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words by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 25-Nov-2014
The old words are disappearing fast aren't they?Do any of you still talk about(excuse my spelling) scriking your eyes out Being mard wearing keks carrying a gamp
There must be many others
  
  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Nov-2014
    Being "mythered" to death, always makes me smile.
    Someone being a "mard" arse is another.
    When did you last call someone a "cheeky sod"?

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    Glad you started this one Jean. Yesterday I heard someone say "Where's me Doobry".... haha we used to say that, now we both say 'Thingy' when we cant think of the right word - and that is so annoying.

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    And we were called "NESH" if we said we were cold.

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    And we wore a "Ganzy" instead of a cardi.

  • Re: words by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 26-Nov-2014
    I live near Southport and a suggested somebody was a "mard arse" only last week. Really wished i hadn't because the explanation to locals who didn't know the expression was difficult to say the least. The local equivalent is apparently " soft get" .

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 26-Nov-2014
    Well Dave, thats probably coz you're in Merseyside now. They'll call you 'Soft Lad' when you're mard there...

  • Re: words by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 27-Nov-2014
    what about "giveover" I expect that'd raise eyebrows where ever you live I wonder who first coined the phrase Or nowty come to that but then isn't nowty one of those strange words that needs no translation

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 29-Nov-2014
    And gone from the English Language is "I've just Brown-stoned the step".

  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    What about "blinding" - as in, "that was a blinding goal wasn't it?"

  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Dec-2014
    Another one is the word "bazzin(g)" as in phrases such as "that's a bazzin' bike you've got there", a word we used as kids to describe something really nice.

  • Re: words by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Dec-2014
    And the foul language of the day seems very tame by today's standard We knew that someone had reached the end of their tether and ran for cover when they said they were bleedin sick of something It sounded so threatening back then A far cry from the vulgar language of today

  • Re: words by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 21-Dec-2014
    Was anyone else told by their mother that they would get chin cough sitting on cold doorsteps or hot pipes at school.

  • Re: words by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Dec-2014
    Yeah we often got Chin-Cough. And Corned Beef legs if we sat too close to the open fire.

  • Re: words by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 22-Dec-2014
    I think Chin Cough was a polite word for piles, does anyone else have any suggestions

  • Re: words by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 22-Dec-2014
    I thought " Chin Cough" was a alternative name for " Influenza " I may be wrong it's over 60 years since I heard the saying.
    Malcolm B

  • Re: words by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Dec-2014
    Helen, I think you're right.
    My mother used to say that if we sit on the cold stone walls (outside the houses on Cambert Lane)we would get piles.
    Definitely the oddest mis-diagnosis I have ever heard of!

  • Re: words by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 24-Dec-2014
    John,

    I thinks our parents referred to sitting on the cold steps as wrongly giving us piles, " Chin Cough" was something completely different , just looked it up on Google and it refers to Chin Cough as a alternative name for Influenza which I recalled from years ago.
    regards
    Malcolm B

  • Re: words by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    All these years I have worried about cold doorsteps and hot pipes giving me chin cough when all the while it was influenza I was in danger of catching, well at least now I can sit on them without worrying thank god for the flu injection

  • Re: words by Malcolm Bond (Member 10298298) on 6-Jan-2015
    Hi Helen,
    Happy New Year, I hope you and Alf are keeping in good health.

    Helen I didn't refer to catching flu by sitting on cold doorsteps or hot pipes, I said that the alternative name for flu (as stated in the dictionary ) is chin cough, I only replied because your original enquiry asked if anyone had any suggestions to the meaning of chin cough, as you thought chin cough was another name f... more >>

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Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Nov-2014
Hi everyone , not been on for sometime, hope all is well with you.
I am doing some research on the old Bellevue prison( not at all suggesting that any of you remember it ).
Can you tell me what side of Hyde road was it on , it says on various sites that the main entrance was on Hyde road but I dont know what side it was on .
Was it on the same side as Bellevue zoo etc and what stands there now.... more >>
  
  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 17-Nov-2014
    Hi Julie, yes the prison was on the same side of Hyde Rd as the zoo. I have some maps showing the area before, during and after the prison was built. If you think back to how the area was in the 60's it's easy to visualise where it covered. It began at the cobbled passage opposite Birch St that lead into Nut St and all the way along Hyde Rd to Ashmore St. The main entrance into the prison is shown... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Nov-2014
    Julie,

    Regarding the position of Belle Vue Prison:
    First of all, you may hear that it was part of the Belle Vue Zoological Gardens site - it never was.
    It was completely seperate from Belle Vue's site, and was known variously as Hyde Road Prison, Gorton Gaol, Hyde Road Gaol and Belle Vue Prison.
    It was located on the south side of Hyde Road on a large plot of land adjacent to Belle Vue Zoolo... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Nov-2014
    Hi Paul,

    I heard that the Main Entrance was in fact on where Stowell Street would eventually be built.
    I have not seen all the available maps, but bow to your knowledge if I am incorrect on that.
    I understand that the area known later of Nut Street was actually INSIDE the Prison Walls, and the wall ran along Hunter's Lane to Hyde Road.
    It's a really interest... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Nov-2014
    Thankyou so much for that valued info.
    Ive learnt more in your responses than off the web itself.
    It was a huge prison it seems.
    Both the prison and the Zoo was running about the same time I believe, and that the inmates could hear the noises from the zoo.
    The prison was demolished hence Strangeways, but the zoo continued for a good while after .
    It really is of... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Nov-2014
    Julie/Paul,

    My apologies, but Paul has this spot on.
    The actual Prison wall ran from:
    The junction of Hyde Road where Nut Street was eventually built, down Hyde Road towards Manchester until it reached a point on Hyde Road where Ashmore Street was eventually built - NOT Stowell Street as I had thought.
    It went along what was to become Ashmore Street, the main Prison Entrance being halfway al... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 17-Nov-2014
    No problem John, I was only able to work from a rough old map anyway and as you say the old streets were not in place then. It was the photo of the Prison entrance shown on the Manchester Libraries images, that really gave me the idea the photo taker must have been stood on the ground which would have later became the Slack & Cox bottle yard.
    It must have been 1972/73 I went across to the churne... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Nov-2014
    Gosh Paul, do you think those bones were perhaps bones from the inmates?
    Thanks john and Paul, its a great subject.
    Julie

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 17-Nov-2014
    No Julie .... the bones were coming out of the Zoo. Bones from big animals .... Hippo's and Elephant's etc.

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-Nov-2014
    Paul,
    You've really stirred my memories with this.
    I had an Aunt and Uncle lived at 60 Lynn Street on the Prison Ground and another who lived on Ashmore Street - I remember the circular concrete Emergency Water Supply tank located on a patch of land at the end of Lynn Street, where it met Redgate Lane.
    In the 1950's, my late Grandparents were living at 50 Kirkmanshulme Lane - the houses are sti... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by julie (Member 10255407) on 18-Nov-2014
    Thats a lovely story John

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 19-Nov-2014
    The houses I referred to yesterday, on Kirkmanshulme Lane - set high up on a bank just after the railway bridge at Longsight Station and before Stockport Road - are still standing as they are owned by the Church of England and were managed by St John's Church on St John's Road, Longsight, off Stockport Road.
    I understand that the remaining houses on Cambert Lane - St James' View, opposite St Jame... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    Julie,
    If you go onto the Manchester Local Images Collection and punch in Cambert Lane, you will find a photograph of Victoria Road where it meets Cambert Lane.
    The gable-end of the terraced houses on Cambert Lane in that photograph are built of large black stones that were bought from the demolition contractors who knocked down Belle Vue Gaol, and were used to construct several terraces of hou... more >>

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    Julie,
    I must be losing it, I mentioned this in a post (above) dated 17th November 2014 - sorry!

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by Dennis Barker (Member 10296670) on 17-Jan-2015
    I have an 1895 map of Gorton which is most interesting as many of the streets we all know of are not on it. It shows the prison alongside the old Belle Vue speedway track. The area at the rear of Belle Vue was called Knutsford Vale.

  • Re: Bellevue Prison by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 17-Jan-2015
    Knutsford Vale is still there Dennis east of Kirkmanshulme Lane and north of Crowcroft Park. We called it Jacksons Claypit and rode our push bikes on the slag heaps.

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Message for Jim Whittaker by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 15-Nov-2014
Hello Jim I have sent you an e-mail
Best wishes Jean
  
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Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 7-Nov-2014
I'm sure that it wasn't only in Robert Street(but then that was the centre of my world) that great pride was taken by the women folk who down on their knees would fist scrub the front door step and then stone it to give a smart all over colour and woe betide the one who stepped on it! Then came the fashion of painting the bottom half of the front of the house with Red (help me out here someone) ?... more >>   
  • Re: Gorton talk by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 8-Nov-2014
    yes Jean we lived in Ashmore Street and we did the same, we called it red raddle. My job was to do the fire hob black every Wednesday when the fire was left to go out

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 9-Nov-2014
    What was red raddle then Ken and can YOU remember the smell and was it because of the cost do you think that it wasn't painted the whole way up? Do you remember when it all started I well remember neighbours up on their ladders and us kids watching in rapt attention... Happy days eh?
    I think your folk must have been very houseproud to blacken the back of the fire though!

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 10-Nov-2014
    Hello Jean & Ken, I believe Red Raddle was/is used on boats - so we may have used it for its waterproofing qualities. I'll have to ask Mum if we painted it on our bay.

  • Re: Gorton talk by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 11-Nov-2014
    Red raddle came in a tin and you put it on like a polish, we could not afford paint so we used that instead. We used a tin of black lead for our kitchen fire it had 2 ovens one on each side of the fire, the grate had 4 arms that you could put pans on to cook or boil water. The black lead once it dried was a dusty grey so we used a rag to polish it up and the fireplace gleamed. and no Jean we wer... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Nov-2014
    The "grate" in our back kitchen on Clowes Street had an oven on the right hand side of the main fire and a water tank (with a polished brass tap) on the left, and I can never really remember the main fire being allowed to go out, even in the summer.
    The "grate" had two "irons" for hanging pots on and a swing-out "trivet" usually for heating a "stew-pot" which was continually on the boil in the wi... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 12-Nov-2014
    Hello folks Yes the Kitchens were a hive of activity in our young days weren't they? Lots of elbow grease used and proper food cooked The clothes rack was a huge benefit for mam trying to dry washing in wet weather but I was/am blessed/afflicted with a powerful sense of smell and sometimes I thought washing dried in doors had a stale odour My elder sisters had the doubious "privilege" of goin... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 12-Nov-2014
    Hello folks Yes the Kitchens were a hive of activity in our young days weren't they? Lots of elbow grease used and proper food cooked The clothes rack was a huge benefit for mam trying to dry washing in wet weather but I was/am blessed/afflicted with a powerful sense of smell and sometimes I thought washing dried in doors had a stale odour My elder sisters had the doubious "privilege" of goin... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 13-Nov-2014
    Howdy Jean, I think the wash-house you mean was on Armitage Street, just behind Thomas St, I went with Mum a few times, pushing the washing in a trolley. Then they started opening Launderettes and it was blummin marvellous, we used one on Hyde Rd near Hornbys chippy - I think.

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 14-Nov-2014
    Ah yes, Armitage Street I had forgotten about it but that's the one Lynda Still I wasn't very far away was I?
    I suppose they had to take the prams because of the weight of the wet washing but a dead giveaway You could hardly say if asked where are you going?..Oh nowhere in particular! My eldest sister Nina(sadly no longer with us) was a bit of a snob It must have been agony for her to don a tu... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 14-Nov-2014
    just looking at what I had posted there and of course I meant Hyde Rd and the Apollo at Ardwick Green so..is that UP Hyde Rd or DOWN?

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 14-Nov-2014
    I dont remember Mum wearing a turban on a washing trip, she was always smart and nicely dressed. Gran on Clowes St had a mangle so she might have hand-washed all her stuff, she used to get me to put stuff thru that wringer, and catch the drips in a large basin underneath. I'll pass your kind message to Mum, its getting harder for her to recall things now, she'll be 92 in February. We also went t... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Dec-2014
    I always seem to remember that when we lived on Clowes Street in the 1950's, my Mother and my Grandmother were always very particular about the cleanliness of their "net" curtains in the windows that faced onto the main street. They didn't seem to be too worried about curtains in windows that faced onto the back yard though.

  • Re: Gorton talk by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 5-Dec-2014
    They must have loved the view of the back-yard John..................

  • Re: Gorton talk by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Dec-2014
    I remember our back-yard and the tricks we used to get up to there Lynda.
    Me and our kid used to go up into the back bedroom, open the sliding window, sit on the ledge and then jump onto the sloping toilet roof below.
    Imagine seeing your kids do that nowadays?
    You'd have a fit.
    I remember the dividing brick wall between our gran's house next door, and we climbed over it that much that eventual... more >>

  • Re: Gorton talk by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    I remember going to the wash house on Hyde Road next to the swimming baths with my mum when I was a child and then going for myself when I got married. Oh the joys of the scrubs, the machines for the whites, the big drying racks that pulled out of the wall and the ironing machines, big rollers that took whole sheets folded in half and the presses for trousers etc, I think I would go now if there w... more >>

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Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 17-Oct-2014
Have gathered from remarks on here and from what little bit I have seen on FB that there are Gortonians living all around the world or are travelling around it fairly often. Now, lets be hearing from you about the most unusual/exciting/frightening/beautiful places you have experianced, its not exactly Gorton talk but its Gorton people getting about, so lets hear it, keep this site going, regardles... more >>   
  • Re: Travels! by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 18-Oct-2014
    Having served in the Army I was sent to Muscat and Oman in the 1970s, we acted as the training team for the Sultans Army. Attached to an RAF Camp we lived in the Desert, part of my role was to patrol along the Jebel a mountain range on the Yemen border. The base camp was um el Guaraf this was an oasis in the Salalah area I made lots of friend there some from a company laying tarmac roads through... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 19-Oct-2014
    Late 1960's we were living in northern Uganda and a short distance away was Chobi National Park which was part of the huge Murchison Falls Park. One Sunday we were all in the Chobi park chugging along the River Track alongside the Nile. On the lookout for wildlife we came across a lone buffalo which was not happy at us being there! Following the rules we just drove slowly past this beast and conti... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Oct-2014
    Jim, you sure like living on the edge, and youve got some great tales to tell. I cant possibly contribute to this thread, the scariest thing I did was last week trying to climb those spiral stone steps to the top of Conwy Castle despite my dodgy hips and shoulder...

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Oct-2014
    Oh and the other scary thing I did was to let my big bro Billy fly me over Swansea in a 4-seater plane - now that was SCARY...

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 21-Oct-2014
    Travelling back from M/c to Moray after attending the funeral of my favourite uncle in the 1970's I decided to follow the route over the Dava Moor just north of Aviemore instead of sticking to the main roads To my horror I got caught out in a sudden snowstorm The windscreen wipers could barely cope but because I could just make out a set of tyre tracks in front decided to continue I soon found my... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 21-Oct-2014
    Brilliant true scary story Jean, clever you getting out of it alive, it could have been so much worse.

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 21-Oct-2014
    Aye well Lynda I have climbed the Conway Castle spiral steps...but you wouldn't get me in a four seater plane! Very brave

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Oct-2014
    1966, spent the whole year living in Israel.
    I travelled from Haifa, south and east through the desert (as it was then, not so now) by Army Truck overnight, without any sleep at all.
    About 4:00am we saw our first glimpse of Jerusalem from about three miles away, just as the sun came up.
    The city, surrounded as it is by limestone walls, turned pink in the morning sun, and was a sight I shall nev... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Oct-2014
    In 1966 I had a weekend in New Brighton. It rained.

  • Re: Travels! by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 23-Oct-2014
    I was first married in 1965. I wish it had rained, i would not have turned up.

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 24-Oct-2014
    John, your 1966, thats the stuff memories are made of, a fantastic sunrise, one to treasure.
    We have one as well for 1966, we flew out of Gatwick on 1-1-1966 bound for Uganda and experianced our first African sunrise as we flew over Lake Victoria on our approach to Entebbe airport. Have seen many beautiful sunrises and sunsets ( a lot of them here in Scotland!) but there is always one that sticks... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 25-Oct-2014
    Holidaying in the far east in my fiftieth year Having checked into the hotel I returned to reception across the vast foyer standing as tall as I could I gave an Oscar winning performance gliding across to a fortyish female...
    Giving me no chance to say anything she said "Ah Madam I bet you beautiful when young"..and whist I was still spluttering and adding insult to the back handed compli... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 25-Oct-2014
    Great stuff Jean, lovely story, where were you??
    A couple more from me tomorrow, keep them coming folks, you have all got a book in you somewhere!
    Regards. Jim.

  • Re: Travels! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 25-Oct-2014
    Fort Lauderdale Fla about ten years ago. We got lost and pulled over into a boozer for refreshments and directions but the barman was no help. A customer asked me which part of Manchester I was from so I told him Gorton. He said he was from Denton and after comparing notes it turned out he went to Ryder Brow school with my little sister.

  • Re: Travels! by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 25-Oct-2014
    Who was that then Billy????

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 26-Oct-2014
    Good morning Jim We were in Singapore and Thailand My little story took place in Bangkok Did you all remember to put back the clocks?

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 26-Oct-2014
    Forgot to say I loved your story about Jerusalem John..H (just in case John..C is watching)It would be one of those moments to really cherish Lucky you

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 26-Oct-2014
    Morning to you Jean, yes, the clocks went back albeit this morning!
    Re:Travels, the 'unusual'!
    About 15 miles north of where we lived in Uganda was a leprosarium where the people inflicted with the illness were treated. A young German guy worked there as a 'dresser'. He was invited to all the parties etc and so decided that he would have a party and a whole crowd of us were invited to the event.... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 26-Oct-2014
    Pat has just reminded me, 1985 and we were both stood in the middle of the living room in our Lae, Papua New Guinea house. Louvre windows closed and ceiling fan going full blast as we gasped for breath and the tears rolled down our cheeks! In the street outside, 10 yards away, the police were battling a gang of rioters with lots of tear gas and big sticks! Happy Days!

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 28-Oct-2014
    hello again Jim So the Gorton kid has travelled far eh? Interesting stories though.. maybe you should write them down
    Our Daughter Elise (47) made a gift to me of a beautifully bound writing book to record my life story which I think is a good idea I wish I had asked my Grandma to do the same. Its living history isn't it? Our children have never seen an outside toilet for instance and the ide... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Oct-2014
    Regarding my year living in Israel (1966) I had quite a few of those "where were you when" moments.
    On 6th May 1966 I was working at Kibbutz Kfar Hanassi under the Golan Heights in Northern Israel when I heard that Myra Hindley and Ian Brady had been convicted of the Moors Murders at Chester Assizes.
    Coming from West Gorton, that really hit home, as it did for many Gorton folk.
    On 12th August t... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 30-Oct-2014
    Fascinating posting John What were you doing there

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 31-Oct-2014
    Jean,
    I was on an exchange visit with Israeli Police Officers who came to the UK to learn training methods and vice versa.
    After three months at Tel Aviv Barracks, during which I visited all the places I had ever heard of, I opted to stay on and do voluntary work for VSO (Voluntary Service Overseas) as part of my Duke of Edinburgh's Gold Award.
    I had to forfeit my salary, but earned money driv... more >>

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 1-Nov-2014
    That would have been a priceless experience John I am impressed In December of 1966 I had my first baby then another 18 months later so my focus was nappy centred!!!

  • Re: Travels! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Nov-2014
    Hi Jean, children are the be-all and end-all for me.
    I have thirteen grandchildren at the moment.
    It's hard getting to see them all enough (two are in the USA), but they are all that matters.

  • Re: Travels! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 5-Nov-2014
    Then we sing from the same hymn sheet John We have six grandchildren and one great grandchild! They are all my treasure Fortunately we see quite a lot of them still You know what they are like as they get older MY CUP OVERFLOWS

  • Re: Travels! by Helen Simpson (Member 10292267) on 4-Jan-2015
    I have visited some lovely places over the past 50 years, Spain, Greece, Malta, North Africa and also lived in Australia for 3 years, but I still remember my first holiday in the sun in Spain on the Costa de Almeria in a little village next to the sea called Aqua Amarga, sunshine everyday, blue sky, warm nights, cheap wine, fantastic food and lovely people although they didn't speak English we got... more >>

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The 'Wall of Death' !! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 11-Oct-2014
Saw a bit somewhere on the TV last week about the motor bike 'Wall of Death' show and I think that it was done at Belle Vue many years ago ? I was a very young kid at the time and was amazed at how those guys stayed on the wall. Anybody out there know any of the guys who rode that 'wall'?. Do you remember the lion act that always came on last during the Circus shows at Belle Vue, we kids sat spell... more >>   
  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 12-Oct-2014
    I well remember seeing the big colourful billboards advertising their death defying stunts In a giant wooden bowl Jim and I would have paid more attention if I thought someone in the future would ask me to name them Ha Ha!!

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 12-Oct-2014
    Sorry Jim but this is about teenage sexual awakening. I worked on the Hoop La stall just opposite the wall of death and a large, scantily clad lady called Vicky Sherry would tempt the punters in and she rode as a passenger on the wall.
    Unrequited love but it got me into motorbikes.

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 15-Oct-2014
    Whilst we are 'in' Belle Vue can anybody out there remember the huge skull that use to be on show in the elephant house ? I heard a story in those days that there had been a fight between a couple of the elephants and a young one had been killed or put down as a result of its injuries ?
    Plus, does anybody know when the last fireworks display was held in Belle Vue ?
    Lovely autumn weather here fol... more >>

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by stuart mcintyre (Member 10296593) on 15-Oct-2014
    the scull in the elephant house was that of a mother rhino kill by her son

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by Robert (Bob) Moore (Member 10099906) on 17-Dec-2014
    You are right Stewart, I remember that skull, with a big hole in once side where the horn had gone in

  • Re: The 'Wall of Death' !! by Robert (Bob) Moore (Member 10099906) on 17-Dec-2014
    Sorry, that should be Stuart

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Spurgeon Street off William Street, West Gorton, M/cr 12. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
I am trying to locate a couple of families who lived in Spurgeon Street - which was a Play Street running directly off William (Hoyland) Street - as their children went to St Marks'School between 1952 and 1959:
The families were the BURKES and the MOTTERSHEADS.
Bernard Burke and Sally Mottershead were in my class between those years.
I heard Bernard may well be a taxi-driver in Manchester, but ... more >>
  
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John CARLTON by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
I personally miss the banter with, and the humour of, John Carlton on this site.
We can ill-afford to lose from Knowhere Gorton people with the host of memories John possesses.
Come back Big Fella.
  
  • Re: John CARLTON by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    Waste of time John. JC has spat his dummy out.

  • Re: John CARLTON by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    Teddy is out of the pram.

  • Re: John CARLTON by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    I hope he does a Terminator - "I'll be back".

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Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Sep-2014
I was in Gorton and found near enough where I was born (80 Robert Street) and was lucky enough to find a local lady who had been living at her "abbotsbury walk" address for 40 years she had been born in ardwick so knew the area even before she moved there She said her house was on what used to be Margaret street There was building going on and she told me it was the site of St marks school (This w... more >>   
  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 29-Sep-2014
    Fantastic Jean. I have a photo I took earlier this year of Tony McMunn standing outside where his corner shop once stood right opposite your old house. I can't remember if you are on facebook but if you are I will send you the pickie.

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Sep-2014
    That would be fine Billy Thank you I do remember seeing it somewhere it would be good to compare features Particularly there is a building still standing on what was old Clowes St
    and it looks as if it was facing Margaret St or maybe one street further away
    I was told that it was a works depot Maybe you remember?

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
    Hi Jean,
    I was looking at that building-site three weeks ago, and they are correct, in that it was previously occupied by St Marks' Infants and Primary School.
    However, this is NOT the site of the original St Marks' Infants and Primary Schools which formerly stood between Robert Street and William Street, West Gorton, and which were demolished in the late 1960's.
    The actual location of the firs... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 30-Sep-2014
    Hi John I did not know about the 2nd St marks But curiously enough I felt "instinctively" that it was just a little too far over and that Hoyland Close was about right but not quite close enough to old Clowes St But all in all I must have wandered over the spot... I got Vibes this time!!! What a pity we were there at different times It would have been so lovely to have exchanged memories Thanks ... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    I have visited that area many times in the last couple of years Jean with JH and Tony McMunn and others. Sure you have seen some of the pickies. I wish our Lynda would get her arse in gear and meet me there in the tank back one day. We could stand there holding hands and I know she would be reduced to tears and probably me too.
    I can feel the memories and see them too. Like an electromagnetic fie... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 30-Sep-2014
    No Billy Not to me I can't tell you how much It meant to me to go "Home"

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Oct-2014
    Jean,
    Bill and Lynda have a real feel for the "old ground" in West Gorton, and can pin-point any former West Gorton sites - worth a meeting I can assure you.
    John.

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Oct-2014
    thanks again John hello all
    I am keen to know what the building(visible on the photo of tony McMunn's visit) still standing on what would have been old clowes street was/is

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 2-Oct-2014
    Hi there Jean, lovely story that, especially your treasure trove from Robert Street. Ive often wondered what might have been left under our house when they demolished it. Glad you found your roots Jean :-)

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Oct-2014
    Good morning Lynda Greetings from a sunny Scotland( well at the moment) My husband spends most of his time on the golf course Tues and Thurs we spend together and are about to go out so here's a quick response..
    I always envy people who have strong ties to each other Like tribal communities with their strange cultures
    What they have is ROOTS anchoring them to one place, one people That might... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 2-Oct-2014
    Good morning Lynda Greetings from a sunny Scotland( well at the moment) My husband spends most of his time on the golf course Tues and Thurs we spend together and are about to go out so here's a quick response..
    I always envy people who have strong ties to each other Like tribal communities with their strange cultures
    What they have is ROOTS anchoring them to one place, one people That might... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    @ Jean and Lynda,
    Wouldn't it be great to see Time Team excavate the old West Gorton area and discovering the cellars with the wash-house boiler and copper and the old coal-holes?
    I remember when Clowes Street was demolished, they just pulled the walls and roofs down and bulldozed the lot into the cellars.
    John H.

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 7-Oct-2014
    hi John
    I was intrigued to hear how the demolition was carried out on the old Clowes Street houses I would love to be in on a Time Team excavation but better still.. I would love a time machine!

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 7-Oct-2014
    Hello Jean, pleased that your Gorton safari was more productive than my rather short wander around.
    I couldn't agree more with your comments about tribes and their cultures. Pat and I had the wonderful experiance of working/living/mixing with the wonderful peoples of Papua New Guinea for 12 years! We met some amazing characters as we were moved around the country and islands to work in Technical ... more >>

  • Re: Jean Mclaren again by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 8-Oct-2014
    Greetings from Moray Jim
    It sounds as if you have had an interesting life
    I am glad you understood my sentiment about roots
    when left Gorton all those years ago part of me stayed behind!!
    Yes we too got hammered again What a deluge
    Hope to get through to Inverness befor... more >>

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Imbecile by S. Tringer (Member 10296075) on 26-Sep-2014
That's right John   
  • Re: Imbecile by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 26-Sep-2014
    ?????

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Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 21-Sep-2014
What a fantastic day we had yesterday with little Johnnie Finn and our beloved teacher Mr Parry at Edale. He is still the same charming person he was at Nicholls in the 60s. Kept referring to us as his boys. Next time we won't let him buy lunch for us. I have tried to find you on facebook but drawn a blank so if you can find me please send a friends request.
Your old pal Billy.
  
  • Re: Phil Orme by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    Sounds like a nice day Bill.
    I have been totally unlucky tracing any of the teachers from my senior school days, but it would be nice to speak with them about the "old days".

  • Re: Phil Orme by philip orme (Member 10262543) on 22-Sep-2014
    hi billy will try and find you on facebook/

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    John
    Our wonderful Mr Parry was was our form master for four years at Nicholls and guided us from being snot nosed kids to a smart group of young men. We became a family in that period thanks to our Welsh Wizard.
    He is the same age as my mam ( 91 ) and as sharp as a razor though unsteady on his pins. He told us hilarious stories of the infighting amongst members of staff and the schoolboy pranks... more >>

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    PS Phil Orme and I are now facebook friends. Us Gortonians really are a special breed.

  • Re: Phil Orme by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Sep-2014
    Hi Bill, lovely to hear you had a successful weekend with your old teacher Mr Parry. Not many of us could do that.

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    I am truly honored and a fortunate Gorton skally.

  • Re: Phil Orme by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
    Yes you are, and what a sharpshooter - St Marks' bell never recovered Bill.

  • Re: Phil Orme by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 30-Sep-2014
    I could have been one of the last people to ring St Marks Church bell. With my dads 177 Webley Junior slug gun. I never missed.

  • Re: Phil Orme by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    I'm sure you must have been Bill.
    It was sad to see the old church where my late Mum and Dad were married demolished, criminal.

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Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-Sep-2014
Just seen on the news that today is the 70th. Anniversary of the parachute drop at Arnham in the second world war. I was obviously only a child when this happened but in later years I learned that I had actually worked with one of those guys when serving my 'time' as a painter. He was a quiet, tall bloke who only spoke when it was needed, he always had a 'drop' on his nose and we young apprentices... more >>   
  • Re: Anniversaries. by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Sep-2014
    They didnt talk about these things did they, our Dad only talked with me about war stuff in his last weeks. They were heroes. By the way Jim, have you posted anything on GortonM18 yet?

  • Re: Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-Sep-2014
    Hello Lynda, had a look on FB but not done anything as yet, wouldn't know where to start to put photos on, will need some help eventually.
    Have so many things on the go, FB is just an extra one to do! As it gets later in the year and theres less to do outside I shall have more time to concentrate on this new project. The nights are darker by 8pm. now and dawn is later,no more sunlight at 3-30am (... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    What about those fresh winter winds Jim?
    I seem to recall that one of the priorities for a friend of mine on Stornaway was keeping the roof on during the winter.
    I remember him telling me about using ropes and heavy stones as weights stretched over the roof to hold it down.
    Now THAT sounds like a priority to me mate.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 23-Sep-2014
    Morning John, as it turns out we have had a local weather warning for the coming winter---- snow and 'boistrous' winds! Roof contruction in Scotland is very strong and we have never had to resort to tying the roof down--as yet!. A few stones put in the plastic gutters to keep them in place during the winds and the older 'out-buildings' which have asbestos sheets on top can be seen with heavy stone... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 23-Sep-2014
    Jim, John....my great grandfather lived on Achill Island off the coast of Mayo, Eire. he was a fisher man, well to be more correct he used to go out into the Atlantic in rowing boat maybe a Coricle ) to spear basking sharks, bring them back to land for the oil, etc, etc.
    They had old discarded fishing nets thrown over their roofs ( thatched or turf ) with rocks tied to the ends to weigh the nets... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Sep-2014
    Hi John C, your mention of Achill Island reminds me that my old friend lives at Newport, Co Mayo, at the end of a lovely track and facing the bay with it's islands.
    Last saw him ten years ago, and I need to go there again.
    One of the most beautiful parts of the country.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Sep-2014
    Hi Jim, my old friend was from Carloway in the Outer Hebrides, Isle of Lewis, and although we worked together in Manchester for years, I never got there.
    I remember the day his mother got a phone fitted at their cottage, in the early 1970's, and he rang her from the office.
    She was a pure Gaelic speaker, as was he, and it was fascinating to hear the conversation.
    It was he that used to tell me ... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 26-Sep-2014
    I have visited the lovely village of Clifden in County Galway on my motorbike many times or it could be in Connemara. Wonderful friendly people and great food and Guinness. Alcock and Brown crash landed there in the first transatlantic flight.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Sep-2014
    Bill,
    I visited there five years ago, after a huge storm in Connemara National Park, I arrived and found the little museum with the old photographs of Alcock and Brown's airplane crashed into the bog just outside the village.
    Lovely memories for me because Brown was an old boy of my school, Central Grammar, and he was mentioned to all new kids like me in 1959.
    Beautiful part of Ireland.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Sep-2014
    Thought it was Sammy Davies Jnr, that landed there first..........wait for it....he's Alcock & Brown....haha

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    Not very funny!

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Sep-2014
    Lighten up Kate....it was said in jest.....you will not tell me what to put on here....that I mean.!!!

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 28-Sep-2014
    I wouldn't dream of it but presumably you are a grown up man and not some stupid kid?

  • Re: Anniversaries. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 28-Sep-2014
    SLOW DOWN GUYS ! We do not need this agro on this message board. There are plenty of 'rants' on other sites and on FB., lets keep it off the Gorton site , its too good for that sort of rubbish!... Jim.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Sep-2014
    Thanks Jim, but "Kate Knowitall" has had another bitch at me, think she has had a sense of humour failure Again...must be an age thing, silly bitch.
    No wonder this board is getting stuffy with people like her watching every thing people say. Gorton Message Board you have just lost another reader.... heads up people the sense of humour police are watching you. bye its been a blast. I know for cer... more >>

  • Re: Anniversaries. by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 28-Sep-2014
    Lets keep our eye on the ball brothers and sisters. We all know who the real enemies are. Please don't abandon this great site John. Billy Whizz will miss you.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Sep-2014
    Me too Big John.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 29-Sep-2014
    And though I've only read your postings John I will too

  • Re: Anniversaries. by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 2-Oct-2014
    Me too JC, met you twice now and you're a smashing fella, and so is the boss (Angie) haha.

  • Re: Anniversaries. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Oct-2014
    It's not the same without 'The Big Fella' is it?
    Hope he makes a triumphant return soon, I miss him.

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Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 19-Sep-2014
Well, what can I say?
This site has stagnated and it is not because of people defecting. Most of the names on this page are also on FB. I have had years of pleasure and found friends old and new thanks to "Gorton Message Board." So many memories relived. The silent majority ( if there is one ) need to start contributing or the spammers and trolls will take it over. Don't believe me? Check out any... more >>
  
  • Re: Facebook by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 19-Sep-2014
    ellway aidsay illybay, well said.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 19-Sep-2014
    Allohay arymay ymay arlingday. Did I get it ightray.

  • Re: Facebook by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 20-Sep-2014
    Yes you are right Billy as you always are....Did any body manage to get Mr. Goldthorpe AKA the Memory man on board ??? he could be a great benefit to this site......answering and asking questions about OUR beloved Gorton, come on guys this could be our hour of need.....get canvassing for new blood. Thank you.

  • Re: Facebook by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 20-Sep-2014
    I must apologise as I log on to this site most days just to see if anyone I know has been on I know Mr Holmes through his cousin but cannot remember any of the others. I think Mr Whittaker may have known my sister Elsie and I remember a Nobby Clarke. He was at school with my brother Eric and went into the Harrington and Palm Court pubs. I know Johnie King from the Monastry as we played football... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Anne Irving (Member 10289876) on 20-Sep-2014
    Well said Bill. It would be a shame if this site went down. I have really enjoyed the comments on here, also your brilliant poems. I think some people are on several sites, and sometimes its hard to keep up with them all.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 20-Sep-2014
    I only met the memory man once John in the Waggon last year. I don't think he has a PC.

  • Re: Facebook by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 20-Sep-2014
    Hi Ken ,I agree with you entirely, it can be difficult to introduce new'topics' of general interest to the Gorton Mesage Board, like you, I have a look most days. There are very few people from my part of Gorton on here, John Holmes is one but we never 'clicked' during that time but, as Billy says, we must keep the site busy and not become a target!Ken, I did know an Elsie but she was Elsie Partri... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Sep-2014
    Hi everyone, glad we're all looking in here now and again. Unfortunately now most of us are on Facebook, the old photos draw you in and you get sidetracked easily - which is a shame for those who are NOT on F/B. Our old brains only store so much information and sometimes you feel like you've mentioned everything, then someone comes up with a snippet that you can answer or join in with. Those are... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Ken Frost (Member 10254048) on 21-Sep-2014
    Hi Jim
    My mother was a whittaker her father was from Middleton/Hadfield we have don the family tree so email me on Norkenf@aol.com and I will send you a copy of our family tree it goes back to 1660
    Ken

  • Re: Facebook by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 21-Sep-2014
    Ken, many thanks, email on the way, looking forward to this as it sounds like the right area for my G/father !! Jim.

  • Re: Facebook by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    Hello everyone, I agree with the comments here, especially where Lynda says that the attraction of being able to post photographs on other sites is a great attraction, and it's sometimes a bit disheartening on this site when you post a message or make a comment which remains unanswered for weeks and sometimes months.
    However, I can understand that, as we all lead busy lives, though we like to thi... more >>

  • Re: Facebook by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Sep-2014
    Geoff Goldthorpe was in the Waggon & Horses the day we first met up in April 2013. Its his local pub, so anyone going in, just ask the landlord if he's there - he's a mine of information, but he wasnt on the internet at that time. He's about 64 and went to Ryder Brow School, seems to know everyone.

  • Re: Facebook by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 22-Sep-2014
    I was his brothers mate ( Steve ) for a while, we lived on Whittaker St. Last time I saw Steve was in The Clock Face , was telling Billy Briggs about the last meeting in there it was like a seen from a cowboy movie, haha chairs flying through the air, bodies every where.. women, men and bouncers all fighting........haha

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    I think I was there that night John. There again it could have been any Saturday night.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    Any pub in Gorton.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 22-Sep-2014
    Just realised that the Clock Face was in Beswick but the same rules apply.

  • Re: Facebook by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Sep-2014
    Hi Bill, I have a feeling it was near where the Etihad Stadium is now, but it has been demolished for years now.
    Beswick was literally awash with pubs in the 1970's.

  • Re: Facebook by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 26-Sep-2014
    The clock face was on Ashton Old Road opposite Gorton Road John. It was one of my regular watering holes. Chesters House.

  • Re: Facebook by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Sep-2014
    Hi Bill, yes I remember it now you have pinpointed it, I remember it as being a big handsome building.
    Another lovely building consigned to the skip!

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Death of Sandy BUSBY by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Sep-2014
Sandy Busby, the son of the late Sir Matt Busby died last night (Monday 15th September 2014).
Never as enigmatic as his Dad, he was nevertheless a devoted supporter of Manchester United and an asset to it's financial management over a number of years prior to the Glazer's aquisition - RIP.
  
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Mr Parry by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 6-Sep-2014
If any of our members attended Nicholls School Ardwick in the early 60s and remembers our fantastic maths and rugby teacher, the Welsh wizard Mr Parry, you may be interested to know that he is alive and well and lives in Edale in Derbyshire. Well a fortnight tomorrow a small group of old boys are going there to buy him a pint and I for one will be giving him some souvenier photos of his lads from ... more >>   
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A few things! by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 6-Sep-2014
Hello Billy Briggs. Will contact you next week about getting into M/c 18 on FB, have had a look and will give it a go, will be in touch!
John Holmes, During your time living on Church Lane did you ever know the Turner family who lived on Church Lane at thec corner of Belper Street, I think the lad was called Harry but could be wrong about that. Wasn't there a 'chippy' just past the 'entry' on Bel... more >>
  
  • Re: A few things! by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 6-Sep-2014
    Good lad Jim. Soon as you join FB let me know and I will propose you on M18. You have my email address. I can recommend other sites which I am sure will interest you.

  • Re: A few things! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Sep-2014
    Jim,
    I remember the Turner family, as I recall they played on the Red Rec at Casson Street with me and our kid plus others.
    I lost track of them later on in the mid 1960's, and never saw the family again.
    You are right about the chippy Jim, but for some reason we always went to the chippy on Engell Street, a bit further up Cambert Lane .
    Not sure about the barber's though, we used Bob "Snatch"... more >>

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My own safari by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 26-Aug-2014
Maybe I need my head testing but because the last two attempts to stand on the spot where I was born were failures I have unfinished business in Gorton!
So Billy and I are going to M/c next monday 1st Sept for a week That is not the sole reason of course, my sister Renee moved house in April and I told her we would go back and see her settled in
If by the remotest chance any of you were free it... more >>
  
  • Re: My own safari by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 28-Aug-2014
    Hi Jean and Billy. We hope your trip to M/c goes well and it would be great to fix up a meeting when you get back. We do visit Inverness every now and then, Pat can then mount an 'attack' on M&S etc.! We usually travel by either bus (free!) or train (cheap!). We are usually there from about 10-30am until approx 6pm. for the train. No doubt there would be much of mutual interest to natter about, on... more >>

  • Re: My own safari by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 28-Aug-2014
    I shall look forward to that Jim Every good wish to you both
    Jean

  • Re: My own safari by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 28-Aug-2014
    email sent Jim.

  • Re: My own safari by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 29-Aug-2014
    hello Billy Briggs - no email received!

  • Re: My own safari by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 29-Aug-2014
    Tried again Jim.

  • Re: My own safari by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 29-Aug-2014
    Billy Briggs---- got it, will give the idea some thought. Cheers J.

  • Re: My own safari by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 29-Aug-2014
    Case anyone was wondering, it was photos. Can't send them on here.

  • Re: My own safari by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Sep-2014
    Hi Jean, where was this "spot" you were born, Billy Briggs has a good knowledge of the area, he should be able to help you pinpoint it.

  • Re: My own safari by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 20-Sep-2014
    Hi John H - Bill will know where Jean's house was. When you found the location of Tony McMunn's shop on Robert Street the other week, Jean's house would be a few yards to the East, she lived on the 'evens' side.

  • Re: My own safari by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Sep-2014
    Thanks Lynda, x.

  • Re: My own safari by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 22-Sep-2014
    Jean said she lived at No. 80, next door to Paul & Geoff Beard, close to Watson Street. (Your school playground looked up Watson Street) McMunns shop on Robert Street was No.75 I think.

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My own safari by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 26-Aug-2014
Maybe I need my head testing but because the last two attempts to stand on the spot where I was born were failures I have unfinished business in Gorton!
So Billy and I are going to M/c next monday 1st Sept for a week That is not the sole reason of course, my sister Renee moved house in April and I told her we would go back and see her settled in
If by the remotest chance any of you were free it... more >>
  
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North east Scotland. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 23-Aug-2014
Hi Jean. I see from one of your messages that you live in the north east of Scotland. So do we!
I did mention it when I entered my message at the end of the 'visiting' section but its a long way down the scroll now.
We are 5 miles south of Wick, off the A99 in a tiny place called Sarclet. We missed the wild weather of last week as we enjoyed the sunshine of Manchester. Been up here for almost ei... more >>
  
  • Re: North east Scotland. by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 23-Aug-2014
    Come on Jim. Give us a report on your Manchester trip.

  • Re: North east Scotland. by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 24-Aug-2014
    Not that much to report Billy. Had a couple of hours in Gorton. Had a look at what used to be Peacock Street School, wandered across the park that used to be the 'rec', not as much litter as I was expecting! Tried to find my old street but no luck there, might have been close but no way of knowing. I did not enjoy the time, its so different. lots of gardens about the place. I said 'how do' to a fe... more >>

  • Re: North east Scotland. by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 25-Aug-2014
    Good morning folks
    Jim you are a fair bit further north than me then I live on the Moray Firth in a small fishing village and have been here for 49 years I have witnessed great changes in that time However I have stayed loyal to my M/c roots visiting almost every year driving down sometimes on my own with my two little ones on the back seat and that was on old roads there has been huge improvem... more >>

  • Re: North east Scotland. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2014
    Hi Jim,
    Glad you got a visit in to the Gorton area, like you say, lots of changes eh?
    I still get down to Clowes Street, West Gorton, but almost all cleared now, with some new houses built.
    I have a walk around Cambert Lane, Gorton too, and the saddest thing I see is the state of Hyde Road.
    When you consider its one of the main arterial roads in and out of the City, it's a real disgrace.
    Kind... more >>

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West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Alan Clarke (Member 10295242) on 23-Aug-2014
I lived in Margaret Street until 1960 with my sister Marilyn, Mum Marjorie and Dad Eric. Went to Thomas Street Primary and then on to Openshaw Tech. Would like to make contact with any friends, schoolmates or neighbours who remember our family.   
  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 23-Aug-2014
    Hello Alan, welcome to the site. What years were you at Thomas St school, my bro & I both went there too, lived on Robert Street. Can you recall any kids names, we may have known you.

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Alan Clarke (Member 10295242) on 24-Aug-2014
    Hi!
    I was at Thomas street from 55 - 60 and as for names I don`t remember many. Had a crush on a girl called Avril Bradley but that's about it. If you prompt me it may refresh the old grey matter!!
    Thanks for your response.

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 24-Aug-2014
    Alan. Lynda left Tommo in 1960 and I left in 59. We both have class photos and if you are on facebook we could send them to you or you could post your e mail on here.

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 24-Aug-2014
    Hi Alan, I was at Tommo Nursery 1954 - 1961. Started Ryder Brow Sept 1961. Do you know Dave Wright, maybe same age as you, he went from Tommo to O/Tech around same time as you. (Dave's on this site). Lads in my class were Brian Farrell, David Duckworth, Brian Lawrence (from Margaret Street), Graham Fielding (from the newsagents near Margaret St/Clowes St I think), Jimmy Woodcock, Brian Towler, and there's more.

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Alan Clarke (Member 10295242) on 25-Aug-2014
    Any class photos would be great alanwaterloo@gmail.com
    Many Thanks.

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Lynda B (Member 10277391) on 25-Aug-2014
    Hi Alan, you dont need to join Facebook to see all our photos. Can I suggest you take a look at 2 sites. One is Gorton M18 and the other is Wenlock Way Primary school. Click PHOTOS near the top of the F/B site page. If you like what you see, you could always sign up and join in the fun. Did you recognise any of the names I posted??

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by William Briggs (Member 10267694) on 25-Aug-2014
    email sent.

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Jean McLaren (Member 10294811) on 25-Aug-2014
    Hi Alan
    I only have one name for you: Jennifer Johnson she lived in Margaret Street and was my older sister Ann's friend She would be coming up for seventy now She had very unusual colouring as most blondes have blue eyes hers were brown and her hair was a strong blonde and very thick which she wore in plaits She lived on the left looking towards Hyde Road just before the bend

  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2014
    Hi Alan,
    I wonder if you knew our kid, Christopher (Chris) Holmes, who was at Openshaw Tech (from St Marks') between 1961(2) to 1966(7).
    He lived with us at 126 Clowes Street, right next door to St Marks's Church, in a house between William (Hoyland) Street and Elizabeth Street.
    Just to help with the location, our house was a former Tripe Shop that stood next to the Beswick
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  • Re: West Gorton 1949 - 1960 by Elle sherwood (Member 10299192) on 14-Feb-2015
    do you remember the family who lived there when it was a tripe shop by any chance? as I think it might have been my dads sister

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