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School Reunion by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 12-Apr-2011
due to public demand a ANY age school reunion for St James Gorton and Peacock St Gorton will be held at the Lord Nelson pub on the first Sunday in June (thats 5th June 2011)starting 12.00-3.00pm, If last year is anything to go by it should be great Everyone is welcome , bring your memories, your school photos, and your partner's (if applicable)
Alan Bowden
  
  • Re: School Reunion by george gee (Member 10245909) on 12-Apr-2011
    my name is geoge gee (nickname JOGGER)and Iwas a pupil at SAINT JAMES before the war Ihave fond memories of TWINK MR PANTER MISS GREEN and MISS MORTON I was wondering if any of my old school chums are still knocking about and might be at the reunion I shall try my best to attend the re-union all the very best GEORGE GEE

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    George, try this link for St James on Friendsreunited:
    http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/school.page/Primary%20school/list/England/North%20West/Lancashire?term=saint%20james

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    Highlight the link, right-click and copy, then paste into your white address bar at the top of your browser page. Press enter and you should go straight there.

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The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 11-Apr-2011
Anyone used to go in the Pomona? We would go in the mid 1970's when a blind man used to play the organ, with his dog sitting patiently under the seat. Tony Marsden was the compere, and Renee Rhythm was the landlady, who sat at the back of the entertainment room, drinking from a tall glass that resembled a vase. It was a good night, with waiter service, but the jokes would always be the same. I did... more >>   
  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Apr-2011
    Do you mean the Bull's Head at Reddish?
    A builder's merchants?
    God, what has the world come to - a great pub reduced to that - we must be mad, how sad to hear that news - disgraceful.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    Yes John, the one at North Reddish. It went downhill a few years ago. The last time I went in the barmaid tried to do me out of my change. It was a very respectable pub at one time. The world's changed, but sadly not for the better.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Any self respecting "Gorton Boot Boy" would not have set foot in the Pomona, as it was a gay freindly pub, if I remember....well so I'm told.haha.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    It certainly was John, but frequented by many straight couples (like me and my missus). The gays would have a laugh and joke with you, and weren't politically correct in any sense. Never saw any trouble.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Do you know how to tell if a guy is Gay?....When he shuts HIS eyes when you kiss him.
    Do you know when a guy isn't Gay? When he shuts YOUR eyes when you kiss him. Great old jokes,haha no offence to anybody intended.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 13-Apr-2011
    I WORKED THERE IN THE LATER YEARS BEFORE IT CLOSE DOWN; YOU COULD SEE THE PUB GO DOWN EACH WEEK,I WAS DOING KARAOKE AND HAD MY DISCS PINCHED AND A FEW WEEKS LATER THE SECURITY GUY WAS HANDING THE KARAOKE BOOKS OUT TO MY DISCS , THE GUY WHO NICKED THEM OUT OF THE PUB SOLD THEM TO THIS GUY IN THE PUB , HOW HARD FACED CAN YOU GET?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Danny. I only ever went in the Pomona twice in the past,and it was`nt such a choice place then,- very run down. Did you or anyone go in the Fir Tree in Reddish. I played there in a trio for nearly five years at weekends. it was a good place then, good ale, and I made many friends there. Dont know what it is like these days, dont live over there now.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    Its heyday was the 60's and 70's. I went in a couple of times in the 1980's & 90's and it was so depressing.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    The Pomona, I mean. Last time I went in the Fir Tree, it seemed a bit rough.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just got back from seeing an old mate who lives in Delph near Oldham.
    The subject of the Pomona Inn at Reddish lane, and the landlady called Renee Rhythm cropped up.
    My mate told me she ran the first ever gay pub in Manchester (not the Rembrandt) and also ran the Northern Sporting Club in the Miles Platting/Ancoats area.
    He remembers her well, a real hard-case, but cannot remember the na... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Ye Foo Foo was a great entertainer, I remember going to see him a good few years back ,i was at a hen party, (His club was popular for this sort of thing) before his show the girls surrounded him and he made a big fuss of them, they seemed to think a lot of him, then when he went on stage dressed in drag, he would jokingly call them bitches for looking as glamourous as himself, he had relatives fa... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    It's funny Mary mentioned Frank Lamarr having a female following, it's perfectly true, and I always thought it was because women felt very safe and un-threatened in his company, much the same as today really.
    When I was a young Detective working in the Ancoats and Beswick area, the Police frequently laid on charity evenings to raise money for under-priveledged children in those areas (I am talkin... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes John I was going to mention I had heard Foo Foo was very giving, sounded like he was a good hearted fellow, I began to wish i had seen him more often, isn't it funny how you hear more of the good in people after they have died ?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just done some research:
    Frank Foo Foo Lamarr died aged 66 in 2003.
    Bunny Lewis died aged 71 in 2008.
    Few people know that Frank was a handy boxer, and could really look after himself, but a gentler, kinder Mancunian I never knew.
    He was a true gentleman, and I never heard anybody have a bad word for him - a sad loss.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Donna Barwick (Member 10269236) on 5-Jan-2012
    Hi I just came across this site whilst looking for the name Renee Rhythm. My father did relief for some time at the Pomona Pub, I think in 1986, I was about 10. We didnt know before living there but after a few days started to think the place was haunted. It was mainly lights, shadows, feeling something brush past on the stairs and the sound of a woman laughing in the concert room when the place... more >>

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Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Apr-2011
Did any of you kids from the 60's ever get a pushbike stolen? if you did, did you ever get the invite to go to Mill St, and go down stairs and see if it was there...if not pick one?   
  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
    Yeah, my little trusty was taken, still had its stabilisers on.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    I think that if the police did not find your bike, it would probably end up on Greymare lane market!!!!haha.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 8-Apr-2011
    Oh well, I guess thats put the 'mockers' on it then !!!! hehe

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    I was a detective at Mill Street Police Station between 1967 and 1979, and you're right, most stolen bikes finished up on Grey Mare Lane Market.
    When the cycle store got full up, we used to call all the local kids in, and give them a free bike.
    Happy Days.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    As detectives, we used to drink in the pub opposite the nick, it was called The Bradford - but the locals nicknamed it The Trough - where the pigs drank.
    All-in-all, we got on very well with the locals, all salt-of-the-earth blokes, and once a year we played cricket against them, or had a tug-of-war across some stinking canal in Ancoats, all for local kid's charities.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that... thought I may have had a senior moment...I can just about remember it.Funny how some things are vivid, and some a faint memory.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 12-Apr-2011
    Hi John
    The Bradford changed to some sort of sports pub but last year they demolished it, that another pub to bite the dust
    Dave

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Dave,
    I can't believe what the world is coming to, the Bradford demolished?
    I must have bought the equivalent of 50 bricks of that lovely building over the years, given the money I spent in there.
    The local lads were brilliant, mostly ex-miners from the old Bradford Pit down the road, and boy, could they drink!
    Another fine building ground to dust, we will never learn will we?
    Some numpty in ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mill Street Police Station had an old brick-built mortuary inside the cobbled rear-yard (used before the Central Mortuary was opened in Robert Street, Ancoats), and the local kids from Butterworth Street (at the back of the "nick"), would never go into the yard for fear of ghosts - which meant our hub-caps were safe at least.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Inside the "nick" it was all brass banisters and oak doors and lovely cream and green tiles up the walls - we used to say it looked like a Roman Bath with no water in it.
    In truth, the building must have cost a lot of money to build, and why is was pulled down I will never know - surely it could have been converted to offices or flats?
    Originally it had an Ambulance Station built into it and fac... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 6-May-2011
    My jnr school off Stockport Road was bombed, it was st Joseph's, am I right in thinking this is where the police building was later? there was a rumour going round amongst us kids that the later building was haunted.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Mary,
    I understand it started life as a Boy's Reform School, then became an Approved School and in the 1950's became a Police Station and Motor Garages for the (then) Manchester City Police.
    The Criminal Records Office, Recruiting, Tailoring,
    Bandroom, Serious Crime Squad, Stolen Car Squad, Regional Crime Squad and Police Cadet Corps, as well as the Fingerprint and Photographic Department were ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Graham Corbett (Member 10271490) on 9-Mar-2012
    John. Being a local copper in and around Gorton, did you ever know of a Patrick (Pat) Brady. He lived with his wife and two child in Trust Road on the Sutton estate from the late 50s to early 70's. I believe he too also worked out of Mill Street in the 1960's.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Stewart Adshead (Member 10283081) on 3-Mar-2013
    Graham, A very good friend of mine started his career at Belle Vue PS station, Eric Bradley he is now 61. Ring any bells??

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People by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
do the names Bibo Veevo Mariasa mean ring a bell to anyone. I think a Mariasa was in my class at Thomas Street Primary. I have been searching endlessly for a friend and her family with no results on planet earth... I have resorted to reporting them missing to the police along with a report of continuous interference in my life from a man from West Gorton , short stocky and with a limp. To those ... more >>   
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Gorton Baths by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Apr-2011
Are the baths still standing? I can remember going to above for a hot bath, we did not have hot water,central heating or owt like that.Couldn't you take your washing there to?   
  • Re: Gorton Baths by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-Apr-2011
    Hi John, no they were knocked down in 2007.
    A couple of years before that they were used as a Gymnastics centre for kids though.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 6-Apr-2011
    What sad news! I spent many an happy hour in the swimming baths, we went with Thomas St school every week. I remember how proud I was when I got my free pass for swimming so many lengths. Also, many fond memories of the wash baths, where you could hire soap and towel for a few pence. The woman in charge was very strict and shout for you to come out if she thought you'd been in too long!

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 6-Apr-2011
    The wash-house and hot baths were in the same building. I think for most women Monday was 'wash day' where as well as the washing they would enjoy a good gossip, and why not?

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-Apr-2011
    I believe they were subject to an arson attack by 2 teenage girls, and demolition was the only viable option.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Apr-2011
    My late Dad used to take my brother Chris and I every Friday night when we lived on Clowes Street, and his mate Billy RENWICK taught us both to swim.
    I still have my framed one length certificate dated
    1958.
    I rememeber it was two pence for a cup of steaming OXO after your swim, and Saturdays was bath day, six pence for a soap and towel, and as much cold water as you liked, but only after the ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-Apr-2011
    The Wash House was my Mum's weekly day out in the 60's and early 70's. She just enjoyed the company. She would push a pram full of washing from Suttons Estate to Gorton Wash House. If our dog was out it would follow her, so to keep it safe from the traffic she would put Shep on the pram on top of the washing where the dog would look proud.

    Sometimes, mum and a neighbour would make it a real tre... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 7-Apr-2011
    I have loads of memories of Gorton baths brought back reading other comments. I too was taught to swim there with Thomas Street and also the cubs.
    Openshaw Tech had the house swimming Gala there as did the cubs when i was about 10. The memories I treasure most are of going with my late Dad early on a Sunday morning, that was a real treat.
    Dave

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 8-Apr-2011

    My Mam went to the wash-house every Saturday. She had a pram load of clothes. When she came home, everything was put on the clothes rack up on the ceiling, remember those, brilliant idea really.
    The wash-baths...that was a Saturday afternoon ritual for us. Although, I have to say I enjoyed the days when the galvanized tub ( hung on wall in air-raid shelter ) was brought in and we'd have a b... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 8-Apr-2011
    Hi Irene. Yes, and we all shared the same water. I remember pans and kettles of hot water being brought from the kitchen to fill it up. Due to the metallic tub, the water appeared grimy before anyone had bathed in it so it didn't look any dirtier when 5 of us had used it. Mum always used Fairy Household soap in almost brick size bars, and it didn't smell that good. No bathroom though of course.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    Pete and Irene,
    I remember those circular galvanised tubs only too well, and the soap? It was like carbolic acid, stung your eyes like mad, and when it dried, it had cracks in it and sharp edges you cut cut you fingers on!
    Palmolive was green and Sunlight was kind of whitish yellow, both were none-too-gentle on the skin, but they got the filth off us kids.
    Friday night was always bath night in ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 9-Apr-2011
    I was born in 1937 and I was twenty before I saw an inside loo. Now, I have three to clean.
    We didn't miss what we'd never had though did we.
    Going outside to the loo toughed up us too... Brrr....

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 9-Apr-2011
    Wonderful days. Would I go back? Only as an observer. :-)

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 10-Apr-2011
    Nor would I.Still, we can laugh about about 'em now can't we!

  • Re: Gorton Baths by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 16-Apr-2011
    Does anyone remember Mr Jackson the swimming teacher at Gorton Baths he had a son called John who swam for the England schools swimming team

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember as a young Policeman at Gorton Police Station on Hyde Road being called to an Intruder Alarm activation at Gorton Wash-House, next to Gorton Baths, in the middle of the night.
    As I walked in with the key-holder, I shone my torch and saw that there were literally thousands of black-jacks scurrying across the concrete floor.
    Needless to say, I got out pretty quickly.
    One of the things ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 7-Sep-2011
    Harold I remember Mr Jackson . It seemed like he had been at Gorton baths for ever.I dont know if he took a dislike to me but when I took my life saving badge he put me with the tallest guy he could find.9I was on the small sideThe guy was called Colin Brierly, I dont know if anybody remembers him.

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Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 3-Apr-2011
what ever happened to the Books family on Parkdale Road? I was an old friend of Robert.   
  • Re: Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    Parkdale Ave Val, Hilary, Rose,Robert,Linda Brooks?

  • Re: Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    My step grandad was cyril Parkinson also from Gorton born about 1920? one of four boys youngest left home to live with a women from Bolton

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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
J.F Kennedy's Assassination: November 1963:
I had travelled from Belle Vue, Gorton to Queens Road, Cheetham Hill on the 53 bus that afternoon with my school-mate Tom BILLINGTON, and we walked to the Bowling Alley round the corner on Cheetham Hill Road, it was in a converted cinema.
Halfway through our game, around tea-time, there was a radio announcement that Kennedy had been shot dead in Dallas... more >>
  
  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Manchester United Air Crash: February 1958:
    I was at home on Clowes Street in the evening when my Dad William HOLMES came in with the Manchester Evening News that told the story of the crash.
    This would have been the day after, and the news stunned the whole of West Gorton, as well as the rest of Manchester.
    I remember my Dad was in tears as he read the paper, and we talked about this a lot whe... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Queen Elizabeth's Coronation: June 1953:
    I was a tiny youngster at St Marks' on Clowes Streetwhen the coronation took place on 2nd June that year.
    I remember that the main street party near us was in Spurgeon Street off William Street, and when my mother collected me from school, I saw all the trestle tables laid out with butties, cakes and drinks, with colourful bunting criss-crossing the stree... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Sweets Coming Off Rationing: February 1953:
    I was a child living at 126 Clowes Street, West Gorton when sweets came off post-war rationing on 5th February.
    Although I could not remember the date then, I remember the announcement, and my brother Christopher and I went to the sweet-shop that stood on the opposite side of Clowes Street, on its corner with William Street, facing St Mark's church.
    A... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Taking the Eleven-Plus Examination: 1959:
    I can't remember the date exactly, it must have been early on in the year, but I remember walking to Openshaw Technical High School near Ashbury's Station with my mate from St. Mark's, Keith (Fudgie) BROOKS to sit the exam.
    I remember that all the ten year olds from St Marks' went to the same location that year to sit the Eleven-Plus, but for the life of... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Manchester City's FA Cup Win: May 1956:
    I was never a Man City fan, but can remember feeling proud when they beat Birmingham City 3-1 at Wembley on 5th May that year.
    My Dad was a bigger Red than me, but he took me to Manchester's London Road Railway Station (later to be demolished and re-built as Manchester's Piccadilly Railway Station)when Man City brought the FA Cup back to the City on the tr... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Man's First Landing on the Moon: 1969:
    Like most other families, we were huddled round the little black and white TV in our "best room" when Neil ARMSTRONG landed on the moon.
    It was quite unreal, and as young children my brother Christopher and I could not really grasp what had happened, and the achievment was only appreciated by me years later.
    On the date of the moon landing, we were living ... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 3-Apr-2011
    Re the Moon Landing, neighbours in Trust Road squeezed into one house to see it in colour on a colour set, and the damned thing was in black and white anyway. I recall there was a delay of about 3 hours from the time they were due to land so we went out to play for a couple of hours.

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Moon Landing, did it actualy happen? or was it another conspiracy.mmmmmmmmmmmmm Must stop them bloody tablets.haha.I was in Morecambe visiting my sister, she just had a baby on the 18july.

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by Dennis Barker (Member 10261276) on 12-May-2011
    Manchester City Cup Final Win...
    I was there in 1955 when they played most of the game with 10 men (no subs allowed) and lost 3-1 to Newcastle then back again in 1956 to beat Brum 3-1 and hoist the Cup.

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The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Mar-2011
Anybody remember Cyril Shelmerdine's Mace shop, next to Les Page the Butcher,and opposite The Newsagents on Gorton Lane.? He was in the R.A.F during the war,bomber command and according to rumour was shot down.!!! any info please.ta.   
  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hiya John, yes I remember a mate of mine Peter Plant, saying he had got a part time job at a grocers called Shelmerdine's on Gorton Lane. He started doing Saturday's then began doing most nights after school at Bishop Greer, he did mention something about him being an ex RAF pilot and having a sports car late in life.
    Peter went on to being the manager of the Tesco's at Openshaw and Stalybridge last I heard.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 29-Mar-2011
    Well it's a small world....I followed Peter into that same job,I was at B/G with Peter too, forgot about him,thanks.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    Were you in the same year as us then, only I don't remember your name.
    Others in our class were:-
    Stuart Milner, Chris Penson, Mike Evans and Vivian Hannon who I was with through Primary school as well. Dennis Allen, Dave Mc Intyre, Chris Owen, Peter Hulley, Tony Boden.
    Lesley Mellor, Janice Ashworth, Lynn Rowlinson, Lynn Stanley, Gillian Smith, Ann Thompson.

    In the same year but differe... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 30-Mar-2011
    non of the above sorry!!name I remember are,Eddie Riley,Billy Young, Malcolm Alcock,Derek Beamish,Dave o'Shaunessy jimmy Pledger.Sue Pearson,Gale Clay,Agnes ?,Doreen Elms,and the first black lass in the school..Absa Drameh,who ended up my girl freind, Teresa Minchion...Any Help.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 31-Mar-2011
    Hi John.
    Looking at those names I only recognise Derek Beamish's, but I think he was a couple of years above me. There was also a Sharon o'Shaunessy in our class now come to think of it.
    Peter Plant had an older brother at B.G, about 2 or 3 years above me named Alan. Did you know him? he went working as a Cabinet Maker when he left.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 31-Mar-2011
    Derek married Aggie Foster class room romance,they are still together. Derek used to live on that row of houses next to the steelworks pub, opposit the Bessemere pub on Taylor street corner. Cant remember others sorry.
    Can you remember when the headmaster Mr.Sutherland slapped Dave O'Shaunessy on the stage in a school assembly??? couldn't do it these days,mores the pity!!!

  • Re: The Mace Shop by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-May-2011
    The first message in this section makes mention of Les PAGE, a butcher on Gorton Lane.
    I knew him well, he was the younger brother of Mrs ELLOR who was married to an ex-Policeman Mr ELLOR who ran that newsagency.
    I courted their daughter, Janet ELLOR, in 1964, who was of course Les PAGE's niece, and a very nice man.
    I often wonder what happened to him and to the ELLOR family, particularly Janet... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 10-Jun-2011
    Hello John,
    I,m a fellow Gortonian and new to the site.
    My family lived in Whittaker St, off Gorton Lane,
    My dads local was the Steelework's Tavern,and his best friend was Jack Beamish, he lived on that row of houses next to the Steeleworks pub, so Derek must be his son, I believe he had a sister named Pamela, only yesterday I was going through some old family photo's and I came across
    a weddi... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Kathleen Parker (Member 10257688) on 20-Jul-2012
    Hi Ive just seen your thread about Jack Beamish , I see Dereks wife Agnes now and then she works in Hyde so if you want me to pass a message on I will do thanks

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Roger Lee (Member 10284447) on 7-Apr-2013
    This is my first post to this site. I well remember Cyril Shelmerdine, though not as the Mace Shop. Perhaps that came after me! I worked for him from '61 to '64, as his order boy. He was a great bloke, and his wife a lovely woman. I was born and bred in Beyer St., and the back gate of our back yard faced on to the row of shops that included Shelmerdines, Broxton's Greengrocers, the Barbers Topping... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Roger Lee (Member 10284447) on 20-Apr-2014
    Regarding the two postings re Derek Beamish, he is/was my cousin. His mother May was a sister of my mother Elsie, and I well remember Derek, his sister Pam, and their older brother John. I think there were two more siblings, but don't remember their names. I also remember their father Jack, and his brother Jim, who lived with them at the house down the cutting from the Steelworks. Happy Gorton day... more >>

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Account Delete by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 23-Mar-2011
Hello, Could anyone tell me how I can delete my knowhere.co.uk account, cheers.   
  • Re: Account Delete by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 23-Mar-2011
    Its not obvious so I suggest you click on the "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page, in there is a section titled "correct/update" and follow the instructions and contact them with your request. Hope this helps.

  • Re: Account Delete by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 23-Mar-2011
    Thanks Dave, i will try that.

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Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 22-Mar-2011
Hi does anyone know anything of the Lamb family Lived in Walnut Street until 1967/8 I ask as I know hardly anything about my family..
Any information appreciated
Peter
  
  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 24-Mar-2011
    Hi Peter
    I am not sure if it is the same Lamb's that I have a slight connection with .
    I know of a Grace Lamb dont know her maiden name who I know had a couple of sons and a daughter she married a Bob Skarratt.
    Both Grace and Bob are no longer with us, but the two sons are around I heard in the Denton area.
    Might not be the ones you are looking for but I have heard of the lambs and that they ... more >>

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 24-Mar-2011
    Thomas Lamb lorries on Wellington St was taken over by his daughter Vera Lamb when her dad died, I've never known if they were really a Gorton family though.
    She married a Polish man Julian Geboly, and lived on a a farm in Woodford in the 50's - 60's, the firm went into liquidation early in 1969.
    I'm intrigued now to see if there is a link?

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi Paul
    Grace Lamb ( lamb being her married name) dont know her maiden name, but her husband might have been called Robert or Ernie as they had two sons named Robert and Ernie. Grace was from Gorton and rests in Gorton cemetery
    Grace later married a Skarratt, dont know what her ex husband did or does, but their two sons I think are around possibly the Denton area.

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi thanks for that, some more details, my father was called George and my mother Irene. I never got to find anything out about my family as my mother was not keen to talk about it..

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi
    I am sure the name George Lamb has been mentioned on here , lets keep trying .... julie

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Thnk I was thinking George Lamb the actor, off Eastenders with Tv presenter son Larry or the other way round .... yes the other way round

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Mar-2011
    Sure it wasn't Joe Lamb from West Gorton, he's been mentioned a few times?

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi Kate , it could be Joe Lamb that I have seen on here.
    A Peter Lamb is wanting info on the Lambs maybe they are his relatives

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 26-Mar-2011
    Thanks for replies to my question.. I believe my great grandfather was a Thomas Lamb married to a Gertrude Lamb and that my grandfather was a George William Lamb who was a driver in the army and died in 1943 when my father was a kid. Whether this is the same Tommy Lamb as the Gorton firm I do not know.

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 11-Jun-2011
    Lamb family,
    Re Joe Lamb mentioned by another member,
    I remember Joe Lamb he was a friendly man,when I was about 8 I would often pass Joe on my way to All Saints school, he would be walking down Laurence Street, and would offer me an orange he alway's seemed to have oranges and always greeted me and the kids by saying "hello my old cock sparrow" he was very overweight and use to wear white plim... more >>

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doctors by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 22-Mar-2011
does any body remember dr ross on gorton lane near peacock st school or dr levy at mount rd surgery. i remember these 2 because they both smoked cigars when you went to see them   
  • Re: doctors by David McWilliams (Member 10258333) on 22-Mar-2011
    Danny, I don't remember these doctors but my doctor was Dr Devlin on Hyde Road near the railway bridge. He also smoked and had bottle of whiskey on his desk which he drank in front of you !

  • Re: doctors by julie (Member 10255407) on 22-Mar-2011
    Yeah I remember Dr Levy he was my doctor when I was a child

  • Re: doctors by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 22-Mar-2011
    Yes, I too recall Dr. Levy, and indeed a Dr. Smith at the sugery on Mount Rd. As a youngster, these were our family doctors. I also used to attend this surgery for sunlight treatment after a serious illness. I can also remember most of the shops and proprietors that used to be on this stretch of Mount Rd.

  • Re: doctors by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Anyone remember Dr.Scott and Dr.Reynolds on Clowes Street?
    Dr. Scott had gold=rimmed glasses and was a kind and quiet man who looked after West Gorton;s sick for many many years.
    Anyone remember a Dr. Valdez at all?
    I think he may have had a surgery on Belle Vue Street, West Gorton, but am not sure.
    I remember him coming to see me as a child about 1954 when I lived at 126 Clowes Street, and he... more >>

  • Re: doctors by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hi John, I remember Dr Scott and Dr Reynalds very well at the Clowes St surgery. Dr Scott moved to Wenlock way medical centre with Dr Valdez,I believe there was also a Dr Kay and a Dr Bijral in that practice.
    Dave

  • Re: doctors by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    That's right John, Dr Valdez had a surgery on Belle Vue St near "Dutton's for Buttons" almost facing the phone boxes. We lived in Coventry St round the corner from the surgery, but my doctor was Dr Broman on Hyde Rd near the bottom of Clowes St, before his son took over and moved into the new West Gorton Centre.

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Happy St. Paddy's Day! by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 17-Mar-2011

Here in the US, St.Patrick's Day is a big deal, everyone is Irish.
So, with my tongue firmly pressed into my cheek, I post the following link.
Enjoy........I hope!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
  
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bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Mar-2011
What about the longest bus route in the world, Jerusalem to Africa???? the 53? minimax. Was it Queens Rd Cheethamhill to Brookes bar or Old Trafford.Now that was a bus ride worth everypenny of the sixpence you had to pay.lol.   
  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Yes it was it used to go all the way through Rusholme too it was a great ride , it covered all the different nationalities on its route , well woth the sixpence

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Mar-2011
    Yes sorry I'm not trying to offend, but your right I forgot about the Asian part of" The longest route".You could watch the world go by from the bus,nose pressed up against the wndow.

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Mar-2011
    And they always arrived in 3's

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Lol Peter, your right , that long stretch now known as the curry mile ( fabulous ) used to be all shops and pubs .
    Turn right onto Dikenson Rd think the pub there was called the Birch Villa go to the top and you had the market just as you approached Stockport Road.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Dickenson Road rather

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Hey who remebers OCEAN 11 night club later to become Genivives ?

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    gosh my spelling is pants today (Genevieves)

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 16-Mar-2011
    Hi Julie,
    I remember Oceans 11 well, I think it was the first time I had chicken in a basket.I used to go to the Southern Sporting club on Birch Street. The Embassy, the Domino and its sister club the Princess Club. I remember going into the Palm Court at Belle Vue before going to the Domino, when a man asked if he could sit at our table, it was Dave Berry on his way to perform at the Domino an... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Brilliant Dave , I actually never went in when it was oceans 11 but I remember my mother did , I did go in when it was Genevieves then the name changed again later . cant remember it now .
    Do you remember the Talk of the North lol

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    The Ritz (Brilliant)

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    OH and Valentines in Chorlton with FOO FOO Frank Lamar

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    OH and Valentines in Chorlton with FOO FOO Frank Lamar

  • Re: bus routes by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 16-Mar-2011
    Is anybody old enough to remember that
    Genevieve's used to be a roller skating rink and the Southern Sportintg club used to be the Corona picture house?

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Hi Kate , I just remember it being a dico, easy to get in when not quite 18 lol

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    OOOOPS pardon me ...... I mean disco

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Mar-2011
    It was easy to get in Genevieves, but not so easy to get out as your feet stuck to the carpet. But having specials like 12p for vodka and 15p for lager when it was about 25p and 28p respectively in the pubs was a great attraction. I can never remember getting home from there.

    There used to be a joint advert in the MEN for Genevieves, Kloisters and Jillys advertising their prices. The beer and l... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Mar-2011
    I remember the Corona well before it became the Southern Sporting Club, it was quite nice till someone rolled a lighted bottle of petrol down to the front from the back, how dangerous was that?
    The place was evacuated and the Fire brigade came and put out the fire on the carpet.
    It took the place a month to replace the carpet, they just cut off the crusty bits and left it.
    Funnily enough, the p... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Mar-2011
    The 53 ran from the junction of Queens Road and Cheetham Hill Road all the way to Henshaw's School for the Blind at Old Trafford.
    What a route that was.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Mar-2011
    The 109 ran from the Bull's Head at Reddish Lane all the way to Piccadilly via Hyde Road, Wellington Street, Gorton Lane, Clowes Street, Hyde Road, Ardwick Green and Downing Street.
    Great journey too.

  • Re: bus routes by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 17-Mar-2011
    The 109 bus route brings back many happy memories of trips from our home in Gorton to the metropolis of M/C city centre! One of the funniest was a trip I took the year after leaving school with an old schoolfriend to a class reunion. She had just passed her test and picked me up in her new motor (parents owned 2 cake shops Slater's on Cambert Lane and opposite Brookhouse flats). Off we tootled ou... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 17-Mar-2011
    GENIVIEVES NAME CHANGED TO THE STING, I WENT THERE THURSDAY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY , I SEEN THE GROUP ODYSSEY THERE FOR ABOUT A FIVER ,

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 17-Mar-2011
    SLATERS CAKE SHOP WAS ON PARKERS ST NEXT TO HUMPHRIES COAL YARD AND THE ONE FACING BROOKHOUSE FLATS WAS BOUGHT OFF SLATERS BY MY NANNA AND THEN SHARPLES BOUGHT IT

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    Quite a busy social life then Danny.
    The Sting I remember now, did it then become a snooker hall , has it been demolished now

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 17-Mar-2011
    Julie I remember the Talk of the North well it is not long since they demolished the old building.
    I remember going to The Carona, The Essoldo, The Conway we lived in C on M for a year and I remember the Kings, Queens, Shaftsbury and the Eagle all on Stockport Road.
    What about the No 33 bus ( Limited Stop) that went all the way to Greave (Romiley) It seemed a million miles away. Never thought I ... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 17-Mar-2011
    I DONT REMEBER IT BECOMING A SNOOKER HALL BUT IS NOW AN ASIAN SUPERMARKET, BUT DO YOU REMEMBER THE SOUTHERN SPORTING CLUB BEING CALLED THE MAYFLOWER

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 17-Mar-2011
    Dave, just by the entrance to the Foresters, there is a stone with an inscription that says YPOL. I heard that was to do with a former disagreement with the then landlord and the resident, and stands for "You P*** Off Landlord". Do you know if that's true?

    I go in there when I am out walking around Werneth Lowe. We used to go regularly when they did cheap steaks on hot griddle plates.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    I just heard that it had become a snooker hall , but a super market thats more fitting.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    **** FASHION ****
    Skinners, monkey boots, Dr Martins I had the cheery red, two tone pants with a razor sharp crease , the black crombi with the lancashire rose on the pocket, how smart was fashion back then

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    Going back to the 60's teddy jackets and skinny jeans they were lovely

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 17-Mar-2011
    Pete, I lived there mid to late 70's and can't remember that stone, must have been the bitter.
    Lived in Gee Cross for about 10 years, what a great Saturday night walk about visiting the pubs in the village.
    Spent many a happy hour with my kids up and about the Lowe, great place to bring them up.
    Dave

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 18-Mar-2011
    Hi Dave, the pubs are surviving in Gee Cross, although the Queen Adelaide keeps shutting & re-opening. I think doing food is the key. That stone is on the wall of the old farm premises facing the rear entrance to the pub, on your right as you drive in.

    I live in Haughton Green and walk up the Lowe once a week. On some days you can see Mount Snowdon, and with binos it can look as if it's actuall... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 18-Mar-2011
    Back to the subject of bus routes, we used to take bottles back to the shop and if we got threppence, we would catch the 73 bus around Melland Road/Hemsworth Road estate. When it got to the terminus at the Essoldo, we would hide under the seats and get a free ride around again. Kids today wouldn't see any attraction though.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 18-Mar-2011
    I can remember hiding on the that bus too.
    It used to go all round the houses just to go a few yards further up the road.
    I used to get on it on it Melland road wembley road just to get to levenshulme road only a few yards 5 mins walk if that , but the bus as you said went a route that took ages, it was our entertainment then

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 18-Mar-2011
    off subject a little but does any body remember the kids discos at suttons club , you had to be 13 or older the dj was called ian the fuzz

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 18-Mar-2011
    also the zooby doo at belle vue

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 18-Mar-2011
    Lol I remember the zooby doo, I was a regular at Suttons doing the Tap and ballet classesand the anual show

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-Mar-2011
    Gee Cross Friends:
    Dear Gee Crossers - do any of you remember a painters and decorator's shop that was in Gee Cross, Hyde in the 60's and 70's?
    It was owned by a family called ROBINSON.
    They had two daughters, but I cannot remember their names at all.
    My brother and I met them on a caravan site when we were all kids in Penmaenmawr, North Wales.
    Let me know please?
    John.

  • Re: bus routes by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 19-Mar-2011
    Iremember the 109 bus route (we could do with it back)i used to work nights in Salford and i got the the 109 from Deansgate and i used to go upstairs for a smoke and many a time i would fall asleep and wake up at Houldsworth Sq.but after a few weeks the driver used to give me a shout at the Gardeners,i also remember going to the pics at the Corona,Olympia,Essoldo,Cosmo,there was also a picture hou... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 20-Mar-2011
    Harold,
    I think it was the Savoy!

  • Re: bus routes by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 20-Mar-2011
    Thanks Kate your spot on

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 21-Mar-2011
    Hi John
    My ex wife was from Gee Cross and I remember one of her friends from school was called Janet Robinson she also lived in Gee Cross Does that ring a bell I think she had a sister.I can't remember a decorator shop in Gee Cross though.
    Dave

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 22-Mar-2011
    My favourite bus route as a young Gortonian was the No. 19. This ran from Droylsden (either Greenside Lane or Droylsden Station via Openshaw,Abbey Hey,Gorton (Mount Rd.),then Levenshulme to West Didsbury. The buses were numbered 19B or 19E depending on whether they ran via Burnage Lane or Errwood Rd, the route reconverging at Green End. I have some old photos of the Crossley or Leyland single deck... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Mar-2011
    For Dave WRIGHT:
    Thanks for getting back with the Gee Cross thing.
    I have spoken to our kid and he believes that one of the sisters was called Margaret and one of them died quite young.
    Will wrack my brains and try to get a definitive answer on the sisters' names.
    Thanks again Dave,
    John.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    I used to catch either the 169 or 170 from outside the Essoldo Cinema on Mount Road each Saturday morning on my way to play school rugby at Parr's Wood, Didsbury.
    Both buses ran through Levenshulme and Burnage and I used to get off at Kingsway, where I got another bus up to Parr's Wood.
    Happy days.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    Remember the buses that ran down Hyde Road to Manchester?
    The 57, 77, 210 and 211.
    Anyone remember any more than those four?

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    Remember the Night Bus Services out of Manchester?
    What a life-saver they were?
    When you think about it, how did taxis make any money?
    The Night Service Buses were a real Godsend.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    Remember when the 210 and 211 down Hyde Road were electric trolley buses, and when the trolley on top used to come off the electric cables?
    The conductors used to pull out long poles with hooks on the end that used to be stored in long tubes under the buses, and which were accessed at the back of the bus underneath the platform.
    They used these long poles to hook the wires back onto the trolleys... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 1-Apr-2011
    Hi John. I have used these bus servises many times in the past, The 210,211 were operated by Manchester Corporation, the 57,77 by Salford Corpoation, and the 57 ran from Thornley Park (near Debdale) to Salford bus station. There was also a No 8. This was a limited stop service from Manchester to Hyde. S.H.M.D also ran a service along Hyde Rd.to the Hyde/Duckinfield area, but I cannot remember the ... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 2-Apr-2011
    When I was at St. Franny's I had a mate called Steve Harney, all he ever wanted to do when he left school was to be a bus driver.Think he achieved this in time,...Kevin Loftus another class mate lived in the pub opposit Hyde Rd bus garage...What was that pub called??? where are they now????

  • Re: bus routes by barrie roberts (Member 10256887) on 2-Apr-2011
    Hi John i think the pub faceing the bus depot was called the Star
    Barrie

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Apr-2011
    Roy/John:
    Great memories Roy, I too remember the No. 19, but for the life of me I cannot remember the route it took, and am happy to join you Roy in the Old Gits Club!!
    Something tells me it went to Levenshulme, but perhaps someone will know mate.
    John, the pub opposite the bus depot on Hyde Road was indeed The Star, and if my memory serves me right, it was faced with yellowish tiles, would tha... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Apr-2011
    Barrie,
    Hope you and Dave are both well mate?
    What would you give to walk through West Gorton today and see it exactly as it was when we were kids?
    I think I would like to have a pint in all the pubs I never went in all those years ago, but not on the same day eh Barrie?
    John and Chris Holmes.

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that pub name..... I was never in it.Good job you wasn't relying on me this time I thought it had something to do with a horse !!!!
    Once got the 53 bus in Gorton at night to go to Brookes bar, fell asleep and the bus driver awoke me in the Brookesfied garage? just off Dickenson Rd.what a laugh now,dont know who was more scared.haha.

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Apr-2011
    John If you are referring to the No 19 bus route,I clearly remember it. From Belle Vue, it went via Mount Rd past Spurley Hey and into Levenshulme. At the junction of Cromwell Rd and Stockport Rd, it turned left into Albert Rd. the 19E went next left into Marshall Rd then along Errwood Rd to Green End. The 19B went via Burnage Ln to Green End then Burnage Lane, over Kingsway, Fog Ln, Lapwing Ln to... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Apr-2011
    To John Carleton. That depot would be Birchfields

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Roy,
    Brilliant memory about the Number 19 bus, spot on.
    It's funny, I must have ridden it dozens of times yet for the life of me I could not recollect the route it took, thanks again Roy.
    Glad you got the Gorton book, well done.
    Can you imagine how shocked I was to find a photo of my Dad in there when I opened it up?
    He had sadly died several years before and it was a very strange mome... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 3-Apr-2011
    It's a pity we can't post actual pictures on here but here's the next best thing. This link shows "The Star" taken on "Google Street Image" about 2 years back.

    http://bit.ly/heY7yb

    I think the place is still empty now, but what a great detatched house it would make, it will probably get turned into flats though.

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Thanks Roy...Well it was a long time ago.it's nowt to do with any mental illness,just cant remember EVERYTHING. ta,haha

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 19-Apr-2011
    Re the 53 bus minimax. What was 'minimax' all about? I was only a kid at the time, but I remember that. Ideas anyone?

  • Re: bus routes by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 20-Apr-2011
    The minimax fare. Short for minimum/maximum fare.In other words a "flat" fare. When introduced it was, I think, 6d.

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 20-Apr-2011
    Thanks Bill. It makes sense on the 53 route as it was so busy, and taking a straight fare saved time for the drivers following the disappreance of conductors.

  • Re: bus routes by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 21-Apr-2011
    Buses which ran along Hyde Road. 33- Chorlton Street to Romiley or Greave (we used to call it the long range 109) 57- Thornley Park to Swinton. 77- Bull's Head Reddish to Swinton via Pendlebury (Both these services jointly operated by Manchester Corporation Transport and Salford City Transport.) 125- Chorlton St to Glossop. 210- Piccadilly to Hyde Gee Cross. I don't remember a 211 service. Where... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 21-Apr-2011
    Sorry, the 109 ran from Victoria Station not Piccadilly

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 21-Apr-2011
    Hi Bill

    The 211 would go to Hattersley estate whereas the 210 was Gee Cross.

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 21-Apr-2011
    oceans 11, memories, I also used to visit the said den. used to see Les Kellet there often in the crowd.on stage....George Roper,Bernard Manning, you could not go for a pee while they were on cause you got ripped to bits by them. The Grumbleweeds,etc. And yes the Chicken was tasty.I think. ha,ha.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Does anyone remember when buses had a driver AND a conductor?
    One abiding memory of mine was when the conductor would get off at certain bust stops and stamp a time-card in a machine.
    I presume these were to ensure buses ran on time - and they probably did!
    They always seemed very well-mannered , both drivers and conductors, not like some of the grumpy old buggers you seem to get on buses these days!

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 26-Apr-2011
    Hello again John. I recall very well the time when there were Drivers and Conductors. At one time the conductor were known as `guards`. Uniforms were quite smart then, and on the epaulettes were a number on one side, and Driver or Guard on the other. I still have an Aunt living in Openshaw, and her ex husband was a bus guard. his name was Bill Sandham, and his driver was Bernard.and distinctly rem... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Apr-2011
    Hi mate,
    Great memories.
    My mother was one of the women who transferred into men's jobs during the war and was a "clippie" on the Manchester trams.
    I remember the Night Buses coming out of Manchester along Hyde Road, the crews were great blokes, always having a laugh to keep the passengers quiet, and very respectful, they were very special men.

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 7-May-2011
    Re all night buses. They opersted along Stockport Rd. as well. After we moved to Levenshulme, my Mum was ill for a while, and a couple of times, I used this service to go to an all night Chemist near St Peters Square for her medication.

  • Re: bus routes by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 14-Jun-2011
    That chemist was Boots

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monks by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-Mar-2011
Although I went to Bishop Greer school, I did attend St.Franny's for 6mnths. Mr. Tobin was head. my teacher was Mr.McDonald. Question is what haappened to the monks,and when did the school close.? Still no foto's of Bishop Greer people...come on help me here please.   
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St Marks school West Gorton by Ivy Shaw (Member 10258892) on 7-Mar-2011
I was at St Marks until 1948. I have no photos of my time there but recognise some of my friends in Jill Cronin's book on Gorton. My brother Ronnie also went there. My sister Betty(Elizabeth) was a pupil but tragically died aged 11. Sadly I have no photos of her either and would love to hear if anyone else has. I remember Ian McConnel and Walter Carr, Doreen Carr and her sisters who lived in... more >>   
  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    I used to have friends on Greenwood house flats in Longsite in the 70's

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    Still looking for info on the landlady/ landlord of the Three Arrows pub Hyde Road in the 60/70's

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    The Landlady at that time is no longer with us but her husband possibly Ray Clarke I believe is will be about 75/80 ish , has a daughter Theresa its her I am looking for .... julie

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 9-Mar-2011
    Ivy,
    I was at St Marks with my brother Chris, from 1952 to 1959 (1961 for our kid).
    You mentioned the Beaumont family from William Street?
    Did they have a brother Eddie Beaumont, as I remember his name from school?
    John.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Ivy Shaw (Member 10258892) on 13-Mar-2011
    To John Holmes,member 10245597
    the Beaumont twins lived in Deepdene street, (late Hampden Street)
    They had a cousin Ronnie Hawkes who lived with the twins' sister next to us in William Street (where St Marks was)later called Hoyland Street. According to Jill Cronin and Frank Rhodes book on Gorton the twins had younger brothers called Fred and Frank TORR; there are photos in the book. I don... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Mar-2011
    Ivy,
    Thank you for this information.
    I lived on Clowes Street on its corner with William (Hoyland) Street, 1947-1960.
    I don't recognise the names you mentioned, but I knew only a few families in William Street.
    Will ask our kid Christopher and see what he knows.
    Thanks again Ivy, it's very kind of you.
    John.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Did anyone swing on a rope from the lamp-post that stood right outside the school gates on William (Hoyland) Street, opposite Spurgeon Street?
    There was a small steel mesh barrier underneath the street-lamp to stop kids running right out of the school gates and into William Street.
    Spurgeon Street was a designated Play Street in the 1950's and held a street party on the occasion of the Queen's C... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hi John
    I remember the lamp post and the mesh barrier well. I used to climb onto the barrier and jump up to one of the arms sticking out of the lamp post. I then used to swing like a trapeze artist back and forth until one day when the cast iron arm completely snapped off and I ended up landing with my stomach hitting the barrier and creasing me in two, talk about being winded. I just lay on the ... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    What also sticks in my mind about the Williams St playground was blue painted tubing in one corner with hooks welded to it, I never did see them ever get used for anything in the 7 years I was at the school though.
    There was also 4 concrete steps in the same area leading up to French Windows to a classroom, I can only remember seeing those doors opened on probably 2 occasions.
    There was a big b... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Apr-2011
    There was a corridor with a door at each end that ran from the playground in William Street to the playground in Robert Street, and the corridor was dark, damp and with a wooden plank floor.
    Years before plastic bags were even thought of, hessian sacks were used to bag up and store most things - I am talking about the 1955 era.
    There was a drive by the old Milk Marketing Board to encourage schoo... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 3-Apr-2011
    WOW !! What a memory you've got John.

    It was Sept '60 when I started at St Mark's, I remember looking at that painting of Jesus holding a lantern about to enter a doorway, each morning in assembly. And being convinced it was really the door to St Mark's church, I must have thought back then it was an actual photo they had taken of the event, ha, ha.
    When you were there did they ever use that u... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 4-Apr-2011
    Bennett St pitch

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 4-Apr-2011
    For some reason I can't get the link to work this time, but it's on .....
    images.manchester.gov.uk
    Ref No, m10880

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Apr-2011
    Paul,
    That painting on St Marks' school hall wall was called "The Light of the World" and is quite famous.
    The original hangs in the Manchester Art Gallery I understand.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Apr-2011
    The two worst teachers of all time? - Mrs Clayton and Mr Platt, and the best ever, the lovely Mrs Butterworth, who taught me the pleasures of the
    English language.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 10-Apr-2011
    I remember Mr Platt being on playground duty in the Infants yard on William St, it must have been around 1962. I don't know what the lad had done but he called him over, told him to bend over and swung at him with a cricket bat. The bat broke leaving just the handle in his hands, he must have known he'd over done it and tried to lighten the situation a bit by saying look what you've done to my bes... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 10-Apr-2011
    Another thing has just come to mind, one of my uncle's who went to Nichol's school in the late 40's. Once told me Mr Platt was teaching there before moving on to St Mark's.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Paul,
    Platt was a sadistic bully, and if alive today I hope he reads these things and hangs his head in shame.
    You read of teachers being investigated for abusing school-children years before, well if there was ever a law against pure physical abuse and violence towards children, Platt would be under investigation today - what a disgraceful human being he really was.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember incurring the wrath of Mrs Clayton, who caught me running through the girl's toilets in the William Street side of the playground.
    She actually pulled my short trousers down and smacked my bottom in front of a load of girls.
    I never did it again!
    That would have been about 1956.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember when the Lord Mayor, Leslie Lever, visited the school around 1957.
    What a fuss was made, you would have thought that Royalty was in town!
    I remember thinking he was a very important person, but who remembers him today? - nobody.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 26-Apr-2011
    John... I remember a time Mrs Clayton stormed into Junior 3 and ordered a new teacher Mr Brown, outside where we kids could hear them having a right argument. Next thing he told her "he didn't expect to be spoken to like that" collected his jacket and briefcase and walked out, leaving her to sort out a teacher less class. From then on J.3 and J.4 were taught together by Mr Platt, this would have b... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Apr-2011
    Paul,
    I always think that both Clayton and Platt were despicable people, who bullied rather than taught, she was just a frustrated old dame and he was a sadist with a sick mind - how they managed to be teachers always baffled me.
    Years after I left, I was a young uniformed Policeman walking along Hyde Road when Platt was walking towards me.
    There was a flicker of recognition in his eyes, but I ... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 26-Apr-2011
    I imagined I had remembered alot about my St Mark's days, but you've just opened up more for me that I'd totaly forgotten. Now you mention it that "Science Room" was used more as an art room for us aswell 10 years later, and the strong smell of Hyancynths being grown in those funny tall vases I'd forgotten untill now, I wonder just how many more years after us that tradition was kept. I remember a... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 27-Apr-2011
    The last part should have read ..... growing up in Forbes St, (would he have been stationed at Gorton Park station) John.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Apr-2011
    Hi Paul,
    It's funny how things jog your memory.
    I remember those coloured water jugs too, and the inkwells with sliding tops, and the excitement when you were lucky enough to be given a new wooden-handled pen with a metal nib at the start of a fresh school year.
    I also remember that half the class did not get them, as you had to show that you could write with a pencil very neatly first.
    We pra... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Apr-2011
    Here's one from right at the back of my brain:
    Whenever we had a geography lesson, and we were looking at Africa, Asia, America or Australia, it was NOT necessary to draw a map of those continents.
    The teacher had a kind of brass-framed roller, some eight inches wide, which was rolled onto a broad ink-pad and then rolled onto a page of our exercise books to reproduce a perfect outline map of tho... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Remember the "bunks" at the back of the school between the church building that had coke stored there for the school's heating system?
    Can anyone remember where the boiler for this heating system was located, it must have been in that same area?
    The caretaker, Ephrahim ARTHURS, was in charge of heating and maintenance, but used to use us kids (obviously with Mrs CLAYTON's permission) to weed the churchyard.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-May-2011
    Hi John,
    Yes those "Bunks" at the back were along side the small car park area the teachers used, I seem to remember seeing Mr Arthurs going down a set of steps near the bunkers at times, I take it they would have lead to a "Boiler Room."
    I remember a time when helping Mr Arthurs, we were taking stuff into his cellar down more steps in the Williams St playground. I can only remember seeing unde... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Hi Paul,
    It's funny but I remember my brother Christopher telling me the story about Ephrahim ARTHURS having loads of school memorabilia, I wonder what happened to it all?
    I tried to trace old registers years ago, they were all destroyed I was told by the Education Archivist.
    I know Mr ARTHURS died at Hattersley, but have no idea what happened to any family he might have had, they must still be... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-May-2011
    John,
    Did you ever meet Mr Clayton, he seemed really freindly nothing like her! I remember he would come along on day trips to help out, when handing packs of sandwiches or something in the coach. He passed a pack to Mr Platt and said "here you are Vinnie."
    Mrs Clayton heard him and came down on him like a ton of bricks, saying "don't you ever let me hear you call one of my teachers by their C... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-May-2011
    Paul,
    Clayton and Platt were the worst kind of bullying teachers, they were snobs who must have looked on us raggedy-arsed kids as an embarrassment to them, and I firmly believe that's what tainted the way they behaved towards children - they would not last five minutes in todays teaching environment.
    Platt was a coward, he was terrified of old lemon-lips but did not have the guts to speak up fo... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-May-2011
    Can anyone remember going on a field trip from St Marks' to Heaton Park near Prestwich around 1956?
    I can't really remember what we did there, other than we had some notepaper on which was written a list of things we had to find in the park - but that's about it.
    We were taken there on a Manchester Corporation Transport Department double-decker bus, and we had a packed lunch of a sandwich and or... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Dora Chadwick (Member 10270772) on 17-Feb-2012
    Hi folks

    My mother Dora Chadwick went to St Marks from ca 1932 until she went to High School. She says she remembers both Mrs. Clayton and Mr. Platt and agrees Platt probably would be arrested these days. Apparently strapped her about 6x on the wrist leaving a big red mark. She told him it didn't hurt". His reply was "oh we will see if it hurts this time then" and so he strapped her again. She ... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by daniel boardman (Member 10292220) on 26-Mar-2014
    my granddad is walter carr who had a sister Doreen carr both lived on William street went to st mark's

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does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 24-Feb-2011
I am just trying to get that BEST PET LINK down the page.Does anybody remember, a Steve Appleyard, hung around peter pan park, what about Hilda's cafe???   
  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 24-Feb-2011
    Hi John, what a bril idea if we all put something on the message board it might throw pets corner off the bottom of the screen.
    Hang on i can remember the name Steve Appleyard, did he go to Thomas Street or Openshaw Tech?If he didn't I can't think where I might have known him from. The old grey cell I have left is playing up again.
    Help!! Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 24-Feb-2011
    It's working already..thanks. steve's name just came to me from I dont know where,haha all I know
    is he /we knocked around for a while at PP Park.wot about Gorton celtic????

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Feb-2011
    Does anyone remember early BBC programmes for kids:
    Picture Book, Rag Tag and Bobtail, Bill and Ben, Andy Pandy and the Woodentops on Fridays.
    No?
    Well it's better than that PETS website isn't it?
    Great idea guys,
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 25-Feb-2011
    I remember all those John. Also, Muffin the Mule and Dobbin the Donkey. You would get arrested for that now.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 25-Feb-2011
    Pete, I thought that was legalised in the 60's.
    On the Steve Appleyard theme the name Susan Appleyard sprang to mind. Can anyone help out there?
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 25-Feb-2011
    Now thats got me thinking..... what about,Four Feathers Fall.....cowboys and indians made as string puppets for T.V. then als was Stingray...What was the monkey called,haha

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 25-Feb-2011
    I remember "Four Feather Falls" well. The theme tune was sung by Michael Holliday snd the speaking voice of "Tex Tucker" was a young Nicholas Parsons.Can you remember what the four feathers were for? I am avoiding the monkey question as I don't want it to turn into some sort of best pet forum ha ha. (don't know the answer realy)Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 25-Feb-2011
    Sure Steve Appleyard went to Openshaw Tech - my ex also went there, Les Knibbs, possibly same class. Think Steve lived near PP Park on Chapman St in it's heady days!!!

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 25-Feb-2011
    O.K. you win no more pet links,haha think monkey was called......zoon....zooky?????.lol.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 25-Feb-2011
    Thanks Carole,
    Was at a friends of Les's 60th on Saturday, Ray Hatton, saw a picture of all three of us on the school football team.It was a great to catch up on stuff from Thomas Street primary with Angela Helsby from Benfleet Street.
    Cheers Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 25-Feb-2011
    was the monkey called zooney or something like that

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 25-Feb-2011
    Correct! The monkey was called Zooney....But what was the robot called in Fireball XL5???? Remember Mike Mercury? (I'll bet that wasn't his real name!... Chris. H.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Feb-2011
    Brilliant our kid
    Remember Stingray with that Aqua Marina, the mute girl who swam underwater and never needed oxygen?
    Remember those thick lips she had, a collagen implant forty years before its time.
    Four Feather Falls?
    Michael Holiday DID sing the signature tune, he died of cancer comparatively young - he was supposed to be the UK's answer to Bing Crosby, he sounded like him too.
    Remember t... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 25-Feb-2011
    The name of that Robot .... didn't they just reverse the name and call it Tobor ??

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Feb-2011
    Michael Holliday committed suicide at the age of 38.
    He was supposed to be the UK's answer to Bing Crosby and is buried in Liverpool his home town.
    He sang the tunes in the Esso Blue adverts and Four Feather Falls, and suffered from stage=fright all his life.
    He took a drugs overdose.
    Was it only me who had a big crush on Patricia Driscoll who used to present Picture Book on Mondays?
    She was ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 25-Feb-2011
    The Robot?..Nope, don't think it was Tobor...However there was an American film out at the same time called "Tobor The Great" about a robot that was sent into space and controlled the spaceship, out about the same time as "The day the earth stood still" starring Michsal Rennie! Anyway whatever happened to Professor Popkiss and Doctor Beaker after they retired? I think Aqua Marina had a "no strings... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 25-Feb-2011
    Here's a memory jerker for all members:- Richard Green, who played Roin Hood on TV in the 50's as mentioned before was one of only two people who refused to be on This Is Your Life with Eamon Andrews ! Who was the other??? (It wasn't Mike Mercury).... Chris. H....

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Feb-2011
    This Is Your Life refusal - wasn't it Danny Blanchflower the Spurs and Ireland footballer?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Feb-2011
    That Adolf Eichmann, didn't he refuse to go on years ago?
    Naturally shy I suppose.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Feb-2011
    Is it me, or was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid the BEST EVER western film?
    Here's a TRUE fact - 15% of the people who died with Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie at the Alamo in 1836 were born in England.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Feb-2011
    One more TRUE fact - in 1983, a French delegation in Europe objected to the name Waterloo Station in London, as it was seen by them to be an unwarranted reminder of their defeat by Wellington in 1815.
    A poll was taken in the UK to suggest an alternative name, and the two top answers were Agincourt Station and Crecy Station, two other humiliating defeats of the French that they still can't forget.... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Feb-2011
    OK, just one more TRUE fact - the NHS is the third biggest employer of people IN THE WORLD - top being the Chinese Army followed by the Indian Railways.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 27-Feb-2011
    long way to go yet. Keep it up!!! well thats what my misses sez,lol,haha

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    If you laid all Tony Blair's admirers end to end - they would stretch to you front door!

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Here's something to make you think - My grandmother Mary LEE was born in Horwich, Bolton on 24th December 1880, a year BEFORE Billy the Kid was shot dead by Sheriff Pat Garrett, and she died in July 1969 on the SAME DAY that Neil Armstrong landed on the moon - imagine what she saw in her lifetime - from the birth of flight and electricity to man flying into space and landing on the moon - what wil... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Do you know that THREE people have each won two Victoria Crosses for bravery under fire.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Do you know that Lt. BROMHEAD who won the Victoria Cross at Rorke's Drift during the Zulu wars (played by Michael CAINE in the film Zulu) was widely regarded as an incompetent idiot beforehand, and was only commissioned because his father was a high-ranking army officer?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Do you know that the American actress Halle BERRY's mother was born in Liverpool and that the outlaw Butch Cassidy's family were originally from Newcastle on Tyne?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Do you know that 90% of all the Roman soldiers who manned Hadrian's Wall before they left Britain in 410AD were originally from Spain and North Africa - imagine what they thought of the weather up there?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    My dad used to say that had Duncan Edwards not been killed in the Munich Air Disaster in 1958, the world would have never heard of Bobby Moore - but then again Dad was a staunch ManU supporter.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Do you know that I feel that I have done my bit to knock the PET advert off the top, and it's now down to you lot - best wishes, John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 27-Feb-2011
    Well done....take a PET on your back.....sorry a PAT on your back, thamk you.come on you lot.!!!

  • Re: does anybody remember. by barrie roberts (Member 10256887) on 27-Feb-2011
    Did you know there are 2 VC medal winners buired in Phillips Park Cemertey one of which was William Jones who fought at Rorks Drift the other was George Stinger
    There is also a VC Medal winner John Readitt buried in Gorton Cemetery

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Feb-2011
    Brilliant Barrie, knew about Phillip's Park heroes but not Gorton Cemetery one, and I heard one of those buried in Phillip's Park died a pauper in Salford's Workhouse - really sad.
    If that was the USA, there would be a statue to him, what a way to treat our heroes.
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 28-Feb-2011
    "Mint" Malteesers, they were in a green packet.

    "Five Boys" chocolate bars.

    Bars of "Milk Tray" ch... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Feb-2011

    Spanish Gold (imitation tobacco)
    Sweet cigarettes with a red-coloured end
    Liquorice smoking pipes
    (Wonder why they banned all these ;-))
    ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Feb-2011
    Tiger Tails from Esso Garages, related to the slogan "Put a tiger in your tank". I think they were marshmallow and chocolate covered.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 28-Feb-2011
    Hells Bells!! do I remember all those goodies I am sure I have tried them all, thats what I call a proper must have 5 a day healthy option. For years I thought it was a beer belly I had.
    Great memories. Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 28-Feb-2011
    Peter, Dave, Paul, What about Y Z chewing gum from the dispenser outside the sweet shop! If the arrow on the knob was pointing towards you then you got two packets for a penny!..Remember Swizzels? I defy anyone to eat them without winking, they were so bitter!!And Moondust! that made your tongue feel like it was on fire for about an hour!! Great memories guys! keep them coming....Chris.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 28-Feb-2011
    you might remember the programmes but do you remember who sang the title songs

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 28-Feb-2011
    The theme tune was recorded by a few people including Frankie Lane but the one they used was sung by Dick James and was released on a 78rpm and actually made the charts.
    Bernadette o'farrel played the maid M in the first two series but left to prevent being typecast. The answer to the question regarding the rather dashing appearance of Rob is obvious, he had his own maid, no wonder she left after... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 28-Feb-2011
    The theme song by Frankie Laine was The Man from Laramie,does anyone remember Frankie Laine,Johnny Ray and Mario Lanza at the Kings Hall Belle Vue i will never forget it

  • Re: does anybody remember. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 28-Feb-2011
    jimmy young also had a hit with the man from laramie

  • Re: does anybody remember. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 28-Feb-2011
    garry miller did stingray, the ballad of davy crocket.robin hood and aqua marina.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Please tell me that I did not dream this guys:
    Years ago, 1950's-1960's, VIMTO gave away little books with light brown covers and backs.
    They were packed with hundreds of facts such as, the worlds longest rivers, highest mountains, populations, biggest oceans and lakes, mathematics tables, lengths, weights and measures : (remember 16 ounces to the pound, 14 pounds to the stone,112 pounds to the ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Regarding the crew of Fireball XL5, it was:
    Colonel Steve ZODIAC
    Doctor VENUS, Doctor of Space Medicine
    Robert the Robot, and
    Zoonie the Lazoon.
    The Assistant Space City Controller was Lieutenant NINETY who was assisted by Eleanor and Johna... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Someone mentioned Four Feather Falls, and how the hero came to get them - here is the story:
    Our hero, Tex TUCKER found a half-starved Indian boy in the desert, and saved his life.
    His name was MAKOOYA.
    Tex TUCKER returned him safely to his tribe, and to his father Chief KALAMAKOOYA, who rewarded Tex TUCKER by giving him four magic white feathers.
    These enabled Tex TUCKER's guns to fire withou... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Anyone remember The Adventures of William Tell?
    This ran from 1958 to 1959, and starred Conrad PHILLIPS as William Tell, Jennifer JAYNE as his wife Hedda Tell, Richard ROGERS as his son Walter Tell, with Willoughby GODDARD as the villain Landburgher Gessler and Nigel GREEN as William Tell's side-kick, The Bear.
    Not many people know this, but all the alpine scenes of Switzerland were actually fil... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Sorry guys, it was NOT the Range Rider (staring Jock MAHONEY) that featured Rossini's William Tell Overture, but it WAS the Lone Ranger - sorry.
    By the way, the Range Rider's theme tune WAS "Home, Home on the Range".
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Feb-2011
    Well John, about the William Tell Overture, I went for a private medical through work. The doctor took a mini ECG and advised me it will make a 'tiddley dee' sound so I wouldn't be startled. At the very second it worked, his mobile phone went off loudly playing The William Tell Overture. Now that startled me a lot more. The doctor thought it was funny, either that or an interesting test result. Th... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 28-Feb-2011
    Going back to the 1950's...What about The Cissco Kid and Pancho! Or Hoppalong Cassidy? (William Boyd)Frankie Laine must have made a fortune in repeat fees in those days. The recording of The Ballad of Davy Crockett, mentioned earlier , was released on a 45 record and went to number one!Were we short of music then or what?....Chris. H.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Paul mentioned Cadbury's Milk Tray chocolate bars, what a memory, and how did they afford to make those?
    No wonder they didn't survive long on the market.
    As I recall, one was always a half-moon shaped Orange flavour and another (I think) was always Soft Caramel, god I can taste them now.
    Hopalong Cassidy, fired hundreds of shots from what must have been a 75 chambered six-shooter, and never hi... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Feb-2011
    Did anyone buy Old Spice Lime Aftershave - it didn't last long because of falling sales, but I remember having a wet shave and splashing it all over my face for the first time - I almost leapt out of the bedroom window - it was bathing in battery acid. Anyone else try this, or its posh counterpart - Hai Karate?
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Feb-2011
    what about Gorton lad John Thaw in tv prog,REDCAP. OR Emergency Ward 10. mmmmmmmmmmm scatches head!!!keep it up, its actually fun,well i'm enjoying it, thanks.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 1-Mar-2011
    Can you remember Fry's Five Boys chocolate bars? i saw an old poster in a pub explaining what each boy represented but can't remember now.
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 1-Mar-2011
    does anybody remember the tomorrow people or time slip from the early 70s

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 1-Mar-2011
    Dave, regarding the "Five Boys" The story I heard back in the 50's is that they were just 4 kids chosen at random from an orphanage! Ring any bells? Chris. H...

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 1-Mar-2011
    Correction " 5 kids ".....

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 1-Mar-2011
    Chris, they were pictures of the same boy he was called Lindsay Poulton and the pictures were taken in about 1896. Each face depicted a different emotion.Desperation, Pacification, Expectation, Acclamation, Realization. It was supposed to signify the emotions of the lad desperate and then satisfied for receiving and consuming the said chocolate bar. Just like kids of today when they get their 60in... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 1-Mar-2011
    Dave, Brilliant !, I'm sure your right. Thinking back now about the wrapper it was the same kid! Whatever happened to him I wonder? Probably a child star.. Do you remember the chewing gum machines? I think they were Y Z and K P. one was pink gum and prety foul tasting, but us kids were not so choosey then! ....Chris. H.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-Mar-2011
    When most chip shops would sell either cod or hake? You don't see that now.

    And warm bottles of mineral off the shelf. Fridges were rare in shops and used for foodstuffs rather than the luxury of cold drinks. There'd be riots today.

    My mum used to order "roady bacon" at the grocers. Can anyone explain that meaning?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 1-Mar-2011
    Peter, I remember the limited choice of cod or hake in the chippy, one was slightly dearer but tasted exactly the same! Also Roady bacon was a mixture of lean and fatty bacon slices., You just took pot luck as to what you got, it was probably the joint ends cut up and mixed., one of many money saving ways of those days. Any more?...Chris. H...

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 1-Mar-2011
    Remember Anglo Bubbly Bubble Gum, perfect for blowing bubbles.

    Facts:

    The oldest piece of chewing gum is 9000 ye... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Mar-2011
    Dave,
    I am Chris' older brother.
    I can assure you that it would not be our kid's chewing gum you found.
    He used to slip his used gum into the pockets of the only suit I possessed.
    I could never get my hands right down to the bottom of any pocket because of his chewing gum that blocked them half way down.
    We sti... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 1-Mar-2011
    Dave, Very possible it was mine, maybee one that didn't stick to the ceiling..Wow Anglo bubble gum, was that the pink one, about two inches round and 1/2 inch thick, lasted for three days?Caused more dislocated jaws than boxing! FACT:- Chewing activates a muscle at the base of the skull which makes the brain think food is on its way and you falsely feel full!!......Chris. H..

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Mar-2011
    Anyone remember Dave KING, the London-born singer and comedian who emigrated to the USA but came back to star, usually as an East End villain, in shows like The Sweeney and Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased).
    You may remember in the very early 60's a company called Corona introduced door-to-door sales of fizzy drinks, and one of the first adverts on ITV featured Dave KING singing the signature tune, ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 2-Mar-2011
    John, Dave King was in an episode of 'Heartbeat' last Thursday night.We were talking about him at work during the day so it was a bit spooky that he should appear that night.
    In defence of your Chris and the gum in your pocket it was probably an early attempt and experiment to develop a form of 'Velcro'
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Mar-2011
    Spot on Dave, you are probably right, it was that new Spearmint XL Velcro I believe, great stories mate, keep them coming,
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Mar-2011
    Anyone remember the first ever 45 rpm single record they bought in the 60's?
    Our kid and I bought "Runaway" by Del Shannon, and we played it over and over for weeks.
    We then turned to "Wimoweh" by The Karl Denver Trio on Decca Records (orange and white diagonal stripes on the paper record sleeve).
    Our record player was a Bush Stacker, (blue case with opening lid and two side-fastening clips) an... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 2-Mar-2011
    GRANDMA`S REMEDIES.
    In my Grandmothers house Where we lived at the time,I recall the following concoctions, can anyone add to the list.
    Fennings Fever Cure.
    Fennings little lung healers
    Fullers Earth (don`t know what that did)
    Olive Oil and Raspberry Vinegar(for t... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Margaret Rochford (Member 10257531) on 2-Mar-2011
    That brought back some memories! I remember my mother used to dry cumfrey on the old rack in the kitchen. Remember them - they were on a pulley system and had wooden slats. Saw one the other day and it was over a hundred Euro! I think the Fullers Earth was for if you got a boil and they slapped it on. The boil was supposed to be drawn out by the Fullers Earth. That's another you never see nowadays... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 2-Mar-2011
    Hiya
    I have just bought a pulley made ( the clothes rack with wooden slats that hangs from the ceiling)
    it cost me £50 its only a small one, they are quite fashionable now to hang your pans on.
    It was a nightmare to put up, its now back down in the box as it just does not look right.
    Back then when we was kids it did not matter how it looked as long as mam could dry the washing

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Mar-2011
    Hi Julie, how posh is that, a Rack for hanging your pans on, we are way behind you on that one we still use pot towels to dry ours ha ha!!
    Re old remedies:
    Fennings cooling powders
    Malt and castor oil
    Vinegar rag (a hankie with vinegar on applied to the forehead to relieve headaches)
    You then needed something to get rid of the spots caused by the sai... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 3-Mar-2011
    My mother always kept chocolate laxative in the cupboard. To us kids this was just chocolate. You can imagine the results of us gorging on this! Remember condensed milk in a tin? We would eat it by the spoonful then get told off as we 'might get worms'.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 3-Mar-2011
    What about the best picnic in the world - sugar butties and water and sugar in an old bottle, which was our version of lemonade? Minus the lemon but so what. Anyone remember black chewing gum which we used to buy From Birds corner shop on Taylor St? Great when it got stuck in your hair! And malt and cod liver oil which I bought for my own kids just so I could eat it. They hated it so all the mo... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 3-Mar-2011
    Hi Dave
    I did not hang my pans on the rack to dry, ha ha It was meant to store them , just pull down the rack to get them rather than stand on a chair.
    Anyway not in use now but whats new.
    The black chewing gum ( chuddy ) what about the orange juice that you could get from the clinic, think it was around the Hyde Road area

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 3-Mar-2011
    Hi There Julie, The shop was on Hyde Road opposite the post office and was called "The Wellfare Shop". My mother went there for the said ultra thick orange juice, powdered milk and milk tokens.All those old remedies bring back my school days in West Gorton when you were given something every day despite being perfectly healthy. Codliver oil and rasberry vinegar was quite nice.My Gran was a great b... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Mar-2011
    Sorry bout that Julie,
    What about Virol! was it spread on toast to encourage eating?
    Did anybody go to Sun Ray Treatment my cousin Marguerite (Johnson of Abbotsbury St) had asthma and refused to go for treatment unless I went with her. We used to strip down to our undies and put Japanese pilot like googles on and sit on a mat infront of a huge sun lamp. There was about ten kids there with allsor... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 3-Mar-2011
    My mother took me to the 'Welfare Shop' on Hyde Rd for light treatment because my baby teeth were late coming through. Now I've got a nice set of pearlies except for those that the sadistic and greedy dentists yanked out at the school clinic on Gorton Rd.
    By the way, the welfare orange juice was truly delicious. Everytime I went to my friends house, she was from a large family, I would always ask... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 3-Mar-2011
    I don't remember much about the Welfare Shop on Hyde Rd, except it became the Fridgedair laundrette in the 60's and then in the mid 70's became the "Pop in Bar'b'que" chip shop.
    Did anyone on here ever go to Dr Garrett's Convelescent Home at Conway, ran by Manchester Education Committee.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Mar-2011
    ah!!! all these remedies.. All I got was a thick ear if I went home with an ailment.crack.."that'll take your mind off it".
    happy day's NOT.haha

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 3-Mar-2011
    The Viral that thick paste ? I can remember mums dipping their babies dummies in it , the dummies used to be brown all rubber.
    I can remember my mam feeding my sister milk out of a sauce bottle with a rubber teat that you had to pull over the bottle.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Mar-2011
    When I was at Thomas Street School I remember that if you had a cut, bump, graze or anything they used to smother it with iodine. I know that it killed bacteria but they must have bought it by the gallon the way it was plastered on some of us kids.
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Mar-2011
    Apart from Iodine, there was some other gunk that they plastered us kids with....it was PURPLE looked like ink...you gave kids a wide berth if you seen that on them...sorry cant remember the name.....just as well.lol.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 3-Mar-2011
    Camphorated oil for when you had a cold or a bad chest. I remember that awful smell and always associated it with feeling ill. It's not a favoured nor recommended treatment these days.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 3-Mar-2011
    Don't know anything about the convalescent home at Conway but I remember going to a holiday home for poor kids at Squires Gate, Blackpool, organised by Wood St mission. It had an indoor swimming pool and lots of kids never took swimming cossies. They were told to swim in the altogether, I'm sure the bloke in charge got some kind of kick out of this.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 4-Mar-2011
    Fiars balsam in water was a regular cough remedy and I always loved the taste. I now drink Pernod and coke at any given opportunity, which I swear is a very similar taste (and look) so I blame my drinking habits on my Mum!! And does anyone remember those tiny little knickerbocker glory sweets in a plastic "glass" with a spoon which we used to buy from the sweet shop opposite Peacock St School - w... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 4-Mar-2011
    My dad (Scott) used to work at Farranti's, ICT or ICL on shifts and would sometimes come home on his meal break and bring us ice cold cartons of milk from the chiller machine at work it was such a luxury. The first people that I remember who owned a fridge was Stan Briggs the bookie on Robert Street, his children Linda and Billy used to come out with an ice cold drink of milk or pop and make us al... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 4-Mar-2011
    i think the convalescent home in conway was called dr garrets

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 4-Mar-2011
    My sister has just turned up at my house with 4 Black Jacks for me from the corner shop, which cost 5p EACH!!!! Think we'll save up for the Fruit Salads!

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 4-Mar-2011
    Those little knickerbocker glories in plastic cups were a mixture of chocolate and pastes weren't they? I can remember the spoons would often snap as they were dug in.
    Out about the same time (early 60's)? were chocolate nougat fingers, not very big but I think we called them Whoppers?.
    And butterscotch gums sold loose.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 4-Mar-2011
    And marshmallow wafers that looked like the ice cream version. Load of junk.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Mar-2011
    The Welfare Shop on Hyde Road, was painted dark green and had a yellow painted sign along its front that read "Council Welfare" and was directly opposite the Post Office.
    There was a bit of a stigma attached to going there, as only poorer families with limited income were entitled to the stuff they handed out.
    They distributed free concentrated orange juice and National Dried Milk in silver colo... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Mar-2011
    When several Army and Nany stores sprouted up on Hyde Road, there was a huge one opposite Cowan's Cycle Shop?
    They sold everything the aspiring would-be soldier would need to wear, together with an array of tools, usually from the Tank Regiment, including very large spanners and bottle-jacks with steel jacking handles that were used to jack up tanks that had "thrown" a track and needed to be repa... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 5-Mar-2011
    Re- Dave King he married a girl called Jean Hart who lived in Goring Ave,incidently how many of you who remember all this did National Service

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 5-Mar-2011
    Your dad was right John, with what he said about Duncan Edwards - Bobby Moore would never have got a place in the England team. That would have been Duncan's for at least the next ten years and possibly longer. Duncan could also play anywhere, and did. I have never seen a player come anywhere near him for all round ability to this day, and he was only 20 when the plane crashed taking his life sixteen days later.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Mar-2011
    Glad someone else remembers Big Dunc.
    My Dad used to say I saw him when I was young, but I
    only have the odd video of him, he had legs like tree trunks and was immensly strong.
    Defenders would bounce off him and he was a giant in a boy's body, what a sad, sad loss.
    Went to his grave in Dudley years ago, coach-loads of fans go EVERY week, amazing.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 5-Mar-2011
    Regarding the VC who died a pauper - William Jones VC, he does have a plaque commemorating his deeds in the cemetery church. He was buried with full military honours by the South Wales Borderers, the helmet he wore at Rorke's Drift being placed on the coffin. His memory and his medal are proudly preserved in "The South Wales Borderers and Monmouthshire Regimental Museum of The Royal Regiment of Wa... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Mar-2011
    Jack,
    That's a very true story you tell about Vietnam.
    What makes me smile about the US is that near my daughter's in Eaton, Ohio is a grassy mound in a country park called Fort St Clair.
    There is a story (on Goggle) about a handful of soldiers that were killed there in the Indian Wars - not sure of the year but think it was in the mid 1700's.
    There are flags and cannon there to commemorate th... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 5-Mar-2011
    Probably many people remember Sutton Park on Darras Road during the fifties and sixties? I have been writing my autobiography over the past years and obviously written about my time in Gorton having spent my entire youth there. However I have tried in vain to obtain a photo of the inside of Sutton Park. Does anyone, or do you know of anyone, who has a photo of it?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Mar-2011
    Jack,
    Just checked my facts - sorry but it's quite sad I know - the battle at Fort St Clair was in 1792 and it was six Kentucky Riflemen killed, not five as I thought.
    Two hundred American Indians led by Little Turtle, attacked one hundred Kentuckians at the fort, killing six.
    I visit every year when I go to my daughters, a mile from here.
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 5-Mar-2011
    Hello John. Yes, that is very sad indeed. I'm knew to this page so when you say you visit there every year when you go to see your daughter, "a mile from here." Do you mean "There" or do you in fact live in Ohio yourself? Are you related to Brian Holmes by any chance?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Mar-2011
    Jack,
    I live in South Holland, Lincolnshire, but visit my daughter in Eaton Ohio every year, and we always have a walk in the park I mentioned.
    Eaton is 50 miles north of the Kentucky State Line at Cincinatti and 9 miles east of the Indiana State Line at Richmond.
    It seems that everything that happened in history in the US is commemorated by a marker of some sort, and I know their history is on... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Mar-2011
    Jack,
    Sorry mate, no relation to Brian Holmes.
    Definitely no Brians in our family Jack.
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Mar-2011
    Harold,
    Was born too late for National Service (1947), but my late step-brother Peter did.
    I remember him coming on home leave from Germany, it would be around 1953 I think.
    He had brought my Dad a watch with a pearl face and green stones set around the face, Dad had it on for years.
    Peter served for two years in Germany and went to North Wales and married a nurse from Holywell.
    He loved his ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Mar-2011
    The first big winner on Hughie Green's Double Your Money?
    His name was Plantagenet Somerset Fry.
    Sir Bobby Charlton once went on a quiz show in the 1960's and won £1000 answering questions on Modern Jazz.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 7-Mar-2011
    Double Your Money was originally on radio Luxembourg before the tv format. Plantagenet Fry (wonder if he's a relative of Steven) was the first big winner, he refused the £1,000 question and took the £512 he had won.(about £8,000 in todays money or two tanks of petrol)I remember Monica Rose as being one of the shows hostess's.
    Can you remember 'Take Your Pick' that was very popular at the time ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Mar-2011
    Is it only me who remembers Michael Miles as being a bit of an oily slime-ball?
    Bob Danvers-Walker was the man with the "gong" on the Yes/No Interlude wasn't he?
    Remember The Golden Shot?
    How many of you waited every week to see an accident?
    Bob Monkhouse really was good, but another star with depression and self-doubt, strange.
    Eric Morecambe died on stage at the Roses Theatre in Tewkesbury ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Mar-2011
    Does anyone remember a programme called Criss Cross Quiz at all?
    I can't remember who was in it or what it was about, just the name - or am I losing it?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by David McWilliams (Member 10258333) on 7-Mar-2011
    John, Criss Cross Quiz on Granada TV started 1957 and ran till 1967. The show was based on noughts and crosses but the contestants had to answer a gen knowledge question before choosing where to place thiere 0 or X on the board etc.
    Over its 10 years the show had many hosts but the first one was Jeremy Hawk. There was also a junior version of the show. Do you remember Marion Ryan and spot t... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Mar-2011
    Brilliant mate, many thanks.
    I remember Marion Ryan well, she had twin boys, was it Paul and Barry Ryan, singers?
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 8-Mar-2011
    Slack & Cox minerals? Grapefuit crush was my favourite. Might be just me, but minerals had more taste then.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 8-Mar-2011
    My Gran, mam and various aunts and uncles worked at Slack n Cox's at some point.I had sampled most of the flavours but my favourites were cream soda or dandelion and burdock.

    Old joke back in the day, if you will pardon me for being so rude went "She was only a pop bottlers daughter but she knew how to Slack n Cox".

    Moving on, Can you remember a television celeb, announcer and actor Mcdonal... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    Slack & cox
    was that near Hyde Road, and did it have a big brick wall round it ?
    I think that was the place where many of us kids used to scramble that big wall with the odd crate or two ( not me as I could never get to the top ) but I am ashamed to admit that I did keep watch ..... julie

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 8-Mar-2011
    Yes Julie, near the BOC car place. It's on one of the photos in my Gorton collection.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 8-Mar-2011
    Stoodley's Motor Auctions now own all the land that was Slack & Cox, plus the old Edmund's Bakery.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    Cheers Peter x

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 9-Mar-2011
    Julie/Peter
    Slack & Cox was on a split site the beer bottling was where you have described but the pop bottling plant was on the other side of Hyde Road towards Bennett Street and the Fenian Arch.
    Cheers Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 9-Mar-2011
    ooooh it must have been the beer crates then that were being passed over

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 9-Mar-2011
    I like most people find it hard to visualize where everything was in respect to Hyde road and West Gorton. If the current sitings of the bus stops are as they were back in the 50's/60's then it is easier to place streets and buildings. There was a bus stop outside the Justice Birch pub which was facing Slack & Cox i am sure that is still in the same position. Does anybody know if the bus stops wer... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 9-Mar-2011
    I'm 100% certain they have been changed, es-pecially between Belle Vue and Clowes St due to the large scale demolition of commercial and domestic properties.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 9-Mar-2011
    Thanks for that Kate I thought as much. It wasn't so bad when the Horse Shoe pub was left standing after the main demolition. There was a sign for Robert Street on the side of the pub which was there for donkeys years after. I wish I had taken more notice then. We still have the bottom end of Clowes Street and the few houses there and then not much on Hyde Road until we are almost at Birch street.... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 9-Mar-2011
    It's actually George Stringer, not Stinger, who won the VC and is buried in Phillps Park Cemetery. He won the coveted award in August 1916 in Mesopotamia, holding ground that his battalion had been forced back on, by throwing all his grenades until they were used up. His gallant stand saved the flank of his battalion and made a steady withdrawal possible. He was a very brave man. He died on 22nd November 1957.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 10-Mar-2011
    Jack, what a brave man he was, I have seen the medal in The Manchester Regiment Museum in Ashton Town Hall.
    There are 13 VC holders that have graves in the Manchester area sadly some are unmarked.
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 10-Mar-2011
    Kate I went on the Manchester Local Image Collection on the Council site and there was loads of photo's of that stretch of Hyde Road and the shops there. Mawsons, Playfair Footwear, Belle Vue Electronics,names I had forgotten. It brought loads of memories back.
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 10-Mar-2011
    Hello Dave, I visit the Museum of The Manchester's myself now and again as the VC and other medals of my 3rd cousin, whose life I have written about, Lt. William Thomas Forshaw VC, are also in there, along with his Sword of Freedom and Silver Chalice.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 10-Mar-2011
    Dave,
    I remember Mawson's very well and lots more whose names I can't remember. How about Hornby's chip shop, the wool shop, Sivori's ice cream shop, Jones's the newsagents, Benson's the butchers, the grocers on the corner of Hyde Rd and Birch St which later became a used car place, Dr Cameron's GP surgery. Wow, my brains getting a little tired now.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 11-Mar-2011
    Kate can you remember Pinkas's on Hyde Road or the shop that was called simply 'The Walkround Store'. Was that a shape of things to come?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 11-Mar-2011
    Jack, what a brave man your relative was you are quite rightly very proud of him as we all should be. I will read more about him on the net and revisit Ashton for another look.
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 11-Mar-2011
    Dave,
    I don't remember Pinka's, I left West Gorton in 1965 so might have been after that. The only shop I can think it might have been was a corner shop on Hyde Rd next to Edmunds Bakeries.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 11-Mar-2011
    Hi Kate, I left West Gorton in 1965 too, we were relocated to Hattersley. Pinkas's was on the opposite side of the road to Edmunds I think it was a few doors down from the West Gorton post office going towards Belle Vue also on the same row as Jim Ramsbottom the bookie (where my dad used to donate to the sick horses and dogs fund every Saturday)
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 11-Mar-2011
    Hi Dave,
    I use to live almost directly behind the shop when the new estate was built, this link shows how the spot looks today..... Not much of a landmark is it, but the back of the lorry trailer would have been on the old Zebra crossing facing Pinkas's. http://bit.ly/huH3Au
    Have you seen the photo on M/c Library Archives showing the shop in 1972 shortly before it came down. Do you remember the... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Mar-2011
    For Jack Forshaw:
    Jack,
    Did you have a relative who went to St Marks' School in William Street, West Gorton?
    There was a lad in our class called Forshaw, but I am sorry, I can't recall his first name, it could have been David or more probably Keith - would he be a relative of yours - he would be 63 today?
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 12-Mar-2011
    For John Holmes. I have two Keith Forshaw's in my family tree but none of them fit the description of your class mate at St. Marks. One would be in his eighties and the other one, went to Gorton Mount and Wright Robinson, would be just forty-eight. However, that doesn't mean to say that your class mate is not related to me. It would be interesting to find out who his grandma and granddad and great... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Mar-2011
    Jack,
    Thanks for the quick response.
    I am sorry I have no more information about Keith Forshaw, and I can't even remember if he had brothers or sisters you might know.
    Will ask our kid tonight and see if he knows anything more.
    I will get back to you ASAP mate,
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 14-Mar-2011
    Cheers for that, John. Hope you can find out more.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 19-Mar-2011
    1) Ray Guns - those bright plastic space guns that when you pulled the trigger, a toothed-wheel sent sparks flying out of the end, like Dan Dare's gun from the Eagle comic?
    2) The plastic ring that was given away in the very first Bunty comic - girls at school wore them as soon as they came out.
    Meccano sets, with rubber bands for using with brass pulley wheels and tiny nuts and bolts with a lit... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 19-Mar-2011
    you can still buy meccano now ....
    I used to enjoy cutting the paper doll and the clothes from the back of the Bunty.
    The Beano and the Dandy was there a Sparky it seems to spring to mind ... julie

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 19-Mar-2011
    Meccano, brilliant, imagine the fun now we're all a bit more grown up?
    I remember those Bunty cut-outs, the girls at school had them in their desks, great fun.
    Always remember the Dandy and Beano, and loved Hotspur, but they were all overtaken by those, slightly more expensive, Commando books, great reads.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 19-Mar-2011
    Before the works of DC Thomsons in Chapel st. Salford closed in 1989 i worked there for 37 years printing the Dandy,BEANO TOPPER,BEEZER,HOTSPUR,ROVER,VICTOR,WIZARD,ADVENTURE,and the girly ones Bunty,etc and the RED STAR,FAMILY STAR AND LOADS MORE,Good Memories,Long Live The Bash Street Kids.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Mar-2011
    Suttons Estate annual trip to the seaside? There would be about 8-9 coaches park up on Wembley Road, destined to take residents to Southport, Scarborough, Rhyl or Blackpool. It was great as it gave people chance to get to know each other and cement friendships. The Estate Superintendent was an American chap called Mr Napman, who would come with us on one coach. We used to have sing-songs on the wa... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 28-Mar-2011
    Lol Peter
    I was a member of the tap and ballet oh and morris troupe at Suttons club, the teacher was a lady called Rita she was brilliant she got us kids to put an anual show on every year.
    The grown ups used to do one too I can remember a woman called Hattie or a name simular who was a great comic.
    My sister Karen was Rose queen one year and I a flower girl, Mrs Slack made ours and everyones d... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Mar-2011
    Hi Julie

    I lived next door to Mrs Slack on Trust Road. They were great times. I recall a children's pantomine (with adults in it) and then one staged by the adults solely for adults on the Friday/Saturday. Barbara Coulding, Mrs Fogg, Mavis Cutts are some names that come to mind.

    I saw your post on the Ward family recently and replied. I still have a programme from the charity football match ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by julie (Member 10255407) on 28-Mar-2011
    That will be great Peter if you dont mind , yes a very sad day that day a day I still think about every xmas morning.
    our Gordon still sees Tony dunn and Johnny cutts who now lives in OZ , he went over to see him last year its great that they kept in touch

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Those torches that enabled you to change the light's colour from white to red and to green?
    Did anyone put the light under their chin and pull a face to frighten their younger brother or sister?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    There was also another torch in the shape of a Tiger lay down, pressing it's tail turned it on and off, and the beam of light came from it's mouth.
    I also remember getting a chrome / jewel handled sword from "Mawson's" one time, I left it out in our back yard once, only to find the blade had fell apart in the rain, (it must have been silver cardboard.)

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    The smell of the tannery on Tan Yard Brow in the Summer, it was truly dreadful?
    In the 1800's, most of the area around the River Irwell and the Cathedral were tanneries which poured the offal and blood from the dead animals straight into the river.
    There were literally dozens and dozens of these tanneries in that area of Manchester, the smell must have been horrendous.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 4-Apr-2011
    An old joke about the Lone Ranger:

    Tonto was lying on the ground with his ear to the dirt.

    The Lone Ranger asks What is i... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 4-Apr-2011
    Peter an even older joke about them:

    The Lone Ranger and Tonto were surrounded by Indians and poor Tonto had hundreds of arrows stuck into his every part like a pin cushion.

    He looked at the Lone Ranger and said "how come I have all these arrows stuck in me and you have none stuck ... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 4-Apr-2011
    Or:

    They were being attacked by 1000+ Apache warriors, and the Lone Ranger said to Tonto "We're going to have trouble fighting this lot"

    To which Tonto said " Who's we, Pale Face?"

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    Tonto's real name was Jay Silverheels.
    They used to say that the sign of real intelligence was when you heard the William Tell Overture, and did NOT immediately think of The Lone Ranger - I always did though !!

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 12-Apr-2011
    Hi John
    A real sign of my intelligence, I stil sing "To the dump, to the dump to the dump dump dump" whenever I hear that tune. My granschildren quite rightly think I have lost it.
    Dave

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Dave, Top Man, a guy after my own heart, I do EXACTLY the same mate, well done, thought I was the only madman left in the world, great memory-jogger Dave.
    John.

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    HEATREA and ASCOT wall-mounted water heaters in the days before running hot water came from central heating boilers?

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 26-Apr-2011
    Anyone recall Chad Valley toys, or Derbac soap.- used to clear the unfortunate ones with `nits`

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-May-2011
    Uncle Joe's Mintballs - sold loose and usually stuck together in large lumps.
    Real teeth-breakers, like black granite.
    Crumpsall Folk Singer Mike Harding wrote a song about them:-
    "Un-cle Joe's Mint Balls make you all a-glow,
    Give them to your Granny, and watch the bugger go".
    They are still made in Wigan and sold in lovely red... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-May-2011
    Going back a few weeks to the stories about Manchester United's Duncan Edwards, who tragically died after the Munich Air Disaster in 1958, my Dad told me a cracker of a story:
    When Duncan had developed into the mighty strong young man that he was, he had a huge barrel chest and thighs like tree trunks, and nobody could ever knock him off the ball.
    On day United were playing Newcastle United at S... more >>

  • Re: does anybody remember. by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 11-Jun-2011
    Yes I remember Roedy/Roady Bacon it smelt and tasted great, I use to buy it from the Bacon shop opposite Cross St, or the mini market on Mount Rd in the seventies, it wasn't made up from bits though it was cut from the side of bacon, proper rashers, it always had two little pieces of grisel running through every rasher, today's bacon just doesn't compare,

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Patricia Crossley (Member 10252199) on 23-Jun-2011
    The purple stuff was Permanganate of Potash!

  • Re: does anybody remember. by Patricia Crossley (Member 10252199) on 23-Jun-2011
    Ooh I remember knickerbocker glory! Loved 'em. Bought mine from Todkill's shop on Blackwin Street

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Best pet forum, register today, it's free! by petsadvice (Member 10257026) on 16-Feb-2011
http://happypets.tk/

This forum is a great, active forum for petlovers like yourself.
There is great advice given, all questions are resolved usually within 24 hours, but often sooner.
Your pet will thank you for v ... more >>
  
  • Re: Best pet forum, register today, it's free! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Feb-2011
    Would that be Gorton Pets, West Gorton Pets, Abbey Hey Pets, Ardwick Pets, Sutton Estate Pets or Levenshulme Pets? - the cheek of some people, invading a site just to make a fast buck!

  • Re: Best pet forum, register today, it's free! by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 17-Feb-2011
    And to add insult to injury, they can't type properly!!

  • Re: Best pet forum, register today, it's free! by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Feb-2011
    You have to laugh don't you?
    How will your pet thank you for getting in touch with this idiot?
    Does it make you a cup of tea and bring it upstairs for you in the morning?
    What a load of tripe.
    John.

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bishop Greer School. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 15-Feb-2011
After a brief leap back in time has anyone got any photo's of the above school, there was a shortage of camera's when i went there.looking forward to them already.many thanks in advance.   
  • Re: bishop Greer School. by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 17-Feb-2011
    Said hello to Gail for you John but sad to say I forgot your surname so it could have been any John! And I'm not even blonde. Still not written that book - reads enough of them though - or she did until had cataracts done end of last year, so still bit blurry. Will be at hers on Friday with your full name and ask if she has any photos for you. Cheers for now.

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Feb-2011
    many thanks, I am John Carlton,used to live on borwell st,and peacock st. she was in my class along with,absa drameh,teresa mincion,sue pearson,eddie riley,billy young,etc,ect.she can find me on facebook,John G Carlton,mind there are two on there,im the one living in Mayo Ireland. take care. hope she remembers.

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 18-Feb-2011
    OK John - will pass on info. See you mentioned Eddie Riley in your post. Still see Eddie fairly regularly in the Wagon and Horses on Hyde Rd. His family lived opposite us at 1 Kirkham Ave and we were all big mates. Mrs. R had a family of 6 kids in a 3 bed semi but still never minded squeezing my sister and me in as well at weekends for a sleepover. No wonder we all knew each other well! Will sa... more >>

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Feb-2011
    ok ta. Me and eddie knocked around together,with budgie ( jimmy ) pledger.still cant place you though.didnt his brother get run over, or summit? Take care.

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 18-Feb-2011
    John, Where abouts in Mayo do you live? My best mate Brian Hall(an old Gortonian) Lives in Newport, he's been there about 12 years now and would never come back to Manchester. We were over there 2 years ago on holiday, it realy is a beautiful part of the world.....Cheers... Chris.

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Feb-2011
    claremorris,about35miles from Newport.Im 17mls from Knoock airport...Your mate lives in a nice neck of the woods..Good fishing grounds.Sorry but I would gladly swop it for Australian bush anyday, but thats another story..take care.

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Does anyone know when Bishop Greer School opened and closed?
    Why was it closed so soon after being built?

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 29-Mar-2011
    It's a bit fuzzy now.But it was about 1965/6. I was one of the first in.Can remember a lot of teachers, even the caretaker Mr.Nicholson.He had 2 lads at the school George and ? see gone fuzzy again,haha. Sorry don't know why or when it closed. Anybody got any foto's for me???

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    I started at Bishop Greer in my 2nd year in 1969, having spent my first 18 months or so at Victoria Park (the lower school for Central High.) I had Bishop Greer as my 2nd choice of Comprehensive's when changing from Primary school (St Mark's.) And remember later wishing I had it as my first choice as the kids who would have started at Bishop Greer in September '67, got an extra 2 weeks extension o... more >>

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 29-Mar-2011
    Thanks for link about foto....it seems that this is the ONLY foto,in the whole world,haha have already received this one. come on you lot any more??

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    For Paul Hartley:
    Paul,
    It's funny you remembering Bennett Street Rec and Garland's Foundry.
    I was at St Marks' from 1952 to 1959 and we too used to be marched down to Bennett Street to play football there.
    The smell of the brook at the far side, and the noise from the steam hammer at the foundry made for an interesting backdrop.
    Last year I went to look at the site and it's now a small indus... more >>

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    what happened to val Linda Hilary Robert Brooks? Thanks I'm an old friend xxxxx

  • Re: bishop Greer School. by Graham Corbett (Member 10271490) on 9-Mar-2012
    I remember Bishop Greer being built. I lived at 344 Gorton Lane next to Alices toffee shop at the time. I think it was in or about 1966. Havent got a clue why it closed. I was at St James at the time it was opened, and thought that I would go there by default at age 11 like most of my class mates from St Jimmys did. As it happend I ended up going to Wright Robinson High School instead. I drove alo... more >>

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family trip to Belle vue by Ken Gill (Member 10253824) on 3-Feb-2011
I remember going to Belle vue with my mam and dad and my sister Maureen who is 4 years older than me. We were both very young and we were walking around the cages looking at the different animals . I remember there being crowds of people. We were running excitedly back and forth then quick as a flash my sister climbed into a cage, I just stood and watched as she walked down what looked like an em... more >>   
  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Feb-2011
    Dear All,
    Sad day today, February 6th 1958, it's the 53rd anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster when Manchester United's plane crashed in Germany killing many of the country's finest players.
    I remember playing for St Mark's School on Bennett Street Rec. a week later, when we all wore black armbands, and the City came to an absolute stand-still.
    John.

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 10-Feb-2011
    I remember the day clearly too. I was in our back kitchen being fitted for my Rosebud Queen dress when my Dad and Uncle Sid came in and were talking to Mum and Aunty Muriel about it - I would have been 7. I was meant to have gone up to bed but sat on the stairs earwigging because I knew something had happened. But by the next day I was back to being excited about my dress. Strange how clear that ... more >>

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Feb-2011
    Carole, That's a lovely story, and funny, my dad cried too,
    John.

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 13-Feb-2011
    Memories Of Belle Vue. Does anyone remember the story of Indian Joe? He was a real American Red Indian who came over here in 1890 with Buffalo Bills wild west show! He married a girl from Gorton and worked in the elephant house at Belle Vue.Apparenly he was a natural with all the animals and a much respected animal trainer. The story goes that whilst the worst for drink one night he was crushed to... more >>

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 13-Feb-2011
    Does anyone who lived on or around Cambert Lane in the 60's and 70's remember a girl called Lynn McKEOWN.
    Lynn started work around 1964 as a kennel maid at Belle Vue Greyhound Stadium on Kirkmanshulme Lane.
    She later married a lad who was Manager of a club on Oxford Road in the city.
    She had an older brother called Dave McKEOWN who went to work as a ski instructor at Aviemore in Scotland.
    Her ... more >>

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 13-Feb-2011
    think that pub was the Royal Oak..wasnt Shellie out of corrie st. summit to do with that pub.( dad owned it??? )

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 14-Feb-2011
    Jack Duckworth(Bill Tarmey)used to have the Royal Oak on Cross Lane

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 14-Feb-2011
    Sorry It was his son who had it

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 14-Feb-2011
    Re the Oak on Cross Lane it was Bill Tarmeys son who had it

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Feb-2011
    Thanks guys,
    My first wife was born round the corner from that pub, on Woodhouse Street, surname GARBETT, and her father Joe GARBETT was an electrician at the Direct Works Department off Ashton Old Road.
    Still looking for Lynn McKEOWN, my first really serious girlfriend.
    Cheers guys,
    John.

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 22-Feb-2011
    tony lindsey had the plough on hyde rd , his daugher is sally lindsey(shelley out of corrie)

  • Re: family trip to Belle vue by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 22-Feb-2011
    thaks I thought my little brain cells were failling me...I could just about remember summit about " Shellie " and a pub in that area. many thanks for sorting that out...Still no pickies of Bishop Greer School.!!!!!ANYONE.

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pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Feb-2011
please put me out of my missery.... What was the name of the pubon the corner of Railway st, and Froxmere st. It was opposite gates of Beyer Peacocks may be clock tower?   
  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Feb-2011
    John,
    The Steelworks Tavern?

  • Re: pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 4-Feb-2011
    naw mate sorry you got that wrong..steelworks was at bessemere st. near taylor st.... i was on about, if you go up gorton lane to the Vulcan ( monkey ) and turn left into froxmere st. go along there untill you could go no further, you had to turn right, into railway st. its on this corner there was a pub.... thats what i need the name of. many thanks in advance.

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Feb-2011
    Sorry John.
    I have to admit that in all my years living in Gorton, I never ventured down there, but good luck mate, sorry I can't help on this one.
    John.

  • Re: pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 4-Feb-2011
    it's been a while since i have been down that street to ( 40yrs ). If I remember Follows and Bates was down there to.many thanks anyway.

  • Re: pub name by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 5-Feb-2011
    I can only think of The Railway on Cornwall/Chapman Street. Froxmer Street ends at Railway St and you can either go left or right. If you go right you come onto Cornwall St, and the Railway pub is there. Is that the one?

  • Re: pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 5-Feb-2011
    sorry you got wrong one too. if you turned off Chapman/ Cornwall st. into railway st.you would go down to froxmere st. it was on this corner.that there was a pub. also some big gates into Beyer/Peacocks,must have been main gates as there was a type of tower at gates. going down railway st. there was a number of streets ,dead ends on your left on one of them you could cut thrugh to Kirkham / goring... more >>

  • Re: pub name by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 6-Feb-2011
    I am sure it was called the Railway - know there is pub of the same name on Chapman St opposite Railway St, but sure this one had same name. I have had this conversation with other friend a while ago and asked her Mum, now in her 80's, who used to live on Railway St and she said the same thing. Can remember my sister (now 57)having schoolfriend called Mary who I'm sure lived in that pub in the 60'... more >>

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 6-Feb-2011
    Hi Carol,you are quite right about the Railway Pub its still open after a fashion because its being turned into flats,we called the bridge that went over the railway The Birdcage i used to collect Train Numbers on there, oh memories!

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Feb-2011
    Harold,
    Spot on with the bridge's name, everyone who lived in Gorton in the 50's knew it as the Birdcage, just because it was enclosed all over in heavy wire, and not the Monkey Bridge.
    I am still struggling to remember this pub though.
    John.

  • Re: pub name by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 7-Feb-2011
    The Railway you are talking about Harold is the one on Chapman St which is in the process of being converted into flats. Had a few good sessions in there before it closed, especially one afternoon we called in for 1(!) after my sisters and I been to Cemetery for what would have been Mum's birthday. Raised a glass for her, her Mum, Dad, Brother, then the other Gran,Grandad, aunties, uncles etc etc ... more >>

  • Re: pub name by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 7-Feb-2011
    Just remembered also meant to ask where I'd got Monkey Bridge from - was that the bridge near Varna St School which ran over the canal??

  • Re: pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Feb-2011
    good one isnt it,haha.. i remember the two sisters that lived in the pub,c1969ish. they also went to Bishop Greer.( Taylor st. )keep digging.

  • Re: pub name by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 7-Feb-2011
    John, I remember The Railway on Chapman St. opposite Railway street,Agreat little old style place ,. My mateBrian and me went in there 2 or 3 times a week around '69/'70. The landlord was called John as I remember,. he was a good bloke and if you drank splis like us you always got a good half in the pint pot along with your brown ale. His younger daughter was called Lisa but I can't remember the o... more >>

  • Re: pub name by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 7-Feb-2011
    By the way John, I have just thought. when I went in The Railway we used to let on to a young couple(obviously courting) in the room who seemed to be regulars like us! They always sat near the fire .She had fair ,longish hair and he was called John! wounder if that was you! My mate and me would line up all our empty brown ale bottles round the edge of the table during the night.,about 10 by the en... more >>

  • Re: pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Feb-2011
    sorry Chris, cant help you. it was one of the few pubs i did not visit...i left gorton 1971,for pastures new. but after my mother lived in Beswick, she moved into Keary close.next to the Railway pub on Cornwall /Chapman st. I used to visit,even then i never went into that pub.... does anybody remember the little pathway that ran up near there that led over the canal onto lees st.? ?keep digging but thanks anyway.

  • Re: pub name by barrie roberts (Member 10256887) on 7-Feb-2011
    I remember the path well, when i was at st james we had to go to Varna St school for wood working and metal working classes so we used to use it as a short cut, go down the path and over the canal there was also a small reservoir next to path that was later filled in.
    Ive been making enquirers about the pub name but no success yet.

    Barrie

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 7-Feb-2011
    I think the pub near the Birdcage that you are all trying to remember is the Albion as mentioned in earlier posts by Alan Bowden on this website

  • Re: pub name by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Feb-2011
    yes, Harold think you may be right....at last, now I can go to sleep.Thank you all for the trip. Another freebie down memory lane !!! now where was that?lol.

  • Re: pub name by mavis fluerty (Member 10062155) on 8-Feb-2011
    we also had to go to varna Street for cookery from All Saints, so had to go over the birdcage, there was a pub on the corner called the railway, also hugons was around there that made "Atora" Suet, I worked there in the offices after leaving school. Did anybody go by train to varna Street i know we got on at Belle Vue railway Staion but don't know where we got off!! Think it was near Lees Street s... more >>

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Feb-2011
    I always thought that HUGONS ATORA SUET WORKS was on the corner of Lees Street and Ashton Old Road, walking up Lees Street from Gorton, their large factory was on your right.
    On the opposite corner, on your left, was the Driving Test Centre where you booked and took your test.
    Anyone remember taking their driving test there?
    I took mine in 1963 in my Dad's new Singer Chamois saloon - he was ver... more >>

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Feb-2011
    Anyone remember a girl called Janet ELLOR, who went to Varna Street in the mid-60's?
    She lived on Gorton Lane near Peacocks' in her Dad's newsagents shop, and was a Girl Guide at St James' Church, and her brother Keith ELLOR was in the Church Lad's Brigade there too.
    John.

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Feb-2011
    I did some research on the Internet, and there is an article that mentions Railway Street and Froxmer Street, and it confirms that the pub everyone has been talking about is definitely THE ALBION.
    If you Google (FROXMER STREET, GORTON, PUB), there is an interesting article on this area.
    John.

  • Re: pub name by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 9-Feb-2011
    Well done John, good bit of detecttive work there. I can stop scratching MY head now,- could`nt remember the name either

  • Re: pub name by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 9-Feb-2011
    That's solved a problem that's driven me mad for years. Unfortunately it also means my memory is even worse than I thought it was but never mind.

  • Re: pub name by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 9-Feb-2011
    Don`t worry Carole, we have all hit that wall at some stage. Can`t find my glasses after I put the damn things down 4 minutes ago

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 9-Feb-2011
    Hi John i remember the Ellors very well, Barbara,the eldest girl married Stewart Whelpton who was in charge of the CLB until i took over from him,and kieth was a member as you say,they all used to live in Goring Ave at one time,Janet was the youngest but i havnt heard of Keith or Janet for ages

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 9-Feb-2011
    Hi John re Hugons it was half up Ogden lane coming from Chapman ST,

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 9-Feb-2011
    Hi Harold,
    Thanks for remembering the Ellor family for me.
    Barbara did indeed marry into the WHELPTON family, and you are right, she was the eldest daughter.
    Keith was the middle son and was in the CLB, and Janet, the youngest, was my girlfriend for a few years in the 1960's when I lived on Cambert Lane.
    Their Dad was a Policeman in the old Manchester City Police who retired, and who then bou... more >>

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Feb-2011
    Harold,
    I replied to an earlier entry on another page about Barbara Rossington from Cambert Lane, and St James' Choir.
    Let me know if I remembered the names you mentioned, and I named a few other people I remembered like Les Beswick.
    Canon Lewis, what a character he was, and Mrs Lewis was a real lady, a lovely person.
    John.

  • Re: pub name by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 12-Feb-2011
    Hi John. Just noticed a name you mentioned here.- Les Beswick. Do you know if he had a sweet and tobacco shop on Chapman St., on the other side from Highmesd St?.

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Feb-2011
    Hi Roy,
    I think you may be right, but I am not 100% sure and will contact our kid in Tyldesley and double check.
    Les was a tenor with a great voice and was a leading light in the choir at St James'.
    Will get back to you on that one mate.
    John.

  • Re: pub name by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 12-Feb-2011
    C#mon you Gorton people wats wrong with your merories the pub was called the Albion, a Groves and Witnall pub, just on the corner like the man said
    my mam and dad used to drink in there

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 13-Feb-2011
    For Roy COX:
    Roy,
    Have spoken at length with our kid, and we don't think that Les Beswick from the choir had a sweet shop on Chapman Street.
    We both think he lived on Gorton Lane.
    There was also a father and son, whose name we can't remember that lived on Gorton Lane, just on that block of houses that was opposite the Conservative Club or almost opposite the Post Office?
    Dad was a Churchwarde... more >>

  • Re: pub name by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 13-Feb-2011
    Thanks for that John, obviously another Les Beswick. Had he been the same one, he would have been married to my cousin. Thanks again for your time. Keep in touch, Cheers.

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 14-Feb-2011
    Hi all, Les Beswick who had the sweet shop on Chapman St was also in the choir at St JAMES CHURCH he was also the Verger at the time when i was Church Warden and a member of the Church Council,his son Paul was a member of the CLB,i joined the CLB in 1948 when Mr Woodward was the vicar,sadly Les died a few years ago he was a gentleman

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Feb-2011
    Harold,
    That's really sad.
    Les was indeed a gentleman, a very nice guy who I never heard have a bad word for anyone, a very genuine and kind man.
    When I left Gorton in late 1970 to live in Denton, Les would have still been in the choir.
    Sad news, but thanks for letting me know Harold, I will need to let Roy know that Les DID have the sweet shop he mentioned earlier (sorry Roy).
    John.

  • Re: pub name by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Feb-2011
    Hello John. Many thanks to you and Harold Wood re the info on Les Beswick. It has to be the same person as I remember him as indeed a gentleman, quiet spoken and a good living chap. There was a son Paul, and his wife Evelyn was my cousin. she had a sister Margaret, and their Mother was my Mother`s sister in law. they once lived in Crowther St off Highmead St. I spent a lot of time around therein t... more >>

  • Re: pub name by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Feb-2011
    For Harold WOOD:
    Harold,
    My brother Chris remembered the name of the Churchwarden who lived on Gorton Lane and who was a very smart gentleman, always dressed in a smart striped suite - his name was Mr DEAN, and his son was called Peter DEAN, who I think was in the CLB.
    Does he ring a bell mate?
    John.

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 19-Feb-2011
    Hi Chris yes i do remember the Deans,Harry the father was indeed a church warden at St James and Peter and David were in the CLB along with the Bates boys Roy and Alan who were neighbors,they lived in the row of houses on Gorton Lane along with the Williams whose father was a Chimney Sweep the best in Gorton,also on that row was the outdoor beer licence run by a chap called Nelson Clark,you could ... more >>

  • Re: pub name by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 19-Feb-2011
    Harrold, Spot on mate ,well remembered!

  • Re: pub name by julie (Member 10255407) on 19-Feb-2011
    Harold , Chris , has the Roy and Alan Bates that you knew got or had a brother Gordon Bates think the father might have been called George and mother Annie ? julie

  • Re: pub name by Chris Holmes (Member 10113648) on 19-Feb-2011
    Julie, Re: the Bates family, I only vaguely remember Alan and none of his family. Sorry I can't help Julie...Regards...Chris. H.

  • Re: pub name by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 23-Feb-2011
    For Julie
    Hi Julie the Bates who lived on Gorton Lane never had a brother there was only Roy and Alan i am still in touch with both of them Roy still lives in Manchester and Alan lives in Leek along with myself and two more lads Tommy & Joe we formed the All STAR SKIFFLE Group and played at the Follows and Bates Working Mens Club round about 1956 thats ages ago LOL Harold

  • Re: pub name by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 25-Apr-2011
    I think you'll find that the Albion on Aberdour St was a Threlfall's house. It certainly was in the 60s

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