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Whit Sunday by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-Sep-2011
Kids dressed up in their Whit week clothes, mum's on pins in case they ruined them and they would not be able to pawn them on Monday morning And silly old women shouting "God knows is own" as it poured down on the whit walks, all good fun And alot to look forward to at that time of year   
  • Re: Whit Sunday by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 9-Sep-2011
    I REMEMBER THE WHIT WALKS , GETTING UP SUNDAY MORNING ,PUTTING ON YOUR NEW CLOTHES THEN GOING ROUND TO FREINDS AND NEIGHBOURS SHOWING THEM OFF AND SOMETIMES THEY WOULD GIVE YOU SOME MONEY AND THEN OFF TO THE CONGRAGATIONAL CHURCH TO GATHER FOR THE WALKS UP CMABERT LANE GORTON LANE , CASSON ST, TAYLORS ST , IT SEEMED TO TAKE FOR EVER OR WAS IT BECAUSE I WAS SMALL.

  • Re: Whit Sunday by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 9-Sep-2011
    Yes it did seem a long walk Danny, especially if your new shoes were rubbing, at least the little girls had more of a chance of comfort in their whitend gollies, do you remember the crowd giving you a clap as you passed them?

  • Re: Whit Sunday by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Sep-2011
    I remember walking with St James' choir in the Whit Walks around Gorton, and all my mates heckling us because we used to wear blue cassocks and white surplices, and they thought it hilarious.
    The usual route was down Cambert Lane, right into Taylor Street, right into Gorton Lane,then up one of the side streets and criss-crossing Cambert Lane again, then onto Hyde Road, left into Gortoncross Stree... more >>

  • Re: Whit Sunday by francis wilcox (Member 10265187) on 11-Sep-2011
    Hy Mary lots of good times them days wonder how menney folks are still around that remember us will se you before we go back Frank

  • Re: Whit Sunday by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 11-Sep-2011
    Some of the best times I ever spent were in Openshaw at Whit Week. No matter how hard up parents were, they always bought their children new clothes even if they had to go into debt (which most did) and pay on the weekly. I always had a nice new suit, which normally came from Leons tailors on Hyde Road. I would get up early on Whit Sunday morning, have my breakfast, get all dolled up in my new sui... more >>

  • Re: Whit Sunday by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 11-Sep-2011
    Hi Frank fancy meeting you here, we can talk forever about those good old times, you must have many laughs to give us, you should come on here more, and don't forget this time to come to see us before you go back to the USA Cheers Mary Give Anna my love. X

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PLACARDS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-Sep-2011
Right you Gortonians! do you remember the wall placards around West Gorton, which do you remember? There was one near Belle view, with the mouth of a pelican open showing a row of guiness, it was there for years do you remember it? and behind Belle Vue one with a devils imp advertising chewing gum. and how about the belle vue circus and speedway posters do you remember them?   
  • Re: PLACARDS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-Sep-2011
    Sorry that should read Belle Vue, shame on me for spelling it veiw.

  • Re: PLACARDS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Sep-2011
    There was a large wall poster on Hyde Road near to the Prison Ground that urged us to go to North Wales using the trains from Exchange Station.
    It showed two small children making sandcastles on the beach at Rhyl.

  • Re: PLACARDS by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 11-Sep-2011
    At the south end of Mount Rd.,there was an engineering firm called Elliots, and on their roadside wall were some large plackards.One was for the Essoldo cinema,advertising the films,either showing or forthcoming. There was one for the Ardwick Hippodrome at one time,- does anyone recall that place?. there was the usual Guiness advert with the toucan. also one carried adverts for Colmans starch, Ste... more >>

  • Re: PLACARDS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Sep-2011
    Hi Roy,
    Yes I remember the Ardwick Hippodrome, directly opposite the Apollo Cinema -(where I learned to waltz at a Dancing School held in one of the cinema's large reception rooms).
    The Hippodrome had a cast-iron awning with a glass-paneled roof running round the Hyde Road and Higher Ardwick sides, and under which we used to queue to get to the entrance doors.
    I only went twice, both Christmas ... more >>

  • Re: PLACARDS by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 11-Sep-2011
    I remember the Hippodrome very well and went there on many occasions. The last time I went, Lonnie Donegan was the star attraction, with Des O'Connor appearing way down on the bill. Then I remember years later when Des O'Connor became a big star, him having Lonnie Donegan as about the third guest on his show. How times change, Lonnie must have thought at the time. Both of them great entertainers o... more >>

  • Re: PLACARDS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 11-Sep-2011
    Was what I called a Pelican a Toucan Roy? I don't know the differance.I never heard of a Toucan

  • Re: PLACARDS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Sep-2011
    Hello Mary, yes it was a toucan.

  • Re: PLACARDS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 11-Sep-2011
    Pelican, is a wunderful bird,
    It'sbeak can hold more than it's belly can. ha ha ha.

  • Re: PLACARDS by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Sep-2011
    like someone I know ha ha

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Colour changes. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 8-Sep-2011
Whilst round at my Mam and Dads house yesterday we got talking about how West Gorton use to be. One of the topics was the change in the colour of Ambulance's, the furthest back I could remember them were the purple and black Bedford J1 models with the chrome bells on the front bumper from Belle Vue St station. But my dad was saying he seems to remember brown Manchester Ambulances at one time, ( I ... more >>   
  • Re: Colour changes. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 8-Sep-2011
    Those little green vans you refer to belonged to the GPO ( General Post Office) I think this eventually became POT,- Post office Telephones. The GPO also had large lorries with trailers that carried telephone poles and heavy equipment. The father of my school pal a chap called Edwin Leeson came to grief one horrendous night going over Shap.On an icey road his trailer jackknifed and tried to `overt... more >>

  • Re: Colour changes. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 8-Sep-2011
    Thanks Roy, I've just Googled GPO vans and there they all were. Morris Minor 1000's - 5 cwt Thames and BMC J4's .... brilliant.

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Old Radios by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 6-Sep-2011
I have always been fascinated with old wireless sets. As a child living with my parents and grandparents, the radio was always on,- there were no TV`s then. Grandad had an old Cossor which had 3 inputs,- mains,an accumulater,and a 9 volt grid bias battery. The accumulater had to be taken to Hulses hardware shop on Mount Rd., for charging up. when we moved to Levenshulme, my Dad rented a Regentone ... more >>   
  • Re: Old Radios by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 7-Sep-2011
    I Remember the old accumulator Roy, my mum used to take it to be charged on Levenshulme Road,
    sometimes running late before the shop closed, funny how it was always the males who treasured the wireless, my dad used to tune in for hours, i can still hear the whistling and interferrance on the wireless, it seemed to take ages before he was satisfied with result.she would put the accumulator at th... more >>

  • Re: Old Radios by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Sep-2011
    I remember taking my gran's accumulator to be re-charged by a man who ran a cycle and radio shop on Clowes Street, on the opposite street corner to the Union Chapel, close to Dr Scott's surgery and Bert Hall's butcher's shop.
    It looked like a junk shop when you went in, but you could by anything electrical in there, especially light bulbs, bakelite wall switches, pull-switches and flex, fuses and... more >>

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Names by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 5-Sep-2011
Do you like your christian name? and what did you want to be called? I think more women are disatisfied on this one than men. Mine is Mary, how old fashion can you get then that? Mind you I know a Tuesday and a Bracken, (I'm saying nothing on that) do you know any unusual names?   
  • Re: Names by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 5-Sep-2011
    My mothers maiden name was GIELTY, its from an island off the west coast of Ireland.....Guess what my middle name is, john Gielty Carlton.!!!!That caused a few skuffles in the playground, untill I dropped it.mind you I have been on a few occasions ( guilty ) haha. I know a man here in Mayo and his middle name is MARY.!!! He says he had no choice in the matter, maybe mines not that bad afterall.

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Swearing by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 4-Sep-2011
Why do people have to come out with four letter words in a respectable conversation? is it that they are not educated enough to choose a better word ?   
  • Re: Swearing by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 4-Sep-2011
    Margaret, I confess to using bad language occasionally, mainly when I am riled. but I don't use it in normal conversation. It annoys me that pubs allow it now whereas at one time you would be told to cut it out or leave. The vault was different of course, and barmaids had to put up with it. But some people use it every fourth word, and it just isn't clever, even when their children are with them. ... more >>

  • Re: Swearing by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 4-Sep-2011
    And sorry Mary, but you're not Margaret. My mistake.

  • Re: Swearing by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 4-Sep-2011
    I know some nice down to earth people who use this kind of talk but there is a time and a place, perhaps I feel too touchy but I feel a man doesn'nt respect a woman when he comes out with it to her.

  • Re: Swearing by Janet Proctor (Member 10266423) on 16-Oct-2011
    I've been with my husband for over 30 years, and i've never ever heard him use bad language. I dont use it either, and i cringe when i'm with anyone that uses four letter words

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TOPICS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-Sep-2011
AM I GETTING THE TOPICS GOING AGAIN ALRIGHT PAUL? TROUBLE IS I THINK I AM ONE OF THE OLDEST ON HERE FROM GORTON, AND I AM AFRAID TO GO TOO FAR BACK.   
  • Re: TOPICS by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 2-Sep-2011
    Hello Mary do you still live in West Gorton and how long have you lived in the area some of my past relations lived in Thomas street and clewes street and my Dad was born in Robert Street. His sister lived in Thomas street untill the late 60s and he never spoke to her for 60 years never knew why its seems odd Regards Joyce

  • Re: TOPICS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 2-Sep-2011
    Let me know their names Joyce! Perhaps I will know them, I have lived in West Gorton all my life, and as you see I am in my late seventies now (Don't feel it though) I was on the prison ground as a child and attending St Francis school, we must know a lot of people in Gorton you and I, cheers Mary

  • Re: TOPICS by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 3-Sep-2011
    Thank you Mary for getting back to me The Name was Carson and Edgerton they lived at no 132 & 134 Thomas St My Dads youngest sisier was Ethel she also had a daughter called Ethel but i dont know her married name i think she lived in Thomas St until the late 60s then moved to Cheadle. My Dad was listed as living in the 1911 at 74 clowes Street with his Dad and Uncle. I was born in Hampden Grove a... more >>

  • Re: TOPICS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 3-Sep-2011
    None of the names you mentioned rings a bell, Joyce, and yet the name Rita Gibson sounds familier, we never knew the boys at the Monestary because they were not mixed classes
    but as you say, bet we have passed each other in the street many times, and even let on, it's surprising how many people we knew by sight only, and you must admitt we were all a friendly lot in those days, we had nothing to ... more >>

  • Re: TOPICS by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 6-Sep-2011
    Hi Mary Thank you once again when you said the name Rita Gibson rang a bell she was the queen round about 1948/9 it was a big honer for her parents in them days. Hope you had a good week end i have just got back from a short visit to see our daughter in Wales and fetched plenty of home grown veg back what a joy' Regards Joyce

  • Re: TOPICS by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 6-Sep-2011
    Mary forgot to ask you do recall a tap dancing school on Hyde Road called Elsie Waltons i think her mother had a butchers shop in Clowes Street

  • Re: TOPICS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 6-Sep-2011
    Yes I remember an Elsie Walton's tap dancing class Joyce! But can't remember where the shop actually was on Hyde road, did it have a Black stained glass window? That is where I remember Rita,s name from, her being a May crowning Queen, it was certainly a honour to crown "Our Lady" I recall the child had to attend Sunday mass without a miss for 12 month's, wrong really, because the mum's dragged th... more >>

  • Re: TOPICS by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 7-Sep-2011
    Hi Mary. In your message yesterday, you mentioned taking your accumulater to Levenshulme Rd. My Mum knew a lsdy who either worked at,or owned a shop there,- I think it was a greengrocers`,not 100% sure though. I remember the name Allcock and I think she knew her from when they went to Old Hall Drive school. Does this ring any bells?.

  • Re: TOPICS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-Sep-2011
    No I was too young to remember any shop names Roy, we lived in Hemsworth Road (near Melons playing fields) until I was six, then moved to West Gorton in Forbes Street. I remember though old Hall drive School, I went there under five, until the Sacred Heart took me in ,they wouldn't take under fives at that time.

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PREMONITION DREAMS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-Sep-2011
Has anyone got a tale to tell, my dream happend many years ago...... Two of my daughter in laws were about to give birth, after three son,s myself, and just two grandson's,I was yearning for a little girl by now, I hoped the one with the two lads wouldn't be the one to give me the girl, because she had been so depriving me of cuddling the boys, so I wished for the other daughter in law to have th... more >>   
  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 1-Sep-2011
    maybe this will help...www.dreaminterpreting.co.uk

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    About 17 years ago, I was driving from Gloucestershire with my son, aged 15, who I had just picked up from school, and we were on our way to Penzance in Cornwall for a weekends' sea fishing.
    I was divorced at the time, but we went away every couple of weeks, just the two of us.
    He started to tell me about a teacher who was giving him a bit of a hard time at school because he would not have his h... more >>

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 3-Sep-2011
    Someone wanted to show your son and you what Mr Potter looked like in old age, wish I could have read your mind as you looked at him, was you thinking "yes you old ..... you gave me a dog's life at school! " made you both remember a lovely day out together anyway, (everything happen's for a reason I believe.)

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 3-Sep-2011
    Only yesterday morning I dreamt that I was starving, I badly needed a shave and a pee, and that I needed to get up for work. When I woke up it was all true.

    Beat that!

    (Ignore me, just... more >>

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 3-Sep-2011
    Peter
    The other night I was dreaming that the phone was ringing and when I woke up it was. How weird is that then.
    Seriously though years ago I was walking down a long corridor at the MRI when a phone was ringing as I was passing the booth. There was no one about so I answered it. The voice on the other end of the line asked for someone and I explained where I was and it was a public pay phone. ... more >>

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 4-Sep-2011
    That is spooky Dave. Billions to one chance there. Me and my wife went to see Poltergeist I think in 1982 at the Odeon. It was Saturday night and I'd had a couple of pints beforehand. About an hour into the film I needed to go to the loo, and I noticed a guy getting up from his seat a few rows in front, and I entered the toilets behind him. We stood there minding our own business at the ablutions ... more >>

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 4-Sep-2011
    THANKS EVERYONE FOR WRITING ON THIS TOPIC THERE MUST BE MORE PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING IN, I AM ENJOYING THE FEED BACK

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Sep-2011
    My brother Christopher is the most level-headed man I know, and certainly not prone to fantasy or exaggeration, but told me this story a few years ago:
    About 9:00 am one morning he was alone in his house near Leigh and was in the bath, nobody else was in the house at all, when he heard his front door slam.
    He jumped out of the bath, wrapped a towel round himself and walked to the top of the stai... more >>

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 4-Sep-2011
    Another weird experience I had with a telephone was about 10 years ago when I was living in a sheltered housing scheme with my partner who was the warden. We were preparing food downstairs for the Christmas party in the day room kitchen when she asked me to go to the office upstairs to fetch some keys.When I was going into the office I could hear our phone ringing in the flat next door to the offi... more >>

  • Re: PREMONITION DREAMS by Kenneth Fuller (Member 10267312) on 26-Nov-2011

    John, I believe the technical name for this strange unexplained psychic phenomenon is falling asleep in the bath and having a (perhaps unusually vivid) dream.

    Also Dave, if your granddad had the power to physically emanate and wave to elderly ladies, why didn’t he just appear to you and warn you of the danger, rather than going round the houses using ethereal telephones? The answers are the... more >>

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vale cottage by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 1-Sep-2011
vale cottage closed on 30/8/11 , to hard to make a living in pubs these days unless you can pack it every night and if you do that the rents go up,too many people wanting to much out of a pint,how long it will be closed i dont know ,John and Alison will be sorely missed.   
  • Re: vale cottage by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 1-Sep-2011
    So sad... had many a pint in there ( underage )then sneaking through to see if my parents were in the Lord Nelson,before having one in there.
    Of course that was MANY moons ago. thanks for the heads up,I will now delete it off my places to visit when I return to GB.

  • Re: vale cottage by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-Sep-2011
    That is a shock. The country is changing and not for the better. The Vale was always one of the classier places. Near me, the pubs are hanging on because they allow kids in pushchairs, and generally not being choosy about who they let in. That then kills it for people who just want a pleasant environment, so they stay away. Pubs will soon be for the all day career-drinkers soon, and many already are.

  • Re: vale cottage by vic godden (Member 10264876) on 1-Sep-2011
    Sad to see a good pub closing, it was a hidden gem in Gorton. Hopefully it will re-open

    Possibly its location stopped it picking up custom from passing trade.

  • Re: vale cottage by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    I can't believe it!
    Another institution, one of the oldest pubs in Gorton, closed down.
    If it fails to re-open, and let's all hope that it does, the Council should open it up as a small museum of Gorton Life.
    I bet they don't even consider it. Sad sad sad.

  • Re: vale cottage by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    I can't believe it!
    Another institution, one of the oldest pubs in Gorton, closed down.
    If it fails to re-open, and let's all hope that it does, the Council should open it up as a small museum of Gorton Life.
    I bet they don't even consider it. Sad sad sad.

  • Re: vale cottage by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Sep-2011
    Hi John, Been trying to recall just where the Vale Cottage is situated. My Grandfather used to mention it and I think he must have been a customer there back then. At one time he lived in Wilson St. opposite Brookfield church, and used to have a gill or two in the Lord Nelson which Is still there,- that place must have a bit of history attatched to it, do you know anything about it?.

  • Re: vale cottage by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    Hi Roy,
    As far as I recall, the Vale Cottage was on Kirk Street, near to the Hyde Road end.
    It was not too far from the Lord Nelson.
    I understand it was an ale house in the 1600's, which makes it one of the oldest surviving pubs in Manchester.
    It would be dreadful if it went to ruin, it should be used as a Gorton Museum I think, something to house Gorton's records and the memories of others.
    ... more >>

  • Re: vale cottage by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 3-Sep-2011
    It is very sad to see the Vale close i spent my Stag night in there on June 9th 1961,i have been in lots of times for a Pub Lunch,what is happening to our pubs,is it because people have'nt got the money,perhaps it will open again in the not so distant future i hope so

  • Re: vale cottage by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 8-Sep-2011
    That is terrible news! living just off chapman street, the Vale Cottage became my local throughout the late 70's and early 80's. I even worked there for a while when Ron Almond was the landlord.. It used to be packed on fridays and Saturdays... Christmas Eve drinks in the vale became a tradition...My mum and dad tell me how many pubs are closing down in the UK because of lack of trade, but I neve... more >>

  • Re: vale cottage by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 8-Sep-2011
    thats the problem with most pubs these days.They are only packed fridays and saturdays , but the pub companies want a weeks rent. which with all the other bills cannot be earnt

  • Re: vale cottage by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-Sep-2011
    I think the biggest blow to West Gorton was when all the Chester's houses closed down, it seemed such a popular beer, The Harrington The Vic and what was the other's, my dad could name them all, think he went into them that often. and who remembers the old ladies with their outdoor jug of beer?

  • Re: vale cottage by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Sep-2011
    My aunt Mary Carroll, who lived on the Prison Ground used to work behind the bar at The Unicorn on Hyde Road for years.
    The bar was always full, every day, every night, and I can't understand why all these pubs closed, surely there was a case for keeping at least some of them open?
    I know a lot of houses were pulled down, but why did they not leave a few open for the redeveloped areas?

  • Re: vale cottage by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 18-Sep-2011
    I remember going in the Unicorn on a Saturday night in the hot summer of 76. We would have 3-4 drinks in there before going into the Belle Vue Disco/ballroom where they charged the outrageous sum of 32p for a pint of bitter and 30p for mild. The Unicorn sold the creamiest pint of Boddingtons for about 18p. That was considered cheap even then.

  • Re: vale cottage by Ed Cars (Member 10272780) on 16-Apr-2012
    Dear All
    I am a new member to this site having only found it today,My name is Eddy Cars (Edward) and I was born in Gorton in 1954 at number 8 Britons Row Gorton,Those that are about my age or older will recall that the Vale was just around the corner from Britons Row,it was the hub of that part of Gorton and in fact my Grandfather was a Bookies Runner,where he plied his trade from the Vale.
    I ha... more >>

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The Strap by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 31-Aug-2011
Come on own up, how many of you had the strap at school, and what for? I did for being late for school, if you were late three times in a row you got the strap, didn't do much good though, one of my son's was careful and tried to avoid getting the strap, because he was frightend of it, then one time he got it, and misbehaved after, because he wasn't afraid of it anymore.   
  • Re: The Strap by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 1-Sep-2011
    During my last three years at Thomas Street School

    (50-52)I seemed to atract the STRAP more than anyone else. I got to know all the tricks to soften the blows including whiping my hands away at the last moment I must say though that wasn't thebest of them.

  • Re: The Strap by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-Sep-2011
    Did you know my sister in law Derek at Thomas St School, she was Jean Hartley

  • Re: The Strap by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 1-Sep-2011
    Hi Mary & Derek
    Had the strap a few times at Openshaw Tech and deserved it for not doing my homework.When I was at Thomas Street I had the strap in front of all the school in assembley.I was accused of kicking a girl from another school on my way home from school. I was not the person who did it but I just took the punishment. The strap never hurt on my hands but on my backside it smarted a bit. ... more >>

  • Re: The Strap by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-Sep-2011
    What year was you at Openshaw Tech Dave? i had a nephew who was there he is in his fifties now

  • Re: The Strap by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 1-Sep-2011
    I left OT in 1967. Seth Adams the Tech Drawing teacher gave me the strap on my backside for not doing my homework. The strap came down with one almighty crack (The Noise that is) and all the class was amazed as I did not flinch. I had a block of callard and bowser caramel toffee in my back pocket.He managed to break it into nice bite sized chunks.
    Dave

  • Re: The Strap by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 2-Sep-2011
    You should have done the honourable thing Dave and asked him to do it again after removing the toffee. ;-)

  • Re: The Strap by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 2-Sep-2011
    I think the honourable thing would of been to offer him a chunk of the toffee,and hope he'd choke but of course I didn't, he was a sadistic maniac.

  • Re: The Strap by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    We had a PE Teacher at Central Grammar School called Mr Potter, an ex-RAF Officer with a dreadful temper.
    Given the slightest reason, he would use a slipper on any of us boys.
    The slipper was about size 13, brown canvas and looked to be years old.
    The thing that hurt was that he always placed a golf ball inside the slipper at the toe end, and believe me, when you got that thing high up on your ... more >>

  • Re: The Strap by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 3-Sep-2011
    Hi Mary I remember the name but can't put a face to the name.What was her final year at Thomas street.

  • Re: The Strap by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 3-Sep-2011
    Derek there was a big family of Jean's brothers at Thomas Street school, Jean left in 1950. she had an Older brother by two years (Edgar), and younger brother,s by two years between them Ronnie, Raymond ,David, Keith and Brian, all lived in Savoy Street, their dad was foreman at the Corona cinema Birch street, guess you would have known one of them.

  • Re: The Strap by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 3-Sep-2011
    Mary I guess it would be Edgar that I knew although I don't remeber much about him.

  • Re: The Strap by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Sep-2011
    I was only on the recieving end of the strap once,- for talking in lines. This was at Spurley Hey, and the blow was dealt by a Mr Pearson. He was`nt a big fellow, but boy, could he weald that strap. It stung for quite some time, and it certainly shut me up,- in lines anyway!. Job done!!.

  • Re: The Strap by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 4-Sep-2011
    You are quite right about Mr. Pearson, Roy. I saw him strap half the class on one occasion for taking the rip out of our French teacher Miss Ind. I have only ever seen it brought down on someone's hand with such ferocity once before, and that was when I had the strap off Mr. Walmsley on one occasion for something I didn't really do, but I was there when it was done so got it just the same. I had n... more >>

  • Re: The Strap by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 13-Sep-2011
    I would get the strap for something I didn't do. It was always my homework.

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Street Bonfires by Karen Hinds (Member 10264686) on 27-Aug-2011
My Dad told me about Bonfire night when he was a kid apparently each street would build a bonfire and you would take turns to 'defend' it from others taking things from it.
Sounded like fun, now you wouldn't get away with it now you have to stand so far back from the fire you can't even feel the heat.
My dad is Alfred Atkinson born 1943 son of Alfred and Fran Atkinson.
any one else remember this.
  
  • Re: Street Bonfires by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Aug-2011
    Yes, we would build them so you could get at least two people inside it to shelter from the rain. I recall tempers getting frayed when a raid took place.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 29-Aug-2011
    I remember we used to raid other peoples bonfire wood which they had stored in the back gardens. We also used to nick "sleepers" off Jackson's clay pit; they were used for the lines that the trucks ran on from one side of Jackson's to the next. Our bonfire used to last for three days or so, we would keep going every day to put more wood on. We always had it on the red wreck at the top of Hexham Ro... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 30-Aug-2011
    John Holmes.You know that case you were working on about the missing railway sleepers on Jacksons? You've cracked it, see above.
    :-)

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 30-Aug-2011
    Statute of Limitations I think, John. Ha, ha. The cocky was useless anyway - "High Voice" we used to call him. They must have lost some sleepers over the years though when I come to think about it? It's a wonder the trucks had anything to run on.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 30-Aug-2011
    I remember collecting bonny wood with my mates and we liberated an empty barrel from behind the labour club facing St Marks Church. I had just dismantled it with my grandads firemans axe when a policeman appeared. I was with Ray Hatton, Paul Beard, Billy Briggs and Linda Briggs. Billy Briggs dad was the local bookie and paid the £5 deposit that was due on the barrel.
    Dave

  • Re: Street Bonfires by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Aug-2011
    Peter, NOW you tell me, 40 years too late! :)

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 31-Aug-2011
    Hello again Jack. just seen your post about bonfire night,- good memories. We had ours on the same "red wreck" on the corner of Lowther Ave, but on the other side of Barnard Rd. Bet you lot nicked our wood more than once!! Happy days yeh!! Did you know Mr Dootson the policeman who lived on the corner of Lowther Ave/Barnard Rd?.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 31-Aug-2011
    No. I never nicked your wood Roy, it was mainly the O'Connors around the Manby Road and Aylesby Avenue areas. Yes, I knew Mr Dootson very well. I remember a neighbour of mine, I won't mention his name, who was a bloody nutter to say the least, marrying Mr. Dootson's daughter. Both parents went absolutely ballistic, but they didn't stop it going ahead.

    I suppose you would have known the Dalton... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 1-Sep-2011
    Hello again Jack. Re your last post. I do remember the Daltons from that time. You mention the O`Connors, was one of them called Billy?, if so I am sure he was at Spurley When I was there. Also, was Mr. Dootson`s daughter called Kathleen?, a strange lady indeed. Two of my friends I had at the time were Muriel Cork,- lived on Barnard Rd., her brother and father was a fireman and driver at Longsigh... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 3-Sep-2011
    Yes, Billy O'Connor was one of the brothers. I think Dootson's daughter was called Kathleen, and she must have been strange to marry my neighbour because he was round the twist. Can't recollect Muriel Cork but I do remember Barbara Corlett. My sister Jean had a very good friend called Connie Ayres who lived in Longsight Road, she was the daughter of Mrs Ayres who lost her three sons when their shi... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Sep-2011
    Jack, its me again. That Billy o`Connor,- what a rapscallian he was, always in bother.Another family, The Beresfords.we all steered clear of that lot,- they lived two doors down from the passageway that went from Barnard Rd, accross Hexham Rd., to Mount Rd., nearly opposite the Gorton Mount pub. Another lad who was at school with me was Harry Anderson, another trouble maker. it was him who persuad... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 4-Sep-2011
    Hello again Roy. Yes, I knew the Beresford quite well though they were older than myself. Harry Anderson was a good friend of my brother Ken, whilst his brother, Vic Anderson, was a good friend of mine with whom I played football both with and against him at school. Vic of course went on to play for Manchester City. Harry turned out to be a lovely lad as did Vic. Harry was a PT Instructor in the a... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 5-Sep-2011
    Jack, thanks for your great reply. I recall Harry Anderson did become a decent chap.He went to work at Crossley Motors in the body shop. I worked there myself for a few years before I joined the Air Force.I also knew Jean Holland. She may not remember me, but if you speak to her again,ask her if she remembers the Wilkinsons,they had a daughter called Margaret. also a Hilda Beaumont, she lived in t... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 5-Sep-2011
    RE Harry Anderson. What a great guy!!! I had him as a pe teacher at Bishop Greer ( replacing Mr Pilling ) and Harry was also Our Youth Club Leader ( boss ) at West Gorton Center for Young People. Think I heard he went into the pub trade, then went to Spain, somewhere.Thanks for that memory..

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 5-Sep-2011
    Just been reading your remark Roy about your grandad Hulse, the name Hulse is I believe on my family tree, gran reckond we were related to Sir Joseph Whitworth, but it has never been prove.
    Her parents were called Fitton and she used to say." Go to Gawsworth hall in Macclesfield, and you will find out all about my family " I have been a few times, but never got any satisfaction.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 5-Sep-2011
    Hello there Mary. An interesting remark there about the name Hulse. I have tried several times to trace Grandad`s name ( Arthur)without success. My Grandmother was Martha (nee Partington) a mill girl from Hindley. they once lived in Wilson St,and before that, in Far Lane.Information is a bit thin on the ground,and the last of that generation passed away only recently.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 5-Sep-2011
    The only Hulse I remember Roy was the Hulse who had the Ironmongers on Mount Road, but I think he lived on East Road, though I maybe wrong with that. I will ask Jean Holland about what you have said the next time I speak to her.

    As regards Harry Anderson going into the pub game John, I think you will find that it was his brother Jeffrey who went into the pub game and then opened a bar in Spain... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 5-Sep-2011
    Funny how these names crop up amongst friends, I go on face book now and again (Don't like it really, but go on to get news of distant relatives) Anyway I noticed that a niece of mine in Shropshire has a friend with the surname "Hulse" By the way it is a pleasure to talk with level headed people on Gorton Knowhere after Facebook, what charactors you get on facebook! even our own young members of ... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Sep-2011
    I lived opposite a Hulse family who lived on Cambert Lane, on its corner with Rowsley Street, between 1960 and 1970.
    Father was called Fred Hulse, he had one eye, and I can't remember his wife's name.
    They had twin boys, Raymond and Alan, who both attended St. Gregory's Grammar School, Ardwick.
    Alan Hulse went on to be an actor, appearing on Coronation Street and a lot of Jewson adverts.
    Do th... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 6-Sep-2011
    Thanks for passing on that information John, but I dont think there is a connection there re the Hulses (Cambert Lane)

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 6-Sep-2011
    Mary. I have just read your comments about facebook etc., and I have to agree with you there. I too use it on occasion as my son got me on to it a while ago. as far as I am concerned,it is to contact friends and relations, several who are in Droylsden. Most of the stuff on there is childish drivel, and comments no one wants to read. A young lady I know who is thirty and married puts photos of her ... more >>

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 6-Sep-2011
    To Jack Forshaw. Further to our chats on here, I recently unearthed a School photo. This is one of class 4A which I was in. Harry Anderson is on there, and also a few names I can remember but not all I`m afraid. On one side is Mr Simpson our teacher and on the other Mr Martindale. I have often wondered what happened to these lads and what they did in life. If we ever meet, I shall let you see it.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Sep-2011
    for Roy...Please see your faceBook Messages, Ta.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 7-Sep-2011
    Thanks Roy, I will look forward to seeing that photo, there is even a chance my brother, Ken Forshaw, is it it. Just depends on the year. Have you got my email address? If not it is: Jack_Forshaw@talktalk.net

  • Re: Street Bonfires by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 8-Sep-2011
    For John Carleton. Could you please let me have your email address again, it seems to have disappeared off FB. I can then send the photo to you. Thanks.

  • Re: Street Bonfires by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Sep-2011
    ok, no probs..and THANKS.....jandaozz@gmail.com

    looking forward to it, ta mate.

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Tracing Family by Karen Hinds (Member 10264686) on 27-Aug-2011
Hi,
I know my Mum and Dad have connections with Clowes street and I think Bennett street.
They got married at st marks in 1966.
Alfred Atkinson(b 1943 and Brenda Rigby(b 1946)
I think my dad went to St James but I don't think he liked... more >>
  
  • Re: Tracing Family by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Aug-2011
    Searching Alfred ATKINSON:
    I have looked carefully on Ancestry.co.uk records and cannot find a reference for the birth or marriage of Alfred Atkinson.
    Have you any idea where he was born, did he have a middle name, where was he married and have you any idea of the full name and place of birth of his wife?
    If you want to e-mail me instead, its:
    j.holmes47@sky.com

  • Re: Tracing Family by Karen Hinds (Member 10264686) on 27-Aug-2011
    I think he was born cheshire 22 jun 1912 mothers maiden name Hallam. He was married 1933 to Frances Duff 1933 but don't know which church but it was Manchester. Died 1974.
    I think his dad was frederick Atkinson mother annie Hallam, but can't find any reference to marriage.

  • Re: Tracing Family by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Aug-2011
    Karen,
    Give me a few days, let me see if I can help you,
    John.

  • Re: Tracing Family by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Aug-2011
    Karen,

    You will need to look at this and verify that the facts are correct as far as you know, and this would be your start point if they are correct:

    1) Alfred ATKINSON was born on 22nd June 1912 at Stockport, Cheshire, his mother being a Hallam.
    His Birth Certificate Reference is shown to be JAS19... more >>

  • Re: Tracing Family by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 1-Sep-2011
    Does any body know what happened to Elizabeth (betty) taylor who left Thomas street school in july 1952.

  • Re: Tracing Family by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    Derek, give me her approximate year of birth and I will try to find something out for you.

  • Re: Tracing Family by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 3-Sep-2011
    John betty was born in July 1937.

  • Re: Tracing Family by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Sep-2011
    Derek,

    Have done some digging, unfortunately there are a few few Elizabeth Taylors born around that time in Manchester, here are the ones that seem to fit:

    Elizabeth Taylor, b AMJ 1937 Mother: Sellors
    Elizabeth Taylor, b JAS 1937, Mother... more >>

  • Re: Tracing Family by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 5-Sep-2011
    Thanks John for your help tracing betty. I think the name Whyatt seems closest,the marriage year seems about right but I lost track of her after that.

  • Re: Tracing Family by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Sep-2011
    Derek, no problem, any time.
    If your assumption is correct - (that Elizabeth Taylor married Brian Whyatt in JFM 1957), they had two children subsequent to that marriage:
    Lesley E Whyatt, b September 1958 at Manchester
    David B Whyatt, b June 1962 at Manchester.
    There are no other births registered against their names, and unfortunately any more detail would be contained in their marriage certif... more >>

  • Re: Tracing Family by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 6-Sep-2011
    Once again John thanks for your efforts on my behalf. I think Betty and Brian and the two children are the ones I am looking for.

  • Re: Tracing Family by lee michelle roseweir nee tomlinson (Member 10251311) on 31-Dec-2011
    hi my dad(tommy/bert tomlinson) was a good friend of ur dads i remember him always talking about him.

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SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 18-Aug-2011
I REMEMBER DURING THE SIX WEEK HOLS GOING TO RYDER BROW PRIMARY SCHOOL FOR MY DINNERS ALSO A COUPLER OF YEARS LATER GOING TO SPURLEY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE YOUTH CLUB BUT IN THE MORNING ,FOR TRIPS OUT , ONE OF THE TRIPS WAS DOWN THE BRIDGEWATER CANAL ON A BARGE, I REMEMBER WE HAD TO STOP TO LET THE SWING BRIDGE OPEN TO LET A SHIP FULL,
HAPPY TIMES
  
  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 18-Aug-2011
    Hi Danny
    I remember gaining a free pass for Gorton Baths and spent a good part of the six weeks hols swimming. The only trouble was by the end of the day after all day in the pool my skin looked like tripe. Still it was great and I would be back the next day.
    Dave

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by ronnie chesworth (Member 10264367) on 18-Aug-2011
    i remember swimming with mates in gorton resavouior.and looking for cattapillars in sunny brow park ,they always seemed like long hot sunny days ..went home when hungry.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 19-Aug-2011
    Looking for frogs and toads under stones at the "Frog Island" at the top of Hemsworth Road, or rafting in the 'swamps' over the back of Mellands, not far from the trainyards/cemetery. Playing in the old air raid shelters close by. Fishing for tiddlers in Debdale reservoir, taking sandwiches and water and being out all day.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 19-Aug-2011
    for Ronnie, did you live on casson st, near the scrap yard, and go to bishop greer.? If so we used to knoch about together.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 19-Aug-2011
    for Ronnie, see also this page GORTON FAIRS.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 19-Aug-2011
    AND WE NEVER CAUSED ANY TROUBLE

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 19-Aug-2011
    JUMPERS FOR GOAL POSTS

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 20-Aug-2011
    A rope swing on a tree over the canal. Trying to build a raft that would float properly on the canal. Whitewashing back yards and outside lavs for not a lot of money. Kids these days haven't got a clue if it aint got button to press or a screen to watch they're lost.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 20-Aug-2011
    Picking hot pitch off the streets and making a bomb by wrapping the pitch round one end of a lolly stick and pushing a match down it, then throwing it onto the pavement.
    Building a "bogey" with my mates, trying to find wheels for the axles.
    Staying out till the sun went down, when Mother would shout at the top of her voice - "John, come in and get this steak and chips", and then running in to fi... more >>

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by ronnie chesworth (Member 10264367) on 20-Aug-2011
    for john yes i used to live 13 casson st and i did go to bishop geer i was in the french teachers class ithink her name was banks iread some the orther comments and it was me that woked at jerinas malcolm allcock went in the army as far as i knoww please do get touch

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 20-Aug-2011
    for Ronnie, hiya mate long time no see.
    catch me on face book..John G Carlton.( ireland ) or email @ Jandaozz@gmail.com

    looking forward to hearing from you.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 20-Aug-2011
    what about my favourit trick...catch a moggy ( cat ) then sittng on the roof of the outside bog and dropping the said moggy, onto unsuspecting passer bye's. great fun from my point of view ..bet the people pissed their pants, haha. was I wild YESSSSSSSSS.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 22-Aug-2011
    Last week in July, first week in August: Once-a-year taxi ride to Exchange Station, walking with suitcases over the filthy River Irwell to the platforms, train ride to Abergele, walk from Pensarn to Towyn, to Owen's Camp and two weeks in a shoe-box of a caravan and burnt to a crisp - oh the joy of those summer holidays in North Wales.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by lee michelle roseweir nee tomlinson (Member 10251311) on 23-Aug-2011
    for ronnie do u mean malcolm boocock from forbes st? if so hes on facebook,take care,lee.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Aug-2011
    What did you look forward to on your return to school from the six weeks' holiday?
    The smell of freshly-varnished classroom floors, a new tin of crayons, a new wooden ruler with no ink on it, exercise books with no writing in them, a shining white ink-well and a new nib in your wooden pen, a different picture on your hook for your "gollies" bag (will I be a Red Ball this year or a Yellow Banana?)... more >>

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Aug-2011
    The bell, and then HALF TERM ! ! ! lol.

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by cw (Member 10242991) on 12-Sep-2011
    hi just been reading about the six weeks holidays great fun can anyone remenber building rafts with telegraph pole in the ponds behind spurley hey school

  • Re: SCHOOL 6 WEEK HOLS by dave hodkinson (Member 10266434) on 28-Oct-2011
    hello all, just reading John Holmes account of the six weeks holidays , and I can relate to what your are saying, happy days no chips or mobiles no internet just simple pleasures. This is a sign of getting older. But without the tech I would,nt be sending this! as I say Happy Days.

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NEW ... West Gorton plans. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 18-Aug-2011
Here is something to catch the attention of all you old West Gortonian's ......
I've just found plans to new road layouts for the revamp of the present West Gorton estate. It seems they are to open up some of the existing cul-de-sacs they built in the 70's, and a new road is to be built around the outside of the houses.
It will run over the route of the old Cromwell St, Donnison St and Norton ... more >>
  
  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Aug-2011
    Hey Peter....... No matter which road we take we all end up in the ASYLUM, sooner or later...come and join me, haha ok time for my meds.!!!!

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-Aug-2011
    Paul,
    I was born half-way between Hyde Road and Gorton Lane at 124 Clowes Street.
    The exact spot is now covered over by the Labour Club which sits at the Gorton Lane end of that row of shops.
    Does it look as though anything on that site is to be demolished please?

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 19-Aug-2011
    Hiya John,
    It's looking as if it shouldn't be to long untill the club and shops close down for demolision. What was the new St Mark's school came down around May this year, but they have already put up a few houses and a part built block of flats on the site. Covering what was the Spurgeon St to Deepdene St area.

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 20-Aug-2011
    Hi Paul,
    Now you've really started my old grey matter churning when you mentioned Spurgeon Street, which was one of the few genuine Play Streets in West Gorton, and which had a sign at either end banning any vehicles down there during the day - I don't think anyone owned a car there anyway!
    My old mate Bernard Burke lived with his family on Spurgeon Street, and I used to spend my "spends" each w... more >>

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 20-Aug-2011
    John,
    As soon as I hear anymore I'll let you know then, I don't know how true this is, but I heard graves couldn't be built on untill 100 years had lapsed. There were some on the William St side of St Mark's church wasn't there? so I wonder if that area would be part of the paved area around the club?
    As for the old Labour Club, I can remember once being at a wedding reception there in the roo... more >>

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-Aug-2011
    For Paul,
    Spot on mate, that's the same Bernard Burke and his sisters, and Bernard was in my class at St Marks'between 1953 band 1959, I have a school class photo with us on, alongside another old friend Tony Latham, all really great guys, true West Gortonians like you and I, all born in that down-to-earth area.
    There were graves all round St Marks, William Street, Clowes Street and down the Rob... more >>

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-Aug-2011
    For Paul,
    My dad William Holmes met my mother Joan Cannar at that Labour Club in 1946, and that wedding you went to? - was it you who kept me awake at night with the music?
    Our bedroom was at the back of 126 Clowes Street, directly facing the windows of the upper floor of the Labour Club, it was always a noisy place, and the yard at the back of the club had garages where my dad kept a car years ... more >>

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by Patricia Crossley (Member 10252199) on 21-Aug-2011
    Hi Paul
    I lived on Blackwin St and went to All Saints school. We lived at number 89 our name is Garry

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by Patricia Crossley (Member 10252199) on 21-Aug-2011
    I searched "Blackwin St" and your question came up but I did'nt know how to find it, hence reply in this section.
    Regards

  • Re: NEW ... West Gorton plans. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 22-Aug-2011
    Hi Patricia,
    If you email me on paul.hartley55@btinternet.com I can send you a detailed map showing your old house and school etc.

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Is it all over ? by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 10-Aug-2011
Why has gorton gone so quiet ? is it all over ? did somebody remember to turn the light out ?.   
  • Re: Is it all over ? by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-Aug-2011
    Maybe they are all off...... "Looking For The Good Times" (Tommy Boyce/Bobby Hart) THE MONKEES,again,HAHA

    Sorry could not resist that one...promise I will stop.

  • Re: Is it all over ? by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 10-Aug-2011
    All I know is, I can't think of anything new that would be of interrest to anyone just yet. And my mam ... Mary Clarke (Hartley) has been off line for a few weeks with her PC dismantled while they are having their house modernised. It's on the Clowes St estate that went up in the early 70's, but the other half of the estate is due to come down later this year. Along with the ones built on the old ... more >>

  • Re: Is it all over ? by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 11-Aug-2011
    It will never be over for Gorton and West Gorton do you remember when almost every one whent away the first two weeks in August if you could afford it all the big factories closed down.My parents always made sure they saved for the mad get away even if it was in a caravan in Wales

  • Re: Is it all over ? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Aug-2011
    I think we need some decent topics to kick us off.
    Let's all get our thinking caps on and try to think of a subject that lots of us will know something about, sorry my mind is a complete blank right now - perhaps it's the summer recess.
    Will get back ASAP, good luck to all Gortonians and West Gortonians,
    John.

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skooooool dazzze by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Aug-2011
Just been talking to Peter H. Things are quiet on here. so here goes. Whilst at bishop Greer taylor st. We was playing footie against the teachers. I went in hard to the teacher Mr. Pickford and got the ball,( sat him on his arse as well ) He jumped up and sez RIGHT CARLTON YOUR BIG ENOUGH FOR IT , !!! A while latter same situation only this time I was on the receiving end.Woke up on the side line... more >>   
  • Re: skooooool dazzze by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 4-Aug-2011
    John, I'm sure I remember something about Mr Sutherland announcing in assembly one morning, that Mr Pickford was transferring to a school on the Isle of White. And while talking about Masons in one class some teacher, I think it was either Orantas or Moran. Told us you would never normaly know who is a Mason, and then went on to tell us but Mr Pickford is one. I've always wondered when B.G. first ... more >>

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IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Jul-2011
Try to enjoy school a bit more, make sure I made more friends and kept in touch with them, listened to my Dad a lot more, asked the Council to spend money on maintaining and preserving the houses in Gorton and West Gorton, kept beer at £1 a pint, to keep pubs in the community, married Marylyn Tomlinson, my first love at St Marks' School and hit back when teachers were particularly cruel to me and my friends.   
  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 24-Jul-2011
    John, keep beer at £1 a pint? I remember saying that when it gets to 50p a pint they can drink it themselves. But it wasn't exactly cheap then, sadly.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by julie (Member 10255407) on 24-Jul-2011
    John ... do we know what Marylyn Tomlinson is up to these days ?

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Jul-2011
    Peter, you're spot on, what a time that was eh?
    If only we were back there now, I'd probably have gone onto shorts!
    John.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-Jul-2011
    Julie,
    I have tried for years to trace my first love, I remember her as being very pretty with dark hair.
    I heard that she lived on Hyde Road and that her parents may have had a fruit shop, but I have never heard anything about her at all - my big regret in life.
    John.x.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by julie (Member 10255407) on 24-Jul-2011
    Well John you never know , someone will know what became of her

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 25-Jul-2011
    Dont give up looking, I met my first flame from school, only last year for the first time, Yes the electric was still there...But talking to her she lived just off clowes st, and lived above the bank, on greymare ln / ashton old road, got married moved away, divorced and is now living just off luisa st. openshaw...all within a 3 mile radious, so your lost love could still be in the area KEEP LOOK... more >>

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Jul-2011
    Thank you Julie and John, I will keep trying to find her.
    John, hope your missus doesn't read this, it will be rolling-pin job for you mate!
    Thanks to both for your kind words.
    John.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 26-Jul-2011
    wife is cool with it, well so the solicitor sez, hahaha. Joking apart we three had a great time, catching up, and are in weekly contact, making up for lost time.thanks any way for headsup....or would that be take cover.??????

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Jul-2011
    Nice one John, sounds as if you have it sussed,
    John.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Jul-2011
    Nice one John, sounds as if you have it sussed,
    John.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 26-Jul-2011
    yes I have ...I am a rose between two thorns.
    hahaha.

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 1-Aug-2011
    NOT GET RAN OVER BY A COACH AGAIN

  • Re: IF I COULD GO BACK TO MY YOUTH, I WOULD .... by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Aug-2011
    Not walk along the road next to Danny - hope you recovered ok buddy !!

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My first camping trip. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Jul-2011
One Easter, myself and two other school mates decided to go camping. 10bob ( 50p ) it cost...We went to Old Glossop in a BENTLEY, other lads dad's car.stayed a week in a field, beside a small stream, never washed, went to bed when were tired, got up when ever.lived on shop bought Goosgogg pies,mmmmmmm. not a sleeping bag between us, we all were frozen.my parents came to find us, but i wouldn't go ... more >>   
  • Re: My first camping trip. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 18-Jul-2011
    My first trip was in 1969 with All Saints Scouts as my brother was a leader. That was at Ashworth Valley. I used to love rough camping, but can't do that now because of arthritis. We do luxury camping with electric. Have a toaster, fan heater, 2 small fridges, electric inflater for air-beds, electric kettle, laptop for films and radio and a tent the size of a caravan. In mid season we can get a we... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Margaret Rochford (Member 10257531) on 19-Jul-2011
    My first camping trip was with St Mark's School in the fifties. We went to Strines Camp and had a ball. I remember we were all in the tent telling ghost stories and something moved outside and came towards the tent. We all screamed like banshees. It was a cow! Poor old thing must have got more of a fright than we did. Happy days.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 20-Jul-2011
    I REMEMBER GOING CAMPING WHEN I WAS ABOUT 16 TO EDALE , ON THE WAY HOME ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON MY BROTHER AND I DECIDED NOT TO GET THE TRAIN HOME BUT WALK OVER TO HAYFIELD AND GET THE BUS OR TO THUMB A LIFT, ANYWAY WE DID WALK AND WE GOT TO THE END OF THE HIKING TRAIL STUCK OUR THUMB OUT AFTER ONLY FIVE MINUTES THIS GUY STOPPED FOR US AND GAVE US A LIFT ALL THE WAY TO MOUNT RD, HOW LUCKY WAS THAT.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 20-Jul-2011
    Ahh, Edale, Mam tor,Blue John mines, bakewell, and all the others brill times....All done in school times ( Newsham Work ) I think Some guy called Newsham left money to Man City Council for under privlaged kids to get out of the city, Our headmaster took full advantage to get rid of us for a while, great times.Thank you mr. Sutherland, Bishop Greer.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 20-Jul-2011
    Error...Forgot kinder Scout, too.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 20-Jul-2011
    I remember walking from Edale, along the Pennine Way, to Crowden Rifle Range near to Woodhead.
    We camped in a field behind the Youth Hostel and it rained all day and all night - put me off for years.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 20-Jul-2011
    I remember walking from Edale, along the Pennine Way, to Crowden Rifle Range near to Woodhead.
    We camped in a field behind the Youth Hostel and it rained all day and all night - put me off for years.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 20-Jul-2011
    We did that from Edale Danny, and we had all our heavy Scouts camping gear which we'd carried over Jacob's Ladder from Edale. The sun was burning hot and we were obviously knackered. The conductor of the 358 bus at Hayfield just shook his head and said "You can't bring that on here!"

    Two young lads nearly burst into tears. Luckily, he wasn't serious.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 20-Jul-2011
    My first camping trip was with Sacred Heart scouts to somewhere near Windermere about 1959, whilst we we there a Adder snake was found and it was decided that it was to be killed and taken back to be stuffed and mounted in the scout hut back in Gorton. That barbaric lot put me off scouting for ever and camping for years although i did go on many good camping trips in later years.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 21-Jul-2011
    I recall camping at Edale at Easter 1978 which was in March. A very rough weekend. We took a large canvas Stormhaven tent from the Scout Hut. One carried the tent, another carried the poles and someone else carried the groundsheet, all from the train station. When the gales started we could watch all the family tents blowing down the field with the occupants chasing them while ours stood up to the... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 21-Jul-2011
    on theakstons old peculiar

  • Re: My first camping trip. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-Jul-2011
    In the early 60's, when it was "cool" to be a bit different, a mate of mine from Gorton called Ian SHUKER suggested we hitch-hike to Blackpool and sleep rough on the beach for a few days.
    We stood on Hyde Road thumbing a lift to get towards the City Centre, with rucksacks full of tins of baked beans and soup, our intention being to light a fire on the beach and cook our own meals.
    It went terrib... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by julie (Member 10255407) on 21-Jul-2011
    A good character building excercise John

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 5-Aug-2011
    Good memories, re camping. Loved to do this during school hols. We often went to Reddish Vale, till the day we set a grass bank on fire with our "campfire", (accidentally),we dar`nt go for a while after that.Our other favourite place was Roman Lakes Marple. On one occasion,there was a huge thunder storm, and it ended in disaster. we had to bundle our kit up and call it a day. Insult was added to i... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Aug-2011
    Anyone remember "The Dingle" at Reddish Vale. I know it was used as a permanent camp site for the 217th Scouts in the 1930's to the 1950's and they built a ramshackle hut there. Was situated on the Tame Valley near Reddish Vale, on the hillside below South Reddish cemetery.I have photos and minutes of meetings from the 1930's. They had great times there.I've been there on foot and it is just a thi... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 12-Aug-2011
    Hi Peter i remember the dingle well iI was in Havelock cubs Clowes street and we went there for a camp fire and Gin Gan Gooli-ing and the cup of cocoa.
    Can anybody remember when they did Ski Jumping on Reddish Vale. They shipped the snow from Scotland in Findus refriderator vans it was about 1958 i think.
    Dave

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Aug-2011
    Hi Dave, you might have known Bill Thorpe then? I went camping with my brother Paul, and Bill to Ashworth Valley in the late 60's. I was a then a traitor and joined the 217th at Far Lane, but it was nearer to Suttons Estate.

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 15-Aug-2011
    Hi Peter
    can not say I remember him, it would have been about 59/60 when i was there. Other trips that i remember were at Disley,Mellor and Charlsworth.
    What i can remember is getting out of the tent early in the morning and going to the wash place which comprised of a roof-less structure with separate boothes that had a bowl and cold water in a big jug for the morning ablutions. Freezing cold ... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 22-Aug-2011
    Hi Dave

    I'm camping now, and my memories of this morning are getting out of bed (a double-layered air bed), turning the fan heater on because it's nippy first thing, then making a coffee with an electric kettle. I'm now on the internet writing this and checking the news, emails, weather. The toast will be going into the toaster soon, but will be timed to pop up as the bacon, sausage and eggs hi... more >>

  • Re: My first camping trip. by Robert (Bob) Moore (Member 10099906) on 17-Dec-2011
    my first camping trip was with Gorton Mount School, and we went for a weekend to Marple, it was only 2 days, but when we got back to Belle Vue station, Mam, dad and my three sisters were waiting for me, would have thought I had been away for weeks lol, I have camped at the Dingle (Dingle dell we used to call it) when I was in St. Phillips 403 scout troop. I also used to hike from Hayfield to Gloss... more >>

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GORTON FAIRS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 6-Jul-2011
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE FAIRS THEY USED TO HAVE ON THE RED REC FACING CASSON ST   
  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Jul-2011
    Not really, but i do remember the little scrap yard there, as a school mate lived opposit he was called Ronnie Chesworth, my best buddy for a while as his mum worked at mc.vities,mmmmmmmm all those jaffa cakes,mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-Jul-2011
    I remember Danny, and those they had on the croft by the monkey bridge at Knutsford Road. Sadly, it was rumoured at one time that Pauline Reade had run off with someone from the fair at the Red Rec. She just wasn't that kind of girl.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by george gee (Member 10245909) on 6-Jul-2011
    i am an old gortonian and i thinkyou are mistaken about the gorton fair being on the red wreck on casson street as far as my memory goes back the gorton fair was always on the large piece of soil covered ground between TAYLOR STREET AND THE RAILWAY LINES when the fair was on on GORTON WAKES MY DAD used to go on the fairground after working his shift at BEYER PEACOCKS WIN SOME COCONUTS AND BRING T... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Jul-2011
    George, Did you ever live on Kirkham or seddon ave? the name rings a bell.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 6-Jul-2011
    THE SCRAP YARD WAS NORMAN HUMPHRIES ,IT WAS ALSO A COAL YARD , THE FAIR MUST HAVE GONE TO CASSON ST WHEN BISHOP GREER WAS BUILT , I LIVED AT 47 BEFORE WE MOVED TO SUTTON ESTATE. SADLY THAT HOUSE BURNED DOWN AND KILLED SOME CHILDREN

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Jul-2011
    ta for that , I could not get LOMAX's out of my head, yes I know that they were behind the Steelworks pub.Lad in our class lived next to it his name was Derek Beamish.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Jul-2011
    Danny, what end was that at, Cambert lane, or Gorton Lane.?

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 6-Jul-2011
    Re Gorton Fair it was always on the red rec. I lived in Hampden Gr from 1941 to 1967 I think it was on the rec untill about 1960. My brother back door back on to the rec he lived at no 17 Hampden Grove and the caravans that edge the rec used to ask if they could plug in to the electric for a small fee. The scrap yard you are taling about was a wood yard before Norman took it over it belong to Squi... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 7-Jul-2011
    it was nearer cambert lane end than gorton lane. if you remember the playground . it was right facing .slightly up from pine st

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    I lived at 65 Cambert Lane, between Taylor Street and Casson Street from 1960 to 1970.
    The fair was always held on the red rec on Casson Street during my years there.
    I never saw the fair held in Taylor Street at all, it was always Casson Street as I recall.
    Like all of us, I remember the noise (mostly the loud music) and the smell of those throbbing Foden diesel generators.
    I also remember Hu... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    I lived at 65 Cambert Lane, between Taylor Street and Casson Street from 1960 to 1970.
    The fair was always held on the red rec on Casson Street during my years there.
    I never saw the fair held in Taylor Street at all, it was always Casson Street as I recall.
    Like all of us, I remember the noise (mostly the loud music) and the smell of those throbbing Foden diesel generators.
    I also remember Hu... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    OOOOOOOOOps, sorry folks.
    Just a bit more information - I recall that the fair on Casson Street's red rec was closer to Cambert lane than it was to Gorton lane.
    I was told that for some reason the Manchester Education Committee always objected to the fair being located anywhere near Peacock Street School, hence the reason it started right behind Humphrey's Yard.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-Jul-2011
    John, I've seen a photo of the red rec from about 1900, with Casson St in the background. I think it's on the Manchester City Council Libraries website. It was certainly an open space then. I too wonder if houses used to be there. Wasn't the ground a reddish colour? That could have been due to old brick debris post-demolition. Just a guess. I know "rec" is short for recreation ground.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-Jul-2011
    In fact, go on there and search for Casson street, and you will see it was in 1914

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 7-Jul-2011
    YOUR SLIPPING PETE , IT WAS A REDDISH COLOUR THAT IS WHY IT WAS CALLED THE RED REC

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 7-Jul-2011
    Well John, I have vague memories of the shops on Cambert Lane, I was brought up in Casson Street, living there between 1960 and 1968 (3 years old to 11 years old). after that we moved to Kirkham Avenue and to the luxury of an indoor toilet and a proper plumbed in bath !! I can remember the excitement every August ? when the fair lorries arrived... heading up Casson Street to set up at the top end ... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-Jul-2011
    I don't get you there Danny. I do remember it was a reddish brown. It was a 'rhetorical' question. (I wonder what it means ;-) )

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    Hi Colin,
    Yes I played on the Red Rec all the time - too idle to walk to Sunnybrow or Gorton Parks!
    I remember that it was always a sort of red shale (culd well have been brick debris though)but it hurt when you fell on it!
    When there was a craze to build your own track bike (including cow-horn handle-bars)we used to lay out a track using old bricks, and some of those Gorton lads were really go... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by george gee (Member 10245909) on 7-Jul-2011
    I am wondering if we are talking about the same red wreckthe one i rememberwas the red wreck situated between PEACOCK STREET and CASSON STREETat one end was beyer peacocks on gorton lane on the corner of casson street facing the main entrance to peacocks was a puband on the other side of red wreck along gorton lane was peacock street school and by the way it was called the red wreck because it was... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by george gee (Member 10245909) on 7-Jul-2011
    by the way JOHN I was BORN AND LIVED in ELLESMERE STREET GEORGEGEE

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    Hi George,
    Yes I think it was all the same Red Rec.
    It didn't cross Casson Street to Taylor Street because of the two rows of terraced houses that were back-to-back, one lot running along the west side of Casson Street and the other running along the east side of Taylor Street, facing what was to become Bishop Greer School (built 1966-1967).
    The Red Rec ran from the east of Casson Street (from ... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 9-Jul-2011
    Was it just me, or did I always suspect that it was impossible to knock off a coconut with those wooden balls because the coconuts were nailed on?

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 13-Jul-2011
    Am off for my monthly nostalgia trip to Manchester tomorrow morning (Thursday)and will drive though West Gorton and Gorton, as well as Ardwick, Longsight and Levenshulme.
    I want to trace the old recreation ground on Bennett Street, Ardwick where St Marks' used to play our football in the 1950's, and look to see if there is any trace of Matthews Street off Bennett Street, where my late father live... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 13-Jul-2011
    John, I've got a free day tomorrow so if you want to meet up and track down some of the old places, give me an idea when you will be over here.
    Yes Matthew St is still there! having stayed close to the area and seen it change from the 60's, I can still trace alot of the old points that mark out the long gone spots.
    So if I can be of any help, you can contact me on ...
    07962 588 813.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 20-Jul-2011
    Paul,
    Sorry mate but I had left for Manchester before I read your mail, and so I did not get the message until today (Wednesday).
    It was good of you to offer to meet and I have kept your phone number for next time.
    Thanks again mate,
    John.

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 21-Jul-2011
    No problem John it was almost midnight when I left the message, so I wasn't holding up much hope of you seeing it in time.
    Anyway how did it go ? when the houses on Clowes St, Wenlock Way/Thomas St, together with ICL & Holden and Brookes works. All go in the next few months, it's going to get even harder to trace the place from the 60's isn't it.
    By next summer it should be totaly different, m... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 21-Jul-2011
    Hi Paul,
    It went OK thanks, I concentrated on the Hyde Road end of Clowes Street, where there are stretches of the original pavement and roadway,(near the former Conway cinema),and it seems really narrow now.
    Eventually, like you say, it will all go, and there will be hardly any points of reference left.
    I am planning to take one lot of final photographs of what's left of the original Clowes St... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 26-Aug-2011
    Hi John & Paul
    A friend of mine works!! (If that is the right word for it) for Manchester City Council and they have moved into the multi story block that was ICL on Wenlock Way, most of the services will be based there.
    Dave

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by dave hodkinson (Member 10266434) on 28-Oct-2011
    I remember the fairs very well and I would agree with John Holmes remesnisings (hope I've spelt that correctly, Peacock st education )I remember the large vehicles that powered the fairs and many a night on the dodgems etc. One song I remember vividly is "Last train to Sanderdnavo and if you miss this one you'll never get another one "(spelt wrong )sung by Lonnie Donegan, and yes this was the r... more >>

  • Re: GORTON FAIRS by eric lees (Member 10278513) on 25-Sep-2012
    mmmm the fair in taylor street i remeber going on the waltzer in taylor street at the end of furnival road were the mission was it must have been 1955 because they were playing the record on the waltzer pickin a chickin by eve boswell yer eric lees

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Peacock Street School 1960's by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 1-Jul-2011
Anyone out there who went to Peacock Street School between 1962 and 1968 ? I'd love to share some memories... remember the teachers names? Mr Bird was headmaster... Mrs Rofe was my last teacher there before I moved "up" to Wright Robinson... I remember the school dinners arriving by truck in the morning and I can also remember running down to the fence to watch the shiny new steam engines leaving... more >>   
  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 1-Jul-2011
    i wasnt there long but i seem to remember a dinner lady called mrs denham and was there a teacher with a big mole on her chin or am i just imagining this

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 1-Jul-2011
    Colin, did you go to Victoria Park after Peacock St, only I remember someone called Barber there.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 1-Jul-2011
    Sorry, just noticed you said Wright Roby.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Jul-2011
    Just back from a nostalgic three days in Manchester and trips down Gorton Lane and Clowes Street.
    Sad to say the area gets no better, but there is a third generation of houses (or flats) being built at the Gorton Lane end of Clowes Street (where the old and then the new Wellington Inn and the old Gorton Brook Hotel used to stand.
    In the middle are still the disgraceful second generation pits tha... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Jul-2011
    Does anyone remember a lad called Neil FEATHERSTONE, born 1947 or 1948, who lived in those terraced houses facing Sunny Brow Park, the row that backed onto, and were parallel to, Hyde Road?
    Neil went to Manchester Central Grammar School between 1959 and 1964, but I lost track of him.
    John.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 4-Jul-2011
    Hi John did you live in Gorton I was born in Gorton in 1940 and still have very fond memories i left to live in London in 1965. My father was born in Thomas Street in 1989 my mother also born in Hampden Grove and lived in the same street untill she had to move in 1970 to move to Sale her life was never the same again. My dad used to tell us many tales about his life in West Gorton he was never out... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 4-Jul-2011
    Hi Joyce,
    Yes, I am a West Gorton lad, born in 1947 at 124 Clowes Street, between Elizabeth Street and William Street, where I stayed until 1960, when we moved to Cambert Lane, Gorton.
    Dad was a boilermaker at Beyer Peacocks on Gorton Lane most of my childhood.
    I went to St Marks' CofE school on Clowes Street between 1952 and 1959 and then Manchester Central Grammar School between 1959 and 1964... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 4-Jul-2011
    John, just reading your reply, this is scary stuff....it's a wonder we dont know each other. as mentioned before in one of our flits we ended up in of all places.....Meadows rd. Sale. just off Dane rd...... and there's more.I used to go out with a lass called Maggie Morgan,she had a brother dave ( ? )they lived right next door to DLT, when he lived just off clowes st, opposit a pub, Locamotive??? ... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 5-Jul-2011
    John, DLT came to our parents evening in 1971 with his Swedish wife to present prizes. Mr de la Perelle was pleased to see him, but there was a rumour then that he was expelled from Central for graffiti. Is that true, do you know?

    I believe that while Mr Perelle was a very nice chap, he was very handy with a cane, and your backside would hurt for a long time.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Jul-2011
    To John Carlton:
    I have an idea that DLT's mum used to live in one of the "new" maisonettes built close to the Gorton Lane end, and opposite the "new" Wellington Inn.
    The 109 bus (Manchester - Bull's Head, Reddish), used to stop right outside the "old" Wellington Inn on the "old" Clowes Street, and I remember as a child riding on the top deck being able to see into the pub, and watch all the dri... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Jul-2011
    To Pete Woodier:
    I can't really remember much about DLT at school, he was a few years older than me, but was always rather flamboyant, and didn't dress like the rest of us.
    I have no idea if he was expelled, it would not surprise me though.
    A quick mention of Louise Phillipe de la Perelle:
    You are right, he was a quietly-spoken Channel Islander, but wielded a mean cane.
    I was caught one day c... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 5-Jul-2011
    John H. Thanks I knew I could count on you to clear up my fuzzy head. Yes it was his parents that lived, as you stated in them new houses.ta again......he was still odd. lol.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    John C - he was odd mate, everyone who knew him was amazed he got where he did.
    Wish we could meet at some reunion John, we probably know lots of people we have met over the years.
    I hope one day that there is a St Marks' or a Central Grammar School reunion.
    Cheers mate,
    John.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Jul-2011
    Will do, as you know im stuck out here in the boonies of County Mayo, for my sins ( I must have been BAD. )But i'm up for sale ( any takers )so you never know.Still have a place in Morecambe so it would be an easy drive back to Gorton. looking forward to it already. lol.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Jul-2011
    Yes I met a few of your ex collegues over the years in Manchester.PMSL but thats another storie or two. haha.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-Jul-2011
    Nice one mate.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Jul-2011
    Regarding teachers etc, I seem to remember a Miss Cornthwaite who was a very nice lady. The kids called her by the name of a breakfast cereal though.
    Anyone recall the Queen being driven past the school on Gorton Lane about 1965? It was a big day, but was all over in one minute. Poor kids like me couldn't afford to buy a flag as I remember.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by vic godden (Member 10264876) on 1-Sep-2011
    Memory may be playing tricks, but I seem to recall an eclipse of the sun whilst at school in the 60s.

    Worst memory is having to eat prunes for dessert on a regular basis at lunchtime

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 3-Sep-2011
    Anybody out there who went to Peacock St in 1948-1950,Mr Hoyle was the Head with Mr Wiggins Music Teacher,Mrs Critchley,Mr Luford, Mr Tonks.

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 4-Sep-2011
    I didn't go to Peacock Street School I left St Francis in 1948 But I went to the evening play centre at Peacock Street often as a child and enjoyed every ninute of it,

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 6-Sep-2011
    Hi Harold Yes i went to peacock Street school from 1944 to 1951 I think it wa Mr Bird who was head master after Mr Hoyle my last teacher was Mr Wiggins do you remember a teacher called Mr Smith i think he hung himself one week end . Are you any relation to the Woods family who had the green grocers on Church Lane Joyce Carson

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by jim whittaker (Member 10267375) on 16-Nov-2011
    Hi Joyce and Harold. I used to live in Parker Street and went to Peacock Street but a bit earler than you I think. Remember 'Oily' Hoyle very well and Mr Wiggins, my hands still tingle at the thoughtof his lessons! Mr Tonks was my last teacher before I moved to Varna Street. Anybody know Roy Hobson or Keith Mather? Didn't Mrs Woods live in Parker Street? Re: Mr Smith, he had been a prisoner of the... more >>

  • Re: Peacock Street School 1960's by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 19-Apr-2012
    Hi Jim i remember both Roy and Keith sadly Keith died a few years ago

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