won't know him ,he is called Fred Morgan. Sylvia

  • Re: Rainy Days by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 21-Jul-2014
    Dave
    Just read your post re the Farrickers of Bury Street. It rang a bell with me so I rung my mum.
    There was Farrickers in our family on my maternal grandma's side. They lived in Bury Street. We are off to see her tomorrow night so I will quiz her about it.
    Little Dave

  • Re: Rainy Days by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Jul-2014
    Little David Wright
    Nice to see your contributions on this site Dave. Love to Lynda.

  • Re: Rainy Days by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Jul-2014
    Hi Dave, you and Linda OK mate?

  • Re: Rainy Days by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 22-Jul-2014
    Sylvia and Dave
    Just had a chat with my Mam about the people you wrote about. I did nor realise how complicated the family was on my Grandma's side. I made a couple of notes but there was too much info and not enough brain space.
    My Grandma's eldest brother was Tommy who was married to Mary Farrell.
    My Great Grandma was Polly Moody known as blind Polly. she lived on Bury Street but moved to Wal... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 23-Jul-2014
    I knew all the people you mentioned.albert and Norah were my parents best friends,prolly moody , I used to go errands for her, and used to carry her shopping home to whalley street for her, she used to give me sixpence, she was a lovely lady, she had a daughter who was a famous singer called Kathleen moody, who was married to Lou grade, but didn't do much for her mother, but she was very proud of ... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 23-Jul-2014
    Hiya Dave further to my last entry, it should read lew grade as in sir Lew grade the impresario, they were married for years until they died. Janey Bintcliffe was a lady who had one daughter called Joan, who was the same age as me, and I used to play with her when I was at my grans house. I used to also spend a lot of time in the globe pub in the back, because Albert and Norah had a daughter cal... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 23-Jul-2014
    Hi Sylvia
    You are right you probably know more about my family than I do. I have always known the Lew Grade connection but not being a name dropper I kept it quiet.LOL
    Check it out on Wikki.
    Aunt Norah and Uncle Albert moved to Denton when they left the pub and Albert worked for the Post Office until he retired. They then sold up and moved to Malaga. Young Norah and her husband followed later. ... more >>

  • Re: Rainy Days by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 23-Jul-2014
    My parents were also good friends with Mary and jack Reid. They had their first Irish holiday with them at mrs Byrds house in bray, you were probably with them, it really is a small world, my parents are long dead and gone, but memories linger. Have a good holiday, it has been a real pleasure talking to you, it has revived many things I thought I had forgotten cheers sylvia

  • Re: Rainy Days by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Jul-2014
    I remember one afternoon in the 1950's when I lived on Clowes Street, and there was a tremendous thunderstorm, accompanied by a huge bang which blew open the front door off the latch.
    I was told that it was a "thunderbolt" that had travelled down Clowes Street during the storm.
    I know that you believed anything you were told when you were a kid, but I often wonder if this was true?

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Dont Worry Sylvia by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 19-Jul-2014
Hello Sylvia, dont think we've all abandoned you, but most of us are on Facebook sites now, you get almost instant replies and can add your photos of old Gorton or whatever you're into. I'm sure we all pop in here every few days to catch up on what's being said. I'm busy helping to arrange our next school reunion, this time in Blackpool. Before that I have an old school friend staying next wee... more >>   
  • Re: Dont Worry Sylvia by Louisa Hannam (Member 10291887) on 25-Jul-2014
    Sylvia,why don't you join facebook ,and then go on man 18 lots of photos in gorton one of the house jean lived in,all you have to do is put facebook in search bar and then just join it is so easy.

  • Re: Dont Worry Sylvia by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
    yes would be nice to talk to you on face book Sylvia, it is more enjoyable with photographs, and sometimes more private when using the inbox

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The Mass Trespass by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 8-Jul-2014
Recently learned that a younger brother of my Grandfather was on the Mass Trespass from Hayfield in 1932. Never knew about this even though I knew him and he encouraged me and my cousin to 'get up the hills'. I did and loved it and eventually became a part-time Warden/Ranger on Kinder and Bleaklow.
Has anybody out there seen/read 'The Battle for Kinder Scout including the 1932 Mass Trepass' by th... more >>
  
  • Re: The Mass Trespass by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 8-Jul-2014
    I remember the Sundays spent around 1960 hiking to Kinder scout. Got the steam train from Belle Vue station in the morning and got
    off at Hayfield, we then walked from Hayfield station to Kinder scout the road took us past a cafe that was like a big black shed that
    served tea and toast, when we could afford it . We eventually got to a place i think was called "The mud slide" that was a track ... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 8-Jul-2014
    It was1953 that I did my hiking days to hayfield and kinder scout also castleton,along with a super crowd of lads and girls,Ronnie Hardwick, Paul and Brian miller Ted griffiths, and a lad who was on the run from national service named Don flint he camped up in the hills, and waited for week ends when we would take up food for him. At the end of our hike we would end up in the George pub in hayfiel... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 10-Jul-2014
    I will be on Kinder tomorrow. Report to follow.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 11-Jul-2014
    We went to climb Kinder Scout today and we studied the maps with our usual military precision and got on a train at Blackpool bound for Edale. A quick brew at the station and we set off at a cracking pace, Onward and upward and upward and upward. We never realised how out of shape we were but we got back down in a fraction of the time thanks to gravity and the promise of a pint.
    At Edale station ... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 12-Jul-2014
    Hope you had a good day out. Trying to work out where you went if you think you weren't on Kinder. If you found 'The Nags Head' pub in Edale village and took the path that runs around the back of the pub and leads you by a stream and forever upwards, part of the path would be paved in old flagstones brought in from demolished mills in M/c. If you did go this way then you were walking up Grindsbroo... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 12-Jul-2014
    That is the way we went Jim and we had a pint in the Nags. Then we had another and a whitebait salad in the hotel by Edale station.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 13-Jul-2014
    So you did get onto Kinder Scout Billy ! the Nags and I go back a very long way, I was about 16 first time I entered the place. No doubt its changed a great deal these last years. I recall a time when the landlord was a certain Fred Herdman (there is a plantation up the path which is named after him!), he was a real character! In those days when you ordered a pint of his best bitter he used to ope... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 13-Jul-2014
    I learnt to swim at Kinder in the 50s Jim at Park Hall Pool opposite The Lantern Pike pub in Little Hayfield. A beautiful open air pool which was open to the public and fed from one of the streams on Kinder Scout so the water was always freezing.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 15-Jul-2014
    I recall a story of a light aircraft crashing on Kinder Scout late 50s early 60s, does anybody know if this is correct ?. Or is my memory wrong ?.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 15-Jul-2014
    Having a look at Google there seems to have been quite a lot of plane crashes there, military ones in the main.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 19-Jul-2014
    I don't know about mass trespass, it seems more like a mass exodus! Where is everybody?please don't abandon the site, I so look forward to reading about everyone's memories, including adding a few of my own. These days it's rare to find a group of like minded people sharing so many similar experiences from the same area, and I love reading about them.so come on Billy, John, Linda and BODZY and ot... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 19-Jul-2014
    Hello Dave and Sylvia, no exodus as far as I'm concerned, just a complete loss of service as far as The Knowhere Guide is concerned, today is the first time in 3 full days that I have been able to log on !
    Dave, you are quite right, lots of aircraft crashes on Kinder, about 50 I think with about 100 people lost. The planes range from a B29 of the US airforce to a British Meteor jet, most went dow... more >>

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 19-Jul-2014
    I owe this site a debt of gratitude Sylvia over these last few years. Old pals re-met after sometimes 50 years and new, old Gorton chums.
    This has happened on FB too and it has its advantages but I would be sorry to see our message board go the way of many other sites.
    Good Gorton folk deserve a lively forum like this so we use it or we lose it.
    Your pal Billy

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-Jul-2014
    I agree Bill, and I can never quite understand why Knowhere sites don't adopt the technology that would permit the posting of photographs, it's a great pity because they add so much to the written word.
    It may well have something to do with the fact that most FB sites who already use the technology also have someone acting as a Supervisor as such.
    Pity really.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Jul-2014
    I my experience John not all moderators on FB sites are on the case especially with regard to allowing free advertising and offensive material. No names no pack drill but you know what I mean.

  • Re: The Mass Trespass by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Jul-2014
    I certainly do Bill.
    It seems that on occasions it's one rule for everyone except a selected view, and there's no consistency at times.
    "Best rates for mates" seems to be the order of the day.

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Belle Vue Aces by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Jun-2014
I used to go to see these boys at every home match in the early 60s (Peter Craven) but haven't seen speedway for 50 years. I am going back to see them next Monday and the son of one of my mates will be racing for The Aces.
Another one for the readers is "The Gatekeeper by Terry Eagleton". An autobiography of the son of Irish Catholic immigrants in the 1950s. Full of humour, irreverence and pathos... more >>
  
  • Re: Belle Vue Aces by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Jun-2014
    Forgot to mention that the story is based in Salford.

  • Re: Belle Vue Aces by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Jun-2014
    I have just spoken to my mam who is 91 years old and she told me that she used to go to the speedway 70 years ago. She stood by the first bend and got covered in muck and that is where I used to stand.

  • Re: Belle Vue Aces by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 24-Jun-2014
    Me and my two mates must have been stood at the same corner as your Mum ! Going home ( until we 'found' a way into Belle Vue proper!) with our faces black and hair full of cynders, usually calling in the 'chippy' and being asked, 'how's the Aces done'?
    Read an article recently that Speedway had fired up again ( had it ever stopped?) and that the Aces were once more on the track???1
    More info., please!
    Jim.

  • Re: Belle Vue Aces by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 24-Jun-2014
    Google Belle Vue Aces Jim. I will be there cheering the lads on next Monday. They race at the dog track these days which is fitting as that was where The Aces started out before our fantastic stadium was built at Hunters Lane.

  • Re: Belle Vue Aces by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Jun-2014
    Good posts Bill.
    Me and our kid went every other Saturday (was never a stock- car fan myself), but loved the bikes.
    Remember the late, great Peter Craven, then Ivan Mauger and subsequently Peter Collins.
    Loved that distinctive fuel smell, seeing those gleaming JAP engines.
    Can you remember that slightly creepy bloke who drove the tractor round the track between races, he used to leer at the yo... more >>

  • Re: Belle Vue Aces by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 1-Jul-2014
    What a good night at Belle Vue yesterday watching The Aces batter Birmingham.

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Book Of The Month by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 17-Jun-2014
My library has supplied me with a copy a book I have heard much about. "The Manchester Man" beautifully written by Mrs G Linnaeus Banks.
A novel about life in the early 19th century with vivid descriptions of life in that period including "The Peterloo Massacre" which has its bi-centenary in 2019.
Perhaps not for everyone but I can hardly put the book down. Loads of charming dialect words with explanations.
  
  • Re: Book Of The Month by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-Jun-2014
    Hello Billy. Have been out of contact for quite a while, lost my internet connection completely, anybody else had this problem ?
    Books, have asked our local library to search out your latest read and will give it a go ! Can I put forward a couple of 'reads'. The first being 'The Gangs of Manchester' by Andrew Davies.
    Very interesting if a bit repetitive at times but good photos and lots of names... more >>

  • Re: Book Of The Month by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 20-Jun-2014
    I have "The Gangs of Manchester" Jim and I went through both schools with one of the characters.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 22-Jun-2014
    I was on a cruise a couple of years ago and one of the events was a talk on the "Gangs of Manchester" by a ex detective from
    Manchester who was Andrew Davies who was obviously promoting his book, it was interesting enough but didn't tempt me into buying
    a signed copy. I wondered if John Holmes knows of this detective from his own experience of Manchester policing.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 23-Jun-2014
    Hi yawll bodzy here again I was in Central Library waiting for a P.C. when I spied this book Gangs of Manchester I couldn't put it down next day on facebook I spotted Andrew Davies promoting his book so I complemented him and finished up have a few good chats , he had a promotion in Manchester in a few weeks so I told him I would be there, so he autographed my copy and made me the proud owner of ... more >>

  • Re: Book Of The Month by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 28-Jun-2014
    This is nothing to do with book of the month. It's about one of our friends, Mary twin of Margaret Clarke,she has been absent from the site a long time, and I wondered if anyone knows if she is ok. Sylvia

  • Re: Book Of The Month by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 28-Jun-2014
    Yes, she appears to be OK Sylvia, she is on one of the Facebook sites at the moment. Dont worry, sometimes you just get caught up in the moment on these sites, especially when people post photos and it sparks a memory for you. Hope u r ok Sylvia.....

  • Re: Book Of The Month by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 29-Jun-2014
    Thanks Lynda for bothering to reply, yes I am fine, I have just celebrated my77th birthday with family who are here on holiday so it was really nice,hope your family are well,especially your mother, and of course your rascally brother.loveSylvia x.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Jun-2014
    Hi Lynda and Sylvia, just back from two weeks' holiday yesterday, and just catching up.
    Hope everyone is well?
    Hope to visit Gorton again soon, it's changing all the time.
    Me and our kid had pie, chips and peas, bread and butter and sweet tea in Sivori's cafe on Gorton Market a few weeks ago, and boy, did THAT take us back a few years.
    Love to both and to Mrs B.
    John. X.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 29-Jun-2014
    John.
    This weekend I have been in Scarborough with Little David Wright and his lovely Lady Linda who seem to have abandoned this site. Tell you about it on the 17th if we pull it off.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 29-Jun-2014
    Hi everyone
    I have not abandoned the site, how could I? I enjoy reading all the messages and I know I should try a bit {a lot}to respond to the efforts of you all. No excuses. We have had a lovely weekend with Billy and that would have not happened without this site putting us back in contact after a century or so.
    Just had a great afternoon at the Bridgewater Hall watching one of our grandchild... more >>

  • Re: Book Of The Month by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 29-Jun-2014
    You are correct about the century Dave. 50 years of your life and 50 of mine, and Gorton Message Board brought us together again.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 29-Jun-2014
    Hello John, glad to hear you had a good holiday, the weather here is very hot, but there is a lovely breeze, it's really very pleasant and I enjoy living here,but there is a lot to be said for good old Britain,nowhere in the world are there people like the British, and of course the wonderful gorton natives, I think maybe it could be an age thing, because the older I get the more I look through ro... more >>

  • Re: Book Of The Month by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 30-Jun-2014
    Welcome Back David & Linda Wright - missed ya. Lxxxxx

  • Re: Book Of The Month by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Jul-2014
    Welcome back Dave and Linda, great to hear you are both fit and well.
    Speak soon mate, and take care,
    John.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Jul-2014
    Thank you Sylvia, just about got back into the routine at home after lovely Devon coastline, will be ready for another break soon I hope.
    Sounds lovely where you are,
    John.

  • Re: Book Of The Month by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 7-Jul-2014
    Hello John, yes it is a lovely place, it's very rural, and I had to learn spanish when we first came here as nobody knew any English, so that was quite difficult, it's a world away from the streets of gorton, and I wonder sometimes how I have been so lucky to end up here.we have really a luxury life style that would not be possible in the uk, but for all of that I still miss England, even though I... more >>

  • Re: Book Of The Month by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Jul-2014
    Bill, about ten years ago I had an original print of Mrs Banks' book, beautifully bound it was, and I read it about three times before gifting it to a bloke who retired from BAA before me, a real Manchester Man he was, born in Hulme, and he treasured it.

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Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by Geoff Clark (Member 10293522) on 4-Jun-2014
Hi,
I am an Australian who is trying to trace my mother's family and siblings who lived at #4 Wellesly Street and #12 Friendship Avenue, Gorton, in the years between 1908 and 1922, when they migrated to Australia.
Does anybody have photos or prints that I could obtain copies of those streets taken during those years.
Thanking you
Geoff Clark
Adelaide, South Australia
  
  • Re: Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 4-Jun-2014
    to Geoff in Aussie there are plenty of photo's of the streets you asked about on the Manchester local image collection
    http://images.manchester.gov.uk/AdvQuery.php?session=pa and type in Gorton then go through the images failing that send a email address to me and I'll pick some out

  • Re: Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by Geoff Clark (Member 10293522) on 6-Jun-2014
    Thank you Alan.
    I went on that site but must have been looking in the wrong area.
    The pictures that I found were posted by a T. Brooks and had a date of 1964.
    These pictures do not look much different to what is seen on Google Earth today.
    I feel that pictures of Wellesly Street, (now Wellesley), and Friendship Avenue would have looked somewhat different the pictures taken 6 years either side ... more >>

  • Re: Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jun-2014
    Is that Wellesley and a Friendship a Avenue in Gorton off a Chapman Street, just let me know please?

  • Re: Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 8-Jun-2014
    Friendship avenue is off Hyde road going towards reddish the friendship pub is on the corner of friendship avenue,just before reddish bridge.sylvia.

  • Re: Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Jun-2014
    Of course, thanks Sylvia, totally misplaced them, appreciated.

  • Re: Pre and Post WW1 photos of Gorton by Geoff Clark (Member 10293522) on 12-Jun-2014
    Thanks for your replies.
    I am not familiar with the area, but from what I can see on Google Maps, Wellesley comes off Chapman and Friendship is off Hyde.
    I rechecked my mother's birth certificate and Wellesley is spelt with an "ey" and not Just a "y" as I originally asked.
    I can only hope that someone may know of an archive where I can search.
    A friend sent me a print of what appeared to be ol... more >>

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Re-Reunion by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 2-Jun-2014
Who's coming to the reunion at the Lord Nelson on Sunday? Should we meet outside?
Maybe it would be a good idea if we wore something with our name on (a sticky label or a post it note) so we know who is who. I've been to these reunions before and usually you walk into a sea of faces that you don't recognise. Hope to see you there.
  
  • Re: Re-Reunion by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Jun-2014
    Hi Anne,
    Really sorry but I am at a wedding in South Wales the day before and would be struggling to get from there to Manchester in time.
    Hope it goes really well, take plenty of photographs?
    Apologies again,
    John.x.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 4-Jun-2014
    Hiya All, with regards to the reunion, I'm saying a yes from me so I will be going , with regard to name tags I think its the best idea, I 've bee to others and felt exactly the same thing (unknown faces ) others I have been to though have had the organisers on the door asking names and sticking labels on you , Pity you cant make it John thought it might have been that meet up time we could have... more >>

  • Re: Re-Reunion by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Jun-2014
    Hi Alan,
    Yes sorry about missing this meeting, we could have had our long-awaited chin-wag, but like you say, we are still young (at heart at least) and perhaps we can arrange something this summer in Gorton - there's not much left of West Gorton mate.
    Hope the meeting goes well, try and get on some of Anne's photographs if you can Alan.
    Best wishes to all Gortonians.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 4-Jun-2014
    Hi ann, I'm really sorry I won't be able to be at the reunion,I really envy all you gortonians who will be getting together, perhaps you could give a good write up on knowhere, to let people like me who live too far away to attend,get an idea who did go and what kind of a day you had.best of luck to you all, and please let us know how it goes Sylvia x.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 5-Jun-2014
    Thanks Sylvia, wish you could be here. I'll let you know all about it. Look forward to seeing you Alan.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 5-Jun-2014
    Soz I cant be there Anne, already travelled to a reunion this week to meet my old school girlfriends - and I have family commitments this weekend anyway. Have fun and let us know how it went. Lxx

  • Re: Re-Reunion by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 9-Jun-2014
    Anne,
    How did Sunday's reunion go, I hope it was well-attended?
    Sorry to have missed it, John .x.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 9-Jun-2014
    Hi Everyone,
    Had a great time at the reunion yesterday and there were lots of people there. Met up with Alan Bowden and it was nice to see a face to a name. My friend Margaret and I met up with our great old friends Alf, Frank and Eric Simpson from Hampden Grove and we had a good laugh about old times. I was having problems with my new phone and Alan helped me out. He has posted some lovely pho... more >>

  • Re: Re-Reunion by alfred simpson (Member 10291376) on 9-Jun-2014
    Hi ann it Was great to see u and margeret on sunday cannot not find u on face book will u look for me thank u had a good day really enjoyed it

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 10-Jun-2014
    Hi Alf,
    It really was great to see you on Sunday, me and Margaret enjoyed it so much. I am on Facebook as Anne Irving. I'll ask to be your friend and then you will be able to contact me (I hope). Where are your photos? Love Annexx

  • Re: Re-Reunion by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 10-Jun-2014
    Mary Clarke, where are you?hope all is well with you and yours,I know you are having a few problems, but hope you are personally ok.Sylvia x.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 10-Jun-2014
    Hi Sylvia, last time I was on here I recall Mary saying she was having a holiday abroad. Maybe she's still away.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 11-Jun-2014
    Thanks Lynda, I do remember her saying she was going to lanzarote, so you are probably right ,Sylvia x.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 21-Jun-2014
    Thanks for thinking of me, everything is fine here, just very very busy, as I have brought my husband home out of the care home he was in,and it's hard work, but at least he's happy now. Had a nice time in Lanzarote, so that was a big help, thanks to Paul my son. Here,s wishing you all the best, and I'll enjoy reading your newsy messages,

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 21-Jun-2014
    Thanks Mary, I thought you were back in circulation, have I seen you on one of the other sites, Gorton M18 maybe?? Hope u enjoyed your break away and nice to hear hubby is glad to be home. Lx

  • Re: Re-Reunion by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Jul-2014
    Hi Mary, I hope you are keeping well mate? John.x.

  • Re: Re-Reunion by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-Aug-2014
    Hi John, I'm not so bad, thanks for asking! I enjoy those photo's of you and your lovely family by the way!

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Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-May-2014
I am trying to confirm a story I have read that there was once a Workhouse in the Gorton or West Gorton area of Manchester, around the 1830's I believe.
The problem I have is that I have been unable to confirm that this information is correct despite looking in a lot of reference books.
As you know, these Workhouses were often huge buildings, built to accomodate hundreds of unfortunate inmates, ... more >>
  
  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-May-2014
    Well John I can definitely confirm it existed, because I used to live with my family when young in the attendants houses, long after they had gone of course.On wellington street gorton there was a drapers shop, and next to the drapers was a largish sort of old house, the house had been part of the the sleeping quarters of the inmates, who I was told were mainly women and children,and next door to... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-May-2014
    The drapers was called coynes.Sylvia

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 21-May-2014
    John, there were at least two workhouses in the Gorton area but I don't know which period.
    One was at 8 Burtinshaw St, and the other was 42 Jackson St, Abbey Hey. Think these might be later than 1830.

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 22-May-2014
    Just been looking at a map on the back page of
    'Childhood memories of Gorton in the 1920's' by Harry Chadwick, very interesting text and photos.
    On Cross Lane between Wellington Street and Chapman Street is a chapel which may or may not still be there! My Grandparents were the caretakers at that chapel for several years before moving to the Church Lane area. My mother.born 1905, used to tell tal... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-May-2014
    That is a coincidence Jim. John Holmes and myself were standing on that bridge yesterday looking down at Gore Brooke as it made its way into sunny Brow Park. We also located Gorton Brook (Blackie Brook) which was also called Corn Brook. We found it in a position behind where Arrowsmiths shop once stood and the brook disappears into a culvert under Pottery Lane and guess what? Even without any indu... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 23-May-2014
    Good to hear from you two doing the 'rounds' of the old sights. Do you by any chance know the history of that bridge and its name, ie. 'Maiden's Bridge'. Never heard of it until I looked at this map. My Grandad used to have an allotment down Far Lane.
    According to this map, Gore Brook ran through Tan Yard Brow to ----where-ever!
    Hopeing to be up in Romiley sometime in August, no fixed dates as y... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-May-2014
    Gore Brook does indeed run through Tan Yard Brow Jim and right past the Vale Cottage pub where we had lunch. It is the run off from the Debdale reservoirs and is nice and clean. After Sunny Brow Park I think it goes underground. It is said that Maidens Bridge was so called because it allowed the ladies to cross the brook without having to raise their skirts on the ford and exposing their legs. Spo... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 24-May-2014
    The brook does go underground and comes out again at the other side of what was the coal yard near the old monkey bridge. It goes
    underground again and reappears at the other end of Annie lee Playing fields on Mount road.
    Brookfield church cemetery was in a bad state in the early 1960s, I remember there being very little in the way of church funds to
    maintain it and Manchester Council were no... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 24-May-2014
    Sorry it wasn't a coal yard, it was the council yard on Knutsford road my mother used to buy coke from there in the 50s to burn on the fire. Theres a different use for coke these days.

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-May-2014
    To Sylvia, thank you so much for all that information.
    I had no idea that there was this premises off Wellington Street and it sounds fascinating.
    I intend to copy what you have written and really study it carefully, you have given me an awful lot to research, thank you so much.

    To Jim, Bill is spot on about Maidens Bridge getting it's name from those shy Gorton Ladies many years ago, I read... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-May-2014
    On my way home from meeting Bill and Tony, I found the original stone tablet that marks the old boundary between Ardwick and Gorton.
    It is set in brickwork on Hyde Road between Toll Bar Street and the Fenian Arches viaduct, and is crumbling and weathered and almost illegible due to years of neglect.
    If you look carefully, you can still make out the script, which reads "Townships of Gorton - Ardw... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-May-2014
    To Kate and Dave, many thanks to you too for your information, I will make sure I research this and post any results on here, thanks again.
    John H.

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 25-May-2014
    Hello Mary, hope you are well, we old ones have to keep an eye on these youngsters,so just a little message to be sure you are well, Sylvia x

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John Brian Hughes (Member 10271461) on 27-May-2014
    This isn't "workhouse" related, however posts here are quit recent. Can anyone remember the Lillyman family, lived at 5 Pollitt Street, also the Henderson family,Ainsdale Street, Em, husband Will, daughters Marjory & Audrey. I am trying to find Audrey,(widowed) cant recall her married name, can anyone help please?

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Jun-2014
    John,

    Approximately what year did Audrey Henderson marry?

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Jun-2014
    Message for John Brian HUGHES:
    According to the Births, Marriages and Deaths Records held at the National Archive, Kew, London, it appears there have only been four recent marriages of a person names Audrey Henderson:
    1973 - Audrey A Henderson married Ronald K DEVENPORT at Manchester (Reference 10e/494)
    1954 - Audrey Henderson married Terence A BURROWS at Manchester (Reference 10e/555)
    1991 - ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Workhouse by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Jul-2014
    I replied to John Brian HUGHES about seven weeks ago, has anybody hear from him since please?

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What I'm going to do tomorrow by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 16-May-2014
Thinking of going for a swim followed by roller skating at the local sports centre.   
  • Re: What I'm going to do tomorrow by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 18-May-2014
    Well Kate as a one off special offer to go with the yoga lessons.I am offering free swimming classes for all ages and abilities, in my own private pool. All you need is your air fare from manchester to alicante.love Sylvia x

  • Re: What I'm going to do tomorrow by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 19-May-2014
    Sounds like a good idea Sylvia, I'm all for it. We could even have our 'Gorton re-union' at your place?
    Just tell us which time is best for you!

  • Re: What I'm going to do tomorrow by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-May-2014
    wander around in the fog if its anything like today !!!

  • Re: What I'm going to do tomorrow by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 21-May-2014
    Well Jim, I can promise no fog, but lots of sunshine,and whatever you want to drink and good food,it's just the drawback of being so far away, but maybe you could offer trips under the channel on your bike, we may be able to bring a new experience to gorton reunions, what do you think .Sylvia.

  • Re: What I'm going to do tomorrow by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 22-May-2014
    Sylvia, whats this, no fog and lots of sunshine !! If we could find our way to the station we'd be on our way in a flash, carn't even see the gate at the minute, its supposed to clear later!
    Thanks and all the best, enjoy the sun! Jim.

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Nice Weather by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 16-May-2014
Been out on me bike today   
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Nice Day. by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 16-May-2014
Nice day here near sunny Southport. ( just to get the advert going down the page ).   
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Yoga class in Gorton by Brendan (Member 10293063) on 14-May-2014
Hi, I recently started a new Yoga Class in Gorton on Tuesday evenings, be great to see some of you there, here are the details.

General Yoga Class, Tuesday evenings 7pm to 8.30pm (starting Tuesday 6th May) St Philip's Church Hall, Brookhurst Rd, Gorton, Manchester, M18 8UQ.

Cost is £5 per lesson. This is a general Hatha Yoga class, mixed ability, incorporating vinyasa flow sequences, stea... more >>
  
  • Re: Yoga class in Gorton by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 15-May-2014
    Thanks for the info but, i think the majority of people who watch and contribute to this site live many many miles away these days and it is
    unlikely that many will want to travel for your yoga class. Thanks anyway, but i think you will find your advertising will be more
    successful elsewhere.

  • Re: Yoga class in Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 15-May-2014
    We haven't had the "Pets Advice" advert on here for ages. They offered prizes.

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D-DAY. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 3-May-2014
Heres one for the older Gorton folks. Almost 70 years since the D-Day landings--- any memories ?
For me it was a bit of a mystery, suddenly, all the uncles I hadn't seen for ages were back on the home front and visiting . This must have been just about 70 years ago, almost to the day.
Of course, this was their final leave before the invasion. They all came through it OK . I can still remember th... more >>
  
  • Re: D-DAY. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 5-May-2014
    Good on you Jim for keeping the memory alive, of those brave men, never should they be forgotten. I was 6 when I tried my gas mask on, and 12 when it all ended, I was asked by an American relative of mine, what was the war like? and were us kids scared, well I think the adults were more scared, us kids took it as normal at my young age, I for one couldn't remember the before war, I didn't know the... more >>

  • Re: D-DAY. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 7-May-2014
    Hi Mary, many thanks for your reply, I hope you are keeping well.
    As you say Mary, that particular time was a bit of a mystery to us kids, we knew something was 'wrong' as we reached 4 or 5 years of age as spending nights in shelters was not 'normal'. You are quite right to say the fear was in 'the air', nobody said it but as kids, we could feel it ! An experiance but one we could well have done ... more >>

  • Re: D-DAY. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-May-2014
    Nice of you to put my remarks in your memory box Jim.. Thanks.. Were you evacuated Jim? The whole school "The Sacred Heart, Gorton. went , and I was with them , to Poynton, That alone makes interesting reading.

  • Re: D-DAY. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 10-May-2014
    Hello Mary, no, I was not evacuated. I believe that my mother turned down the idea as did the parents of my two close mates. We had many nights in the shelters during the 'blitz' period. Where abouts on Poynton were you moved to, I have worked around that area many times, I may know the location, did you ever re-visit later in life ?
    Pat and I are off to visit our daughter near York tomorrow so i... more >>

  • Re: D-DAY. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 10-May-2014
    I was in Higher Poynton Jim, in a lovely bungalow in Lostock Hall Road, I was only 6 but I had my twin for company, then later we went with friends evacuated in Brown edge Staffordshire. At the age of 9 I came from a big family so expect mum was glad of a rest from a couple of us, we have a lot of memories to look back on, but i am the one who has a good memory, and at 81 I still jog my twins memory about the past.

  • Re: D-DAY. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 10-May-2014
    Meant to say hope you and Pat have a good holiday, I'm off to Landzarote on the 19th for a week, feeling rather guilty as it is the first holiday after 60 odd years without my husband there, but been through hell these last four years, so everyone is telling me to enjoy.

  • Re: D-DAY. by sylvia morgan (Member 10224927) on 10-May-2014
    Hi Mary, nice to hear from you again,don't feel guilty,you did what was best for your husband all your lives together, and nothing can change that, so go to lanzarote and enjoy the the absolutely fabulous weather there at the moment, and plan next years holiday, you never know we may even come across each other in Spain, stranger things have happened. Sylvia x

  • Re: D-DAY. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 10-May-2014
    Thanks Sylvia,Things not going too well at the moment, but something has to keep me going keep thinking he is as lonely as me, but dementia doesn't work like that (I Hope )

  • Re: D-DAY. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-May-2014
    Morning Everyone,
    I just missed the war years (born 1947) and luckily lost no relatives in World War Two.
    However, having researched my Family Tree, I discovered that I lost a Great-Uncle on the Somme in 1917, and what saddened me the most was that nobody in the family mentioned it, and I remained in the dark until 1999.
    I learned that his wife was pregnant when he left for France and he never ... more >>

  • Re: D-DAY. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-May-2014
    Hi Mary, nice to hear from you, and I hope you are as well as can be expected.
    John. xx.

  • Re: D-DAY. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-May-2014
    Hello Mary, we were travelling on the same day as far as I can see. We were on our way back from Dunoon and you were off on a well deserved holiday in the sun....enjoy!
    Checked my past diaries and I have actually worked on Lostok Road in the distant past, the 'really'distant past! We have really enjoyed our eight days away seeing family and enjoying the scenery of north Yorkshire, good food and a... more >>

  • Re: D-DAY. by Louisa Hannam (Member 10291887) on 25-Jul-2014
    I was only 2 when the war started so don't recall a lot of it,my brother and sister were evacuated to Siddington on a farm and they loved itI was too young to go without my Mother,I remember my other brother who was in the Navy and was in the Battle of Crete 1941 his Ship ,HMSFiji being blown up ,he was lucky to be one of the survivors. He was pick up by the HMS Kandahar and taken to hospital in... more >>

  • Re: D-DAY. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Jul-2014
    I was six when war broke out, was evacuated with my school "The Sacred Heart," Gorton, we only went to Higher Poynton but I thought I had gone to the other side of the world at that tender age

  • Re: D-DAY. by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 18-Oct-2014
    Hi Mary, During the war you may have stayed at my Aunt and Uncle's home in Lostock Hall Road, Poynton.
    Their name was Henshaw. Always enjoyed visiting that wonderful house.

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Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lisa Beresford (Member 10292350) on 30-Apr-2014
Hi all. I have with interest read some stories regarding Joe and Carmel Murphy who had the Travellers Call on Hyde Rd. My dad is Michael McDermott who lived there with them. They were his aunt and uncle. My brother and I spent many happy times in there and grew up with Carmel as our Nana. I remember some good characters especially Fizzer (Tony Fitzgerald) who I was told lived in a bear barrel in... more >>   
  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Apr-2014
    I have very many happy childhood memories of Joe and Carmel at the Travs Lisa. It was our dads No 1 local and he had many. He took me in when I was a nipper and Joe put me in their parlour and kept me supplied with pop and crisps. A pub so full of characters the like of which will never be seen again. Did you meet John Thaw actor who lived across Hyde Road with his grandad and gran. Even when he w... more >>

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lisa Beresford (Member 10292350) on 30-Apr-2014
    Hi. Thanks for your reply. Yes, my dad talked often about John Thaw coming in the pub but for some reason Im sure he said they were his Aunty and Uncle! He said he was very theatrical at the time, i.e always wore a cravat. Ill check with him. :)

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Stuart parsonage (Member 10291244) on 1-May-2014
    Hi William, just for information.. I lived in Nut Street from 1946 until 1957 and have no knowledge of John Thaw living in Nut Street.

    In an article on BelleVue prison on the internet it states John Thaw lived in Stowell Street

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-May-2014
    Yes John Thaw did live in Stowell Street, I lived there too and remember it well. the gable end of my home in Forbes Street was in Stowell Street.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 1-May-2014
    I stand corrected and I thank you both for your participation. Hope you are well Mary, Still thinking of you.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 1-May-2014
    And still thinking of Vicky Sherry.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-May-2014
    Was that her name William? Sherry, Guess she was sweeter than wine to you,

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 3-May-2014
    Thanks Lisa Beresford for correct info on Joe & Carmel Murphy. I was sure they were both at my wedding, but maybe it was just Carmel. I'm William's younger sister and we are eager to know if Michael recalls our Dad Stan, and any funny stories from those days. Michael will be older than us, hope he is well and his memory is intact - we love the old stories.. Our Mum Win is still alive & well and... more >>

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lisa Beresford (Member 10292350) on 7-May-2014
    Hi Linda. My dad does remember you mum and dad and your brother Billy. He said your dad was a good friend of Bernard O'Connor and they were like a double act. Not only does he remember some funny stories about your dad he could write a book on them. He also remembers the stories your dad told him from when he was a prisoner of war but the ones about the Travellers you probably couldn't print! ... more >>

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lisa Beresford (Member 10292350) on 7-May-2014
    P.s. My dad thinks John Thaw lived on Nut Street!

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lisa Beresford (Member 10292350) on 7-May-2014
    P.s. My dad thinks John Thaw lived on Nut Street!

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 7-May-2014
    I remember Bernard, Lisa. Dad took me in the Travs many an afternoon and when the conversation turned fruity I was relegated to the Murphy's living room with lots of pop and crisps. One day they put me in the slammer and Bernard was fast asleep in an armchair, pissed out of his skull. They had painted a mustache and glasses on him with eyeshadow and when he woke up he couldn't understand why everyone was laughing.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 7-May-2014
    Ask your dad if he remembers Joe and Win Vernon who lived in Nut Street. They were very close friends of our parents and regulars in the Travs.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-May-2014
    Hi Everyone,
    I had two aunts living on the Prison Ground before the houses there were demolished.
    One lived at 60 Wren Street and the other in Stowell Street.
    My aunt always told me that John Thaw lived with his Grandad in Stowell Street, but his early life is always a bit of a mystery, especially the exact location of where he was born - (West Gorton or Longsight) and the only way to resolve t... more >>

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 13-May-2014
    Hi Lisa, not been on here for a few days. its great that your Dad remembers our Dad (Stan Briggs) so well, would love to hear some of his tales. Are you on Facebook Lisa? Is the Bernard you & Bill are discussing, Bernard Connor the bookie. If so our Dad was really good mates with him and his brother (Ken Connor - another bookie). Finally, was Michael related to Carmel or Joe, we cant remember.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by Lisa Beresford (Member 10292350) on 30-May-2014
    Hi Linda. Sorry, not been on a few days myself. Yes it is Bernard the Bookie but my dad thought his second name was O'Connor. My dad was related to Carmel. He was Carmels brothers son.

  • Re: Re:The Travellers Call Hyde Road West Gorton by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-May-2014
    Lisa. I am dying to hear some of your dads Travelers tales. That pub was full of characters. Please share. Billy.

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Patricia Caine by Jeepster (Member 10187810) on 29-Apr-2014
Don't know if anyone can help. I'm trying to trace Patricia Caine - sorry Trish - don't know your married name. I found our your mum passed away a good few years ago now and I wanted to get in touch. If anyone knows Patricia - she used to live in Sheffield Street, Gorton back in the days of slum clearance or ethnic cleansing as I prefer to call it as they destroyed loving communities in the early 1970's lol   
  • Re: Patricia Caine by Jeepster (Member 10187810) on 29-Apr-2014
    I should have said - my name is Barrie Wilkinson

  • Re: Patricia Caine by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Apr-2014
    Sorry mate, I have no knowledge of her, good luck.

  • Re: Patricia Caine by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 2-May-2014
    Hi Jeepster,

    Possibly Diane, Benji and the Emporer of Lancashire might be able to help you. They were discussing this street in 2006.

  • Re: Patricia Caine by Jeepster (Member 10187810) on 7-May-2014
    Thank you - do you know how I might find these guys to contact them?

  • Re: Patricia Caine by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 7-May-2014
    I think you might find them on some of the seedier notice boards like Soho and many more besides.
    Beware though if you are of a sensitive nature, their contributions can be pretty lurid.

  • Re: Patricia Caine by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 7-May-2014
    And distasteful.

  • Re: Patricia Caine by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 18-Oct-2014
    We had a Pat Caine living on my Sreet..Darley St. off Hyde Rd. Later became Dalmeny St. A few years ago I did manage to get in touch with a few of the street but not Pat. I did find Beryl O'Neil, Brenda Schofield, Len Molineaux and Anetta Marks.

  • Re: Patricia Caine by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 23-Oct-2014
    Hey Dennis, how yer doing. Have you been in touch with a ny of these people lately, if so, email me. Cheers!

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