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Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by Tracy Smithers (Member 10259944) on 21-Apr-2011
Looking for anyone that might remember this family or of living in Rigg Street. My great grandparents were Charles and Florence Moores and my grandfather was John (Jack) Moores. I think that they lived at 10 or 11 Rigg Street. Would be great to hear anyones memories of my family or living in Rigg Street. Hope to hear from you.   
  • Re: Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Tracy, I lived at 65 Cambert Lane, Gorton and shared a back-entry with Rigg Street, which ran directly behind, and parallel to, Cambert Lane.
    Rigg Street was the first street on the right off Taylor Street walking towards Gorton Lane.
    It had a little off-licence and store on its corner with Taylor Street, and was a dead-end street.
    I am sorry I don't recall the name of your relatives, but our l... more >>

  • Re: Moores Family living on Rigg Street 1913-1950's by Tracy Smithers (Member 10259944) on 25-Apr-2011
    Hi John

    Great to hear all that information. My great grandmother Florence used to play the piano at a cinema. From the odd pictures have seen she was tall and thin. I haven't even seen a picture of my great grandad Charles. My grandfather John (Jack) Moores left to goto Canada when he was 16 but eventually came back until the war. Very briefly he moved back to Rigg Street in 1946 with his wife ... more >>

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Pat O'neil by Gary morris (Member 10236122) on 15-Apr-2011
Hi.

Im looking for Patricia O'neil who used to work at the Cee n Cee supermarket,Bulls head before it became Kwik Save.It was around 1978/79.She worked as a butchers assistant there.She had red hair & was fairly tall.She either lived around the Plough pub area of Hyde Rd,or behind the Angel pub.She had a younger brother who i think was also called Pat.I remember her saying that they owned a ca... more >>
  
  • Re: Pat O'neil by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 18-Apr-2011
    Did she live on Peacock Street, Cambert lane end?
    Thats all I can help with, if its the same person.

  • Re: Pat O'neil by Gary morris (Member 10236122) on 21-Apr-2011
    Hi John.

    When i come to think of it,they did live on Peacock st.I dont suppose you see them at all??

  • Re: Pat O'neil by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 21-Apr-2011
    Sorry cant help any more than that.I was last on Peacock st. in 1977 ish, mum stayed on there, I was just back from Germany. But funny how you remember things/ names/ before that i lived there about71 /72. Still dont know where that name popped up from.sorry.good luck in your search.

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Easter by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 15-Apr-2011
Happy forthcoming Easter to all....that reminds me when, In school one Easter break me and my mate's went for a swim up at the resser's. When we got there it was covered in a thin layer of ICE.....Talk about a quick dip, I was in and out before I got wet,brrrrrrr. Probably kill me now.   
  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 15-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past , Zan Izal , the thick black distinfectant, great on the stone kitchen floor( its now known as Jayes fluid ) I buy it for outside its quite toxic and the advice given on the label is not to be usd indoors, but I have put a little in my mop bucket just to get the whiff

  • Re: Easter by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Julie, Smells from the past?. Did you ever come accross Russian Tallow. My Grandad kept a chunk of it in a kitchen cupboard, and what the heck he used it for goodess only knows, but it certainly did reek. Health and Safety would probably ban it now. Then there was my Gran`s Wintergreen,- I can still smell that stuff to this day!!.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past (1)
    When you went back to Infant's School in September, after the Summer Holidays, and the Education Committee had stripped and sanded your classroom floor and varnished it - remember that?
    Smells from the past (2)
    You have to be good to remember this - again at the start of a new Term or Year, the wonderful smell of the wood of a brand new wooden ruler?
    Smells from the pa... more >>

  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Apr-2011
    Oh the new crayons , what about the ink pens and pots and the blotting paper, the ink was always on my fingers where the ink ran down then I used to wipe it on my dress.

  • Re: Easter by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Apr-2011
    Did you ever split the knibs and shove them into the milk bottle straws....they made great darts, until you got caught. who sir..not me sir. yeah right.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Remember Monitors at school?
    1) Ink Monitor used to mix powdered ink in a white enamel jug, and then go round and fill up the inkwells that were little ceramic pots sitting in a hole on the desk.
    2) Blackboard Monitor had to use the duster to wipe the board at the end of each class, so the teacher had a clean board to start the next lesson with.
    3) Milk Monitor was responsible for dishing out t... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 17-Apr-2011
    The only thing I remember dipping in the ink well were my fingers, to hide the nicotine stains from the nurse. Ha, ha.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Are you a relative of Keith FORSHAW who was in my class at St Marks'?
    I'm sorry if I have asked you this before- could be one of my grey moments !

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Wouldn't it be lovely if they pulled down every house in West Gorton today, and rebuilt the old terraced houses out of re-claimed brick, proper damp-prooofing, central heating and little gardens, and we all moved back to live out our lives just talking about the old days, and going for a pint at the re-built pubs?
    They say you should never go back anywhere, but I guess it would work - or is that ... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 18-Apr-2011
    Smells from the past.
    The sickly smell of the gas at the school butchers,I mean the school dentists and that fuzzy headache afterwards.
    Re trying to write with pen and ink, I was useless, it looked like a spider had fallen into the inkwell and dragged itself across my school book and every now and then shaking a bit off to form pools of the stuff. I wasn't much better when the fountain pen came... more >>

  • Re: Easter by Jack Forshaw (Member 10258735) on 19-Apr-2011
    Hello John,

    I do have a second cousin called Keith Forshaw who is the brother of Neil Forshaw, but I think he went to Gorton Mount and Wright Robinson? He would be 48 now.

    Jack

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Hi Jack,
    Thanks for getting back to me.
    It can't be the same lad, as Keith Forshaw would be 63 or 64 by now.
    Shame really, he was a really nice lad.
    Take care old friend.
    John.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Smells to Remember:
    The hot pitch or melting tar on the roads when it was a really hot summer, and the "tar machine" that the Council used to spray on the streets before putting a layer of little granite chips down.
    My Mother used to say (probably incorrectly) that if all kids could get lung-fulls of that 'vapour' they would "have nowt wrong wi'yum".
    Yeah, right Mother!!

  • Re: Easter by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Do you remember how the pitch would form into a bubble in the hot sun? we loved to pop the bubbles, but it was murder when we got it on our whit week new clothes and shoes, we would rub it with butter to try to get it off, but all it made was a spread of a brown stain around the black

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mary,
    I remember the old "rub butter on it, it will soon go away" routine - and you are right, all it seemed to do was spread the stain around.
    We used to make tar bombs with lolly sticks which had warm tar at one end, and throw them at each other.
    Remember getting hot tar stuck on the side of your best while "gollies", and all the Meltonian White in the world never got rid of it.

  • Re: Easter by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Apr-2011
    Smells to remember:

    The smell of the speedway track as the bikes went round. Unforgettable!

  • Re: Easter by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes it was the white gollies I had in mind John, do you remember how we whitened them? then left them to dry in the sun, they looked awful if we didn't keep them whitened, you would think we had payed a fortune to buy them, we took so much pride in them, and half the time we couldn't afford a good leather shoe.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Spot on about drying your "gollies" in the sun after they had been whitened.
    After a while, the Meltonian White rotted the fabric and they fell to pieces.
    Remember trying to whiten your laces, and getting more whitening on your fingers than on the laces?
    Happy, happy days.

  • Re: Easter by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 26-Apr-2011
    I always wanted Nike £180 gollies. ;-)

  • Re: Easter by julie (Member 10255407) on 11-May-2011
    Plastic sandles brown for school , as kids we hated them but was'nt they practical, my mother used to buy then for us kids for on the beach at blackpool then we would wear them for playing out in .
    Now they sell them everywear for kids and are quite popular their new name is Jellies they do alsorts of colours.
    A clog type version with a strap now known as crocks not for me I have to say but I... more >>

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-May-2011
    Is it me, or was the chocolate on Easter Eggs a lot thicker in the 1950's and 1960's?

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-May-2011
    Is it me, or was the chocolate on Easter Eggs a lot thicker in the 1950's and 1960's?

  • Re: Easter by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 26-May-2011
    I am sure you are right on this one John, Chocolate eggs are so much thinner these days. Also, has it been noticed that products like Penguin bars are now half the size and three times the cost.Wagon wheels were quite "large", whereas now they have shrunk, but the cost has`nt. There are other examples I could mention, but I guess you will get the point.

  • Re: Easter by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-May-2011
    Roy,
    Spot on old friend.
    "Jubblies" used to weigh a ton in frozen ice, rock hard, they would have sunk the Titanic, but now, they are really tiny.
    "Mars Bars" are definitely smaller.
    "Smarties" never have the same number of sweets in a tube as they used to be.
    Don't know about you Roy, I feel cheated these days!!

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Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
Who is the furthest away visitor / member to this lovely site? I now live in Claremorris, Mayo.Eire. What about you???   
  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    I live in Lincolnshire, close to the Norfolk Border

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Margaret Rochford (Member 10257531) on 14-Apr-2011
    I'm in County Wicklow, near Glendalough, not as far away as you John.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    Lovely Margaret, how are you honey - will email you this weekend - wish I lived in such a beautiful place as you - give my love to Avoca - my favourite church and village, xxx

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 15-Apr-2011
    I'm only in Haughton Green, but the journey seems endless with the new stupid cycle lanes they've put in around Far Lane. Tailbacks to Denton roundabout in the morning and to West Gorton in the evening. Green lights do not mean you can go, as you still have to sit there. Have seen one cyclist in 3 weeks using them. I hate Councils. They just muck everything up.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by julie (Member 10255407) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi , not been on for a while , hope all is well
    I am in Blackrod near Chorley not that far away , very pretty though ... Julie

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi All
    This comes from far away tropical Moston where the cyclist don't bother with cycle lanes, let those pedestrians use them they say. The cyclist use what was once called the pavement, They obviously think its much safer than cycling next to all that horrible traffic.
    Dave

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    You want to try driving round Trafalgar Square in London - there all the cars, vans, lorries and buses actually BORROW at bit of the road off Mountain Bikers - at least that is exactly how it feels.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 15-Apr-2011
    You want to try driving round Trafalgar Square in London - there all the cars, vans, lorries and buses actually BORROW at bit of the road off Mountain Bikers - at least that is exactly how it feels.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    You can say that again John. Oh, you did. ;-) ;-);-)

  • Re: Furthest Away. by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 16-Apr-2011
    I am Still in Gorton,i have been in Gorton since 1939 & proud of being a Gortonian

  • Re: Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Apr-2011
    Well said. althugh I was born in Paisley,Scotland.I was dragged up in Gorton, And feel that I too am a Gortonian, Iv'e been out in the deserts of Western Australia, now in Western Ireland.And people ask Where are you from ? and I say GORTON. And proud to do so.Never met more freindly people.Well done all of you.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 17-Apr-2011
    Harold, that's fantastic to have lived on hallowed ground all those years, well done old friend.
    I have imagined John meeting an aborigine near Ayer's Rock, and the abo saying "I was born in Gorton, do you know it?"

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 17-Apr-2011
    I used to go camping all over the country with the Far Lane Scouts in the 1970's. People would ask me where I came from, and I would say Manchester. If I said near Belle Vue, they would often know the whereabouts. What a great shame it's all gone.

  • Re: Furthest Away. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 17-Apr-2011
    Scary.... Funny thing happened when I met my first abbo girl, her name? was Paisley her Grandad was a jock.Good job he didn't come from Cheetam hill, she might have been called????

  • Re: Furthest Away. by colin barber (Member 10261221) on 10-May-2011
    I'm in Sydney Australia... been here since 1985, but have been back a few times to Gorton... revisiting the old memories, Peacock Street School, then Wright Robinson, although that's gone now!

  • Re: Furthest Away. by Eric Davies (Member 10270400) on 6-Feb-2012
    Vancouver Canada (over on the Pacific Side)since 2005. Visited Gorton more than a few times since I lived there and was born in 27 Clay Street 1950..My grandma Thompson also lived further up the same street until the mid sixties. Last visit back was around 2005 to the crematory where gran grandad are buried. Found everything apart from the churches and other old buildings look quite modern now.

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Hartland / Surrey gardens. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
Anybody any info on two lost pals from the above..Malcolm Sargeant or Ray Glass.? please.Thanks in advance.   
  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    Sorry John, can't help with this one mate.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 14-Apr-2011
    no bother... you probably locked them up anyway.!!!ha ha.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Apr-2011
    John, I tried to avoid locking up fellow Gortonians - sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't - miss them all now though mate, really do.
    Take it easy John, good to hear from you.
    John.

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 8-May-2011
    There's a few you wouldn't avoid locking up now John, believe me, Gorton has changed so much, but it's still the best place on earth to me

  • Re: Hartland / Surrey gardens. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-May-2011
    Totally agree, I miss West Gorton and Gorton and my heart always belongs there, but I wish it had stayed the great place that we all remembered from our childhood.
    I wish I had remembered more and I wish I had spoken to more people when I had the chance.

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School Reunion by Alan Bowden (Member 10251584) on 12-Apr-2011
due to public demand a ANY age school reunion for St James Gorton and Peacock St Gorton will be held at the Lord Nelson pub on the first Sunday in June (thats 5th June 2011)starting 12.00-3.00pm, If last year is anything to go by it should be great Everyone is welcome , bring your memories, your school photos, and your partner's (if applicable)
Alan Bowden
  
  • Re: School Reunion by george gee (Member 10245909) on 12-Apr-2011
    my name is geoge gee (nickname JOGGER)and Iwas a pupil at SAINT JAMES before the war Ihave fond memories of TWINK MR PANTER MISS GREEN and MISS MORTON I was wondering if any of my old school chums are still knocking about and might be at the reunion I shall try my best to attend the re-union all the very best GEORGE GEE

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    George, try this link for St James on Friendsreunited:
    http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/school.page/Primary%20school/list/England/North%20West/Lancashire?term=saint%20james

  • Re: School Reunion by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 1-May-2011
    Highlight the link, right-click and copy, then paste into your white address bar at the top of your browser page. Press enter and you should go straight there.

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The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 11-Apr-2011
Anyone used to go in the Pomona? We would go in the mid 1970's when a blind man used to play the organ, with his dog sitting patiently under the seat. Tony Marsden was the compere, and Renee Rhythm was the landlady, who sat at the back of the entertainment room, drinking from a tall glass that resembled a vase. It was a good night, with waiter service, but the jokes would always be the same. I did... more >>   
  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 11-Apr-2011
    Do you mean the Bull's Head at Reddish?
    A builder's merchants?
    God, what has the world come to - a great pub reduced to that - we must be mad, how sad to hear that news - disgraceful.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    Yes John, the one at North Reddish. It went downhill a few years ago. The last time I went in the barmaid tried to do me out of my change. It was a very respectable pub at one time. The world's changed, but sadly not for the better.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Any self respecting "Gorton Boot Boy" would not have set foot in the Pomona, as it was a gay freindly pub, if I remember....well so I'm told.haha.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 12-Apr-2011
    It certainly was John, but frequented by many straight couples (like me and my missus). The gays would have a laugh and joke with you, and weren't politically correct in any sense. Never saw any trouble.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 12-Apr-2011
    Do you know how to tell if a guy is Gay?....When he shuts HIS eyes when you kiss him.
    Do you know when a guy isn't Gay? When he shuts YOUR eyes when you kiss him. Great old jokes,haha no offence to anybody intended.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 13-Apr-2011
    I WORKED THERE IN THE LATER YEARS BEFORE IT CLOSE DOWN; YOU COULD SEE THE PUB GO DOWN EACH WEEK,I WAS DOING KARAOKE AND HAD MY DISCS PINCHED AND A FEW WEEKS LATER THE SECURITY GUY WAS HANDING THE KARAOKE BOOKS OUT TO MY DISCS , THE GUY WHO NICKED THEM OUT OF THE PUB SOLD THEM TO THIS GUY IN THE PUB , HOW HARD FACED CAN YOU GET?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 15-Apr-2011
    Hi Danny. I only ever went in the Pomona twice in the past,and it was`nt such a choice place then,- very run down. Did you or anyone go in the Fir Tree in Reddish. I played there in a trio for nearly five years at weekends. it was a good place then, good ale, and I made many friends there. Dont know what it is like these days, dont live over there now.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    Its heyday was the 60's and 70's. I went in a couple of times in the 1980's & 90's and it was so depressing.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Apr-2011
    The Pomona, I mean. Last time I went in the Fir Tree, it seemed a bit rough.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just got back from seeing an old mate who lives in Delph near Oldham.
    The subject of the Pomona Inn at Reddish lane, and the landlady called Renee Rhythm cropped up.
    My mate told me she ran the first ever gay pub in Manchester (not the Rembrandt) and also ran the Northern Sporting Club in the Miles Platting/Ancoats area.
    He remembers her well, a real hard-case, but cannot remember the na... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Ye Foo Foo was a great entertainer, I remember going to see him a good few years back ,i was at a hen party, (His club was popular for this sort of thing) before his show the girls surrounded him and he made a big fuss of them, they seemed to think a lot of him, then when he went on stage dressed in drag, he would jokingly call them bitches for looking as glamourous as himself, he had relatives fa... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    It's funny Mary mentioned Frank Lamarr having a female following, it's perfectly true, and I always thought it was because women felt very safe and un-threatened in his company, much the same as today really.
    When I was a young Detective working in the Ancoats and Beswick area, the Police frequently laid on charity evenings to raise money for under-priveledged children in those areas (I am talkin... more >>

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 25-Apr-2011
    Yes John I was going to mention I had heard Foo Foo was very giving, sounded like he was a good hearted fellow, I began to wish i had seen him more often, isn't it funny how you hear more of the good in people after they have died ?

  • Re: The Pomona pub by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I have just done some research:
    Frank Foo Foo Lamarr died aged 66 in 2003.
    Bunny Lewis died aged 71 in 2008.
    Few people know that Frank was a handy boxer, and could really look after himself, but a gentler, kinder Mancunian I never knew.
    He was a true gentleman, and I never heard anybody have a bad word for him - a sad loss.

  • Re: The Pomona pub by Donna Barwick (Member 10269236) on 5-Jan-2012
    Hi I just came across this site whilst looking for the name Renee Rhythm. My father did relief for some time at the Pomona Pub, I think in 1986, I was about 10. We didnt know before living there but after a few days started to think the place was haunted. It was mainly lights, shadows, feeling something brush past on the stairs and the sound of a woman laughing in the concert room when the place... more >>

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Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 7-Apr-2011
Did any of you kids from the 60's ever get a pushbike stolen? if you did, did you ever get the invite to go to Mill St, and go down stairs and see if it was there...if not pick one?   
  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
    Yeah, my little trusty was taken, still had its stabilisers on.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    I think that if the police did not find your bike, it would probably end up on Greymare lane market!!!!haha.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 8-Apr-2011
    Oh well, I guess thats put the 'mockers' on it then !!!! hehe

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    I was a detective at Mill Street Police Station between 1967 and 1979, and you're right, most stolen bikes finished up on Grey Mare Lane Market.
    When the cycle store got full up, we used to call all the local kids in, and give them a free bike.
    Happy Days.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    As detectives, we used to drink in the pub opposite the nick, it was called The Bradford - but the locals nicknamed it The Trough - where the pigs drank.
    All-in-all, we got on very well with the locals, all salt-of-the-earth blokes, and once a year we played cricket against them, or had a tug-of-war across some stinking canal in Ancoats, all for local kid's charities.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 8-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that... thought I may have had a senior moment...I can just about remember it.Funny how some things are vivid, and some a faint memory.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 12-Apr-2011
    Hi John
    The Bradford changed to some sort of sports pub but last year they demolished it, that another pub to bite the dust
    Dave

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Dave,
    I can't believe what the world is coming to, the Bradford demolished?
    I must have bought the equivalent of 50 bricks of that lovely building over the years, given the money I spent in there.
    The local lads were brilliant, mostly ex-miners from the old Bradford Pit down the road, and boy, could they drink!
    Another fine building ground to dust, we will never learn will we?
    Some numpty in ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Mill Street Police Station had an old brick-built mortuary inside the cobbled rear-yard (used before the Central Mortuary was opened in Robert Street, Ancoats), and the local kids from Butterworth Street (at the back of the "nick"), would never go into the yard for fear of ghosts - which meant our hub-caps were safe at least.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Inside the "nick" it was all brass banisters and oak doors and lovely cream and green tiles up the walls - we used to say it looked like a Roman Bath with no water in it.
    In truth, the building must have cost a lot of money to build, and why is was pulled down I will never know - surely it could have been converted to offices or flats?
    Originally it had an Ambulance Station built into it and fac... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Mary Clarke (Twin of Magaret) (Member 10227220) on 6-May-2011
    My jnr school off Stockport Road was bombed, it was st Joseph's, am I right in thinking this is where the police building was later? there was a rumour going round amongst us kids that the later building was haunted.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Mary,
    I understand it started life as a Boy's Reform School, then became an Approved School and in the 1950's became a Police Station and Motor Garages for the (then) Manchester City Police.
    The Criminal Records Office, Recruiting, Tailoring,
    Bandroom, Serious Crime Squad, Stolen Car Squad, Regional Crime Squad and Police Cadet Corps, as well as the Fingerprint and Photographic Department were ... more >>

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Graham Corbett (Member 10271490) on 9-Mar-2012
    John. Being a local copper in and around Gorton, did you ever know of a Patrick (Pat) Brady. He lived with his wife and two child in Trust Road on the Sutton estate from the late 50s to early 70's. I believe he too also worked out of Mill Street in the 1960's.

  • Re: Mill St, cop shop. by Stewart Adshead (Member 10283081) on 3-Mar-2013
    Graham, A very good friend of mine started his career at Belle Vue PS station, Eric Bradley he is now 61. Ring any bells??

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People by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 7-Apr-2011
do the names Bibo Veevo Mariasa mean ring a bell to anyone. I think a Mariasa was in my class at Thomas Street Primary. I have been searching endlessly for a friend and her family with no results on planet earth... I have resorted to reporting them missing to the police along with a report of continuous interference in my life from a man from West Gorton , short stocky and with a limp. To those ... more >>   
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Gorton Baths by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 6-Apr-2011
Are the baths still standing? I can remember going to above for a hot bath, we did not have hot water,central heating or owt like that.Couldn't you take your washing there to?   
  • Re: Gorton Baths by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-Apr-2011
    Hi John, no they were knocked down in 2007.
    A couple of years before that they were used as a Gymnastics centre for kids though.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 6-Apr-2011
    What sad news! I spent many an happy hour in the swimming baths, we went with Thomas St school every week. I remember how proud I was when I got my free pass for swimming so many lengths. Also, many fond memories of the wash baths, where you could hire soap and towel for a few pence. The woman in charge was very strict and shout for you to come out if she thought you'd been in too long!

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 6-Apr-2011
    The wash-house and hot baths were in the same building. I think for most women Monday was 'wash day' where as well as the washing they would enjoy a good gossip, and why not?

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 6-Apr-2011
    I believe they were subject to an arson attack by 2 teenage girls, and demolition was the only viable option.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-Apr-2011
    My late Dad used to take my brother Chris and I every Friday night when we lived on Clowes Street, and his mate Billy RENWICK taught us both to swim.
    I still have my framed one length certificate dated
    1958.
    I rememeber it was two pence for a cup of steaming OXO after your swim, and Saturdays was bath day, six pence for a soap and towel, and as much cold water as you liked, but only after the ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 7-Apr-2011
    The Wash House was my Mum's weekly day out in the 60's and early 70's. She just enjoyed the company. She would push a pram full of washing from Suttons Estate to Gorton Wash House. If our dog was out it would follow her, so to keep it safe from the traffic she would put Shep on the pram on top of the washing where the dog would look proud.

    Sometimes, mum and a neighbour would make it a real tre... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 7-Apr-2011
    I have loads of memories of Gorton baths brought back reading other comments. I too was taught to swim there with Thomas Street and also the cubs.
    Openshaw Tech had the house swimming Gala there as did the cubs when i was about 10. The memories I treasure most are of going with my late Dad early on a Sunday morning, that was a real treat.
    Dave

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 8-Apr-2011

    My Mam went to the wash-house every Saturday. She had a pram load of clothes. When she came home, everything was put on the clothes rack up on the ceiling, remember those, brilliant idea really.
    The wash-baths...that was a Saturday afternoon ritual for us. Although, I have to say I enjoyed the days when the galvanized tub ( hung on wall in air-raid shelter ) was brought in and we'd have a b... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 8-Apr-2011
    Hi Irene. Yes, and we all shared the same water. I remember pans and kettles of hot water being brought from the kitchen to fill it up. Due to the metallic tub, the water appeared grimy before anyone had bathed in it so it didn't look any dirtier when 5 of us had used it. Mum always used Fairy Household soap in almost brick size bars, and it didn't smell that good. No bathroom though of course.

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 8-Apr-2011
    Pete and Irene,
    I remember those circular galvanised tubs only too well, and the soap? It was like carbolic acid, stung your eyes like mad, and when it dried, it had cracks in it and sharp edges you cut cut you fingers on!
    Palmolive was green and Sunlight was kind of whitish yellow, both were none-too-gentle on the skin, but they got the filth off us kids.
    Friday night was always bath night in ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 9-Apr-2011
    I was born in 1937 and I was twenty before I saw an inside loo. Now, I have three to clean.
    We didn't miss what we'd never had though did we.
    Going outside to the loo toughed up us too... Brrr....

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 9-Apr-2011
    Wonderful days. Would I go back? Only as an observer. :-)

  • Re: Gorton Baths by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 10-Apr-2011
    Nor would I.Still, we can laugh about about 'em now can't we!

  • Re: Gorton Baths by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 16-Apr-2011
    Does anyone remember Mr Jackson the swimming teacher at Gorton Baths he had a son called John who swam for the England schools swimming team

  • Re: Gorton Baths by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember as a young Policeman at Gorton Police Station on Hyde Road being called to an Intruder Alarm activation at Gorton Wash-House, next to Gorton Baths, in the middle of the night.
    As I walked in with the key-holder, I shone my torch and saw that there were literally thousands of black-jacks scurrying across the concrete floor.
    Needless to say, I got out pretty quickly.
    One of the things ... more >>

  • Re: Gorton Baths by derek Barber (Member 10264804) on 7-Sep-2011
    Harold I remember Mr Jackson . It seemed like he had been at Gorton baths for ever.I dont know if he took a dislike to me but when I took my life saving badge he put me with the tallest guy he could find.9I was on the small sideThe guy was called Colin Brierly, I dont know if anybody remembers him.

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Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 3-Apr-2011
what ever happened to the Books family on Parkdale Road? I was an old friend of Robert.   
  • Re: Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    Parkdale Ave Val, Hilary, Rose,Robert,Linda Brooks?

  • Re: Andrew by louise (Member 10259968) on 4-Apr-2011
    My step grandad was cyril Parkinson also from Gorton born about 1920? one of four boys youngest left home to live with a women from Bolton

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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
J.F Kennedy's Assassination: November 1963:
I had travelled from Belle Vue, Gorton to Queens Road, Cheetham Hill on the 53 bus that afternoon with my school-mate Tom BILLINGTON, and we walked to the Bowling Alley round the corner on Cheetham Hill Road, it was in a converted cinema.
Halfway through our game, around tea-time, there was a radio announcement that Kennedy had been shot dead in Dallas... more >>
  
  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Manchester United Air Crash: February 1958:
    I was at home on Clowes Street in the evening when my Dad William HOLMES came in with the Manchester Evening News that told the story of the crash.
    This would have been the day after, and the news stunned the whole of West Gorton, as well as the rest of Manchester.
    I remember my Dad was in tears as he read the paper, and we talked about this a lot whe... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Queen Elizabeth's Coronation: June 1953:
    I was a tiny youngster at St Marks' on Clowes Streetwhen the coronation took place on 2nd June that year.
    I remember that the main street party near us was in Spurgeon Street off William Street, and when my mother collected me from school, I saw all the trestle tables laid out with butties, cakes and drinks, with colourful bunting criss-crossing the stree... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Sweets Coming Off Rationing: February 1953:
    I was a child living at 126 Clowes Street, West Gorton when sweets came off post-war rationing on 5th February.
    Although I could not remember the date then, I remember the announcement, and my brother Christopher and I went to the sweet-shop that stood on the opposite side of Clowes Street, on its corner with William Street, facing St Mark's church.
    A... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Taking the Eleven-Plus Examination: 1959:
    I can't remember the date exactly, it must have been early on in the year, but I remember walking to Openshaw Technical High School near Ashbury's Station with my mate from St. Mark's, Keith (Fudgie) BROOKS to sit the exam.
    I remember that all the ten year olds from St Marks' went to the same location that year to sit the Eleven-Plus, but for the life of... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Manchester City's FA Cup Win: May 1956:
    I was never a Man City fan, but can remember feeling proud when they beat Birmingham City 3-1 at Wembley on 5th May that year.
    My Dad was a bigger Red than me, but he took me to Manchester's London Road Railway Station (later to be demolished and re-built as Manchester's Piccadilly Railway Station)when Man City brought the FA Cup back to the City on the tr... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Man's First Landing on the Moon: 1969:
    Like most other families, we were huddled round the little black and white TV in our "best room" when Neil ARMSTRONG landed on the moon.
    It was quite unreal, and as young children my brother Christopher and I could not really grasp what had happened, and the achievment was only appreciated by me years later.
    On the date of the moon landing, we were living ... more >>

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 3-Apr-2011
    Re the Moon Landing, neighbours in Trust Road squeezed into one house to see it in colour on a colour set, and the damned thing was in black and white anyway. I recall there was a delay of about 3 hours from the time they were due to land so we went out to play for a couple of hours.

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Moon Landing, did it actualy happen? or was it another conspiracy.mmmmmmmmmmmmm Must stop them bloody tablets.haha.I was in Morecambe visiting my sister, she just had a baby on the 18july.

  • Re: WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THIS HAPPENED? by Dennis Barker (Member 10261276) on 12-May-2011
    Manchester City Cup Final Win...
    I was there in 1955 when they played most of the game with 10 men (no subs allowed) and lost 3-1 to Newcastle then back again in 1956 to beat Brum 3-1 and hoist the Cup.

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The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 28-Mar-2011
Anybody remember Cyril Shelmerdine's Mace shop, next to Les Page the Butcher,and opposite The Newsagents on Gorton Lane.? He was in the R.A.F during the war,bomber command and according to rumour was shot down.!!! any info please.ta.   
  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hiya John, yes I remember a mate of mine Peter Plant, saying he had got a part time job at a grocers called Shelmerdine's on Gorton Lane. He started doing Saturday's then began doing most nights after school at Bishop Greer, he did mention something about him being an ex RAF pilot and having a sports car late in life.
    Peter went on to being the manager of the Tesco's at Openshaw and Stalybridge last I heard.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 29-Mar-2011
    Well it's a small world....I followed Peter into that same job,I was at B/G with Peter too, forgot about him,thanks.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    Were you in the same year as us then, only I don't remember your name.
    Others in our class were:-
    Stuart Milner, Chris Penson, Mike Evans and Vivian Hannon who I was with through Primary school as well. Dennis Allen, Dave Mc Intyre, Chris Owen, Peter Hulley, Tony Boden.
    Lesley Mellor, Janice Ashworth, Lynn Rowlinson, Lynn Stanley, Gillian Smith, Ann Thompson.

    In the same year but differe... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 30-Mar-2011
    non of the above sorry!!name I remember are,Eddie Riley,Billy Young, Malcolm Alcock,Derek Beamish,Dave o'Shaunessy jimmy Pledger.Sue Pearson,Gale Clay,Agnes ?,Doreen Elms,and the first black lass in the school..Absa Drameh,who ended up my girl freind, Teresa Minchion...Any Help.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 31-Mar-2011
    Hi John.
    Looking at those names I only recognise Derek Beamish's, but I think he was a couple of years above me. There was also a Sharon o'Shaunessy in our class now come to think of it.
    Peter Plant had an older brother at B.G, about 2 or 3 years above me named Alan. Did you know him? he went working as a Cabinet Maker when he left.

  • Re: The Mace Shop by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 31-Mar-2011
    Derek married Aggie Foster class room romance,they are still together. Derek used to live on that row of houses next to the steelworks pub, opposit the Bessemere pub on Taylor street corner. Cant remember others sorry.
    Can you remember when the headmaster Mr.Sutherland slapped Dave O'Shaunessy on the stage in a school assembly??? couldn't do it these days,mores the pity!!!

  • Re: The Mace Shop by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-May-2011
    The first message in this section makes mention of Les PAGE, a butcher on Gorton Lane.
    I knew him well, he was the younger brother of Mrs ELLOR who was married to an ex-Policeman Mr ELLOR who ran that newsagency.
    I courted their daughter, Janet ELLOR, in 1964, who was of course Les PAGE's niece, and a very nice man.
    I often wonder what happened to him and to the ELLOR family, particularly Janet... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 10-Jun-2011
    Hello John,
    I,m a fellow Gortonian and new to the site.
    My family lived in Whittaker St, off Gorton Lane,
    My dads local was the Steelework's Tavern,and his best friend was Jack Beamish, he lived on that row of houses next to the Steeleworks pub, so Derek must be his son, I believe he had a sister named Pamela, only yesterday I was going through some old family photo's and I came across
    a weddi... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Kathleen Parker (Member 10257688) on 20-Jul-2012
    Hi Ive just seen your thread about Jack Beamish , I see Dereks wife Agnes now and then she works in Hyde so if you want me to pass a message on I will do thanks

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Roger Lee (Member 10284447) on 7-Apr-2013
    This is my first post to this site. I well remember Cyril Shelmerdine, though not as the Mace Shop. Perhaps that came after me! I worked for him from '61 to '64, as his order boy. He was a great bloke, and his wife a lovely woman. I was born and bred in Beyer St., and the back gate of our back yard faced on to the row of shops that included Shelmerdines, Broxton's Greengrocers, the Barbers Topping... more >>

  • Re: The Mace Shop by Roger Lee (Member 10284447) on 20-Apr-2014
    Regarding the two postings re Derek Beamish, he is/was my cousin. His mother May was a sister of my mother Elsie, and I well remember Derek, his sister Pam, and their older brother John. I think there were two more siblings, but don't remember their names. I also remember their father Jack, and his brother Jim, who lived with them at the house down the cutting from the Steelworks. Happy Gorton day... more >>

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Account Delete by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 23-Mar-2011
Hello, Could anyone tell me how I can delete my knowhere.co.uk account, cheers.   
  • Re: Account Delete by dave Jones (Member 10246485) on 23-Mar-2011
    Its not obvious so I suggest you click on the "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page, in there is a section titled "correct/update" and follow the instructions and contact them with your request. Hope this helps.

  • Re: Account Delete by Diane Farmer (Member 10250547) on 23-Mar-2011
    Thanks Dave, i will try that.

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Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 22-Mar-2011
Hi does anyone know anything of the Lamb family Lived in Walnut Street until 1967/8 I ask as I know hardly anything about my family..
Any information appreciated
Peter
  
  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 24-Mar-2011
    Hi Peter
    I am not sure if it is the same Lamb's that I have a slight connection with .
    I know of a Grace Lamb dont know her maiden name who I know had a couple of sons and a daughter she married a Bob Skarratt.
    Both Grace and Bob are no longer with us, but the two sons are around I heard in the Denton area.
    Might not be the ones you are looking for but I have heard of the lambs and that they ... more >>

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 24-Mar-2011
    Thomas Lamb lorries on Wellington St was taken over by his daughter Vera Lamb when her dad died, I've never known if they were really a Gorton family though.
    She married a Polish man Julian Geboly, and lived on a a farm in Woodford in the 50's - 60's, the firm went into liquidation early in 1969.
    I'm intrigued now to see if there is a link?

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi Paul
    Grace Lamb ( lamb being her married name) dont know her maiden name, but her husband might have been called Robert or Ernie as they had two sons named Robert and Ernie. Grace was from Gorton and rests in Gorton cemetery
    Grace later married a Skarratt, dont know what her ex husband did or does, but their two sons I think are around possibly the Denton area.

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi thanks for that, some more details, my father was called George and my mother Irene. I never got to find anything out about my family as my mother was not keen to talk about it..

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi
    I am sure the name George Lamb has been mentioned on here , lets keep trying .... julie

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Thnk I was thinking George Lamb the actor, off Eastenders with Tv presenter son Larry or the other way round .... yes the other way round

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 25-Mar-2011
    Sure it wasn't Joe Lamb from West Gorton, he's been mentioned a few times?

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by julie (Member 10255407) on 25-Mar-2011
    Hi Kate , it could be Joe Lamb that I have seen on here.
    A Peter Lamb is wanting info on the Lambs maybe they are his relatives

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by Peter Lamb (Member 10259498) on 26-Mar-2011
    Thanks for replies to my question.. I believe my great grandfather was a Thomas Lamb married to a Gertrude Lamb and that my grandfather was a George William Lamb who was a driver in the army and died in 1943 when my father was a kid. Whether this is the same Tommy Lamb as the Gorton firm I do not know.

  • Re: Lamb Family Walnut Street. by mavis murray (Member 10262272) on 11-Jun-2011
    Lamb family,
    Re Joe Lamb mentioned by another member,
    I remember Joe Lamb he was a friendly man,when I was about 8 I would often pass Joe on my way to All Saints school, he would be walking down Laurence Street, and would offer me an orange he alway's seemed to have oranges and always greeted me and the kids by saying "hello my old cock sparrow" he was very overweight and use to wear white plim... more >>

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doctors by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 22-Mar-2011
does any body remember dr ross on gorton lane near peacock st school or dr levy at mount rd surgery. i remember these 2 because they both smoked cigars when you went to see them   
  • Re: doctors by David McWilliams (Member 10258333) on 22-Mar-2011
    Danny, I don't remember these doctors but my doctor was Dr Devlin on Hyde Road near the railway bridge. He also smoked and had bottle of whiskey on his desk which he drank in front of you !

  • Re: doctors by julie (Member 10255407) on 22-Mar-2011
    Yeah I remember Dr Levy he was my doctor when I was a child

  • Re: doctors by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 22-Mar-2011
    Yes, I too recall Dr. Levy, and indeed a Dr. Smith at the sugery on Mount Rd. As a youngster, these were our family doctors. I also used to attend this surgery for sunlight treatment after a serious illness. I can also remember most of the shops and proprietors that used to be on this stretch of Mount Rd.

  • Re: doctors by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Anyone remember Dr.Scott and Dr.Reynolds on Clowes Street?
    Dr. Scott had gold=rimmed glasses and was a kind and quiet man who looked after West Gorton;s sick for many many years.
    Anyone remember a Dr. Valdez at all?
    I think he may have had a surgery on Belle Vue Street, West Gorton, but am not sure.
    I remember him coming to see me as a child about 1954 when I lived at 126 Clowes Street, and he... more >>

  • Re: doctors by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hi John, I remember Dr Scott and Dr Reynalds very well at the Clowes St surgery. Dr Scott moved to Wenlock way medical centre with Dr Valdez,I believe there was also a Dr Kay and a Dr Bijral in that practice.
    Dave

  • Re: doctors by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    That's right John, Dr Valdez had a surgery on Belle Vue St near "Dutton's for Buttons" almost facing the phone boxes. We lived in Coventry St round the corner from the surgery, but my doctor was Dr Broman on Hyde Rd near the bottom of Clowes St, before his son took over and moved into the new West Gorton Centre.

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Happy St. Paddy's Day! by Irene ( Dunn ) Truman (Member 10023158) on 17-Mar-2011

Here in the US, St.Patrick's Day is a big deal, everyone is Irish.
So, with my tongue firmly pressed into my cheek, I post the following link.
Enjoy........I hope!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPyl2tOaKxM
  
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bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Mar-2011
What about the longest bus route in the world, Jerusalem to Africa???? the 53? minimax. Was it Queens Rd Cheethamhill to Brookes bar or Old Trafford.Now that was a bus ride worth everypenny of the sixpence you had to pay.lol.   
  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Yes it was it used to go all the way through Rusholme too it was a great ride , it covered all the different nationalities on its route , well woth the sixpence

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 16-Mar-2011
    Yes sorry I'm not trying to offend, but your right I forgot about the Asian part of" The longest route".You could watch the world go by from the bus,nose pressed up against the wndow.

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Mar-2011
    And they always arrived in 3's

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Lol Peter, your right , that long stretch now known as the curry mile ( fabulous ) used to be all shops and pubs .
    Turn right onto Dikenson Rd think the pub there was called the Birch Villa go to the top and you had the market just as you approached Stockport Road.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Dickenson Road rather

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Hey who remebers OCEAN 11 night club later to become Genivives ?

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    gosh my spelling is pants today (Genevieves)

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 16-Mar-2011
    Hi Julie,
    I remember Oceans 11 well, I think it was the first time I had chicken in a basket.I used to go to the Southern Sporting club on Birch Street. The Embassy, the Domino and its sister club the Princess Club. I remember going into the Palm Court at Belle Vue before going to the Domino, when a man asked if he could sit at our table, it was Dave Berry on his way to perform at the Domino an... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Brilliant Dave , I actually never went in when it was oceans 11 but I remember my mother did , I did go in when it was Genevieves then the name changed again later . cant remember it now .
    Do you remember the Talk of the North lol

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    The Ritz (Brilliant)

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    OH and Valentines in Chorlton with FOO FOO Frank Lamar

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    OH and Valentines in Chorlton with FOO FOO Frank Lamar

  • Re: bus routes by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 16-Mar-2011
    Is anybody old enough to remember that
    Genevieve's used to be a roller skating rink and the Southern Sportintg club used to be the Corona picture house?

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    Hi Kate , I just remember it being a dico, easy to get in when not quite 18 lol

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 16-Mar-2011
    OOOOPS pardon me ...... I mean disco

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 16-Mar-2011
    It was easy to get in Genevieves, but not so easy to get out as your feet stuck to the carpet. But having specials like 12p for vodka and 15p for lager when it was about 25p and 28p respectively in the pubs was a great attraction. I can never remember getting home from there.

    There used to be a joint advert in the MEN for Genevieves, Kloisters and Jillys advertising their prices. The beer and l... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Mar-2011
    I remember the Corona well before it became the Southern Sporting Club, it was quite nice till someone rolled a lighted bottle of petrol down to the front from the back, how dangerous was that?
    The place was evacuated and the Fire brigade came and put out the fire on the carpet.
    It took the place a month to replace the carpet, they just cut off the crusty bits and left it.
    Funnily enough, the p... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Mar-2011
    The 53 ran from the junction of Queens Road and Cheetham Hill Road all the way to Henshaw's School for the Blind at Old Trafford.
    What a route that was.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 16-Mar-2011
    The 109 ran from the Bull's Head at Reddish Lane all the way to Piccadilly via Hyde Road, Wellington Street, Gorton Lane, Clowes Street, Hyde Road, Ardwick Green and Downing Street.
    Great journey too.

  • Re: bus routes by Carole Glennon (Member 10249906) on 17-Mar-2011
    The 109 bus route brings back many happy memories of trips from our home in Gorton to the metropolis of M/C city centre! One of the funniest was a trip I took the year after leaving school with an old schoolfriend to a class reunion. She had just passed her test and picked me up in her new motor (parents owned 2 cake shops Slater's on Cambert Lane and opposite Brookhouse flats). Off we tootled ou... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 17-Mar-2011
    GENIVIEVES NAME CHANGED TO THE STING, I WENT THERE THURSDAY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY , I SEEN THE GROUP ODYSSEY THERE FOR ABOUT A FIVER ,

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 17-Mar-2011
    SLATERS CAKE SHOP WAS ON PARKERS ST NEXT TO HUMPHRIES COAL YARD AND THE ONE FACING BROOKHOUSE FLATS WAS BOUGHT OFF SLATERS BY MY NANNA AND THEN SHARPLES BOUGHT IT

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    Quite a busy social life then Danny.
    The Sting I remember now, did it then become a snooker hall , has it been demolished now

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 17-Mar-2011
    Julie I remember the Talk of the North well it is not long since they demolished the old building.
    I remember going to The Carona, The Essoldo, The Conway we lived in C on M for a year and I remember the Kings, Queens, Shaftsbury and the Eagle all on Stockport Road.
    What about the No 33 bus ( Limited Stop) that went all the way to Greave (Romiley) It seemed a million miles away. Never thought I ... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 17-Mar-2011
    I DONT REMEBER IT BECOMING A SNOOKER HALL BUT IS NOW AN ASIAN SUPERMARKET, BUT DO YOU REMEMBER THE SOUTHERN SPORTING CLUB BEING CALLED THE MAYFLOWER

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 17-Mar-2011
    Dave, just by the entrance to the Foresters, there is a stone with an inscription that says YPOL. I heard that was to do with a former disagreement with the then landlord and the resident, and stands for "You P*** Off Landlord". Do you know if that's true?

    I go in there when I am out walking around Werneth Lowe. We used to go regularly when they did cheap steaks on hot griddle plates.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    I just heard that it had become a snooker hall , but a super market thats more fitting.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    **** FASHION ****
    Skinners, monkey boots, Dr Martins I had the cheery red, two tone pants with a razor sharp crease , the black crombi with the lancashire rose on the pocket, how smart was fashion back then

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 17-Mar-2011
    Going back to the 60's teddy jackets and skinny jeans they were lovely

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 17-Mar-2011
    Pete, I lived there mid to late 70's and can't remember that stone, must have been the bitter.
    Lived in Gee Cross for about 10 years, what a great Saturday night walk about visiting the pubs in the village.
    Spent many a happy hour with my kids up and about the Lowe, great place to bring them up.
    Dave

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 18-Mar-2011
    Hi Dave, the pubs are surviving in Gee Cross, although the Queen Adelaide keeps shutting & re-opening. I think doing food is the key. That stone is on the wall of the old farm premises facing the rear entrance to the pub, on your right as you drive in.

    I live in Haughton Green and walk up the Lowe once a week. On some days you can see Mount Snowdon, and with binos it can look as if it's actuall... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 18-Mar-2011
    Back to the subject of bus routes, we used to take bottles back to the shop and if we got threppence, we would catch the 73 bus around Melland Road/Hemsworth Road estate. When it got to the terminus at the Essoldo, we would hide under the seats and get a free ride around again. Kids today wouldn't see any attraction though.

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 18-Mar-2011
    I can remember hiding on the that bus too.
    It used to go all round the houses just to go a few yards further up the road.
    I used to get on it on it Melland road wembley road just to get to levenshulme road only a few yards 5 mins walk if that , but the bus as you said went a route that took ages, it was our entertainment then

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 18-Mar-2011
    off subject a little but does any body remember the kids discos at suttons club , you had to be 13 or older the dj was called ian the fuzz

  • Re: bus routes by DANNY COLEMAN (Member 10221392) on 18-Mar-2011
    also the zooby doo at belle vue

  • Re: bus routes by julie (Member 10255407) on 18-Mar-2011
    Lol I remember the zooby doo, I was a regular at Suttons doing the Tap and ballet classesand the anual show

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 18-Mar-2011
    Gee Cross Friends:
    Dear Gee Crossers - do any of you remember a painters and decorator's shop that was in Gee Cross, Hyde in the 60's and 70's?
    It was owned by a family called ROBINSON.
    They had two daughters, but I cannot remember their names at all.
    My brother and I met them on a caravan site when we were all kids in Penmaenmawr, North Wales.
    Let me know please?
    John.

  • Re: bus routes by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 19-Mar-2011
    Iremember the 109 bus route (we could do with it back)i used to work nights in Salford and i got the the 109 from Deansgate and i used to go upstairs for a smoke and many a time i would fall asleep and wake up at Houldsworth Sq.but after a few weeks the driver used to give me a shout at the Gardeners,i also remember going to the pics at the Corona,Olympia,Essoldo,Cosmo,there was also a picture hou... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Kate Nowell (Member 10137684) on 20-Mar-2011
    Harold,
    I think it was the Savoy!

  • Re: bus routes by harold wood (Member 10209840) on 20-Mar-2011
    Thanks Kate your spot on

  • Re: bus routes by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 21-Mar-2011
    Hi John
    My ex wife was from Gee Cross and I remember one of her friends from school was called Janet Robinson she also lived in Gee Cross Does that ring a bell I think she had a sister.I can't remember a decorator shop in Gee Cross though.
    Dave

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 22-Mar-2011
    My favourite bus route as a young Gortonian was the No. 19. This ran from Droylsden (either Greenside Lane or Droylsden Station via Openshaw,Abbey Hey,Gorton (Mount Rd.),then Levenshulme to West Didsbury. The buses were numbered 19B or 19E depending on whether they ran via Burnage Lane or Errwood Rd, the route reconverging at Green End. I have some old photos of the Crossley or Leyland single deck... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 23-Mar-2011
    For Dave WRIGHT:
    Thanks for getting back with the Gee Cross thing.
    I have spoken to our kid and he believes that one of the sisters was called Margaret and one of them died quite young.
    Will wrack my brains and try to get a definitive answer on the sisters' names.
    Thanks again Dave,
    John.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    I used to catch either the 169 or 170 from outside the Essoldo Cinema on Mount Road each Saturday morning on my way to play school rugby at Parr's Wood, Didsbury.
    Both buses ran through Levenshulme and Burnage and I used to get off at Kingsway, where I got another bus up to Parr's Wood.
    Happy days.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    Remember the buses that ran down Hyde Road to Manchester?
    The 57, 77, 210 and 211.
    Anyone remember any more than those four?

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    Remember the Night Bus Services out of Manchester?
    What a life-saver they were?
    When you think about it, how did taxis make any money?
    The Night Service Buses were a real Godsend.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2011
    Remember when the 210 and 211 down Hyde Road were electric trolley buses, and when the trolley on top used to come off the electric cables?
    The conductors used to pull out long poles with hooks on the end that used to be stored in long tubes under the buses, and which were accessed at the back of the bus underneath the platform.
    They used these long poles to hook the wires back onto the trolleys... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 1-Apr-2011
    Hi John. I have used these bus servises many times in the past, The 210,211 were operated by Manchester Corporation, the 57,77 by Salford Corpoation, and the 57 ran from Thornley Park (near Debdale) to Salford bus station. There was also a No 8. This was a limited stop service from Manchester to Hyde. S.H.M.D also ran a service along Hyde Rd.to the Hyde/Duckinfield area, but I cannot remember the ... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 2-Apr-2011
    When I was at St. Franny's I had a mate called Steve Harney, all he ever wanted to do when he left school was to be a bus driver.Think he achieved this in time,...Kevin Loftus another class mate lived in the pub opposit Hyde Rd bus garage...What was that pub called??? where are they now????

  • Re: bus routes by barrie roberts (Member 10256887) on 2-Apr-2011
    Hi John i think the pub faceing the bus depot was called the Star
    Barrie

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Apr-2011
    Roy/John:
    Great memories Roy, I too remember the No. 19, but for the life of me I cannot remember the route it took, and am happy to join you Roy in the Old Gits Club!!
    Something tells me it went to Levenshulme, but perhaps someone will know mate.
    John, the pub opposite the bus depot on Hyde Road was indeed The Star, and if my memory serves me right, it was faced with yellowish tiles, would tha... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Apr-2011
    Barrie,
    Hope you and Dave are both well mate?
    What would you give to walk through West Gorton today and see it exactly as it was when we were kids?
    I think I would like to have a pint in all the pubs I never went in all those years ago, but not on the same day eh Barrie?
    John and Chris Holmes.

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Thanks for that pub name..... I was never in it.Good job you wasn't relying on me this time I thought it had something to do with a horse !!!!
    Once got the 53 bus in Gorton at night to go to Brookes bar, fell asleep and the bus driver awoke me in the Brookesfied garage? just off Dickenson Rd.what a laugh now,dont know who was more scared.haha.

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Apr-2011
    John If you are referring to the No 19 bus route,I clearly remember it. From Belle Vue, it went via Mount Rd past Spurley Hey and into Levenshulme. At the junction of Cromwell Rd and Stockport Rd, it turned left into Albert Rd. the 19E went next left into Marshall Rd then along Errwood Rd to Green End. The 19B went via Burnage Ln to Green End then Burnage Lane, over Kingsway, Fog Ln, Lapwing Ln to... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 3-Apr-2011
    To John Carleton. That depot would be Birchfields

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 3-Apr-2011
    Roy,
    Brilliant memory about the Number 19 bus, spot on.
    It's funny, I must have ridden it dozens of times yet for the life of me I could not recollect the route it took, thanks again Roy.
    Glad you got the Gorton book, well done.
    Can you imagine how shocked I was to find a photo of my Dad in there when I opened it up?
    He had sadly died several years before and it was a very strange mome... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 3-Apr-2011
    It's a pity we can't post actual pictures on here but here's the next best thing. This link shows "The Star" taken on "Google Street Image" about 2 years back.

    http://bit.ly/heY7yb

    I think the place is still empty now, but what a great detatched house it would make, it will probably get turned into flats though.

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 3-Apr-2011
    Thanks Roy...Well it was a long time ago.it's nowt to do with any mental illness,just cant remember EVERYTHING. ta,haha

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 19-Apr-2011
    Re the 53 bus minimax. What was 'minimax' all about? I was only a kid at the time, but I remember that. Ideas anyone?

  • Re: bus routes by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 20-Apr-2011
    The minimax fare. Short for minimum/maximum fare.In other words a "flat" fare. When introduced it was, I think, 6d.

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 20-Apr-2011
    Thanks Bill. It makes sense on the 53 route as it was so busy, and taking a straight fare saved time for the drivers following the disappreance of conductors.

  • Re: bus routes by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 21-Apr-2011
    Buses which ran along Hyde Road. 33- Chorlton Street to Romiley or Greave (we used to call it the long range 109) 57- Thornley Park to Swinton. 77- Bull's Head Reddish to Swinton via Pendlebury (Both these services jointly operated by Manchester Corporation Transport and Salford City Transport.) 125- Chorlton St to Glossop. 210- Piccadilly to Hyde Gee Cross. I don't remember a 211 service. Where... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by Bill Saxton (Member 10260560) on 21-Apr-2011
    Sorry, the 109 ran from Victoria Station not Piccadilly

  • Re: bus routes by Peter Woodier (Member 10148049) on 21-Apr-2011
    Hi Bill

    The 211 would go to Hattersley estate whereas the 210 was Gee Cross.

  • Re: bus routes by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 21-Apr-2011
    oceans 11, memories, I also used to visit the said den. used to see Les Kellet there often in the crowd.on stage....George Roper,Bernard Manning, you could not go for a pee while they were on cause you got ripped to bits by them. The Grumbleweeds,etc. And yes the Chicken was tasty.I think. ha,ha.

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    Does anyone remember when buses had a driver AND a conductor?
    One abiding memory of mine was when the conductor would get off at certain bust stops and stamp a time-card in a machine.
    I presume these were to ensure buses ran on time - and they probably did!
    They always seemed very well-mannered , both drivers and conductors, not like some of the grumpy old buggers you seem to get on buses these days!

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 26-Apr-2011
    Hello again John. I recall very well the time when there were Drivers and Conductors. At one time the conductor were known as `guards`. Uniforms were quite smart then, and on the epaulettes were a number on one side, and Driver or Guard on the other. I still have an Aunt living in Openshaw, and her ex husband was a bus guard. his name was Bill Sandham, and his driver was Bernard.and distinctly rem... more >>

  • Re: bus routes by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Apr-2011
    Hi mate,
    Great memories.
    My mother was one of the women who transferred into men's jobs during the war and was a "clippie" on the Manchester trams.
    I remember the Night Buses coming out of Manchester along Hyde Road, the crews were great blokes, always having a laugh to keep the passengers quiet, and very respectful, they were very special men.

  • Re: bus routes by Mr. Roy Cox (Member 10242747) on 7-May-2011
    Re all night buses. They opersted along Stockport Rd. as well. After we moved to Levenshulme, my Mum was ill for a while, and a couple of times, I used this service to go to an all night Chemist near St Peters Square for her medication.

  • Re: bus routes by joyce sutton (Member 10260496) on 14-Jun-2011
    That chemist was Boots

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monks by john carlton (Member 10248427) on 10-Mar-2011
Although I went to Bishop Greer school, I did attend St.Franny's for 6mnths. Mr. Tobin was head. my teacher was Mr.McDonald. Question is what haappened to the monks,and when did the school close.? Still no foto's of Bishop Greer people...come on help me here please.   
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St Marks school West Gorton by Ivy Shaw (Member 10258892) on 7-Mar-2011
I was at St Marks until 1948. I have no photos of my time there but recognise some of my friends in Jill Cronin's book on Gorton. My brother Ronnie also went there. My sister Betty(Elizabeth) was a pupil but tragically died aged 11. Sadly I have no photos of her either and would love to hear if anyone else has. I remember Ian McConnel and Walter Carr, Doreen Carr and her sisters who lived in... more >>   
  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    I used to have friends on Greenwood house flats in Longsite in the 70's

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    Still looking for info on the landlady/ landlord of the Three Arrows pub Hyde Road in the 60/70's

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by julie (Member 10255407) on 8-Mar-2011
    The Landlady at that time is no longer with us but her husband possibly Ray Clarke I believe is will be about 75/80 ish , has a daughter Theresa its her I am looking for .... julie

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 9-Mar-2011
    Ivy,
    I was at St Marks with my brother Chris, from 1952 to 1959 (1961 for our kid).
    You mentioned the Beaumont family from William Street?
    Did they have a brother Eddie Beaumont, as I remember his name from school?
    John.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Ivy Shaw (Member 10258892) on 13-Mar-2011
    To John Holmes,member 10245597
    the Beaumont twins lived in Deepdene street, (late Hampden Street)
    They had a cousin Ronnie Hawkes who lived with the twins' sister next to us in William Street (where St Marks was)later called Hoyland Street. According to Jill Cronin and Frank Rhodes book on Gorton the twins had younger brothers called Fred and Frank TORR; there are photos in the book. I don... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 14-Mar-2011
    Ivy,
    Thank you for this information.
    I lived on Clowes Street on its corner with William (Hoyland) Street, 1947-1960.
    I don't recognise the names you mentioned, but I knew only a few families in William Street.
    Will ask our kid Christopher and see what he knows.
    Thanks again Ivy, it's very kind of you.
    John.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Mar-2011
    Did anyone swing on a rope from the lamp-post that stood right outside the school gates on William (Hoyland) Street, opposite Spurgeon Street?
    There was a small steel mesh barrier underneath the street-lamp to stop kids running right out of the school gates and into William Street.
    Spurgeon Street was a designated Play Street in the 1950's and held a street party on the occasion of the Queen's C... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Dave Wright (Member 10256925) on 29-Mar-2011
    Hi John
    I remember the lamp post and the mesh barrier well. I used to climb onto the barrier and jump up to one of the arms sticking out of the lamp post. I then used to swing like a trapeze artist back and forth until one day when the cast iron arm completely snapped off and I ended up landing with my stomach hitting the barrier and creasing me in two, talk about being winded. I just lay on the ... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 29-Mar-2011
    What also sticks in my mind about the Williams St playground was blue painted tubing in one corner with hooks welded to it, I never did see them ever get used for anything in the 7 years I was at the school though.
    There was also 4 concrete steps in the same area leading up to French Windows to a classroom, I can only remember seeing those doors opened on probably 2 occasions.
    There was a big b... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 2-Apr-2011
    There was a corridor with a door at each end that ran from the playground in William Street to the playground in Robert Street, and the corridor was dark, damp and with a wooden plank floor.
    Years before plastic bags were even thought of, hessian sacks were used to bag up and store most things - I am talking about the 1955 era.
    There was a drive by the old Milk Marketing Board to encourage schoo... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 3-Apr-2011
    WOW !! What a memory you've got John.

    It was Sept '60 when I started at St Mark's, I remember looking at that painting of Jesus holding a lantern about to enter a doorway, each morning in assembly. And being convinced it was really the door to St Mark's church, I must have thought back then it was an actual photo they had taken of the event, ha, ha.
    When you were there did they ever use that u... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 4-Apr-2011
    Bennett St pitch

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 4-Apr-2011
    For some reason I can't get the link to work this time, but it's on .....
    images.manchester.gov.uk
    Ref No, m10880

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 5-Apr-2011
    Paul,
    That painting on St Marks' school hall wall was called "The Light of the World" and is quite famous.
    The original hangs in the Manchester Art Gallery I understand.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-Apr-2011
    The two worst teachers of all time? - Mrs Clayton and Mr Platt, and the best ever, the lovely Mrs Butterworth, who taught me the pleasures of the
    English language.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 10-Apr-2011
    I remember Mr Platt being on playground duty in the Infants yard on William St, it must have been around 1962. I don't know what the lad had done but he called him over, told him to bend over and swung at him with a cricket bat. The bat broke leaving just the handle in his hands, he must have known he'd over done it and tried to lighten the situation a bit by saying look what you've done to my bes... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 10-Apr-2011
    Another thing has just come to mind, one of my uncle's who went to Nichol's school in the late 40's. Once told me Mr Platt was teaching there before moving on to St Mark's.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 12-Apr-2011
    Paul,
    Platt was a sadistic bully, and if alive today I hope he reads these things and hangs his head in shame.
    You read of teachers being investigated for abusing school-children years before, well if there was ever a law against pure physical abuse and violence towards children, Platt would be under investigation today - what a disgraceful human being he really was.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember incurring the wrath of Mrs Clayton, who caught me running through the girl's toilets in the William Street side of the playground.
    She actually pulled my short trousers down and smacked my bottom in front of a load of girls.
    I never did it again!
    That would have been about 1956.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 25-Apr-2011
    I remember when the Lord Mayor, Leslie Lever, visited the school around 1957.
    What a fuss was made, you would have thought that Royalty was in town!
    I remember thinking he was a very important person, but who remembers him today? - nobody.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 26-Apr-2011
    John... I remember a time Mrs Clayton stormed into Junior 3 and ordered a new teacher Mr Brown, outside where we kids could hear them having a right argument. Next thing he told her "he didn't expect to be spoken to like that" collected his jacket and briefcase and walked out, leaving her to sort out a teacher less class. From then on J.3 and J.4 were taught together by Mr Platt, this would have b... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 26-Apr-2011
    Paul,
    I always think that both Clayton and Platt were despicable people, who bullied rather than taught, she was just a frustrated old dame and he was a sadist with a sick mind - how they managed to be teachers always baffled me.
    Years after I left, I was a young uniformed Policeman walking along Hyde Road when Platt was walking towards me.
    There was a flicker of recognition in his eyes, but I ... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 26-Apr-2011
    I imagined I had remembered alot about my St Mark's days, but you've just opened up more for me that I'd totaly forgotten. Now you mention it that "Science Room" was used more as an art room for us aswell 10 years later, and the strong smell of Hyancynths being grown in those funny tall vases I'd forgotten untill now, I wonder just how many more years after us that tradition was kept. I remember a... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 27-Apr-2011
    The last part should have read ..... growing up in Forbes St, (would he have been stationed at Gorton Park station) John.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 27-Apr-2011
    Hi Paul,
    It's funny how things jog your memory.
    I remember those coloured water jugs too, and the inkwells with sliding tops, and the excitement when you were lucky enough to be given a new wooden-handled pen with a metal nib at the start of a fresh school year.
    I also remember that half the class did not get them, as you had to show that you could write with a pencil very neatly first.
    We pra... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 29-Apr-2011
    Here's one from right at the back of my brain:
    Whenever we had a geography lesson, and we were looking at Africa, Asia, America or Australia, it was NOT necessary to draw a map of those continents.
    The teacher had a kind of brass-framed roller, some eight inches wide, which was rolled onto a broad ink-pad and then rolled onto a page of our exercise books to reproduce a perfect outline map of tho... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Remember the "bunks" at the back of the school between the church building that had coke stored there for the school's heating system?
    Can anyone remember where the boiler for this heating system was located, it must have been in that same area?
    The caretaker, Ephrahim ARTHURS, was in charge of heating and maintenance, but used to use us kids (obviously with Mrs CLAYTON's permission) to weed the churchyard.

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-May-2011
    Hi John,
    Yes those "Bunks" at the back were along side the small car park area the teachers used, I seem to remember seeing Mr Arthurs going down a set of steps near the bunkers at times, I take it they would have lead to a "Boiler Room."
    I remember a time when helping Mr Arthurs, we were taking stuff into his cellar down more steps in the Williams St playground. I can only remember seeing unde... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 6-May-2011
    Hi Paul,
    It's funny but I remember my brother Christopher telling me the story about Ephrahim ARTHURS having loads of school memorabilia, I wonder what happened to it all?
    I tried to trace old registers years ago, they were all destroyed I was told by the Education Archivist.
    I know Mr ARTHURS died at Hattersley, but have no idea what happened to any family he might have had, they must still be... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Paul Hartley (Member 10226532) on 6-May-2011
    John,
    Did you ever meet Mr Clayton, he seemed really freindly nothing like her! I remember he would come along on day trips to help out, when handing packs of sandwiches or something in the coach. He passed a pack to Mr Platt and said "here you are Vinnie."
    Mrs Clayton heard him and came down on him like a ton of bricks, saying "don't you ever let me hear you call one of my teachers by their C... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 7-May-2011
    Paul,
    Clayton and Platt were the worst kind of bullying teachers, they were snobs who must have looked on us raggedy-arsed kids as an embarrassment to them, and I firmly believe that's what tainted the way they behaved towards children - they would not last five minutes in todays teaching environment.
    Platt was a coward, he was terrified of old lemon-lips but did not have the guts to speak up fo... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 10-May-2011
    Can anyone remember going on a field trip from St Marks' to Heaton Park near Prestwich around 1956?
    I can't really remember what we did there, other than we had some notepaper on which was written a list of things we had to find in the park - but that's about it.
    We were taken there on a Manchester Corporation Transport Department double-decker bus, and we had a packed lunch of a sandwich and or... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by Dora Chadwick (Member 10270772) on 17-Feb-2012
    Hi folks

    My mother Dora Chadwick went to St Marks from ca 1932 until she went to High School. She says she remembers both Mrs. Clayton and Mr. Platt and agrees Platt probably would be arrested these days. Apparently strapped her about 6x on the wrist leaving a big red mark. She told him it didn't hurt". His reply was "oh we will see if it hurts this time then" and so he strapped her again. She ... more >>

  • Re: St Marks school West Gorton by daniel boardman (Member 10292220) on 26-Mar-2014
    my granddad is walter carr who had a sister Doreen carr both lived on William street went to st mark's

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