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Dr Garretts by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-May-2011
Dr Garretts Conway North Wales, you either loved it or hated it, I loved it there but perhaps because i was one of the oldest there at the ripe old age of 14 years, some of the young ones were bullied or too home sick to enjoy it. I would love to hear from anyone that was there in 1947   
  • Re: Dr Garretts by John Brian Hughes (Member 10271461) on 27-May-2014
    My Dad worked at Dr Garretts in the 50's.

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Butlins by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-May-2011
Has anyone been to Port Madoc lately? I have heard they are spending a lot of money doing the old Butlins site up, I wonderd what it was like now, there was need for improvement after the Butlins camp closed down it wasn't the same.   
  • Re: Butlins by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-May-2011
    Mary,
    Have not been there for three years, but I have a brother living in Prestatyn, near Rhyl.
    The Butlin's Camp has been owned by Haven Holidays since 1999, but have not heard of them making any alterations, so will try and get our kid to take a look when he next goes through Caernarfon.
    John.

  • Re: Butlins by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-May-2011
    Oh thanks for that John. I would love to hear more about the place. Paul Hartley (my son) was the one that told me he had heard they were making a big improvement on the place. He is as keen to know about this as I am, we went there so often when he was younger.

  • Re: Butlins by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 24-May-2011
    Mary,
    Just back from North Wales, and here's my report:
    Porthmadog (or pot-my-dog as my grandchildren call it), was very wet and looked quite sad, and as it was chucking it down I didn't get out of the car, but I saw some hoardings on the road between there and Pwlhelli, and so they must be making some changes to the old Butlins site, but it's clearly not finished yet.
    Pwlhelli also was very we... more >>

  • Re: Butlins by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-May-2011
    Thanks for your write up John on North Wales. a mixture of clean or shabby, I always thought Rhyl was a let down,and Towyn. see they have not changed, anyway bet you enjoyed the journey, I believe there is an easy route from Gorton than there used to be. Must try it sometime, anyway I read your account of it all to my husband and he remarked how interesting you made it all sound. THANKS

  • Re: Butlins by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-May-2011
    Mary,
    It was a pleasure and thanks for your reply.
    We always went to Towyn and then Penmaenmawr from 1952 to 1960, when we started going to Sennen Cove at Land's End, Cornwall.
    I used to love Towyn, as a child it was very exciting, but now as I am older it's a bit too much.
    Penmaenmawr was always more genteel and we used to stay at a caravan at Pendyffryn Hall and walk to Conway at night for ... more >>

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Wealth by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
The root of all evil, what a true saying Money is certainly the root of all evil, it is funny how money has a different meaning to all people, but can anyone uderstand my meaning, when i say i wouldn't like to never have to save for what i want, if everything was there at hand i would never have the satifaction of any achievement, it must be awful dull to never have to aim for what we want, and ha... more >>   
  • Re: Wealth by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
    By the way does anyone remember the farthing still being spent, I remember a fruit shop on Hyde ROAD West Gorton, (when they were just coming to an end of circulation,) exchanging them two for a half penny, the shop was called Shores next to Hornby's chippy,

  • Re: Wealth by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-May-2011
    My father taught me the value of money and of saving:
    When we used to go on holiday to North Wales in the 1950's, my Dad was a blacksmith at Beyer Peacocks, and was earning about £2:50 a week.
    He used to save for our holiday and allowed £1:00 per day for all travel, meals, entertainment and treats like ice-cream for a family of four.
    He never used a bank, never had a cheque book or a credit c... more >>

  • Re: Wealth by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 1-May-2011
    Nice story John We went to Butlins North Wales every year Save and keep free from debt is my motto I could never understand anyone enjoying a holiday if they borrowed for it and payed after

  • Re: Wealth by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    You're right. Debt payments eat at the money you could be spending on yourself and your family, or what you could be saving up. I have had to use debt in the past, but never borrowed what I couldn't afford. I was a debt adviser for 9 years, and I saw some horror stories. One chap had £140,000 in credit cards. I went to some houses where walls and doors had holes kicked in, because the client had ... more >>

  • Re: Wealth by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-May-2011
    Wise words Peter.
    It's clear that some people really can't help getting into serious debt, and like the offers made to students when at University, our banks appear to keep the pressure on them by offering more and more cash that in their hearts they MUST know they cannot afford to repay.
    It's one thing being desperate and another being reckless - and sometimes the two get blurred, and you must ... more >>

  • Re: Wealth by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 3-May-2011
    THE ACTUAL SAYING IS THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL

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Evacuation by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
how many people out there can talk about their evacuation days, I was sent with the whole school to Poynton, and thought I was miles away, age six years of age it was all just another adventure with my twin, we thought Germany was well out of reach of us, ad I known how near it was i wouldn't have slept at night, I heard this dig for victory saying, and when i saw some workmen digging in the road ... more >>   
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Corona by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
Who remembers the Corona cinema then? us kids sitting in the sixpenny seats at the front, turning round in the interval when the lights went up, to see who had been posh enough to pay one shilling and sixpence to sit at the back   
  • Re: Corona by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 30-Apr-2011
    I lived a stone's throw from the Corona. What I remember most is the Saturday afternoon matinees when a frequent occurrence was for the projector to break down and the kids would start booing and shouting. Together with a friend, one of us would pay and the other would crouch down and sneak into the toilets and come out two or three minutes later as if she had already paid. Who remembers waiting o... more >>

  • Re: Corona by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
    Yes Kate we have all done that toilet thing to get in free, did you go to the Savoy too? they would put the serial on after the Corona let out on a saturday afternoon, so the kids would go in there straight from the Corona to follow the serial I remember it being "The Jungle Queen" about a little lost girl growing up with the animals, innoent days right enough can you imagine kids asking strangers... more >>

  • Re: Corona by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Apr-2011
    I went to the Corona in the 1950's with my very first ever girlfriend.
    Her name was Lilian Garland and we were at St.Marks Primary on Clowes Street together.
    We would both have been 8 or 9 years old.
    I remember that I dared hold her hand throughout two films, the most daring thing I had done at that time - how innocent, but I still remember her well.

  • Re: Corona by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 2-May-2011
    I remember one of our mates would pay to go into the Essoldo (actually the Rivoli at the time)on Mount Road and then go behind the curtain across the emergency exit and open the fire door and let us in, then pop his head round the curtain to make sure the usherette was walking towards the top end and we would all then come from behind the curtain and be sat down before she came back down again. N... more >>

  • Re: Corona by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 2-May-2011
    Sorry about that last reply, I forgot you were on about the Corona. I did go to the Corona a few times but not often. Mind you as a cinema goer, as most of us were, what a wide choice we had around the Gorton and Levenshulme areas. I certainly can't remember one cinema that I didn't got to. Wasn't it great when you could open the evening paper and scan the multitude of cinemas around and pick one ... more >>

  • Re: Corona by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 2-May-2011
    The Essoldo was more popular with me than the Corona, I have some happy memories of that place, but the trouble was the distance from West gorton, when it rained coming out, and the bus fare had been spent on more expensive seats,happy times though, it was really stressful when you was in a big queue, and they came to tell you the big film had started, remember when you went in the first house and... more >>

  • Re: Corona by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 2-May-2011
    Kate did you live off Birch Street? did you know The Walkers in Sutton Street, and the Kennedy's in New Street?

  • Re: Corona by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 2-May-2011
    Hi Mary,
    Yes I did live off Birch St in Sutton St and I knew the Walkers very well. Mr and Mrs Walker had two or three children (I think). Ivy, Richard and Kathleen. I was friends with Kathleen who went to All Saints school and I would love to know how she is. Mr Walker was a parkie in Gorton Park for a while. Mrs Walker was a lovely lady who was continually knocking on our door asking could she ... more >>

  • Re: Corona by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 7-May-2011
    Sorry Kate I have only just spotted your question...no I didn't know the Walkers very well, I didn't know Richard had any sisters, I only knew him because he had a schoolboy crush on my twin and vise versa, I remember his mum, first seeing her as a smart lady in a nayy pinstriped suit, in my mates house (Rose Kennedy in the next street to them) and then seeing his mum years after looking awful as ... more >>

  • Re: Corona by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 7-May-2011
    I don't know your age Kate, but you mentioned you went to All Saints school, did you know Gladys Leatherbarrow and Winnie Gee ? I went to St Francis. But Gladys is my husands cousin and Winnie was her mate.

  • Re: Corona by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 8-May-2011
    Hi Mary,
    I actually went to Thomas St school and left in 1953. I don't know any of the names you mentioned or Rose Kennedy. My memory of Mrs Walker is of a painfully thin lady who later on in life started to go blind. I left West Gorton in 1965 and she was still alive then.
    What you told me about Richard is very amusing,I only remember him as a grown man. I think he was some kind of sales rep wh... more >>

  • Re: Corona by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 2-Sep-2011
    Hi Kate

    I remember Sutton St my Grandfather used to have the off license on the corner of Birch St and suttonSt

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Ellis's Pies - by James Fenton (Member 10260807) on 28-Apr-2011
Apparently I had an aunt who worked there - probably in the 1950's and 1960's - does anyone remember her or her family - she was called Doris Fenton and she and her family lived in Stanley Street off Queens Road - I have no information on the family and would be grateful if anyone had any information on them - it would be much appreciated.   
  • Re: Ellis's Pies - by mavis fluerty (Member 10062155) on 7-May-2011
    Hi, I went to All Saints and was in a class with a girl called Shirley fenton lived off Queens Road, I am 70 living in New Zealand, I think there was a sister older called maureen fenton

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Where did they go. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 28-Apr-2011
Have I got it right? that in the big demolition of Gorton, West Gorton and Openshaw of the late 60's.

Large percentages of neighbours from the old communities seemed to keep together to make up the newly built Corporation estates.
Were the people from the Thomas St West Gorton area, the first to move out at the time moving to Hattersley, Wythenshawe and Partington.

The Gorton Cross St and... more >>
  
  • Re: Where did they go. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Apr-2011
    Hi Paul

    I moved to Haughton Green in the late 80's, and I took my older brother into a local pub. He was amazed at how many people he knew in there from the old Gorton. So we have many Gorton immmigrants here, including me.

    I recall the houses they threw up around the old Cambert Lane area in 1976 (one day they weren't there, and the next they were). They were filled immediately with mostly ... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 28-Apr-2011
    I think the prison ground neighbours moved to Railway Street Paul, near Cahpman Street

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 28-Apr-2011
    Sorry that should read near Chapman Street Gorton

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 28-Apr-2011
    Yes as Peter put it, Gorton was truely butchered, along with Belle Vue, and for a bit of nostalgia hear I put it into rhyme, to bring back memories,,BELLE VUE IN MIND.. Walking through the gates of Belle Vue we could feel all the fun in the air, As Gorton once more became alive with Speedway, Dance Hall and fun fair,The animals were there for the viewing, children's faces lit up in delight,When ci... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Apr-2011
    Mary, that does sum up Belle Vue, which was magic to me as a kid. We would sneak in through a hole in the fence, and run out of the bushes across the miniature railway and then blended in with the crowds. We had no money but could spend hours walking around watching everything.

    Denton also had its heart ripped out when they gouged out that motorway. Crown Point is now dead as a shopping area, a... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 28-Apr-2011
    Had to laugh at your reply Peter, for i see you were one of the offenders like me, my other poem sums it up with the last two lines reading... And for millions who passed through those turnstiles or sneaked in without paying their due, the memories are great, and make no mistake. we.ll always remember Belle vue, ( and that my little bit of nostalgia for to day )

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 28-Apr-2011
    You started a good topic of conversation there Paul, where did they all go? hope it brings some lost friends together with plenty of replies

  • Re: Where did they go. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 28-Apr-2011
    My parents moved from a rented house on Clowes Street, West Gorton to a rented house on Cambert Lane in 1961.
    When the houses on Cambert Lane were due for demolition, they took a brand new council house on the Colshaw Farm Estate between Handforth and Wilmslow in Cheshire.
    There were a few Gorton people there, but not that many and they were never really happy there at all.
    A few years later, i... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Apr-2011
    Connell and Finnegan have a lot to answer to.I think my parents were the last, if not the last few to leave Peacock st. for Beswick (yuchkk). Now thats another story... In fact next door to Frank foo foo Lamars sister. on Havana close.

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 28-Apr-2011
    Well I have been in Gorton all my life, seen a lot of changes here, in West Gorton, but it,s still home, I went to live in Wythenshawe for about 7 months, but Belle Vue was really alive at that time. and I missed it's music in the air, and the roar of those Speedway bikes as I always lived within earshot of it all, I probably don't see the change as much as people who have moved away, Gorton will ... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 28-Apr-2011
    There is nothing truer than what you have said, Mary, for I'm sure had I not moved away from Gorton when I did around the 60's, I would have grown up with it and probably not seen it in the same light that I saw it when I went back after 30 years.

    I have to be honest and say I was absolutely shocked at the difference I saw, streets that were once considered places where the more affluent peopl... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 29-Apr-2011
    Same on Suttons Estate Jack. They would regularly go round making sure gardens were kept tidy. If not, you would get a letter giving you say 2 weeks to bring it up to scratch. That was in the days when things were done for the benefit of the majority.

    My dog wouldn't normally dream of using any garden as a toilet because we trained her well. But one day we went through this awful estate where r... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Apr-2011
    In defence of some West Gortonians of today:
    I have been able to plot the exact spot where I was born, at 124, Clowes Street, and it is occupied now by a small, somewhat run-down cafe run by some West Gorton ladies.
    A few months ago, my brother Christopher and I went back there on a nostalgic trip down memory lane.
    We parked at the side of what used to be the Union Chapel on Clowes Street and w... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 29-Apr-2011
    You're right John. There are still salt of the earth people in Gorton, and I'm sure they make the majority. They are just a smaller majority these days.

    There is a new African population in Gorton and Openshaw, and they appear to be a working law-abiding community. I have seen many of them catching the bus in the mornings to go to their work, and their kiddies are all nicely-turned out. My onl... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Apr-2011
    Peter,
    I could not agree with you more.
    It's a great pity that the area will never be the same, I often wish I could go back to those days, but they are gone forever.
    I was disgusted at some of the houses on Clowes Street, because although my generation were really poor, the houses in general were spotlessly clean.
    You are right about the gardens too, what a shame that some always let these ar... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by george gee (Member 10245909) on 29-Apr-2011
    yes i was born in ellesmere street in gorton in 1926 moved to droylsden having married adroylsden girl in 1951I was disgusted when they ripped gorton and neighboing districts down and i have been trying to get in touch with old childhood friends who went to SAINT JAMES and lived in the same or neighboring streets but up to now i have not had any luck oh well we might meet in a better place one nev... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
    True what you say Jack, I think I see Gorton through rose coloured glasses. when you've been away from the place it must look awful when you come back and see the difference, but there are still some of us old Gortonians that will never change thank goodness

  • Re: Where did they go. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 30-Apr-2011
    I think it's because we stayed in the area and slowly saw the change, that we noticed what new road covered the old.
    When we went away for the day in the 60's I remember the way every where looked dismal as we got closer to the old terraced streets even then.
    Like someone mentioned though it would have been nice if the planners had left the old street layouts as they were, and just widened the ... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 30-Apr-2011
    Yes the close I live in, is nowhere near it's old street same name, this was pointed out to me by someone who used to live in the street that had the same name in West Gorton,

  • Re: Where did they go. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 30-Apr-2011
    One surprise I had when I went back to Gorton after 30 years or so was walking down the street where I lived and played as a boy? I remember playing football in Hexham Road, seven or eight a side, using the grids for goalposts and taking corners and throw ins. Now, as I entered my old street to walk down it, I couldn't believe how narrow it now looked, not much wider than a back entry it seemed. I... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 30-Apr-2011
    Jack,
    It's really strange that you mention the width of old roads, because a few years ago I made the first of dozens of re-visits to Clowes Street in West Gorton and at both ends (Hyde Road and Gorton Lane)there are very short sections of the original road and pavements still in place.
    My brother and I were both amazed how narrow it was, mainly because we remembered the 109 buses running past o... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 5-May-2011
    Hello Jack. just read your post about the street where you lived, and you are so right. I was born and lived for my first 13 years in Second Ave off Barnard Rd, so I certainly know Hexham Rd. I had a look around there about 4 years ago, and got exactly the same impression,- how small it all appeared. Second Ave then seemed so large, now it has appeared to have shrunk. I also noticed the difference... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 5-May-2011
    you're so right about those shops on Mount Road Roy. I have actually written about them all in my book and the names of the people who had them in the fifties. Now, like you say, they all have grating up at the windows. I can remember the times in Hexham Road when the residents used to race each other to shovel up horse manure left in the street by the rag and bone man's horse, so they could put i... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-May-2011
    My next door neighbour always scooped up the manure to put on his rhubarb.
    We preferred custard on ours (what an old joke).

  • Re: Where did they go. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-May-2011
    old tramp picks up a chunck of horse manure, goes to a house door and knocks on it, woman answers YES. misses I am so hungery I could eat this... Well you are just in time.... The horse stable wants cleaning out around the back.!!!

  • Re: Where did they go. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-May-2011
    The one I heard John was where the lady says "Ugh throw it away and get a warm piece from round the back"

  • Re: Where did they go. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-May-2011
    thanks, couldn't just remember the punch line. But it just proves that despite all our hardships from the past, we all can still have a bloody good laugh at ourselves and everything around us...

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 7-May-2011
    Hello again Jack. I`ll be seeing Phil this weekend, so I will pass on your message.I have known Phil for many years, in fact I worked with him at the Shovels for over 4 years,he`s a great guy (he once lived in Gorton as well)If I see you in there, I`ll buy you a pint.

  • Re: Where did they go. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 9-May-2011
    Hello Roy, been in Manchester for the past four days. No, not Gorton. Thanks for passing my message on to Phil. He will also have been hoping that Chelsea beat United so I'm glad his weekend was shattered; let's hope for a double whammy next Saturday. Ha, ha. No, I don't mean it really, it would be nice to have the double in Manchester - United as champions and City as cup winners? I don't drink n... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 10-May-2011
    Hello again Jack. Just had a week in Manchester myself. I have a friend who lives in Burnage, and one in Didsbury. also I have an Aunt in Openshaw. Phil went to Varna St school before he moved from Gorton. I guess it would be good to keep the silverware in Manchester,- we shall see. Keep in touch,cheers!.

  • Re: Where did they go. by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 14-May-2011
    Hello Roy, I have a cousin who lives in Openshaw. He used to live in Wright Robinson Close but has now bought one of the new flats on the front of the Old Road near Rylance Street, which, incidentally, is where I was born.

    Well they both did it, City and United. Perhaps Blackpool, after that epic match and win today, will now face an inferior United side next week and perhaps get a win that cou... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 29-May-2011
    Hello Jack. Re your book on the Mount Rd shops. Correct me if I am wrong, but as I recall, there was the doctors surgery (Levy and Smith),Post Office (can`t remember who had it), Hulse`s hardware (my Grandparents name)He used to take his `accumulater` to be charged up there for the wireless. Next was Blackwoods the bakers, the chippy?, then Greens the grocers. on the next corner was Dixons newsage... more >>

  • Re: Where did they go. by Pat (Member 10267639) on 19-Nov-2011
    My grandparents and my parents ran Boden's newsagents on Mount Road near the Sutton Estate in the 1950s and possibly earlier. Does anyone remember them or the shop please.

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MAY DAY by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 27-Apr-2011
Does anyone remember the May Queens we had and Molly Dancers? It was a big occassion getting all the kids dressed up to sing at the doors, around the merry Maypole and through the live long day, for gentle .........is crowned the Queen of May" have I got the words right ? Bet some of you oldies can tell a few stories, we had no little queen one year and dressed my little brother up as our Queen, h... more >>   
  • Re: MAY DAY by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 18-May-2011
    And the May Queen always wore a veil (otherwise known as Mum's old lace curtains)and a crown! You are right with the song and the rest went "Shake the money box, shake the money box please put a penny in the old man's hat. If you haven't got a penny, a ha'penny will do, if you haven't got a ha'penny God bless you. God bless you, God bless you, if you haven't got a ha'penny God bless you". When I ... more >>

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Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
Do you remember when it was usual to hear a crowd coming out of the pub singing as they walked home at night? and us kids knew they had had a good night, not like these days when a good night out is when they have had a good scrap, was there something in the drink or what? being a tee totaler myself, I can't understand the change of it all, have people gone more unfriendly?   
  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    Hi Mary. They're not man enough to let people see they might be happy, so they hide behind booze to indulge in violent behaviour, which they think makes them look bigger than they actually are. In the sober light of day, many wouldn't say boo to a goose, especially if they're on their own. They're actually pathetic in real life.

    Like all the rudeness now, especially in pubs. It saves them havi... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 2-May-2011
    You're right Mary, it used to be wonderful to hear the people coming out of the pubs in the fifties, singing and enjoying themselves on the way home. Now, they're not happy unless they are putting a bottle over someone's head. I remember when I used to stay the weekend with my cousin on Ashton Old Road, We used to love it when the pubs let out, and boy were there a lot of pubs along that road then... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 2-May-2011
    They used to have a good old sing song in the pubs in our days, perhaps that's what put people in the right frame of mind after closing time

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 4-May-2011
    WE HAVE A GOOD OLD SING SONG IN THE VALE COTTAGE EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT ,ALL THE OLD SONGS COME OUT

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 4-May-2011
    Not been in there since about 1970. Glad to hear it is still hiding behind the Nelson. yes I had a few good times in it to.

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-May-2011
    It's a cracking pub John. Respectable, nicely decorated and friendly.

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-May-2011
    I used to have a few sneaky pints in there, before I was 18. Had my first LEGAL pint in there to ..landlord had a fit when he found out I'd been going in for a good while before.Best bit was the danger as mum n dad were having drinypoo's in the nelson....Dred to think what would have happened if............

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-May-2011
    My first drink in a pub was in the Railway in Levenshulme at the corner of Albert Road. I was 15 wearing platform shoes. The order went like this:

    (Deep voice) Half a beer please
    Well, which one do want?
    (Immediately thrown) Er, what have you got?
    Bitter, mild, lager an... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 7-May-2011
    my fisrt drink was at granada bowls , you use to go upstairs to the bar 1 think i was only 14 i had a pint of lager and lime , lime !what a wus

  • Re: Pubs by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 10-May-2011
    The Vale Cottage was my local in the late 70's early 80's... the landlord then was called Ron Almond I believe he passed away recently... it was a great pub... couldn't move in there on a friday or saturday night... wilsons bitter was 25p a pint... happy days..

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-May-2011
    hey Colin, " If the bottom has fallen out of your world, DRINK Wilsons Bitter !!! And let the world fall out of your bottom. lol.

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 10-May-2011
    Wilsons always gave me heartburn. 6 pints of that and a curry from 'Wallies' (Belle Vue Restaurant on Hyde Road) gave me a gastric ulcer in my 20's. Didn't stop me though.

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-May-2011
    That song comes to mind by THE TROGGS... Wild thing you make my ring sting, haha lol.

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 11-May-2011
    i once did a runner from wallies, i waited a couple of months before i went back in , thinking they wouldnt recocgnise me but they did and gave me the previous bill. i had to laugh

  • Re: Pubs by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 11-May-2011
    My 2 mates at age 16 naively decided to do a runner from Wallies. They hadn't done it before, and when their meals arrived they scarpered down the road carrying them. I wouldn't have had the nerve to do such things.

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 11-May-2011
    I BET I KNOW YOUR MATES

  • Re: Pubs by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 11-May-2011
    And so does John Holmes Ex mill st.haha

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 11-May-2011
    Did you know Brian Roache John (Policeman at Mill Street) or was he a litte before your time?

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-May-2011
    Mary,
    Sorry, but I don't recall Brian, and like you say, it could be a bit before I arrived.
    John SAVIDENT, the butcher "Fred" in Coronation Street was also a Policeman at Mill Street, but just a few years before I got there too.
    If anyone knows any other names, please let me know.
    I also worked at Beswick Street in Ancoats, Whitworth Street in the City, and of course, the best of the lot, Gor... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 12-May-2011
    HI JOHN JUST WONDERED IF YOU KNEW RAY GRAHAM AS FAR AS I KNOW HE WORKED AT GREY MARE LANE, OR WAS THIS TO LATE FOR YOU

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 12-May-2011
    A couple of other names amongst my friends that were policeman were, Tommy Hulston and Alan Faulkner. Did you know them? I had a pen friend for years that was at Mill Street, but I forget his name, he went living in the Shetlands, but I have lost touch with him now, you wouldn't have known him anyway he'de be in his 80s now, but his letters were really interesting, the tales that man could tell ... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 13-May-2011
    Danny,
    Sorry mate, when I left Manchester, Mill Street was still operational and the site of the new Grey Mare Lane Police Station was back-to-back houses and shops.
    Mary,
    I certainly knew Alan Faulkner, although Alan was a little older than I, but he was a very good Police Officer.
    Another Gorton lad who was a long-serving Officer was Jim READY, but I heard some years ago that Jim had sadly passed away.
    John.

  • Re: Pubs by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 13-May-2011
    John ... I gave you the wrong name for the Policeman that came to St Mark's to give the road safety talks in the early 60's, it was Alan Faulkner.

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-May-2011
    Paul/Mary,
    Regarding Alan Faulkner:
    Can you remember if he finished up a Police Dog Handler, and can you remember if he ever lived in one of those four Police Houses on Hyde Road, right opposite Debdale Park?
    Although I knew him from Mill Street and Gorton, I have no idea where he finished up, as I eventually transferred to Gloucestershire.
    Thanks for the memories of Alan.

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 15-May-2011
    Last time I heard of Alan Faulkner, (about a year ago) I was told his wife Barbara, had died and he went regular to the monthly meetings, of St Marks reunions,It was his wife I knew more than him, but Paul (my son) remembers him teaching cycle safety to him in his school yard, I don't know how he ended up in the police work.But i can find out from a cousin of mine that went to these school reunions with him.

  • Re: Pubs by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-May-2011
    Mary,
    I would be really grateful if you could track Alan down or if it can be established where he finished up.
    I didn't know Alan was a former St Marks' lad - I was there between 1953 and 1959.
    Thanks Mary,
    John.

  • Re: Pubs by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 16-May-2011
    I'm trying to get some whereabouts of Alan, sent an e mail off to my cousin, but she hasn't been well lately, so I don't expect her to answer right away, anyway I will see what it brings, did you know Alan's brother's Harry, Tommy and Eric? we were the Sivouries milk bar crowd (on Hyde Road) when we had just left school,I left school in 48, and I reckon Alan was about 1948 too, so you are a lot y... more >>

  • Re: Pubs by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 2-Sep-2011
    i remember Alan faulkner, I used to play badminton with at St marks church hall ( next to Edmonds bakery on Hyde Road. He went to live in Denton off Hulme road.but I dont know if he moved on when Barbara died.

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Speedway by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
Do you remember the Speedway riders in Black Leathers? none of these bright colourd outfits they wear to day, and the track was cinders, you would often see someone get an eye full, or have someone take a cinder from your hair, and it was often we came out of the speedway with a dirty face through standing too near the fence, Saturday night was a good night at Belle
Vue, with all the trippers (a... more >>
  
  • Re: Speedway by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 25-Apr-2011
    The only ones I can remember are Ivor Major,Ove Fundin, Barry Briggs?, Fisher? Names that we all knew as well as our family seem to have, now faded into the mists of time again. I am sure others will fill in the GREAT names for us. thanks.

  • Re: Speedway by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I used to go every other Saturday to the Belle Vue Aces Speedway Track on Hyde Road.
    Peter Craven, sadly killed at Edinburgh, was the local herp, and a World Champion.
    I think Cyril Maidment and Dent Oliver were Managers for a while and the team had riders like Ove Fundin from Sweden.
    There was a funny little man, aged about 60, who drove the tractor round at break times with a rake on the back... more >>

  • Re: Speedway by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Notice I didn't mention the cost in those days, but it was one shilling and sixpence to go in, to day it costs a fortune to go in, if I am not mistaken it is about £17 each.

  • Re: Speedway by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Apr-2011
    How about Louis Lawson, Dent Oliver, Ken Sharples and that great skipper Jack Parker.

  • Re: Speedway by mavis fluerty (Member 10062155) on 7-May-2011
    Hi Ivan major lives here in New Zealand, think he teaches riding now retired of course, he is a New Zealander, so is Barry Brigg, think Ivan major has a riding school also, another one was Ronnie Moore also rode for the Aces.

  • Re: Speedway by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-May-2011
    I remember Ivan Mauger very well, that was a really golden age in the 60's and 70's.
    New Zealand and Scandinavia supplied an awful lot of speedway talent, and Belle Vue was the richest (and oldest) club, so a lot gravitated to Gorton.
    Later, eastern Europeans began to emerge as a force to be reckoned with, but it was truly an international sport, years before football's influx of foreign players... more >>

  • Re: Speedway by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-May-2011
    I was a fan of Ole Olsen myself, but I did swank to the Mauger fan's that I had been in Maugers bungalow and used his toilet,my husband had taken some glitter guards to him he had orderd for his bike, while my husband preferd Peter Collins to win the heats I preferd Ole Olsen, so it was good when they both rode together.

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Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 22-Apr-2011
I and my mates enjoyed many a day in Sutton Park - up the steps and along the passage way then into the park where, if my memory serves me right, on the left hand side were, the slide, monkey climber, junior swings. On the right hand side was, the roundabout, the jerker, the senior swings and the horse, with the maypole being in the middle. God, that jerker was something else, especially when you ... more >>   
  • Re: Sutton Park by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 23-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that Jack. Brought back memories, including the maypole which I'd forgotten about. You took your chances in those days, and if you got hurt it was through your own behaviour and no one else's fault.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 23-Apr-2011
    I was brought up in West Gorton, and previous came from near Sutton's estate, so when I went to Sunny Brow park I would show my mates this little park on sutton's estate, and used to feel good that only I knew it amongst them, it was good to think we were daring enough to use a park that only the kids on that estate was meant to be in, we often had squabbles with the local kids though, but to us i... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 23-Apr-2011
    Yes, you are correct about that Peter. Just imagine if all that cork matting had been laid down then like it is now in parks, I might even have taken a chance and let go of the handle on the Maypole and flown through the air. Nice soft landing. Ha, ha. I think it was turned into rent offices later, probably in the seventies or earlier.

    This lot today are putting claims in if the fall in the playground at school.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 23-Apr-2011
    I can imagine your friends surprise when you shown them Sutton Park tucked away off a street. Sunnybrow Park was tame compared to Sutton Park, well, sun shed apart, that is. most of my grandparents came from West Gorton,living in Bank Street, wherever that was. I haven't found out yet. Whereabouts in West Gorton did you live?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
    I lived on what they called the prison ground (in Forbes street) 1939- 1956 New Bank Street by the way was in Longsight

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 24-Apr-2011
    I know Forbes Street quite well. My local in the sixties was the Justice Birch just further down.I didn't say New Bank Street, Mary. The Bank Street, West Gorton, I am talking about was where my grandad was born in 1872. No 9 Bank Street, West Gorton, to be exact.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
    Sorry I thought you had got it wrong I didn't know Bank Street in West Gorton, and I have lived here for over 70 years where was it then?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 24-Apr-2011
    Can you throw some light on this Paul, you seem pretty good on the old Streets of West Gorton, where was bank street? did it change it's name?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 25-Apr-2011
    No.... Bank Street has got me beat as well, I was also thinking it was New Bank Street.
    I've gone through all my West Gorton maps through to 1845 and found no (Bank Street) mentioned.
    On the 1898 map there are alot of the streets marked out but unamed, then on the 1929 map all those streets are named, but they are all the old names you know them by anyway.

  • Re: Sutton Park by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    The only Bank Street I knew was off Ashton Old Road at Clayton, at the side of Clayton Aniline.
    Bank Street was Manchester United's second football ground - after Newton Heath - and one of the reasons they were forced to quit that site was because of the chemical fumes from nearby.
    Like others, I have never heard of a Bank Street in Gorton or West Gorton, but it seems strange that there was a Ne... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 26-Apr-2011
    I'm afraid there definitely was a Bank Street in West Gorton around the 1870's because it is on the 1881 census as the address where my granddad and other relatives were born. I think though that West Gorton covered a larger area in those days than it does now; I could be wrong with that, but I'm sure I have seen places that a lot later came under Gorton?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Re Bank St:
    There was a Bank St in Gorton, been to the library today and looked at a Slaters directory. It was off Wellington St on the same side as the Cosmo. It was between Bank St and Hope St On that stretch of Wellington St was the Globe Inn, Squire Holt (grocer) and Whelpton undertakers. Hope this helps.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Re Bank St:
    I meant to say Bank St was between Cross St and Hope St. Sorry!

  • Re: Sutton Park by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    On my 1958 A to Z, it shows it as Banville Street, and is linked onto Gorelan Road. Must have changed its name. Probably Tesco petrol station now.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 26-Apr-2011
    Thanks Kate, that's brilliant. I had an idea it might be more what is known as Gorton, than West Gorton, as most of my other relations are from around Queens Road and Belle Vue Street, areas. Having said that, however, I always assumed that Queens Road, and the streets off it, were in Gorton? Or would they be in West Gorton. I have some certificates that say Waddington Street, for instance, is in ... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Belle Vue St was definitely in West Gorton. What you say about Queens Rd is correct. At the top end near Hyde Rd it would be Gorton as the West Gorton/Gorton boundary lay somewhere near the entrance to Gorton Park on Hyde Rd.
    Towards the Gorton Lane end it would be West Gorton as St Francis church is definitely in West Gorton. Fascinating!

  • Re: Sutton Park by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 26-Apr-2011
    Regarding Queens Rd, I think The Gorton/West Gorton boundary lay near All Saints church and Blackwin St. I'm pretty certain that the streets past All Saints going to Hyde Rd were Gorton and in the opposite direction were West Gorton.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 27-Apr-2011
    Thanks to your detection work Kate, I've managed to find Bank St now running along side Cross St, sorry Jack.
    It's on an O.S. map from 1908 and does turn out to be the same street that you have have found Peter, named Banville St.
    Pin pointing it's exact spot on todays maps puts it in the back yard of the shops, now standing on the corner of Garratt Way and Wellington St. Just where the green ... more >>

  • Re: Sutton Park by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 27-Apr-2011
    http://bit.ly/eEBLBM
    I put the above into my browser and among some of the links it brought up was this one below.
    I didn't didn't want the FBI at my door so I didn't bring it up...LOL
    starbase.jpl.nasa.gov/mgn-v-rdrs-5-midr-c1-v1.0/mg.

  • Re: Sutton Park by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 27-Apr-2011
    Thanks everyone, at least I know where it was now, and certainly look forward to seeing Paul's map. Just as a matter of interest, I don't suppose anyone has a photo of Bank Street/Banville Street or the old Belle Vue Street depicting the houses?

  • Re: Sutton Park by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 28-Apr-2011
    Jack, go on Manchester City Council Libraries website (80,000 photos)and do a search for Wellington Street, Gorton. (You might be on there hours). If you click on photos 3 times to make them the largest, you can then right-click and "save as" to your own pc.

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Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by Tracy Smithers (Member 10259944) on 21-Apr-2011
Looking for anyone that might remember this family or of living in Rigg Street. My great grandparents were Charles and Florence Moores and my grandfather was John (Jack) Moores. I think that they lived at 10 or 11 Rigg Street. Would be great to hear anyones memories of my family or living in Rigg Street. Hope to hear from you.   
  • Re: Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Tracy, I lived at 65 Cambert Lane, Gorton and shared a back-entry with Rigg Street, which ran directly behind, and parallel to, Cambert Lane.
    Rigg Street was the first street on the right off Taylor Street walking towards Gorton Lane.
    It had a little off-licence and store on its corner with Taylor Street, and was a dead-end street.
    I am sorry I don't recall the name of your relatives, but our l... more >>

  • Re: Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by Tracy Smithers (Member 10259944) on 25-Apr-2011
    Hi John

    Great to hear all that information. My great grandmother Florence used to play the piano at a cinema. From the odd pictures have seen she was tall and thin. I haven't even seen a picture of my great grandad Charles. My grandfather John (Jack) Moores left to goto Canada when he was 16 but eventually came back until the war. Very briefly he moved back to Rigg Street in 1946 with his wife ... more >>

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Pat O'neil by Gary morris (Member 10236122) on 15-Apr-2011
Hi.

Im looking for Patricia O'neil who used to work at the Cee n Cee supermarket,Bulls head before it became Kwik Save.It was around 1978/79.She worked as a butchers assistant there.She had red hair & was fairly tall.She either lived around the Plough pub area of Hyde Rd,or behind the Angel pub.She had a younger brother who i think was also called Pat.I remember her saying that they owned a ca... more >>
  
  • Re: Pat O'neil by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Apr-2011
    Did she live on Peacock Street, Cambert lane end?
    Thats all I can help with, if its the same person.

  • Re: Pat O'neil by Gary morris (Member 10236122) on 21-Apr-2011
    Hi John.

    When i come to think of it,they did live on Peacock st.I dont suppose you see them at all??

  • Re: Pat O'neil by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 21-Apr-2011
    Sorry cant help any more than that.I was last on Peacock st. in 1977 ish, mum stayed on there, I was just back from Germany. But funny how you remember things/ names/ before that i lived there about71 /72. Still dont know where that name popped up from.sorry.good luck in your search.

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Easter by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 15-Apr-2011
Happy forthcoming Easter to all....that reminds me when, In school one Easter break me and my mate's went for a swim up at the resser's. When we got there it was covered in a thin layer of ICE.....Talk about a quick dip, I was in and out before I got wet,brrrrrrr. Probably kill me now.   
  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 15-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past , Zan Izal , the thick black distinfectant, great on the stone kitchen floor( its now known as Jayes fluid ) I buy it for outside its quite toxic and the advice given on the label is not to be usd indoors, but I have put a little in my mop bucket just to get the whiff

  • Re: Easter by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Julie, Smells from the past?. Did you ever come accross Russian Tallow. My Grandad kept a chunk of it in a kitchen cupboard, and what the heck he used it for goodess only knows, but it certainly did reek. Health and Safety would probably ban it now. Then there was my Gran`s Wintergreen,- I can still smell that stuff to this day!!.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past (1)
    When you went back to Infant's School in September, after the Summer Holidays, and the Education Committee had stripped and sanded your classroom floor and varnished it - remember that?
    Smells from the past (2)
    You have to be good to remember this - again at the start of a new Term or Year, the wonderful smell of the wood of a brand new wooden ruler?
    Smells from the pa... more >>

  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Apr-2011
    Oh the new crayons , what about the ink pens and pots and the blotting paper, the ink was always on my fingers where the ink ran down then I used to wipe it on my dress.

  • Re: Easter by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Apr-2011
    Did you ever split the knibs and shove them into the milk bottle straws....they made great darts, until you got caught. who sir..not me sir. yeah right.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Remember Monitors at school?
    1) Ink Monitor used to mix powdered ink in a white enamel jug, and then go round and fill up the inkwells that were little ceramic pots sitting in a hole on the desk.
    2) Blackboard Monitor had to use the duster to wipe the board at the end of each class, so the teacher had a clean board to start the next lesson with.
    3) Milk Monitor was responsible for dishing out t... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 17-Apr-2011
    The only thing I remember dipping in the ink well were my fingers, to hide the nicotine stains from the nurse. Ha, ha.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Are you a relative of Keith FORSHAW who was in my class at St Marks'?
    I'm sorry if I have asked you this before- could be one of my grey moments !

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Wouldn't it be lovely if they pulled down every house in West Gorton today, and rebuilt the old terraced houses out of re-claimed brick, proper damp-prooofing, central heating and little gardens, and we all moved back to live out our lives just talking about the old days, and going for a pint at the re-built pubs?
    They say you should never go back anywhere, but I guess it would work - or is that ... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 18-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past.
    The sickly smell of the gas at the school butchers,I mean the school dentists and that fuzzy headache afterwards.
    Re trying to write with pen and ink, I was useless, it looked like a spider had fallen into the inkwell and dragged itself across my school book and every now and then shaking a bit off to form pools of the stuff. I wasn't much better when the fountain pen came... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 19-Apr-2011
    Hello John,

    I do have a second cousin called Keith Forshaw who is the brother of Neil Forshaw, but I think he went to Gorton Mount and Wright Robinson? He would be 48 now.

    Jack

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Hi Jack,
    Thanks for getting back to me.
    It can't be the same lad, as Keith Forshaw would be 63 or 64 by now.
    Shame really, he was a really nice lad.
    Take care old friend.
    John.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Smells to Remember:
    The hot pitch or melting tar on the roads when it was a really hot summer, and the "tar machine" that the Council used to spray on the streets before putting a layer of little granite chips down.
    My Mother used to say (probably incorrectly) that if all kids could get lung-fulls of that 'vapour' they would "have nowt wrong wi'yum".
    Yeah, right Mother!!

  • Re: Easter by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Do you remember how the pitch would form into a bubble in the hot sun? we loved to pop the bubbles, but it was murder when we got it on our whit week new clothes and shoes, we would rub it with butter to try to get it off, but all it made was a spread of a brown stain around the black

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mary,
    I remember the old "rub butter on it, it will soon go away" routine - and you are right, all it seemed to do was spread the stain around.
    We used to make tar bombs with lolly sticks which had warm tar at one end, and throw them at each other.
    Remember getting hot tar stuck on the side of your best while "gollies", and all the Meltonian White in the world never got rid of it.

  • Re: Easter by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Apr-2011
    Smells to remember:

    The smell of the speedway track as the bikes went round. Unforgettable!

  • Re: Easter by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes it was the white gollies I had in mind John, do you remember how we whitened them? then left them to dry in the sun, they looked awful if we didn't keep them whitened, you would think we had payed a fortune to buy them, we took so much pride in them, and half the time we couldn't afford a good leather shoe.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Spot on about drying your "gollies" in the sun after they had been whitened.
    After a while, the Meltonian White rotted the fabric and they fell to pieces.
    Remember trying to whiten your laces, and getting more whitening on your fingers than on the laces?
    Happy, happy days.

  • Re: Easter by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    I always wanted Nike £180 gollies. ;-)

  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 11-May-2011
    Plastic sandles brown for school , as kids we hated them but was'nt they practical, my mother used to buy then for us kids for on the beach at blackpool then we would wear them for playing out in .
    Now they sell them everywear for kids and are quite popular their new name is Jellies they do alsorts of colours.
    A clog type version with a strap now known as crocks not for me I have to say but I... more >>

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-May-2011
    Is it me, or was the chocolate on Easter Eggs a lot thicker in the 1950's and 1960's?

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-May-2011
    Is it me, or was the chocolate on Easter Eggs a lot thicker in the 1950's and 1960's?

  • Re: Easter by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 26-May-2011
    I am sure you are right on this one John, Chocolate eggs are so much thinner these days. Also, has it been noticed that products like Penguin bars are now half the size and three times the cost.Wagon wheels were quite "large", whereas now they have shrunk, but the cost has`nt. There are other examples I could mention, but I guess you will get the point.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-May-2011
    Roy,
    Spot on old friend.
    "Jubblies" used to weigh a ton in frozen ice, rock hard, they would have sunk the Titanic, but now, they are really tiny.
    "Mars Bars" are definitely smaller.
    "Smarties" never have the same number of sweets in a tube as they used to be.
    Don't know about you Roy, I feel cheated these days!!

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Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
Who is the furthest away visitor / member to this lovely site? I now live in Claremorris, Mayo.Eire. What about you???   
  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    I live in Lincolnshire, close to the Norfolk Border

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Margaret Rochford (Member 10257531) on 14-Apr-2011
    I'm in County Wicklow, near Glendalough, not as far away as you John.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    Lovely Margaret, how are you honey - will email you this weekend - wish I lived in such a beautiful place as you - give my love to Avoca - my favourite church and village, xxx

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 15-Apr-2011
    I'm only in Haughton Green, but the journey seems endless with the new stupid cycle lanes they've put in around Far Lane. Tailbacks to Denton roundabout in the morning and to West Gorton in the evening. Green lights do not mean you can go, as you still have to sit there. Have seen one cyclist in 3 weeks using them. I hate Councils. They just muck everything up.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by julie (Member 10255407) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi , not been on for a while , hope all is well
    I am in Blackrod near Chorley not that far away , very pretty though ... Julie

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi All
    This comes from far away tropical Moston where the cyclist don't bother with cycle lanes, let those pedestrians use them they say. The cyclist use what was once called the pavement, They obviously think its much safer than cycling next to all that horrible traffic.
    Dave

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    You want to try driving round Trafalgar Square in London - there all the cars, vans, lorries and buses actually BORROW at bit of the road off Mountain Bikers - at least that is exactly how it feels.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    You want to try driving round Trafalgar Square in London - there all the cars, vans, lorries and buses actually BORROW at bit of the road off Mountain Bikers - at least that is exactly how it feels.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    You can say that again John. Oh, you did. ;-) ;-);-)

  • Re: Furthest Away. by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 16-Apr-2011
    I am Still in Gorton,i have been in Gorton since 1939 & proud of being a Gortonian

  • Re: Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Apr-2011
    Well said. althugh I was born in Paisley,Scotland.I was dragged up in Gorton, And feel that I too am a Gortonian, Iv'e been out in the deserts of Western Australia, now in Western Ireland.And people ask Where are you from ? and I say GORTON. And proud to do so.Never met more freindly people.Well done all of you.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Harold, that's fantastic to have lived on hallowed ground all those years, well done old friend.
    I have imagined John meeting an aborigine near Ayer's Rock, and the abo saying "I was born in Gorton, do you know it?"

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 17-Apr-2011
    I used to go camping all over the country with the Far Lane Scouts in the 1970's. People would ask me where I came from, and I would say Manchester. If I said near Belle Vue, they would often know the whereabouts. What a great shame it's all gone.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 17-Apr-2011
    Scary.... Funny thing happened when I met my first abbo girl, her name? was Paisley her Grandad was a jock.Good job he didn't come from Cheetam hill, she might have been called????

  • Re: Furthest Away. by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 10-May-2011
    I'm in Sydney Australia... been here since 1985, but have been back a few times to Gorton... revisiting the old memories, Peacock Street School, then Wright Robinson, although that's gone now!

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Eric Davies (Member 10270400) on 6-Feb-2012
    Vancouver Canada (over on the Pacific Side)since 2005. Visited Gorton more than a few times since I lived there and was born in 27 Clay Street 1950..My grandma Thompson also lived further up the same street until the mid sixties. Last visit back was around 2005 to the crematory where gran grandad are buried. Found everything apart from the churches and other old buildings look quite modern now.

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Hartland / Surrey gardens. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
Anybody any info on two lost pals from the above..Malcolm Sargeant or Ray Glass.? please.Thanks in advance.   
  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    Sorry John, can't help with this one mate.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
    no bother... you probably locked them up anyway.!!!ha ha.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    John, I tried to avoid locking up fellow Gortonians - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't - miss them all now though mate, really do.
    Take it easy John, good to hear from you.
    John.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-May-2011
    There's a few you wouldn't avoid locking up now John, believe me, Gorton has changed so much, but it's still the best place on earth to me

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-May-2011
    Totally agree, I miss West Gorton and Gorton and my heart always belongs there, but I wish it had stayed the great place that we all remembered from our childhood.
    I wish I had remembered more and I wish I had spoken to more people when I had the chance.

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School Reunion by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 12-Apr-2011
due to public demand a ANY age school reunion for St James Gorton and Peacock St Gorton will be held at the Lord Nelson pub on the first Sunday in June (thats 5th June 2011)starting 12.00-3.00pm, If last year is anything to go by it should be great Everyone is welcome , bring your memories, your school photos, and your partner's (if applicable)
Alan Bowden
  
  • Re: School Reunion by george gee (Member 10245909) on 12-Apr-2011
    my name is geoge gee (nickname JOGGER)and Iwas a pupil at SAINT JAMES before the war Ihave fond memories of TWINK MR PANTER MISS GREEN and MISS MORTON I was wondering if any of my old school chums are still knocking about and might be at the reunion I shall try my best to attend the re-union all the very best GEORGE GEE

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    George, try this link for St James on Friendsreunited:
    http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/school.page/Primary%20school/list/England/North%20West/Lancashire?term=saint%20james

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    Highlight the link, right-click and copy, then paste into your white address bar at the top of your browser page. Press enter and you should go straight there.

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The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 11-Apr-2011
Anyone used to go in the Pomona? We would go in the mid 1970's when a blind man used to play the organ, with his dog sitting patiently under the seat. Tony Marsden was the compere, and Renee Rhythm was the landlady, who sat at the back of the entertainment room, drinking from a tall glass that resembled a vase. It was a good night, with waiter service, but the jokes would always be the same. I did... more >>   
  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Apr-2011
    Do you mean the Bull's Head at Reddish?
    A builder's merchants?
    God, what has the world come to - a great pub reduced to that - we must be mad, how sad to hear that news - disgraceful.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    Yes John, the one at North Reddish. It went downhill a few years ago. The last time I went in the barmaid tried to do me out of my change. It was a very respectable pub at one time. The world's changed, but sadly not for the better.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Any self respecting "Gorton Boot Boy" would not have set foot in the Pomona, as it was a gay freindly pub, if I remember....well so I'm told.haha.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    It certainly was John, but frequented by many straight couples (like me and my missus). The gays would have a laugh and joke with you, and weren't politically correct in any sense. Never saw any trouble.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Do you know how to tell if a guy is Gay?....When he shuts HIS eyes when you kiss him.
    Do you know when a guy isn't Gay? When he shuts YOUR eyes when you kiss him. Great old jokes,haha no offence to anybody intended.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 13-Apr-2011
    I WORKED THERE IN THE LATER YEARS BEFORE IT CLOSE DOWN; YOU COULD SEE THE PUB GO DOWN EACH WEEK,I WAS DOING KARAOKE AND HAD MY DISCS PINCHED AND A FEW WEEKS LATER THE SECURITY GUY WAS HANDING THE KARAOKE BOOKS OUT TO MY DISCS , THE GUY WHO NICKED THEM OUT OF THE PUB SOLD THEM TO THIS GUY IN THE PUB , HOW HARD FACED CAN YOU GET?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Danny. I only ever went in the Pomona twice in the past,and it was`nt such a choice place then,- very run down. Did you or anyone go in the Fir Tree in Reddish. I played there in a trio for nearly five years at weekends. it was a good place then, good ale, and I made many friends there. Dont know what it is like these days, dont live over there now.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    Its heyday was the 60's and 70's. I went in a couple of times in the 1980's & 90's and it was so depressing.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    The Pomona, I mean. Last time I went in the Fir Tree, it seemed a bit rough.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just got back from seeing an old mate who lives in Delph near Oldham.
    The subject of the Pomona Inn at Reddish lane, and the landlady called Renee Rhythm cropped up.
    My mate told me she ran the first ever gay pub in Manchester (not the Rembrandt) and also ran the Northern Sporting Club in the Miles Platting/Ancoats area.
    He remembers her well, a real hard-case, but cannot remember the na... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Ye Foo Foo was a great entertainer, I remember going to see him a good few years back ,i was at a hen party, (His club was popular for this sort of thing) before his show the girls surrounded him and he made a big fuss of them, they seemed to think a lot of him, then when he went on stage dressed in drag, he would jokingly call them bitches for looking as glamourous as himself, he had relatives fa... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    It's funny Mary mentioned Frank Lamarr having a female following, it's perfectly true, and I always thought it was because women felt very safe and un-threatened in his company, much the same as today really.
    When I was a young Detective working in the Ancoats and Beswick area, the Police frequently laid on charity evenings to raise money for under-priveledged children in those areas (I am talkin... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes John I was going to mention I had heard Foo Foo was very giving, sounded like he was a good hearted fellow, I began to wish i had seen him more often, isn't it funny how you hear more of the good in people after they have died ?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just done some research:
    Frank Foo Foo Lamarr died aged 66 in 2003.
    Bunny Lewis died aged 71 in 2008.
    Few people know that Frank was a handy boxer, and could really look after himself, but a gentler, kinder Mancunian I never knew.
    He was a true gentleman, and I never heard anybody have a bad word for him - a sad loss.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Donna Barwick (Member 10269236) on 5-Jan-2012
    Hi I just came across this site whilst looking for the name Renee Rhythm. My father did relief for some time at the Pomona Pub, I think in 1986, I was about 10. We didnt know before living there but after a few days started to think the place was haunted. It was mainly lights, shadows, feeling something brush past on the stairs and the sound of a woman laughing in the concert room when the place... more >>

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Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Apr-2011
Did any of you kids from the 60's ever get a pushbike stolen? if you did, did you ever get the invite to go to Mill St, and go down stairs and see if it was there...if not pick one?   
  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
    Yeah, my little trusty was taken, still had its stabilisers on.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    I think that if the police did not find your bike, it would probably end up on Greymare lane market!!!!haha.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 8-Apr-2011
    Oh well, I guess thats put the 'mockers' on it then !!!! hehe

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    I was a detective at Mill Street Police Station between 1967 and 1979, and you're right, most stolen bikes finished up on Grey Mare Lane Market.
    When the cycle store got full up, we used to call all the local kids in, and give them a free bike.
    Happy Days.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    As detectives, we used to drink in the pub opposite the nick, it was called The Bradford - but the locals nicknamed it The Trough - where the pigs drank.
    All-in-all, we got on very well with the locals, all salt-of-the-earth blokes, and once a year we played cricket against them, or had a tug-of-war across some stinking canal in Ancoats, all for local kid's charities.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that... thought I may have had a senior moment...I can just about remember it.Funny how some things are vivid, and some a faint memory.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 12-Apr-2011
    Hi John
    The Bradford changed to some sort of sports pub but last year they demolished it, that another pub to bite the dust
    Dave

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Dave,
    I can't believe what the world is coming to, the Bradford demolished?
    I must have bought the equivalent of 50 bricks of that lovely building over the years, given the money I spent in there.
    The local lads were brilliant, mostly ex-miners from the old Bradford Pit down the road, and boy, could they drink!
    Another fine building ground to dust, we will never learn will we?
    Some numpty in ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mill Street Police Station had an old brick-built mortuary inside the cobbled rear-yard (used before the Central Mortuary was opened in Robert Street, Ancoats), and the local kids from Butterworth Street (at the back of the "nick"), would never go into the yard for fear of ghosts - which meant our hub-caps were safe at least.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Inside the "nick" it was all brass banisters and oak doors and lovely cream and green tiles up the walls - we used to say it looked like a Roman Bath with no water in it.
    In truth, the building must have cost a lot of money to build, and why is was pulled down I will never know - surely it could have been converted to offices or flats?
    Originally it had an Ambulance Station built into it and fac... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 6-May-2011
    My jnr school off Stockport Road was bombed, it was st Joseph's, am I right in thinking this is where the police building was later? there was a rumour going round amongst us kids that the later building was haunted.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Mary,
    I understand it started life as a Boy's Reform School, then became an Approved School and in the 1950's became a Police Station and Motor Garages for the (then) Manchester City Police.
    The Criminal Records Office, Recruiting, Tailoring,
    Bandroom, Serious Crime Squad, Stolen Car Squad, Regional Crime Squad and Police Cadet Corps, as well as the Fingerprint and Photographic Department were ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Graham Corbett (Member 10271490) on 9-Mar-2012
    John. Being a local copper in and around Gorton, did you ever know of a Patrick (Pat) Brady. He lived with his wife and two child in Trust Road on the Sutton estate from the late 50s to early 70's. I believe he too also worked out of Mill Street in the 1960's.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Stewart Adshead (Member 10283081) on 3-Mar-2013
    Graham, A very good friend of mine started his career at Belle Vue PS station, Eric Bradley he is now 61. Ring any bells??

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People by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
do the names Bibo Veevo Mariasa mean ring a bell to anyone. I think a Mariasa was in my class at Thomas Street Primary. I have been searching endlessly for a friend and her family with no results on planet earth... I have resorted to reporting them missing to the police along with a report of continuous interference in my life from a man from West Gorton , short stocky and with a limp. To those ... more >>   
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