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Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
Do you remember when it was usual to hear a crowd coming out of the pub singing as they walked home at night? and us kids knew they had had a good night, not like these days when a good night out is when they have had a good scrap, was there something in the drink or what? being a tee totaler myself, I can't understand the change of it all, have people gone more unfriendly?   
  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    Hi Mary. They're not man enough to let people see they might be happy, so they hide behind booze to indulge in violent behaviour, which they think makes them look bigger than they actually are. In the sober light of day, many wouldn't say boo to a goose, especially if they're on their own. They're actually pathetic in real life.

    Like all the rudeness now, especially in pubs. It saves them havi... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 2-May-2011
    You're right Mary, it used to be wonderful to hear the people coming out of the pubs in the fifties, singing and enjoying themselves on the way home. Now, they're not happy unless they are putting a bottle over someone's head. I remember when I used to stay the weekend with my cousin on Ashton Old Road, We used to love it when the pubs let out, and boy were there a lot of pubs along that road then... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 2-May-2011
    They used to have a good old sing song in the pubs in our days, perhaps that's what put people in the right frame of mind after closing time

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 4-May-2011
    WE HAVE A GOOD OLD SING SONG IN THE VALE COTTAGE EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT ,ALL THE OLD SONGS COME OUT

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 4-May-2011
    Not been in there since about 1970. Glad to hear it is still hiding behind the Nelson. yes I had a few good times in it to.

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-May-2011
    It's a cracking pub John. Respectable, nicely decorated and friendly.

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-May-2011
    I used to have a few sneaky pints in there, before I was 18. Had my first LEGAL pint in there to ..landlord had a fit when he found out I'd been going in for a good while before.Best bit was the danger as mum n dad were having drinypoo's in the nelson....Dred to think what would have happened if............

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-May-2011
    My first drink in a pub was in the Railway in Levenshulme at the corner of Albert Road. I was 15 wearing platform shoes. The order went like this:

    (Deep voice) Half a beer please
    Well, which one do want?
    (Immediately thrown) Er, what have you got?
    Bitter, mild, lager an... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 7-May-2011
    my fisrt drink was at granada bowls , you use to go upstairs to the bar 1 think i was only 14 i had a pint of lager and lime , lime !what a wus

  • Re: Pubs by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 10-May-2011
    The Vale Cottage was my local in the late 70's early 80's... the landlord then was called Ron Almond I believe he passed away recently... it was a great pub... couldn't move in there on a friday or saturday night... wilsons bitter was 25p a pint... happy days..

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-May-2011
    hey Colin, " If the bottom has fallen out of your world, DRINK Wilsons Bitter !!! And let the world fall out of your bottom. lol.

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 10-May-2011
    Wilsons always gave me heartburn. 6 pints of that and a curry from 'Wallies' (Belle Vue Restaurant on Hyde Road) gave me a gastric ulcer in my 20's. Didn't stop me though.

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-May-2011
    That song comes to mind by THE TROGGS... Wild thing you make my ring sting, haha lol.

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 11-May-2011
    i once did a runner from wallies, i waited a couple of months before i went back in , thinking they wouldnt recocgnise me but they did and gave me the previous bill. i had to laugh

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 11-May-2011
    My 2 mates at age 16 naively decided to do a runner from Wallies. They hadn't done it before, and when their meals arrived they scarpered down the road carrying them. I wouldn't have had the nerve to do such things.

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 11-May-2011
    I BET I KNOW YOUR MATES

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 11-May-2011
    And so does John Holmes Ex mill st.haha

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 11-May-2011
    Did you know Brian Roache John (Policeman at Mill Street) or was he a litte before your time?

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-May-2011
    Mary,
    Sorry, but I don't recall Brian, and like you say, it could be a bit before I arrived.
    John SAVIDENT, the butcher "Fred" in Coronation Street was also a Policeman at Mill Street, but just a few years before I got there too.
    If anyone knows any other names, please let me know.
    I also worked at Beswick Street in Ancoats, Whitworth Street in the City, and of course, the best of the lot, Gor... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 12-May-2011
    HI JOHN JUST WONDERED IF YOU KNEW RAY GRAHAM AS FAR AS I KNOW HE WORKED AT GREY MARE LANE, OR WAS THIS TO LATE FOR YOU

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 12-May-2011
    A couple of other names amongst my friends that were policeman were, Tommy Hulston and Alan Faulkner. Did you know them? I had a pen friend for years that was at Mill Street, but I forget his name, he went living in the Shetlands, but I have lost touch with him now, you wouldn't have known him anyway he'de be in his 80s now, but his letters were really interesting, the tales that man could tell ... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 13-May-2011
    Danny,
    Sorry mate, when I left Manchester, Mill Street was still operational and the site of the new Grey Mare Lane Police Station was back-to-back houses and shops.
    Mary,
    I certainly knew Alan Faulkner, although Alan was a little older than I, but he was a very good Police Officer.
    Another Gorton lad who was a long-serving Officer was Jim READY, but I heard some years ago that Jim had sadly passed away.
    John.

  • Re: Pubs by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 13-May-2011
    John ... I gave you the wrong name for the Policeman that came to St Mark's to give the road safety talks in the early 60's, it was Alan Faulkner.

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-May-2011
    Paul/Mary,
    Regarding Alan Faulkner:
    Can you remember if he finished up a Police Dog Handler, and can you remember if he ever lived in one of those four Police Houses on Hyde Road, right opposite Debdale Park?
    Although I knew him from Mill Street and Gorton, I have no idea where he finished up, as I eventually transferred to Gloucestershire.
    Thanks for the memories of Alan.

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 15-May-2011
    Last time I heard of Alan Faulkner, (about a year ago) I was told his wife Barbara, had died and he went regular to the monthly meetings, of St Marks reunions,It was his wife I knew more than him, but Paul (my son) remembers him teaching cycle safety to him in his school yard, I don't know how he ended up in the police work.But i can find out from a cousin of mine that went to these school reunions with him.

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-May-2011
    Mary,
    I would be really grateful if you could track Alan down or if it can be established where he finished up.
    I didn't know Alan was a former St Marks' lad - I was there between 1953 and 1959.
    Thanks Mary,
    John.

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 16-May-2011
    I'm trying to get some whereabouts of Alan, sent an e mail off to my cousin, but she hasn't been well lately, so I don't expect her to answer right away, anyway I will see what it brings, did you know Alan's brother's Harry, Tommy and Eric? we were the Sivouries milk bar crowd (on Hyde Road) when we had just left school,I left school in 48, and I reckon Alan was about 1948 too, so you are a lot y... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 2-Sep-2011
    i remember Alan faulkner, I used to play badminton with at St marks church hall ( next to Edmonds bakery on Hyde Road. He went to live in Denton off Hulme road.but I dont know if he moved on when Barbara died.

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Speedway by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
Do you remember the Speedway riders in Black Leathers? none of these bright colourd outfits they wear to day, and the track was cinders, you would often see someone get an eye full, or have someone take a cinder from your hair, and it was often we came out of the speedway with a dirty face through standing too near the fence, Saturday night was a good night at Belle
Vue, with all the trippers (a... more >>
  
  • Re: Speedway by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 25-Apr-2011
    The only ones I can remember are Ivor Major,Ove Fundin, Barry Briggs?, Fisher? Names that we all knew as well as our family seem to have, now faded into the mists of time again. I am sure others will fill in the GREAT names for us. thanks.

  • Re: Speedway by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I used to go every other Saturday to the Belle Vue Aces Speedway Track on Hyde Road.
    Peter Craven, sadly killed at Edinburgh, was the local herp, and a World Champion.
    I think Cyril Maidment and Dent Oliver were Managers for a while and the team had riders like Ove Fundin from Sweden.
    There was a funny little man, aged about 60, who drove the tractor round at break times with a rake on the back... more >>

  • Re: Speedway by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Notice I didn't mention the cost in those days, but it was one shilling and sixpence to go in, to day it costs a fortune to go in, if I am not mistaken it is about £17 each.

  • Re: Speedway by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Apr-2011
    How about Louis Lawson, Dent Oliver, Ken Sharples and that great skipper Jack Parker.

  • Re: Speedway by mavis fluerty (Member 10062155) on 7-May-2011
    Hi Ivan major lives here in New Zealand, think he teaches riding now retired of course, he is a New Zealander, so is Barry Brigg, think Ivan major has a riding school also, another one was Ronnie Moore also rode for the Aces.

  • Re: Speedway by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-May-2011
    I remember Ivan Mauger very well, that was a really golden age in the 60's and 70's.
    New Zealand and Scandinavia supplied an awful lot of speedway talent, and Belle Vue was the richest (and oldest) club, so a lot gravitated to Gorton.
    Later, eastern Europeans began to emerge as a force to be reckoned with, but it was truly an international sport, years before football's influx of foreign players... more >>

  • Re: Speedway by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-May-2011
    I was a fan of Ole Olsen myself, but I did swank to the Mauger fan's that I had been in Maugers bungalow and used his toilet,my husband had taken some glitter guards to him he had orderd for his bike, while my husband preferd Peter Collins to win the heats I preferd Ole Olsen, so it was good when they both rode together.

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Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 22-Apr-2011
I and my mates enjoyed many a day in Sutton Park - up the steps and along the passage way then into the park where, if my memory serves me right, on the left hand side were, the slide, monkey climber, junior swings. On the right hand side was, the roundabout, the jerker, the senior swings and the horse, with the maypole being in the middle. God, that jerker was something else, especially when you ... more >>   
  • Re: Sutton Park by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 23-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that Jack. Brought back memories, including the maypole which I'd forgotten about. You took your chances in those days, and if you got hurt it was through your own behaviour and no one else's fault.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 23-Apr-2011
    I was brought up in West Gorton, and previous came from near Sutton's estate, so when I went to Sunny Brow park I would show my mates this little park on sutton's estate, and used to feel good that only I knew it amongst them, it was good to think we were daring enough to use a park that only the kids on that estate was meant to be in, we often had squabbles with the local kids though, but to us i... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 23-Apr-2011
    Yes, you are correct about that Peter. Just imagine if all that cork matting had been laid down then like it is now in parks, I might even have taken a chance and let go of the handle on the Maypole and flown through the air. Nice soft landing. Ha, ha. I think it was turned into rent offices later, probably in the seventies or earlier.

    This lot today are putting claims in if the fall in the playground at school.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 23-Apr-2011
    I can imagine your friends surprise when you shown them Sutton Park tucked away off a street. Sunnybrow Park was tame compared to Sutton Park, well, sun shed apart, that is. most of my grandparents came from West Gorton,living in Bank Street, wherever that was. I haven't found out yet. Whereabouts in West Gorton did you live?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
    I lived on what they called the prison ground (in Forbes street) 1939- 1956 New Bank Street by the way was in Longsight

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 24-Apr-2011
    I know Forbes Street quite well. My local in the sixties was the Justice Birch just further down.I didn't say New Bank Street, Mary. The Bank Street, West Gorton, I am talking about was where my grandad was born in 1872. No 9 Bank Street, West Gorton, to be exact.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
    Sorry I thought you had got it wrong I didn't know Bank Street in West Gorton, and I have lived here for over 70 years where was it then?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
    Can you throw some light on this Paul, you seem pretty good on the old Streets of West Gorton, where was bank street? did it change it's name?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 25-Apr-2011
    No.... Bank Street has got me beat as well, I was also thinking it was New Bank Street.
    I've gone through all my West Gorton maps through to 1845 and found no (Bank Street) mentioned.
    On the 1898 map there are alot of the streets marked out but unamed, then on the 1929 map all those streets are named, but they are all the old names you know them by anyway.

  • Re: Sutton Park by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    The only Bank Street I knew was off Ashton Old Road at Clayton, at the side of Clayton Aniline.
    Bank Street was Manchester United's second football ground - after Newton Heath - and one of the reasons they were forced to quit that site was because of the chemical fumes from nearby.
    Like others, I have never heard of a Bank Street in Gorton or West Gorton, but it seems strange that there was a Ne... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 26-Apr-2011
    I'm afraid there definitely was a Bank Street in West Gorton around the 1870's because it is on the 1881 census as the address where my granddad and other relatives were born. I think though that West Gorton covered a larger area in those days than it does now; I could be wrong with that, but I'm sure I have seen places that a lot later came under Gorton?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Re Bank St:
    There was a Bank St in Gorton, been to the library today and looked at a Slaters directory. It was off Wellington St on the same side as the Cosmo. It was between Bank St and Hope St On that stretch of Wellington St was the Globe Inn, Squire Holt (grocer) and Whelpton undertakers. Hope this helps.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Re Bank St:
    I meant to say Bank St was between Cross St and Hope St. Sorry!

  • Re: Sutton Park by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    On my 1958 A to Z, it shows it as Banville Street, and is linked onto Gorelan Road. Must have changed its name. Probably Tesco petrol station now.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 26-Apr-2011
    Thanks Kate, that's brilliant. I had an idea it might be more what is known as Gorton, than West Gorton, as most of my other relations are from around Queens Road and Belle Vue Street, areas. Having said that, however, I always assumed that Queens Road, and the streets off it, were in Gorton? Or would they be in West Gorton. I have some certificates that say Waddington Street, for instance, is in ... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Belle Vue St was definitely in West Gorton. What you say about Queens Rd is correct. At the top end near Hyde Rd it would be Gorton as the West Gorton/Gorton boundary lay somewhere near the entrance to Gorton Park on Hyde Rd.
    Towards the Gorton Lane end it would be West Gorton as St Francis church is definitely in West Gorton. Fascinating!

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Regarding Queens Rd, I think The Gorton/West Gorton boundary lay near All Saints church and Blackwin St. I'm pretty certain that the streets past All Saints going to Hyde Rd were Gorton and in the opposite direction were West Gorton.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 27-Apr-2011
    Thanks to your detection work Kate, I've managed to find Bank St now running along side Cross St, sorry Jack.
    It's on an O.S. map from 1908 and does turn out to be the same street that you have have found Peter, named Banville St.
    Pin pointing it's exact spot on todays maps puts it in the back yard of the shops, now standing on the corner of Garratt Way and Wellington St. Just where the green ... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 27-Apr-2011
    http://bit.ly/eEBLBM
    I put the above into my browser and among some of the links it brought up was this one below.
    I didn't didn't want the FBI at my door so I didn't bring it up...LOL
    starbase.jpl.nasa.gov/mgn-v-rdrs-5-midr-c1-v1.0/mg.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 27-Apr-2011
    Thanks everyone, at least I know where it was now, and certainly look forward to seeing Paul's map. Just as a matter of interest, I don't suppose anyone has a photo of Bank Street/Banville Street or the old Belle Vue Street depicting the houses?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Apr-2011
    Jack, go on Manchester City Council Libraries website (80,000 photos)and do a search for Wellington Street, Gorton. (You might be on there hours). If you click on photos 3 times to make them the largest, you can then right-click and "save as" to your own pc.

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Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by Tracy Smithers (Member 10259944) on 21-Apr-2011
Looking for anyone that might remember this family or of living in Rigg Street. My great grandparents were Charles and Florence Moores and my grandfather was John (Jack) Moores. I think that they lived at 10 or 11 Rigg Street. Would be great to hear anyones memories of my family or living in Rigg Street. Hope to hear from you.   
  • Re: Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Tracy, I lived at 65 Cambert Lane, Gorton and shared a back-entry with Rigg Street, which ran directly behind, and parallel to, Cambert Lane.
    Rigg Street was the first street on the right off Taylor Street walking towards Gorton Lane.
    It had a little off-licence and store on its corner with Taylor Street, and was a dead-end street.
    I am sorry I don't recall the name of your relatives, but our l... more >>

  • Re: Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by Tracy Smithers (Member 10259944) on 25-Apr-2011
    Hi John

    Great to hear all that information. My great grandmother Florence used to play the piano at a cinema. From the odd pictures have seen she was tall and thin. I haven't even seen a picture of my great grandad Charles. My grandfather John (Jack) Moores left to goto Canada when he was 16 but eventually came back until the war. Very briefly he moved back to Rigg Street in 1946 with his wife ... more >>

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Pat O'neil by Gary morris (Member 10236122) on 15-Apr-2011
Hi.

Im looking for Patricia O'neil who used to work at the Cee n Cee supermarket,Bulls head before it became Kwik Save.It was around 1978/79.She worked as a butchers assistant there.She had red hair & was fairly tall.She either lived around the Plough pub area of Hyde Rd,or behind the Angel pub.She had a younger brother who i think was also called Pat.I remember her saying that they owned a ca... more >>
  
  • Re: Pat O'neil by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Apr-2011
    Did she live on Peacock Street, Cambert lane end?
    Thats all I can help with, if its the same person.

  • Re: Pat O'neil by Gary morris (Member 10236122) on 21-Apr-2011
    Hi John.

    When i come to think of it,they did live on Peacock st.I dont suppose you see them at all??

  • Re: Pat O'neil by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 21-Apr-2011
    Sorry cant help any more than that.I was last on Peacock st. in 1977 ish, mum stayed on there, I was just back from Germany. But funny how you remember things/ names/ before that i lived there about71 /72. Still dont know where that name popped up from.sorry.good luck in your search.

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Easter by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 15-Apr-2011
Happy forthcoming Easter to all....that reminds me when, In school one Easter break me and my mate's went for a swim up at the resser's. When we got there it was covered in a thin layer of ICE.....Talk about a quick dip, I was in and out before I got wet,brrrrrrr. Probably kill me now.   
  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 15-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past , Zan Izal , the thick black distinfectant, great on the stone kitchen floor( its now known as Jayes fluid ) I buy it for outside its quite toxic and the advice given on the label is not to be usd indoors, but I have put a little in my mop bucket just to get the whiff

  • Re: Easter by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Julie, Smells from the past?. Did you ever come accross Russian Tallow. My Grandad kept a chunk of it in a kitchen cupboard, and what the heck he used it for goodess only knows, but it certainly did reek. Health and Safety would probably ban it now. Then there was my Gran`s Wintergreen,- I can still smell that stuff to this day!!.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past (1)
    When you went back to Infant's School in September, after the Summer Holidays, and the Education Committee had stripped and sanded your classroom floor and varnished it - remember that?
    Smells from the past (2)
    You have to be good to remember this - again at the start of a new Term or Year, the wonderful smell of the wood of a brand new wooden ruler?
    Smells from the pa... more >>

  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Apr-2011
    Oh the new crayons , what about the ink pens and pots and the blotting paper, the ink was always on my fingers where the ink ran down then I used to wipe it on my dress.

  • Re: Easter by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Apr-2011
    Did you ever split the knibs and shove them into the milk bottle straws....they made great darts, until you got caught. who sir..not me sir. yeah right.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Remember Monitors at school?
    1) Ink Monitor used to mix powdered ink in a white enamel jug, and then go round and fill up the inkwells that were little ceramic pots sitting in a hole on the desk.
    2) Blackboard Monitor had to use the duster to wipe the board at the end of each class, so the teacher had a clean board to start the next lesson with.
    3) Milk Monitor was responsible for dishing out t... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 17-Apr-2011
    The only thing I remember dipping in the ink well were my fingers, to hide the nicotine stains from the nurse. Ha, ha.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Are you a relative of Keith FORSHAW who was in my class at St Marks'?
    I'm sorry if I have asked you this before- could be one of my grey moments !

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Wouldn't it be lovely if they pulled down every house in West Gorton today, and rebuilt the old terraced houses out of re-claimed brick, proper damp-prooofing, central heating and little gardens, and we all moved back to live out our lives just talking about the old days, and going for a pint at the re-built pubs?
    They say you should never go back anywhere, but I guess it would work - or is that ... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 18-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past.
    The sickly smell of the gas at the school butchers,I mean the school dentists and that fuzzy headache afterwards.
    Re trying to write with pen and ink, I was useless, it looked like a spider had fallen into the inkwell and dragged itself across my school book and every now and then shaking a bit off to form pools of the stuff. I wasn't much better when the fountain pen came... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 19-Apr-2011
    Hello John,

    I do have a second cousin called Keith Forshaw who is the brother of Neil Forshaw, but I think he went to Gorton Mount and Wright Robinson? He would be 48 now.

    Jack

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Hi Jack,
    Thanks for getting back to me.
    It can't be the same lad, as Keith Forshaw would be 63 or 64 by now.
    Shame really, he was a really nice lad.
    Take care old friend.
    John.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Smells to Remember:
    The hot pitch or melting tar on the roads when it was a really hot summer, and the "tar machine" that the Council used to spray on the streets before putting a layer of little granite chips down.
    My Mother used to say (probably incorrectly) that if all kids could get lung-fulls of that 'vapour' they would "have nowt wrong wi'yum".
    Yeah, right Mother!!

  • Re: Easter by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Do you remember how the pitch would form into a bubble in the hot sun? we loved to pop the bubbles, but it was murder when we got it on our whit week new clothes and shoes, we would rub it with butter to try to get it off, but all it made was a spread of a brown stain around the black

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mary,
    I remember the old "rub butter on it, it will soon go away" routine - and you are right, all it seemed to do was spread the stain around.
    We used to make tar bombs with lolly sticks which had warm tar at one end, and throw them at each other.
    Remember getting hot tar stuck on the side of your best while "gollies", and all the Meltonian White in the world never got rid of it.

  • Re: Easter by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Apr-2011
    Smells to remember:

    The smell of the speedway track as the bikes went round. Unforgettable!

  • Re: Easter by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes it was the white gollies I had in mind John, do you remember how we whitened them? then left them to dry in the sun, they looked awful if we didn't keep them whitened, you would think we had payed a fortune to buy them, we took so much pride in them, and half the time we couldn't afford a good leather shoe.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Spot on about drying your "gollies" in the sun after they had been whitened.
    After a while, the Meltonian White rotted the fabric and they fell to pieces.
    Remember trying to whiten your laces, and getting more whitening on your fingers than on the laces?
    Happy, happy days.

  • Re: Easter by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    I always wanted Nike £180 gollies. ;-)

  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 11-May-2011
    Plastic sandles brown for school , as kids we hated them but was'nt they practical, my mother used to buy then for us kids for on the beach at blackpool then we would wear them for playing out in .
    Now they sell them everywear for kids and are quite popular their new name is Jellies they do alsorts of colours.
    A clog type version with a strap now known as crocks not for me I have to say but I... more >>

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-May-2011
    Is it me, or was the chocolate on Easter Eggs a lot thicker in the 1950's and 1960's?

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-May-2011
    Is it me, or was the chocolate on Easter Eggs a lot thicker in the 1950's and 1960's?

  • Re: Easter by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 26-May-2011
    I am sure you are right on this one John, Chocolate eggs are so much thinner these days. Also, has it been noticed that products like Penguin bars are now half the size and three times the cost.Wagon wheels were quite "large", whereas now they have shrunk, but the cost has`nt. There are other examples I could mention, but I guess you will get the point.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-May-2011
    Roy,
    Spot on old friend.
    "Jubblies" used to weigh a ton in frozen ice, rock hard, they would have sunk the Titanic, but now, they are really tiny.
    "Mars Bars" are definitely smaller.
    "Smarties" never have the same number of sweets in a tube as they used to be.
    Don't know about you Roy, I feel cheated these days!!

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Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
Who is the furthest away visitor / member to this lovely site? I now live in Claremorris, Mayo.Eire. What about you???   
  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    I live in Lincolnshire, close to the Norfolk Border

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Margaret Rochford (Member 10257531) on 14-Apr-2011
    I'm in County Wicklow, near Glendalough, not as far away as you John.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    Lovely Margaret, how are you honey - will email you this weekend - wish I lived in such a beautiful place as you - give my love to Avoca - my favourite church and village, xxx

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 15-Apr-2011
    I'm only in Haughton Green, but the journey seems endless with the new stupid cycle lanes they've put in around Far Lane. Tailbacks to Denton roundabout in the morning and to West Gorton in the evening. Green lights do not mean you can go, as you still have to sit there. Have seen one cyclist in 3 weeks using them. I hate Councils. They just muck everything up.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by julie (Member 10255407) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi , not been on for a while , hope all is well
    I am in Blackrod near Chorley not that far away , very pretty though ... Julie

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi All
    This comes from far away tropical Moston where the cyclist don't bother with cycle lanes, let those pedestrians use them they say. The cyclist use what was once called the pavement, They obviously think its much safer than cycling next to all that horrible traffic.
    Dave

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    You want to try driving round Trafalgar Square in London - there all the cars, vans, lorries and buses actually BORROW at bit of the road off Mountain Bikers - at least that is exactly how it feels.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    You want to try driving round Trafalgar Square in London - there all the cars, vans, lorries and buses actually BORROW at bit of the road off Mountain Bikers - at least that is exactly how it feels.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    You can say that again John. Oh, you did. ;-) ;-);-)

  • Re: Furthest Away. by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 16-Apr-2011
    I am Still in Gorton,i have been in Gorton since 1939 & proud of being a Gortonian

  • Re: Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Apr-2011
    Well said. althugh I was born in Paisley,Scotland.I was dragged up in Gorton, And feel that I too am a Gortonian, Iv'e been out in the deserts of Western Australia, now in Western Ireland.And people ask Where are you from ? and I say GORTON. And proud to do so.Never met more freindly people.Well done all of you.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Harold, that's fantastic to have lived on hallowed ground all those years, well done old friend.
    I have imagined John meeting an aborigine near Ayer's Rock, and the abo saying "I was born in Gorton, do you know it?"

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 17-Apr-2011
    I used to go camping all over the country with the Far Lane Scouts in the 1970's. People would ask me where I came from, and I would say Manchester. If I said near Belle Vue, they would often know the whereabouts. What a great shame it's all gone.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 17-Apr-2011
    Scary.... Funny thing happened when I met my first abbo girl, her name? was Paisley her Grandad was a jock.Good job he didn't come from Cheetam hill, she might have been called????

  • Re: Furthest Away. by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 10-May-2011
    I'm in Sydney Australia... been here since 1985, but have been back a few times to Gorton... revisiting the old memories, Peacock Street School, then Wright Robinson, although that's gone now!

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Eric Davies (Member 10270400) on 6-Feb-2012
    Vancouver Canada (over on the Pacific Side)since 2005. Visited Gorton more than a few times since I lived there and was born in 27 Clay Street 1950..My grandma Thompson also lived further up the same street until the mid sixties. Last visit back was around 2005 to the crematory where gran grandad are buried. Found everything apart from the churches and other old buildings look quite modern now.

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Hartland / Surrey gardens. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
Anybody any info on two lost pals from the above..Malcolm Sargeant or Ray Glass.? please.Thanks in advance.   
  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    Sorry John, can't help with this one mate.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
    no bother... you probably locked them up anyway.!!!ha ha.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    John, I tried to avoid locking up fellow Gortonians - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't - miss them all now though mate, really do.
    Take it easy John, good to hear from you.
    John.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-May-2011
    There's a few you wouldn't avoid locking up now John, believe me, Gorton has changed so much, but it's still the best place on earth to me

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-May-2011
    Totally agree, I miss West Gorton and Gorton and my heart always belongs there, but I wish it had stayed the great place that we all remembered from our childhood.
    I wish I had remembered more and I wish I had spoken to more people when I had the chance.

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School Reunion by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 12-Apr-2011
due to public demand a ANY age school reunion for St James Gorton and Peacock St Gorton will be held at the Lord Nelson pub on the first Sunday in June (thats 5th June 2011)starting 12.00-3.00pm, If last year is anything to go by it should be great Everyone is welcome , bring your memories, your school photos, and your partner's (if applicable)
Alan Bowden
  
  • Re: School Reunion by george gee (Member 10245909) on 12-Apr-2011
    my name is geoge gee (nickname JOGGER)and Iwas a pupil at SAINT JAMES before the war Ihave fond memories of TWINK MR PANTER MISS GREEN and MISS MORTON I was wondering if any of my old school chums are still knocking about and might be at the reunion I shall try my best to attend the re-union all the very best GEORGE GEE

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    George, try this link for St James on Friendsreunited:
    http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/school.page/Primary%20school/list/England/North%20West/Lancashire?term=saint%20james

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    Highlight the link, right-click and copy, then paste into your white address bar at the top of your browser page. Press enter and you should go straight there.

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The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 11-Apr-2011
Anyone used to go in the Pomona? We would go in the mid 1970's when a blind man used to play the organ, with his dog sitting patiently under the seat. Tony Marsden was the compere, and Renee Rhythm was the landlady, who sat at the back of the entertainment room, drinking from a tall glass that resembled a vase. It was a good night, with waiter service, but the jokes would always be the same. I did... more >>   
  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Apr-2011
    Do you mean the Bull's Head at Reddish?
    A builder's merchants?
    God, what has the world come to - a great pub reduced to that - we must be mad, how sad to hear that news - disgraceful.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    Yes John, the one at North Reddish. It went downhill a few years ago. The last time I went in the barmaid tried to do me out of my change. It was a very respectable pub at one time. The world's changed, but sadly not for the better.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Any self respecting "Gorton Boot Boy" would not have set foot in the Pomona, as it was a gay freindly pub, if I remember....well so I'm told.haha.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    It certainly was John, but frequented by many straight couples (like me and my missus). The gays would have a laugh and joke with you, and weren't politically correct in any sense. Never saw any trouble.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Do you know how to tell if a guy is Gay?....When he shuts HIS eyes when you kiss him.
    Do you know when a guy isn't Gay? When he shuts YOUR eyes when you kiss him. Great old jokes,haha no offence to anybody intended.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 13-Apr-2011
    I WORKED THERE IN THE LATER YEARS BEFORE IT CLOSE DOWN; YOU COULD SEE THE PUB GO DOWN EACH WEEK,I WAS DOING KARAOKE AND HAD MY DISCS PINCHED AND A FEW WEEKS LATER THE SECURITY GUY WAS HANDING THE KARAOKE BOOKS OUT TO MY DISCS , THE GUY WHO NICKED THEM OUT OF THE PUB SOLD THEM TO THIS GUY IN THE PUB , HOW HARD FACED CAN YOU GET?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Danny. I only ever went in the Pomona twice in the past,and it was`nt such a choice place then,- very run down. Did you or anyone go in the Fir Tree in Reddish. I played there in a trio for nearly five years at weekends. it was a good place then, good ale, and I made many friends there. Dont know what it is like these days, dont live over there now.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    Its heyday was the 60's and 70's. I went in a couple of times in the 1980's & 90's and it was so depressing.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    The Pomona, I mean. Last time I went in the Fir Tree, it seemed a bit rough.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just got back from seeing an old mate who lives in Delph near Oldham.
    The subject of the Pomona Inn at Reddish lane, and the landlady called Renee Rhythm cropped up.
    My mate told me she ran the first ever gay pub in Manchester (not the Rembrandt) and also ran the Northern Sporting Club in the Miles Platting/Ancoats area.
    He remembers her well, a real hard-case, but cannot remember the na... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Ye Foo Foo was a great entertainer, I remember going to see him a good few years back ,i was at a hen party, (His club was popular for this sort of thing) before his show the girls surrounded him and he made a big fuss of them, they seemed to think a lot of him, then when he went on stage dressed in drag, he would jokingly call them bitches for looking as glamourous as himself, he had relatives fa... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    It's funny Mary mentioned Frank Lamarr having a female following, it's perfectly true, and I always thought it was because women felt very safe and un-threatened in his company, much the same as today really.
    When I was a young Detective working in the Ancoats and Beswick area, the Police frequently laid on charity evenings to raise money for under-priveledged children in those areas (I am talkin... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes John I was going to mention I had heard Foo Foo was very giving, sounded like he was a good hearted fellow, I began to wish i had seen him more often, isn't it funny how you hear more of the good in people after they have died ?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just done some research:
    Frank Foo Foo Lamarr died aged 66 in 2003.
    Bunny Lewis died aged 71 in 2008.
    Few people know that Frank was a handy boxer, and could really look after himself, but a gentler, kinder Mancunian I never knew.
    He was a true gentleman, and I never heard anybody have a bad word for him - a sad loss.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Donna Barwick (Member 10269236) on 5-Jan-2012
    Hi I just came across this site whilst looking for the name Renee Rhythm. My father did relief for some time at the Pomona Pub, I think in 1986, I was about 10. We didnt know before living there but after a few days started to think the place was haunted. It was mainly lights, shadows, feeling something brush past on the stairs and the sound of a woman laughing in the concert room when the place... more >>

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Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Apr-2011
Did any of you kids from the 60's ever get a pushbike stolen? if you did, did you ever get the invite to go to Mill St, and go down stairs and see if it was there...if not pick one?   
  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
    Yeah, my little trusty was taken, still had its stabilisers on.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    I think that if the police did not find your bike, it would probably end up on Greymare lane market!!!!haha.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 8-Apr-2011
    Oh well, I guess thats put the 'mockers' on it then !!!! hehe

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    I was a detective at Mill Street Police Station between 1967 and 1979, and you're right, most stolen bikes finished up on Grey Mare Lane Market.
    When the cycle store got full up, we used to call all the local kids in, and give them a free bike.
    Happy Days.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    As detectives, we used to drink in the pub opposite the nick, it was called The Bradford - but the locals nicknamed it The Trough - where the pigs drank.
    All-in-all, we got on very well with the locals, all salt-of-the-earth blokes, and once a year we played cricket against them, or had a tug-of-war across some stinking canal in Ancoats, all for local kid's charities.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that... thought I may have had a senior moment...I can just about remember it.Funny how some things are vivid, and some a faint memory.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 12-Apr-2011
    Hi John
    The Bradford changed to some sort of sports pub but last year they demolished it, that another pub to bite the dust
    Dave

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Dave,
    I can't believe what the world is coming to, the Bradford demolished?
    I must have bought the equivalent of 50 bricks of that lovely building over the years, given the money I spent in there.
    The local lads were brilliant, mostly ex-miners from the old Bradford Pit down the road, and boy, could they drink!
    Another fine building ground to dust, we will never learn will we?
    Some numpty in ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mill Street Police Station had an old brick-built mortuary inside the cobbled rear-yard (used before the Central Mortuary was opened in Robert Street, Ancoats), and the local kids from Butterworth Street (at the back of the "nick"), would never go into the yard for fear of ghosts - which meant our hub-caps were safe at least.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Inside the "nick" it was all brass banisters and oak doors and lovely cream and green tiles up the walls - we used to say it looked like a Roman Bath with no water in it.
    In truth, the building must have cost a lot of money to build, and why is was pulled down I will never know - surely it could have been converted to offices or flats?
    Originally it had an Ambulance Station built into it and fac... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 6-May-2011
    My jnr school off Stockport Road was bombed, it was st Joseph's, am I right in thinking this is where the police building was later? there was a rumour going round amongst us kids that the later building was haunted.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Mary,
    I understand it started life as a Boy's Reform School, then became an Approved School and in the 1950's became a Police Station and Motor Garages for the (then) Manchester City Police.
    The Criminal Records Office, Recruiting, Tailoring,
    Bandroom, Serious Crime Squad, Stolen Car Squad, Regional Crime Squad and Police Cadet Corps, as well as the Fingerprint and Photographic Department were ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Graham Corbett (Member 10271490) on 9-Mar-2012
    John. Being a local copper in and around Gorton, did you ever know of a Patrick (Pat) Brady. He lived with his wife and two child in Trust Road on the Sutton estate from the late 50s to early 70's. I believe he too also worked out of Mill Street in the 1960's.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Stewart Adshead (Member 10283081) on 3-Mar-2013
    Graham, A very good friend of mine started his career at Belle Vue PS station, Eric Bradley he is now 61. Ring any bells??

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People by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
do the names Bibo Veevo Mariasa mean ring a bell to anyone. I think a Mariasa was in my class at Thomas Street Primary. I have been searching endlessly for a friend and her family with no results on planet earth... I have resorted to reporting them missing to the police along with a report of continuous interference in my life from a man from West Gorton , short stocky and with a limp. To those ... more >>   
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Gorton Baths by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Apr-2011
Are the baths still standing? I can remember going to above for a hot bath, we did not have hot water,central heating or owt like that.Couldn't you take your washing there to?   
  • Re: Gorton Baths by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-Apr-2011
    Hi John, no they were knocked down in 2007.
    A couple of years before that they were used as a Gymnastics centre for kids though.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 6-Apr-2011
    What sad news! I spent many an happy hour in the swimming baths, we went with Thomas St school every week. I remember how proud I was when I got my free pass for swimming so many lengths. Also, many fond memories of the wash baths, where you could hire soap and towel for a few pence. The woman in charge was very strict and shout for you to come out if she thought you'd been in too long!

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 6-Apr-2011
    The wash-house and hot baths were in the same building. I think for most women Monday was 'wash day' where as well as the washing they would enjoy a good gossip, and why not?

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-Apr-2011
    I believe they were subject to an arson attack by 2 teenage girls, and demolition was the only viable option.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Apr-2011
    My late Dad used to take my brother Chris and I every Friday night when we lived on Clowes Street, and his mate Billy RENWICK taught us both to swim.
    I still have my framed one length certificate dated
    1958.
    I rememeber it was two pence for a cup of steaming OXO after your swim, and Saturdays was bath day, six pence for a soap and towel, and as much cold water as you liked, but only after the ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-Apr-2011
    The Wash House was my Mum's weekly day out in the 60's and early 70's. She just enjoyed the company. She would push a pram full of washing from Suttons Estate to Gorton Wash House. If our dog was out it would follow her, so to keep it safe from the traffic she would put Shep on the pram on top of the washing where the dog would look proud.

    Sometimes, mum and a neighbour would make it a real tre... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 7-Apr-2011
    I have loads of memories of Gorton baths brought back reading other comments. I too was taught to swim there with Thomas Street and also the cubs.
    Openshaw Tech had the house swimming Gala there as did the cubs when i was about 10. The memories I treasure most are of going with my late Dad early on a Sunday morning, that was a real treat.
    Dave

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 8-Apr-2011

    My Mam went to the wash-house every Saturday. She had a pram load of clothes. When she came home, everything was put on the clothes rack up on the ceiling, remember those, brilliant idea really.
    The wash-baths...that was a Saturday afternoon ritual for us. Although, I have to say I enjoyed the days when the galvanized tub ( hung on wall in air-raid shelter ) was brought in and we'd have a b... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 8-Apr-2011
    Hi Irene. Yes, and we all shared the same water. I remember pans and kettles of hot water being brought from the kitchen to fill it up. Due to the metallic tub, the water appeared grimy before anyone had bathed in it so it didn't look any dirtier when 5 of us had used it. Mum always used Fairy Household soap in almost brick size bars, and it didn't smell that good. No bathroom though of course.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    Pete and Irene,
    I remember those circular galvanised tubs only too well, and the soap? It was like carbolic acid, stung your eyes like mad, and when it dried, it had cracks in it and sharp edges you cut cut you fingers on!
    Palmolive was green and Sunlight was kind of whitish yellow, both were none-too-gentle on the skin, but they got the filth off us kids.
    Friday night was always bath night in ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 9-Apr-2011
    I was born in 1937 and I was twenty before I saw an inside loo. Now, I have three to clean.
    We didn't miss what we'd never had though did we.
    Going outside to the loo toughed up us too... Brrr....

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 9-Apr-2011
    Wonderful days. Would I go back? Only as an observer. :-)

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 10-Apr-2011
    Nor would I.Still, we can laugh about about 'em now can't we!

  • Re: Gorton Baths by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 16-Apr-2011
    Does anyone remember Mr Jackson the swimming teacher at Gorton Baths he had a son called John who swam for the England schools swimming team

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember as a young Policeman at Gorton Police Station on Hyde Road being called to an Intruder Alarm activation at Gorton Wash-House, next to Gorton Baths, in the middle of the night.
    As I walked in with the key-holder, I shone my torch and saw that there were literally thousands of black-jacks scurrying across the concrete floor.
    Needless to say, I got out pretty quickly.
    One of the things ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 7-Sep-2011
    Harold I remember Mr Jackson . It seemed like he had been at Gorton baths for ever.I dont know if he took a dislike to me but when I took my life saving badge he put me with the tallest guy he could find.9I was on the small sideThe guy was called Colin Brierly, I dont know if anybody remembers him.

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Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 3-Apr-2011
what ever happened to the Books family on Parkdale Road? I was an old friend of Robert.   
  • Re: Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    Parkdale Ave Val, Hilary, Rose,Robert,Linda Brooks?

  • Re: Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    My step grandad was cyril Parkinson also from Gorton born about 1920? one of four boys youngest left home to live with a women from Bolton

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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
J.F Kennedy's Assassination: November 1963:
I had travelled from Belle Vue, Gorton to Queens Road, Cheetham Hill on the 53 bus that afternoon with my school-mate Tom BILLINGTON, and we walked to the Bowling Alley round the corner on Cheetham Hill Road, it was in a converted cinema.
Halfway through our game, around tea-time, there was a radio announcement that Kennedy had been shot dead in Dallas... more >>
  
  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Manchester United Air Crash: February 1958:
    I was at home on Clowes Street in the evening when my Dad William HOLMES came in with the Manchester Evening News that told the story of the crash.
    This would have been the day after, and the news stunned the whole of West Gorton, as well as the rest of Manchester.
    I remember my Dad was in tears as he read the paper, and we talked about this a lot whe... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Queen Elizabeth's Coronation: June 1953:
    I was a tiny youngster at St Marks' on Clowes Streetwhen the coronation took place on 2nd June that year.
    I remember that the main street party near us was in Spurgeon Street off William Street, and when my mother collected me from school, I saw all the trestle tables laid out with butties, cakes and drinks, with colourful bunting criss-crossing the stree... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Sweets Coming Off Rationing: February 1953:
    I was a child living at 126 Clowes Street, West Gorton when sweets came off post-war rationing on 5th February.
    Although I could not remember the date then, I remember the announcement, and my brother Christopher and I went to the sweet-shop that stood on the opposite side of Clowes Street, on its corner with William Street, facing St Mark's church.
    A... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Taking the Eleven-Plus Examination: 1959:
    I can't remember the date exactly, it must have been early on in the year, but I remember walking to Openshaw Technical High School near Ashbury's Station with my mate from St. Mark's, Keith (Fudgie) BROOKS to sit the exam.
    I remember that all the ten year olds from St Marks' went to the same location that year to sit the Eleven-Plus, but for the life of... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Manchester City's FA Cup Win: May 1956:
    I was never a Man City fan, but can remember feeling proud when they beat Birmingham City 3-1 at Wembley on 5th May that year.
    My Dad was a bigger Red than me, but he took me to Manchester's London Road Railway Station (later to be demolished and re-built as Manchester's Piccadilly Railway Station)when Man City brought the FA Cup back to the City on the tr... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Man's First Landing on the Moon: 1969:
    Like most other families, we were huddled round the little black and white TV in our "best room" when Neil ARMSTRONG landed on the moon.
    It was quite unreal, and as young children my brother Christopher and I could not really grasp what had happened, and the achievment was only appreciated by me years later.
    On the date of the moon landing, we were living ... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 3-Apr-2011
    Re the Moon Landing, neighbours in Trust Road squeezed into one house to see it in colour on a colour set, and the damned thing was in black and white anyway. I recall there was a delay of about 3 hours from the time they were due to land so we went out to play for a couple of hours.

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Moon Landing, did it actualy happen? or was it another conspiracy.mmmmmmmmmmmmm Must stop them bloody tablets.haha.I was in Morecambe visiting my sister, she just had a baby on the 18july.

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by Dennis Barker (Member 10261276) on 12-May-2011
    Manchester City Cup Final Win...
    I was there in 1955 when they played most of the game with 10 men (no subs allowed) and lost 3-1 to Newcastle then back again in 1956 to beat Brum 3-1 and hoist the Cup.

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The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Mar-2011
Anybody remember Cyril Shelmerdine's Mace shop, next to Les Page the Butcher,and opposite The Newsagents on Gorton Lane.? He was in the R.A.F during the war,bomber command and according to rumour was shot down.!!! any info please.ta.   
  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hiya John, yes I remember a mate of mine Peter Plant, saying he had got a part time job at a grocers called Shelmerdine's on Gorton Lane. He started doing Saturday's then began doing most nights after school at Bishop Greer, he did mention something about him being an ex RAF pilot and having a sports car late in life.
    Peter went on to being the manager of the Tesco's at Openshaw and Stalybridge last I heard.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 29-Mar-2011
    Well it's a small world....I followed Peter into that same job,I was at B/G with Peter too, forgot about him,thanks.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    Were you in the same year as us then, only I don't remember your name.
    Others in our class were:-
    Stuart Milner, Chris Penson, Mike Evans and Vivian Hannon who I was with through Primary school as well. Dennis Allen, Dave Mc Intyre, Chris Owen, Peter Hulley, Tony Boden.
    Lesley Mellor, Janice Ashworth, Lynn Rowlinson, Lynn Stanley, Gillian Smith, Ann Thompson.

    In the same year but differe... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 30-Mar-2011
    non of the above sorry!!name I remember are,Eddie Riley,Billy Young, Malcolm Alcock,Derek Beamish,Dave o'Shaunessy jimmy Pledger.Sue Pearson,Gale Clay,Agnes ?,Doreen Elms,and the first black lass in the school..Absa Drameh,who ended up my girl freind, Teresa Minchion...Any Help.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 31-Mar-2011
    Hi John.
    Looking at those names I only recognise Derek Beamish's, but I think he was a couple of years above me. There was also a Sharon o'Shaunessy in our class now come to think of it.
    Peter Plant had an older brother at B.G, about 2 or 3 years above me named Alan. Did you know him? he went working as a Cabinet Maker when he left.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 31-Mar-2011
    Derek married Aggie Foster class room romance,they are still together. Derek used to live on that row of houses next to the steelworks pub, opposit the Bessemere pub on Taylor street corner. Cant remember others sorry.
    Can you remember when the headmaster Mr.Sutherland slapped Dave O'Shaunessy on the stage in a school assembly??? couldn't do it these days,mores the pity!!!

  • Re: The Mace Shop by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-May-2011
    The first message in this section makes mention of Les PAGE, a butcher on Gorton Lane.
    I knew him well, he was the younger brother of Mrs ELLOR who was married to an ex-Policeman Mr ELLOR who ran that newsagency.
    I courted their daughter, Janet ELLOR, in 1964, who was of course Les PAGE's niece, and a very nice man.
    I often wonder what happened to him and to the ELLOR family, particularly Janet... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 10-Jun-2011
    Hello John,
    I,m a fellow Gortonian and new to the site.
    My family lived in Whittaker St, off Gorton Lane,
    My dads local was the Steelework's Tavern,and his best friend was Jack Beamish, he lived on that row of houses next to the Steeleworks pub, so Derek must be his son, I believe he had a sister named Pamela, only yesterday I was going through some old family photo's and I came across
    a weddi... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Kathleen Parker (Member 10257688) on 20-Jul-2012
    Hi Ive just seen your thread about Jack Beamish , I see Dereks wife Agnes now and then she works in Hyde so if you want me to pass a message on I will do thanks

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Roger Lee (Member 10284447) on 7-Apr-2013
    This is my first post to this site. I well remember Cyril Shelmerdine, though not as the Mace Shop. Perhaps that came after me! I worked for him from '61 to '64, as his order boy. He was a great bloke, and his wife a lovely woman. I was born and bred in Beyer St., and the back gate of our back yard faced on to the row of shops that included Shelmerdines, Broxton's Greengrocers, the Barbers Topping... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Roger Lee (Member 10284447) on 20-Apr-2014
    Regarding the two postings re Derek Beamish, he is/was my cousin. His mother May was a sister of my mother Elsie, and I well remember Derek, his sister Pam, and their older brother John. I think there were two more siblings, but don't remember their names. I also remember their father Jack, and his brother Jim, who lived with them at the house down the cutting from the Steelworks. Happy Gorton day... more >>

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Account Delete by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 23-Mar-2011
Hello, Could anyone tell me how I can delete my knowhere.co.uk account, cheers.   
  • Re: Account Delete by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 23-Mar-2011
    Its not obvious so I suggest you click on the "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page, in there is a section titled "correct/update" and follow the instructions and contact them with your request. Hope this helps.

  • Re: Account Delete by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 23-Mar-2011
    Thanks Dave, i will try that.

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Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 22-Mar-2011
Hi does anyone know anything of the Lamb family Lived in Walnut Street until 1967/8 I ask as I know hardly anything about my family..
Any information appreciated
Peter
  
  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 24-Mar-2011
    Hi Peter
    I am not sure if it is the same Lamb's that I have a slight connection with .
    I know of a Grace Lamb dont know her maiden name who I know had a couple of sons and a daughter she married a Bob Skarratt.
    Both Grace and Bob are no longer with us, but the two sons are around I heard in the Denton area.
    Might not be the ones you are looking for but I have heard of the lambs and that they ... more >>

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 24-Mar-2011
    Thomas Lamb lorries on Wellington St was taken over by his daughter Vera Lamb when her dad died, I've never known if they were really a Gorton family though.
    She married a Polish man Julian Geboly, and lived on a a farm in Woodford in the 50's - 60's, the firm went into liquidation early in 1969.
    I'm intrigued now to see if there is a link?

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi Paul
    Grace Lamb ( lamb being her married name) dont know her maiden name, but her husband might have been called Robert or Ernie as they had two sons named Robert and Ernie. Grace was from Gorton and rests in Gorton cemetery
    Grace later married a Skarratt, dont know what her ex husband did or does, but their two sons I think are around possibly the Denton area.

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi thanks for that, some more details, my father was called George and my mother Irene. I never got to find anything out about my family as my mother was not keen to talk about it..

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi
    I am sure the name George Lamb has been mentioned on here , lets keep trying .... julie

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Thnk I was thinking George Lamb the actor, off Eastenders with Tv presenter son Larry or the other way round .... yes the other way round

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Mar-2011
    Sure it wasn't Joe Lamb from West Gorton, he's been mentioned a few times?

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi Kate , it could be Joe Lamb that I have seen on here.
    A Peter Lamb is wanting info on the Lambs maybe they are his relatives

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 26-Mar-2011
    Thanks for replies to my question.. I believe my great grandfather was a Thomas Lamb married to a Gertrude Lamb and that my grandfather was a George William Lamb who was a driver in the army and died in 1943 when my father was a kid. Whether this is the same Tommy Lamb as the Gorton firm I do not know.

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 11-Jun-2011
    Lamb family,
    Re Joe Lamb mentioned by another member,
    I remember Joe Lamb he was a friendly man,when I was about 8 I would often pass Joe on my way to All Saints school, he would be walking down Laurence Street, and would offer me an orange he alway's seemed to have oranges and always greeted me and the kids by saying "hello my old cock sparrow" he was very overweight and use to wear white plim... more >>

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by stuart mcintyre (Member 10296593) on 15-Oct-2014
    lived in stanley st opp gorton park from 1945 and saw and said hello to joe lamb on many occ. in his latter years we were told in his youth he was a good athlete and a brilliant swimmer he put a lot of weight on and had a problem with his right leg forcing him to walk slowly he had a seat at the pictures altered so he could sit comfortable Can see him now after all them years !

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doctors by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 22-Mar-2011
does any body remember dr ross on gorton lane near peacock st school or dr levy at mount rd surgery. i remember these 2 because they both smoked cigars when you went to see them   
  • Re: doctors by David McWilliams (Member 10258333) on 22-Mar-2011
    Danny, I don't remember these doctors but my doctor was Dr Devlin on Hyde Road near the railway bridge. He also smoked and had bottle of whiskey on his desk which he drank in front of you !

  • Re: doctors by julie (Member 10255407) on 22-Mar-2011
    Yeah I remember Dr Levy he was my doctor when I was a child

  • Re: doctors by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 22-Mar-2011
    Yes, I too recall Dr. Levy, and indeed a Dr. Smith at the sugery on Mount Rd. As a youngster, these were our family doctors. I also used to attend this surgery for sunlight treatment after a serious illness. I can also remember most of the shops and proprietors that used to be on this stretch of Mount Rd.

  • Re: doctors by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Anyone remember Dr.Scott and Dr.Reynolds on Clowes Street?
    Dr. Scott had gold=rimmed glasses and was a kind and quiet man who looked after West Gorton;s sick for many many years.
    Anyone remember a Dr. Valdez at all?
    I think he may have had a surgery on Belle Vue Street, West Gorton, but am not sure.
    I remember him coming to see me as a child about 1954 when I lived at 126 Clowes Street, and he... more >>

  • Re: doctors by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hi John, I remember Dr Scott and Dr Reynalds very well at the Clowes St surgery. Dr Scott moved to Wenlock way medical centre with Dr Valdez,I believe there was also a Dr Kay and a Dr Bijral in that practice.
    Dave

  • Re: doctors by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    That's right John, Dr Valdez had a surgery on Belle Vue St near "Dutton's for Buttons" almost facing the phone boxes. We lived in Coventry St round the corner from the surgery, but my doctor was Dr Broman on Hyde Rd near the bottom of Clowes St, before his son took over and moved into the new West Gorton Centre.

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Happy St. Paddy's Day! by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 17-Mar-2011

Here in the US, St.Patrick's Day is a big deal, everyone is Irish.
So, with my tongue firmly pressed into my cheek, I post the following link.
Enjoy........I hope!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
  
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