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As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 23-Jan-2014
Just want to say belated happy new year to one and all. Long live our treasured memories of our childhood home..SOUTHALL. Chris x   
  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Jan-2014
    Happy New Year to you Chris and everyone else. Thank goodness we still have so many treasured memories of our beloved Southall! Long may this lovely site last.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 23-Jan-2014
    I am sure this site will continue, so many lovely people contribute, sharing memories of happy times. Chris x

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    happy new year chris and family from us..yes lovely members here gt site

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    happy new yr Pauline and everyone.from us..gt site

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
    Happy New Year Yvonne. Yes it is a great site with lovely people!

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
    Thanks for your suggestion Fred, and thank you Chris for starting this new thread. I could not think of something to start off.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    birdwatch this weekend 600000.people did last yr..freepost.rspb.or on line.often get rook..magpie robin.blackbird..sometimes goldfinch.wren.woodpecker.long tail tit gt tit..woodpigeon.starling..garden..squirrel ..if fox.wagtail.rare sparrow

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    I was born in Derwent Road, and worked for Westlands
    Until it closed in 1972 and then went to work for Kearley and Tonge in the warehouse that was left of the factory following its closure. Westlands eventually persuaded me to move to Weston Super Mare where I have lived since November 1972. My thoughts always return to Southall as I was a very happy bunny in them days. On my few returns to South... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    gt to hear you tom.my aunt loved working kearley think it closed 1970 ish..last jam ole run..their own coal dock off canal..arrived from Birmingham.barges..we went couple yrs ago Weston.holiday..great helicopter museum spent couple ours there .good museum in town..new pier now.street view free in google goes around southall.2012...fairey was gt hayes southall border many yrs..

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jan-2014
    Tom

    About a year or so ago I put a list up of all the private docks on each side of the canal from Brentford to W Drayton. > > If you can find it, there are loads of interesting old company names, mostly now long forgotten. In the 1950s, I remember going on one of these old covered docks on a punt. It was if it had been abandoned years before. It was wonderful

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    docks firms..good .in google..this..http://gerald-massey.org.uk/Canal/c_chapter_10.htm

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    southall .bulls bridge etc.http://www.londoncanals.co.uk/paddarm/padarm02.html

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jan-2014
    Hi Tom i used to go down Derwent Road on my way to Dormers Wells in the late 50s when did you live there please.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    Hi Dennis I lived in Derwent Road from 1948 until 1972. I attended Dormers and didn't want to leave.
    You could have known my 2 brothers who were a lot older than me, they also went to Dormers Names of Fred and Sid.
    One was made on football the other was made on rugby.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 24-Jan-2014
    I went to Dormers 1956 to 1961. Happy days, didn't want to leave. Cried all the way home! Chris x

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 24-Jan-2014
    We need a few more entries on here to achieve our aim folks...keep it going.

    Chris x

    Ttfn ...all for one and one for all! Stick together folks !

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    Hi Chris can you name any of the teachers at Dormers Wells. I can only remember the Head Mr Ebbott, who retired while I was there and a Mr Grace took over.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    yes photos of ebbut retired.grace had west side office think boys had cane in there...lucky chris and myself girls school had morris headmistress and no cane ...boys teachers..we had east side girls female teachers.until merger 1967.some teachers retired did not want merger

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    in genes reunited photo ebbutt..with football against hayes...sports teacher bellion...1957/8......gosney cup..boys amos Johnson Conway etc...more teachers names under comments memories

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    dormers band 1957..try on trumpet lipscomb guitar.coleman drums..music teacher photo..there

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jan-2014
    There's an easier way of getting rid of "unwelcome postings"

    Just supply a copy of the ad with the mobile phone number (these people only ever use mobiles, with no address) to the Inland Revenue (now called "HMRC" and advise them of the business this guy is running and ensuring that his taxes are up to date on his declared income. I assure you he will never post anything here again

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    photo there of Stephen deacon..carnell creech 1960.F R>dormers.school .john corney...h t ebbutt suppose harry...new building 2012 .old 1934 demolished..new security entrance now Allenby rd..students usually use security swipe cards or finger print entry..glass modern building drama art IT.etc..swim pool.gym..gardening..built out on field..dinner hut at far back went long time ago..woman head now..... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    Yvonne just registered on Genes, can you advise best way to find these items on this site, thanks Tom

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    we have all complained yrs now they changed it all several yrs ago..hard to use now..pity..I put dormers .ebutt etc in google and photos came up....with site type in dormers wells senior school southall.then hope photos come up.john corney put on lots cricket rugby gosney cup..football..by huts on boys low wall photos prefects 1957./8...what yrs are you.............1955 rugby..1957 re gwyther and ... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jan-2014
    I agreed. It was easy to use at first but now so difficult to navigate around the site so tend to give up after a while.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jan-2014
    Can anybody remember where the school dentist used to be? I can remember going to have 4 teeth out but can't remember where. Had gas in those days.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    wrote to them several times.nothing done..they said thought people preferred..but it is useless ...was so good.quick easy use..photos still there bit is there

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    we had gas 50s northcote clinic corner off pub nhs..and over king st church ave corner ..dental.and some more about..on site here few yrs ago..index type dentist and knowhere southall page comes up ..ctl f and highlight dentist word on month mentioned..our site here.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
    Yvonne - I left Northcote Avenue in 1952, so didn't ever know the Clinic opposite the Northcote Arms. I can only remember a leather shop there and that's a bit hazy. Can anyone else remember it?

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
    I used to attend the school dentist, first at North road and then at Featherstone road school. Didn't ever have gas, but was terrified of the fillings. It was like going to the block as far as I was concerned.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jan-2014
    Ahhhh - it must have been the Northcote Clinic as I remember getting the bus with my mum from the Broadway to get home with a great big scarf wrapped round my face.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
    Looking at the latest achievement of this thread by all of us reminds me what Punch (of Punch and Judy) would have said "That's the way to do it!!

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    50s was gas for extraction nhs school clinic ..but nothing for filling....leather gt Pauline...in the corner by the alley..opposite grubhams .was 1950s etc clinic ears eyes throat .teeth...sat on old benches..buy place..scared of old place.and staff..most people did not like it......opposite off to the corner of the pub...opposite along...private dentists may be south rd etc...50s

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    it must have been 2nd half of 50s..clinic northcote ave was..nhs.kids clinic ...1960s people remember it.hated it

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Jan-2014
    Speaking of Punch & Judy, Pauline, do you remember that they sometimes had Punch & Judy and other summertime shows, during the school holidays, on the grass area to the left of the swimming pool in the 'rec'.

    By the way is the pool stil there? I doubt it, by the heck it was cold even in summer.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    Just remembered a few more teachers from Dormers Boys school. Mr Martin (bean head to the kids, he was bald) Mr Selby, Mr Newton, Mr Morgan, Mr Lance, Mr Truckle, Mr Cunnigham, and Mr Marshall, who was supposed to be the brother of the Marshall that made the amplifiers in Hanwell.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jan-2014
    I can't remember seeing any Punch and Judy shows during the summer holidays Fred. Perhaps they were after the war, and I was only 14 when I left SG in 1945.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    fred long time gone the pool

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    what yrs tom at dormers........yes heard of lance..he was probably still there 60s...marshall james amps...dad was southall green road off ran fish chip shop..lots items on james in google party hanwell guitar shop 2012 for him..plaque..ealing music jazz club big crowd there...brother teacher dormers that's interesting....

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    Yvonne I was at Dormers from 1960 to 1965.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    snap.same here...so most photos on genes reunited 50s ..not really 60s

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    1964 school trip to Salzburg train..girls going through piazza we were asked to moved they were filming..our 2 teachers when back found out sound music.filming.so 6th form girls we went to Leicester sq to see it..gt dolby huge sound camera wide screen gt gt gt

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    in google 1960s boys...only terry sayers .Michael smith....http://namesdatabase.com/schools/UK/MI/Southall/Dormers%20Wells%20High%20School

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 24-Jan-2014
    I think we all like tnis site .southall was such a nice place to grow up in .I always thought that I d never move away but when I marriedi moved wiyh my husband to portsmouth thinking that when he came out of the navy we would move back .but by the time thathappened my parent had moved to ashford in kent with the london overspill but I have lovely memories of my childhood and im still in touch wi... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 24-Jan-2014
    Good to see everyone determined to keep this site going through thick and thin. My first memory of a dentist was visiting Parker East, being lifted into a big black chair and a black mask almost covering my face - I was three years old! His surgery was up steep stairs above a shop near Barters shoe shop (think it was Barters).
    Interesting to find another Southallian settled in Weston super Mare... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    best wishes Sheila....Janice...barretts shoe shop right of woolworths....but there were several dentists about.yes black gas mask..extractions

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jan-2014
    Yvonne I used to knock about with Terry Sayers, I think he married one of the Jackson Girls, that lived opposite him in East Ave. I have not heard of him since 1968.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 24-Jan-2014
    I left Dormers Wells 1948,Some Teachers I remember
    Sammy Reeves, Mr Watson, Mr Bladen Mr Lewis, Mr Risborough.Mr Walker.
    Very Happy Days indeed.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 24-Jan-2014
    Teachers from my years at DW 1943/7 were headmaster Mr Ebbut who wote a book on Dalias, Miss Quy,Mrs Gibbs,Walker,Hooper,Hunt,Blaydon,Willis,Gwithers,Lewis,Reeves,Osgood,Risb---- wood work teacher.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    sayers has put himself on that site ...might be yrs ago though.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jan-2014
    ron..photo on friends reunited 1957 of 2 who were of 25 yrs dormers then....h t ebbutt ...and r e gwythers

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Jan-2014
    I was at Dormers Wells 1940-1942/Headmaster Mt Ebbutt, teadchers Mr Gwyther, Mt Hooper(later called up for the RAF),Sammy Reeves, Mt Worley, Messrs Riseborough, Watson-woodwork,Mr Lewis.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
    I remember Mr Ebbut he caned me often, Mr Watson (woodwork) Mr Walker, Mr Lions, Mr Osgood (sports)? Mr Lance (metalwork) Mr Scragg (gardening) if i recall correctly after 56 yrs.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
    I think Mr Watson was called up for R.A.F service to.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
    Hi Janice, I take you are also in weston super mud.
    More teachers being Mr Bright, a Mr Truckle, was woodwork teacher, another who retired while I was there. Also Mrs Johnson who was always cold, even in summer would not open the Windows.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Jan-2014
    Hi Tom Flynn - Have lived in WsM since 1982, moved from Reading. Had no connection with Southall since mother moved away in 1971.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
    Hi Janice, we also have no one left in Southall now.
    All gone, or what remained moved away.
    We live by Priory School off Wandsborough Road.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by thompson (Member 10241148) on 25-Jan-2014
    In the mid 1950's am I correct that MrEbutt was the headmaster of the boys school. We would stand at the edge of the playground and wait for him to come down the drive at speed in his Austin Somerset. Just waiting for the day his car would hit his office wall.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
    yes ebbutt head in photo of him 1957 out back of boys hall..
    ..25 yrs school he had done it says

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Jan-2014
    Denis-youe were right about Mt Watson being called up-he was I think in the RAF

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
    in google...put teachers memories dormers ..up came list from friends reunited..lance deputy.head humber snipe car.gave cane.....Watson hit pupils on foot with his walking stick...by bob cornwall ......walker did maths.................alan walker says .Watson did woodwork instead of slipper hit boys with 2x1 bit..........chin did drama..a teachers panto..by Maxine nelhams nee timberlake.............. more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
    memories there...are of chris and mine yrs......sue short games netball hockey.by sue griggs long legs from northcote ave.....eva jones pe...maynard domest sci..evans mad horrid re....gabby geog was mrs Gabriel....sue says she loved fresh strawberries from boys gardening with icecream.dinner hut .back end of sports back field long path..down in line with Allenby rd...lisa ford says pirates penzanc... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jan-2014
    Mr Walker badly gassed WW1 often of school with chest problems

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Jan-2014
    Good memories of Dormers though was eager to leave and get full time job. My first boyfriend was at Dormers too, Brian Stevens. He was in the football team. Have not been to Southall for many years. My sister lives in Lincolnshire and her family have all spread out. I now live in Vancouver, Canada.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Jan-2014
    I've done this list before. On here a while ago.....but here goes again:

    Dormers wells teachers I recall.

    MISS MORRIS (HEAD). Miss Davis (Welsh lady) history. Mrs Ellis (history). MissOliver (had a limp) English and ran the library in first classroom at top of stairs near to girls cloakroom. Mrs Fischel (science). Mrs Gabriel (geography ). Mrs Bowles games (heard that she passed away... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
    Lynette ref your first boyfriend Brian Stevens did he get called "Charlie" by his friends.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jan-2014
    gt memory chris.ellis hist yes upstairs above evil evans...gray morris both retired at boys merge went to far west wales haverfordwest.both passed elderly..mrs foot of eng and library told me we were with her to her passing...libray 1960ish moved into new building..end by hut of maynard..newlibrary below art above..chambers retired 1961 maths good had her yr....tattersal...lynette and myself had f... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Jan-2014
    Yes Tom, he was called Charlie or Chaz. Did you know him?

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
    Yes Charlie was in my class, and he was the school football captain and I was rugby captain. When he left school I thought he was signed by Crystal Palace. Another one I have not seen since leaving school.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Jan-2014
    Yes, he was signed by them, played in the juniors. We went out together after leaving school and he was still with CP went we split up. Shame how we loose touch with people.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
    Yes Charlie was in my class, and he was the school football captain and I was rugby captain. When he left school I thought he was signed by Crystal Palace. Another one I have not seen since leaving school.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Jan-2014
    I'm not far off 70 and pleased to say I am still in touch with a few special friends from my childhood Southall days. Chris x

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Jan-2014
    Lynette while I was doing my apprenticeship at Westland Helicopter I would look at the team's fielded by CP to see if Charlie made the first team, but I never saw his name, so imagine he either did not make it or had an injury that caused him problems. One Bertie Head was manager at the time.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 25-Jan-2014
    Hello Tom, lived for couple of years Longdown Drive before moving to Nelson Court (near Manor Inn) where lived 27 years, have just moved to Lyefield Road. Southall was quite a good place to be brought up in when we were young and my two brothers and myself have happy memories.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jan-2014
    I have just remembered the name of another teacher at Dormers Wells School-Mr Hunt,He had a clubbed foot and walked with a stick-he had a very short fuse. There was also another teacher,Mr Worley.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jan-2014
    mr Worley on the list teachers at friends reunited..we knew southall Worley family 1890s to saw them again 1970s..my aunt .gdad .both gt friends with them .large family.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 26-Jan-2014
    Tom, I worked for Hestair Sherpa before I left England and I think it closed around 1971. Quite a few of the men that worked there went to Westlands.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Chris (Member 10220786) on 26-Jan-2014
    There was a Linda Worley in my class at Dormers wells. Chris x

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
    unusual surname Worley bet lyn was from family southall green northhyde 1925 all yrs back and around..my family knew many yrs..mr Worley teacher 1940s etc.could be of them.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
    Lynette, when I started as Westlands there was always a board outside listing the jobs going, but by mid 1970 the place was packed. I had never seen so many new faces, so that gave an indication of the work situation in the area. Westland was a bad place to work in 60s and 70s, we had no organised union, and in today's terms we were close to the minimum wage level for skilled men. The Westlands I ... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
    we enjoyed helicopter museum..there good few yrs now gt collection... .Weston super mare holiday 4 yrs ago.westlands etc.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jan-2014
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=weston+super+mare+helicopter+museum+westlands&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Jan-2014
    Hi Lynette just been looking at southallboard 12 and halfway down page 1 is a picture of Charlie at Tudor Road school with the football team. Don Selby is the teacher. He was also our teacher at Dormers, years later I ended up playing cricket with him for Southall tech. Happy days.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 27-Jan-2014
    Hi Tom, would love to see the photo but don't know how to get to Southallboard12. Can you help?
    I'm not familiar with Flickr. Lynette

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
    Hi Lynette all I do is put southallboard12 into Google and it takes you to Flickr click on that and you are in. No doubt Yvonne will correct me if I'm wrong. The picture in question is not Tudor Rd school it's Dormers, as some of the faces on there were at Lady Margaret junior's with me.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    yes tom..some do have trouble getting flickr.last 4 yrs now..pity some don't get it..54 boards.....
    .let us know lyn if you find it or not......photo from friends reunited ..photos schools section......also....

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    people could add their own photos there....let us know if you have photos to add...much appreciated................

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    tom....there is...southall football photo...half down 1......would you click comment ..there....and add type your info ..please...names etc etc...thanks...board12...anyphotos....has comment area...gt to have knowledge there...54 boards of 4 yrs work

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
    Will do Yvonne, there are a couple of Rugby photo,s on there of Southall Tech rugby club, who I played for until I moved to Weston, I'll sit and add some comments to those as well.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
    What I meant to add, was the rugby club went when they built the feeder road to the motorway. Looking at Google earth there is still some of Warren park left. From talking to ex players the Tech could not wait to get rid of us.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    warren farm pk..sports area of near 3 bridges windmill rd....thanks .put comments.photos please thanks

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
    Can somebody please explain how to upload photos onto Flickr. Can you add to already existing Southall boards or do you have to create your own?

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
    The Warren park I played rugby at was behind the Grapes. Down Carliyn way and keep walking. Looking on Google E the main road is about 20 yrs from the old main gate, which appears to still be there.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    can add to any of the 54 boards carol...will try type it...or Pauline fred might help...password and you can add to .put photo.....comments just click comments .and add comment.to photos

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    behind grapes pub uxbridge rd junction yeading lane....yes mike braden talks of sport...brookside fields yeading brook....huge sport fields each decade...down west to spikes bridge

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    many yrs still open fields there..north of grapes pub..behind...down yeading lane..brookside sports huge grass fields...parallel with uxbridge rd going west....big changes sport over decades..hayes lost its sports ground etc...

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    carol you can open your own we can look....or add to southall board...denis..opened his own flickr.southall.................ron cox Australia added to our flickr southall few times..and few did...great.....each board...so board50 password middlesex50...board12 password middlesex12...board 15 password middlesex15...you can add photos if you completely sign in with password.....let me know if we can... more >>

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    hayes yeading....warren football club in google...
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=warren+park+rugby+sports+yeading+hayes+middlesex&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
    Thanks Yvonne, will try.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    to put photos on sign in...ID southallboard12...then password ....type ..Middlesex12.......etc like this for each 54 board..4yrs work..southall and local...

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
    Put one photo on as experiment but have no idea how you get to see it. Don't think it's on Southall board.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    was it board12...will try see it....what was it of.....thanks ....

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Jan-2014
    Picture was of paddling pool building/shop

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    flickr on the screen....right side search...put in southall and some come up there of memory..
    http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=southall

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    lovely nostalgia...also steam trains southall station..http://www.flickr.com/groups/48765925@N00/

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 28-Jan-2014
    Tom and Eve, thanks for you help. Did manage to get on by typing into Google. So nice to see the photos. Lynette

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Jan-2014
    Lynette I have put a couple of names on the football photo, do you recognize any faces.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 28-Jan-2014
    Tom, I new Jeff Wood and I think John Masters might be there. Everyone looks so young.

  • Re: As suggested..new thread... by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jan-2014
    Pauline just found.it......on 1st board...the first one...down only little bit..john masters.and friends....thanks...for comment..tom....Charlie stevens captain..etc..thanks for the info comment...4yrs ago that board was done in the January started flickr..southall...let us know..if you are able to put other info.on photos so we can find read thanks..lovely.

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Our site by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Jan-2014
To all our members, my suggestion for negating people who try to usurp this site by putting their ads in the middle of our dialogue, is to just keep starting new Subjects so that their ads slip further & further down the page & out of view.

We are many, they are few.

  
  • Re: Our site by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jan-2014
    Good idea Fred

  • Re: Our site by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Jan-2014
    Thank you Keith.

    With every new paragraph the message sinks lower & lower.

    Until it disappears alt... more >>

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  • Re: TO RENT by Chris (Member 10220786) on 22-Jan-2014
    Go away!

  • Re: TO RENT by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Jan-2014
    Yes, go away

  • Re: TO RENT by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Jan-2014
    You have no place on here.

  • Re: TO RENT by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Jan-2014
    You have no place on here.

  • Re: TO RENT by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Jan-2014
    Sir this forum does not with to encourage the likes of you to use it as an advertising medium.

    It is for like minded folk of Southall to reminisce about the town and the fond memories that it holds.
    So with the greatest respect, please remove yourself!!

  • Re: TO RENT by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 23-Jan-2014
    I agree 100% with Thompson`s comments, and I am sure many more will agree with you.

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    I also agree with the comments of Thompson and others!

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Southall Laundry by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Jan-2014
Does anyone have any particular memories of Southall Laundry which was up near the The White Swan in Norwood Rd.

I know my cousin Theresa worked there but that is all I know. I do remember my grandmother admonishing her once for wearing a new dress to work saying "the bosses will be thinking they're paying you too much"
  
  • Re: Southall Laundry by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-Jan-2014
    Hi Fred mum used Southall Laundry in the 1950s i remember a van called & dropped clean & took dirty laundry, i can remember her marking the items with indelible ink that would not wash out, funny i still have the little bottle of ink.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 21-Jan-2014
    I do not remember S/l but do remember taking sheets ect to get a bag wash done and walking down Abbots Rd towards the bottom.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 21-Jan-2014
    My mum worked at southall laudrey she folded the clrean sheets as they came off the press , mumwork there from 1958 till 68 , I think my aunt also did a few month there as tea lady , we used to get a discount on the family wash , it was nt a pleasant job very hot and damp I think but I think the girls all had a laugh and made the best of it

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jan-2014
    laundry there..lived local so mike barker was van driver assistant 1960s.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 21-Jan-2014
    I remember laundry on Southall Broadway,on the north side of the road 1930'3,1940's. My mum used it quite a bit. She also had a mangle-occasionally I used to run wet newspapers through it-I was very unpopular!

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 21-Jan-2014
    Best use of the mangle was to get the last bit of the Gibbs SR out of the tube!

  • Re: Southall Laundry by thompson (Member 10241148) on 22-Jan-2014
    Up until I retired,11 years ago then running a Bakery in Stanmore I had a contract with Southall Laundry for workwear.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
    that's marvellous career of yours .and king st southall laundry 11 yrs ago.also

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2014
    I don't remember Southall Laundry but did very occasionally take a bagwash up to the place just along from the group of shops where the Billiard Hall was in Southall High Street. I remember it as I had to give up my job at Car & General Insurance Co. in Ealing at 16 when my mum went away again into convalescence and I looked after the house and did all the washing!

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
    was difficult times for you.and your family.you did so very well.for them all.yes the billiard hall.our male members family spoke of yrs used.broadway up by there.as young men..at Heston .nans family taken off with tb.so 3 orphans left ..was nan she age 3 with 5/7 yr old brothers.mum age 29 and kids died tb.so had to go and live with aunt and all her kids one bed 1890s 1900s..she loved them all ti... more >>

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2014
    Yes, TB was certainly a big killer all those years ago. It was virtually eradicated in this country at one time, but I heard on LBC radio station the other day that it was on the increase in London!

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
    yes have heard news few yrs now .increases...schools 1960s .all had tb jab.worked well..80s 90s and now..heathrow etc..loads coming into country from all parts..bringing tb etc in ...hugely contagious buses etc.crowded contact places .schools over last over 10yrs more.announce when bad contagious disease found at school..huge population increase.travelling in from all parts.world .

  • Re: Southall Laundry by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 22-Jan-2014
    I was one of the first childrnat north road school to have the tb vaccination as my cousin was taken ill with tb and my r
    Father worked on the ambulances so I guess it was thought I was aa high risk .my cousin was in harefield hospital a very long time and also spent months at home but recover and had good health until she passed away last year age 84 .

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
    84 is lovely .so pleased..tb and all the terrible bad illnesses are awful..ambulance yes good idea.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jan-2014
    My mum was also convalescing in Harefield Hospital for some time Sheila, and I remember in the summer my dad took several of us to see her. Yhe patients were outside in the grounds in wooden huts. It was quite beautiful there and I remember there was a haystack not far from the huts. I think it was in the 1940's.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jan-2014
    gt hospital and convales.1st war oz and newz war amputees etc there ,graves of some at harefield church..now many yrs gt heart hospital.car park..village green village shops .grand pub.red kite flies over high hill there .below.lakes harefield valley of chilterns and canal.rural.middx

  • Re: Southall Laundry by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Jan-2014
    Dad had his Hernia operation in Harefield hospital in 1959.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Jan-2014
    To all our members, my suggestion for negating people who try to usurp this site by putting their ads in the middle of our dialogue, is to just keep starting new Subjects so that their ads slip further & further out of view. Remember there are far more of us than him.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by thompson (Member 10241148) on 23-Jan-2014
    Yvonne your comment regarding my career. When I stop to think about that shy nervous young boy from a Southall Council Estate,who eventually was to own two Grade II Listed properties, be on first name terms with Lords, Right Honourable Ladies and Gentlemen, MPs both national and international and leaders of industry.

    Still my wife thinks I should have taken another path in my career,as she bel... more >>

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2014
    baker is wonderful skill..only by norwood green Osterley estate Heston mill..did eliz 1st visit..best wheat best bread she said and was for her .earl jersey had...my dad when not well was at star garter gt queen mary home for services.richmond hill famous gt view bend in thames.wonderful staff .gorgeous building.heritage.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 23-Jan-2014
    My mum worked at the laundry in the early 1940's, believe it was actually in Beverly Road(just off Norwood Road) There used to be an alleyway into Clifton Road where my grandmother lived. I lived with my gran and grandad during those years as my mother worked very long hours, she used to start at 7.30am and work 6 days a week.

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jan-2014
    hard work jean...near off ..white swan pub area...norwood rd goes down to norwood green...some from your road worked haigh picture frame factory the old mill by canal..

  • Re: Southall Laundry by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Jan-2014
    Thompson - It was really lovely to read the account of your career and what achievements you made in your life. As you say, a shy, nervous young boy from a Southall Council Estate, and Northcote Avenue at that. I am certain that many other people who lived in our beloved Southall were also great achievers, and I wish you a long happy retirement.

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CHILDREN'S HOMES by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Jan-2014
Does anybody know children's homes near Southall in 1930s. Two little girl's were sent to a home when their mother died, one aged 2 and one aged 4. Trying to find out where they might have been sent to.   
  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    law some time now says kids themselves can find out their info...through local authorities info..usually through agency..kidshome.info .if adopted or fostered..social services.councils..records they themselves allowed to ask.

  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Jan-2014
    Thanks Yvonne - just found out it was in Chiswick.

  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    gt

  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    lma north of st pauls London..archive for London greater London 1930 onwards mcc childrens homes info records..free entry open daily..waiting list delay they reply to you .invite you to search their indexes records.open evening times in google.
    http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cats/118/13240.htm

  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=13240&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=

  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Jan-2014
    That's great Yvonne, thanks for your help.

  • Re: CHILDREN'S HOMES by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    ok

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PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 6-Jan-2014
Does anybody know whether there is a street plan of the prefabs on the Golflinks Estate? Road names I think that were kept were Redcroft Road, Fleming Road and others, but Martin Way which ran through the middle I think disappeared.   
  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    there is facebook.golf links estate.easy to join.. all those lived there all yrs prefabs etc..barry Raymond gave council plan of prefabs sheet.image shows units..parades etc...fleming rd..some photos of estate also prefabs and ..flats maisonettes became..3 blocks demolished nov 2013 .refurbish plan now..gradually

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    8th parade ran .east near Greenford rd..2rows back from fleming rd all across....dormers way.off to west .walk into the green.. houses Darwin close etc..little row shops at green..old peoples home eventide built on mound kids played telford rd .faraday rd...out onto dormers wells lane..ealing broadway library local hist of southall would have maps info.email write or bus car to

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    aug 2013 photo of redcroft rd in google..golflinks est.with Gleneagles tower in distance behind.seems martin way gone.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/map/property/southall/redcroft-road/?pn=1&view_type=map

    shows the streetview map clear all the roads left now.most gone.your redcroft clear if you were at back or up near top fleming..glen eagles tower block east side of it at Greenford rd..not much going down middle grass lawns and sections of maisonettes..1947 1st person to go in new prefab was in gazette.1970... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    3 courts demolish now .st davids gone.cromer going..dormers rise off to west..to the north side fleming rd Osborne rd of prefabs.rd still there..baird along back..out onto the green longridge lane goes all along to far corner..that hollow and brick wall with co op and greengrocer and sweet shop right east corner..cohn was our gp greenford rd.by traffic lights white hart pub gone now flats

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    seen the council plan map of prefabs 1961..martin way .running east from Greenford rd.to west as you say through middle across ways..down from fleming rd on west side here is whitecote rd..running down from fleming rd..so parallel with Greenford rd..Haldane rd.so running from north to south.like whitecote on the other side..

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jan-2014
    the prefabs green around middle area there on plan map 1961kids play tree ..with springvale rd at east side..midcroft rd .coming down from fleming rd..to it.. past 8th7th 6th 5th parades prefabs..chicken wire fences around square back gardens shed for coal.2 bedrooms separate toilet bathroom.fitted little metal cupboards kitchen.flip up table.tiny covered fire living room 2 bedrooms,gas fridge

  • Re: PREFABS by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 7-Jan-2014
    The prefabs were a good place for a child to grow up. I lived in Osborne Road where there were 8 prefabs in the caul de sac. I knew everyone who lived there, the Websters next door, Jimmy Williams and Alan Davis a couple of doors down. Also, friends were the Kimmins who lived on Flemming road. My dad and I moved into St Andrews Tower when it was first built and I stayed till 1970. My sister lived ... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    best wishes to your sister say hi.perhaps she went to dormers..eventide elderly home..at telford faraday rd.just left by mound
    as you go out to dormers wells lane many yrs there is now ..my aunt worked quite few yrs they loved her she loved them.there...mt pleasant hospital for elderly by north rd off Allendale 60s 70s..now .flats new built there

  • Re: PREFABS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jan-2014
    I think there was a lot to be said for prefabs a friend of dads lived in one at the top of Lady Marg. Rd it always seemed warm & comfortable & had the basic modcons we have today, they would certainly help with to days housing problems in a more modern form. I cant say anyone i knew who lived in them complained.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    yes people liked many came from bad conditions and they were new neat....no brick.cavity wall.roofing loft.british standard house build though..just asbestos sheets screwed...one tiny little miniature fire cover glass door coal..in living room...snow ice rain wind.not the warm of proper brick.good hse..wish population not grown so massive then not so much need housing.hospitals gps school roads tr... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 7-Jan-2014
    My aunt and uncle lived in Fleming road, Fred and Win Robinson. I really enjoyed visiting as a child as the pre-fabs had a homely feeling. Also the wood burners sent out lots of heat in winter.
    Having visited the flat they were given for relocation, I understand why they went to Australia.

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
    Happy childhood in the prefabs, a bit cold in the winter but had everything you could need, a fridge in those days was a luxury. Lots of cupboards and storage space - an odd cupboard I remember in one of the bedrooms that somehow pulled down at the front, cant remember exactly how. Pull down wooden table in the kitchen. Domed shed in the back garden. Have pictures taken outside. The Kimmins i... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
    Where was Panhard Place?

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
    1951 Osborne Road - Knight, Williams, Coxon, Scanes, Webster, White, Torrance, Wheelwright.

  • Re: PREFABS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jan-2014
    Hi Carol why dont you post your prefab pics on Fickr.

  • Re: PREFABS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jan-2014
    Yvonne i think something is going to have to be done in the future about population growth even if people don agree with it.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    after the horse has bolted though denis..so many yrs..stop control before it happened.small land compared to others land.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    enlarge plan of southall board.your corner there......I have copied road names for you.above here comment for you... it is plan east north corner..lucky to get that from barry...council plan..yes pull down table useful used daily gas fridge..cold asbestos screwed sheets exterior walls only..facebook..at least 6 there who lived in prefabs.pre 1970.ealing library would have more prefab rds info for ... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    1951 Osborne prefabs...the 1957 around. around those yrs dormers was our chris pudney was there.several of us classes there through yrs..1954 infants opened dormers.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    penhard place still there..out on the green .outer bit west from prefabs..at longridge lane .side..now 3 bedroom semi detached house for sale penhard £270000..my friend dormers lived just by there 1950s.60s with gran..diane squires.ballet danced many yrs.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    carol..... Lynnette while is lynn ware..she lived Osborne 1951 went to new infant school ..and seniors dormers.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    carol..on friends reunited site going for over 10 yrs now..is photo of Gerald kimmins 197/8 southall tech .school..she may be on there..lots dormers girls on there all yrs all classes photos memories,,.redcroft 2..was just by 8th parade .row of 6/8 prefabs .on the plan..says it..bunny park was good.quick easy path .tube bridge .lawns hill to animals café st mary church high spire.cricket pavilion... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    1957/8

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
    Yvonne, thanks. I am still in contact with Lynne Kimmins, remember her brother Gerald. He took photos of us in their garden.

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
    As I remember it, I think Redcroft Road ran from one end to the other of the estate. Each end were two brick walls with entrance in middle (pedestrians) and then an oval shaped flower tub (no flowers). Denis, I dont know how to post pictures and they dont show that much of the prefabs (just scruffy gardens haaa) one shows shed in back.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    in google map redcroft...shows it north to south.the length prefabs estate west side..to prefab parades.which.came east from it..walk the path.along 8th parade 7th parade..of front doors or prefabs...redcroft along side so along Greenford rd..length..go across to path to bunny pk golf links cricket pavilion.brent hanwell lodge.good photo of Gerald.with his class mates 1957/8

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jan-2014
    Haldane rd in google map.still there runs down the middle from .fleming rd...by Greenford rd edge of redcroft is where they built 1st tower bloke Gleneagles..then by there along by redcroft built high tower st Andrews.flats views from top

  • Re: PREFABS by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 7-Jan-2014
    The Kimmins on Flemming road did have cousins around the corner. No one of them was Lyn. Visited the Kimmins in Australia when I was there on holiday, Pat went out there first, then Mr and Mrs Kimmins followed. Christine married my first husbands cousin but after they divorced she went to Australia too. My sister lived on Faraday road in a house that the Bartons lived. There were lots of boys in t... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Jan-2014
    Yes, Pat Kimmins was cousin - Lynne was Gwendalynne

  • Re: PREFABS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Jan-2014
    Yes I lived at 7 Dormers Rise and as child had a great time there until I'd say about 1961 when we moved. Such great playing areas & of course all the mischief you could get up to on the golf links. The ranger Mon-Fri was Popey from memory but on the weekends it was my Dad and you had to be very careful not to be spotted by him. "Did I see you near the lake on the 9th hole?" "No Dad that wasn't me... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    best wishes to your dad..the tube bridge.over the river brent,boles bridge was a good sight as we went up the hill to bunny pk seeing the church spire high on the hill ahead

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    Pauline....bankside etc.....http://www.geolocation.ws/v/W/File:Southall%20Gasometer%20from%20the%20Merrick%20Road%20-%20geograph.org.uk%20-%201165247.jpg/-/en

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
    When were the prefabs first built? When I used to wheel our old pram with some of my brothers and sisters in it across the Greenford road, having walked through Dormers Wells from Northcote Avenue, it was just the Golf Links and lots of grass and trees. Not a prefab in sight. In fact, I can't remember ever having seen any at all. We used to call it Hanwell Park in those days, and spent many happy ... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jan-2014
    Weren't they built just after the war? We moved there in 1949 and moved out when they were demolished which I think was 1964.

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
    That would have probably been right Carol, as I had to leave school in 1945, aged 14, to earn my keep and wouldn't have been taking the children to Hanwell Park then.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    1947 gazette had 1st couple move in...my aunt uncle moved in just around after then.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    yes carol around 1964..yes sure 64/5 .think photos of flattened in google 1969/70.new tower gone up flats Gleneagles
    lots prefabs ..and local areas .of them were built by german /Italian.prisoners war..some stayed on England after war.prefabs says for men with families.. coming home from war..part of the idea.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    Pauline please....1950s.Edmunds store southall broadway ..do you know where abouts have tried in index or google.....Edwards old shop yr 1900 in old photo up by butlers but old photo...thanks..

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    got note in google Edmonds ltd southall and Edmonds ltd Feltham.1977.think they are closing then

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    Edmonds along north side broadway along towards butlers was it....got google.hounslow high st .had Edmonds 3 floors with lift then later became escalator.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    meant south side......Edmonds along towards butlers..1950..was it Edmonds store.shops .herbert rd is along there on south side.junction.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    think that's where it was..Edmonds chain of stores they had the cash tube fly across top of shop to cashier cash .and change came back on wire tube.where money was put in..for customer

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
    I don't ever remember seeing a store called Edmonds up near Butlers Yvonne. The only large store was Clifford Evans, but that was next to a Ladies Hairdressers and Lloyd's Bank on the corner of Herbert Road.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    thanks Pauline 1977 closing in google says .Edmonds chain store southall..Feltham..and Hounslow had big one....thanks.1950 I think....got messon 1950 sweet shop etc..along there by bank..thanks..Edmonds had overhead tube cash change money by tube .wizz across.chain stores.of edmonds.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    got it...southall broadway south side.1950 ish.yrs...Clifford evans taken over by Edmonds.store drapers..wool upstairs...zoom change cash tubes fell into disuse...acton high st in google Clifford evans was taken over by Edmonds store..Hounslow high st 50s 60s 70s had 3 story Edmonds store

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jan-2014
    Good piece of detective work!

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    thanks yes gt...to get lists of all decades..where changes of broadway..would be so nice...a few decades along...south side north side..acton was taken over by them so sure southall was..people remember it being along same place in 1950s..messon sweet shop next to it..one person lived above macfisheries along there 1950

  • Re: PREFABS by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jan-2014
    You've only got to look at close up, aerial views of Southall today, such as google earth etc, to see if proof were ever needed, that we now have a major problem, and local councils are frightened to deal with it because it will be deemed to be discrimination

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jan-2014
    photo of the golf links estate flats etc.all women kids babies out with banners insisting on safety a crossing they needed..got it so success..petition.parade.protest.campaign

  • Re: PREFABS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Jan-2014
    We lived at 23 Dormers Rise, happy memories as we had an allotment to the rear of the three prefabs backing onto the golf course. Left when I was 9 to move into 127 Northcote Ave.

    God it was cold in the winter there, just a small Rayburn type Fire in the lounge, yes it was great to have a Gas fired fridge in the kitchen. and the fold down table.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    yes gt use of fold table gas fridge ..yes chair each side tiny little coal fire..rayburn thanks...nice separate toilet bathroom.2 bedroom.no brick eng standard contruct insulation walls just asbestos screw ..ice snow rain cold of winter no loft etc...dormers rise rd still there..the rd..refurbish work going on estate now...loads money being spent..yes allotments..

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
    Everyone who lived in the prefabs seems to have happy childhood memories. I know I had lots of freedom to roam over the golf links, the bunny park etc. Just looking through photos I have and can see the spire of the church in background. Brick wall entrance used to be meeting place for us kids, playing ball games, hopscotch, skipping - the road was playground, not many cars to bother about then... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2014
    Hi Thompson - You must have lived on the same side as we did, Number 153 Northcote Avenue, about 13 houses away! We moved out in 1952. What years did you live there and who were your neighbours?

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    yes slope and wall at little row shops in dip hollow at faraday rd towards telford rd..no cars 1950s 60s..wages just payed rent food etc..bike.walk...spire still looks gt ahead as go from tube boles bridge over river brent up to bunny pk..more animals..zoo.and indoor bit creatures... monkeys etc..new maze in google 2000 yr.there with same old.icecream café..yes kids walked to school and played sa... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    1964 ours had moved out yes defo demolish yrs..photo is of 6 kids playing on that centre greens area middle of prefabs estate middle area of all the blocks.prefabs large greens grass area.photo 1949 ish 1950s if.of kids by .large trunk large tree.if kids names are guessed at known..think it is on fb also the photo.kids 3to 6 yr old s .boys girls.nice neat kids as was usual so often those yrs..hug... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 9-Jan-2014
    Pauline we move into Northcote in about !953 I moved out in the early 1960's when I got married but mum dad and Flo Rowbottom my nan stayed untill the late 1960's. "Ruffy" died in 1958/59.

    The Hilliers were our neighbours, I worked on a Saturday with two of the daughters at thier uncles bakery in Osterley.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    pre 1958 if ruffy used northcote pub most..did....my uncles.aunts gdad knew rowbottom.he came in our hse couple times .after they had chatted as usual at table hour at the northcote pub......nan died 1961..saloon bar ..men used front public bar..lounge gt ballroom grand piano along the back.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    bakery....there was one..top west side northcote ave broadway 1930s...high walls in photos.the walls were hot to touch from bakery hot cooking ovens baking..1900s it was there old photos shows the wall huge letters advert huge at the huge brick wall there..says 1907 mr crouch..won prizes baking..wedding cakes etc..did turog health brown bread prize 1907 yrs..think they were german and got interned... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
    Was Flo Rowbottom any relation to Arthur Rowbottom. He married my aunt? They had two children, Arthur and Valerie.

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
    They lived in West Avenue

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    when he comes back he put.on site mths ago that .they were of west ave and Greenford ave as well yes..mine used to be friends of theirs at local pub.northcote
    arms

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
    I just found out that Arthur Ernest Rowbottom who married my aunt was the brother of George Henry Rowbottom who married Florence (Flo)

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2014
    Yes Thompson - I remember the Hilliers. They were a nice family and my brother David was very friendly with Cecil Hillier. In fact they used to go out fishing, and on my brother's 15th birthday in 1951, they caught a massive Pike at Poyle Pitts, on the other side of Colnbrook, weighing 25 lbs 5 ounces and 35 inches long. They had to get the Bailiff to weigh it and record it officially. They entere... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jan-2014
    Yes, I remember the long wall which ran alongside the bakery at the top of Northcote Avenue in the 1930's. I was only a little girl, and when I used to go past the baker's wall with my mum, I would feel it, and it was always hot in the evening and you could hear the crickets chirping, and the lovely smell of bread baking. On the opposite side of the road was Mrs Pocock's fruit and vegetable stall ... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    yes billiards..in streetview .can see they kept architecture point at roof etc..of the original structure 1900s 1912 electric theatre cinema..can smell the bread bakers you are always such lovely read......good find carol..bert or whatever nicknames shortening of Christian names..jack roach and rowbottom were the friends at northcote pub 1950s and yrs before..was of his that was chimney sweep at 7... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jan-2014
    Yvonne you might know this - do you know what number was Dr Cohn's house. I see on google street view that the houses are still there but the rest of that area has changed so much. Just past the pub was a parade of shops - I used to take bottles back to the off licence and at the post office got savings stamps - you know the ones with Prince Charles and Princess Ann on.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    yes parade shops still there..post office..stone mason on green there for Greenford cemetery up windmill lane...bp garage there...white hart demolished several yrs ago..long yrs derelict land..then yr ago block flats built there...cohn..along that same row houses ..half way along....so walk from prefabs to traffic lights..and row of 1920s 30s built houses he was half way along.but he and family li... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    fb golf links estate site would know what number he was there 70s 80s also...

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    our doctors have our original doc papers in our brown envelopes..you are allowed to see read your own..childhood says cohn..and would be address of him there...docs pass medical notes on lifetime as you move..ealing local hist library would know his house number post office directory they have and also elect role there..going way back.street view don't suppose still doc there estate now has its ow... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jan-2014
    little post office book..add 1950s 60s.little bits in the little books..premium bond..pence life insurance on kids and adults til they mature..penny back on bottle buy arrowroot biscuit...2 p back on corona bottle lorry crates came around..pop drinks fizz.

  • Re: PREFABS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 10-Jan-2014
    I always knew Ruffy's brother as Daniel, he was a slaughter, and an RSPCA inspector. Yes lived in west ave. The Rowbottoms had two sisters Alice & Rose.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    ruffy Daniel .must be ones friends of my family west ave.

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
    My Aunt Ame lived at No. 17 West Avenue and before that in Hammmond Road. When first married they lived in Tudor Road. She was the one who had the problem of getting me home when I didn't get the school bus home from Tudor Road school when I was about 5 - decided to go home with a friend instead.

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
    Yvonne - thanks for the info. Those brown envelopes with doctors notes - do they include details about your birth as well?

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
    Across the road from the White Hart and to the left of the parade of shops, I'm sure there used to be a rubbish tip or landfill. When we had been playing over the golf links and bunny park, we sometimes came back that way and ended up walking alongside this smelly tip to get back onto the Greenford Road. We then used to go to the sweet shop opposite and get sweets or jubbly. Anybody else rememb... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by penny (Member 10265839) on 10-Jan-2014
    Are the Rowbottoms mentioned any relation to Roy Rowbottom, born 1946/7 who moved to almost the end house of Brent Road/Western Road opposite the lovely little cafe where the 105 bus drivers used to go for refreshments? He attended Southall Grammar School in the early 60s.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    jubbly yes 50s 60s...up Greenford rd east right side..huge many yrs and now ...council refuse..tip..so north of golflinks fields east side...on streetview..brown envelope are the ones we saw filed .nurse got our of file gave him...they are passed on to each doc as you move.....cards say doc name address.yrs.you attended .measles mumps..hospital tonsils..he sends you for..dates.....BIRTH some were ... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    west ave built 1928...7/9 top west right side.weedon..........23.on west side..your 17 ame.......16...east side towards top..14boyland widow with 2/3 spinster daughters 40s 50s 60s...18 was elsie bob cornell 30s 40s 50s 60s son daughter married live away...dan rowbottom west ave think around middle area near east ave junction..end west ave spikes pk..friends reunited has under places section.south... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    carol heard that they bused kids...prefab etc estate.1947 onwards yrs new.but.dormers primary opened sept 1954 ..so before bus to tudor rd..then change schools.later..north rd primary busy school oldest southall school 1850 opened

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
    Penny, yes Roy Rowbottom was connected to same family.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    roy on facebook index members..southall grammar class 1963

  • Re: PREFABS by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 10-Jan-2014
    Yes Carol, I remember that. Quite a long walk back to the prefabs.

  • Re: PREFABS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Jan-2014
    My memories of the walk to the golf links and beyond to Hanwell Church go back to the 30's and 40's. From Dormers wells lane there was an access to the fields/links actoss to the MillPond.Then across the Greenford Road thence via the links to Hanwell Church

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 10-Jan-2014
    Michael - do you remember there used to be a playground of sorts (swings I think) down by the Hanwell Viaduct close to the river. My memories of this are vague, I think my sister took me when I was very young. They then moved the playground to a fenced off area where we used to go when I was older. Did anybody else try to cross the bridge underneath swinging hand over hand?

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    millpond often fishing aec sports club used it for fishing...viaduct gt high walk with rolling down green hill there .scouts war memorial .was old bandstand there Connolly dell...footpath going down under through viaduct out to uxbridge rd..footpath by brent river going through there and river going under brent river ballastrade.bridge at uxbridge rd.hanwell border

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jan-2014
    they have got the modern playarea fenced off also..rubber ground for safety .youtube film in google of.those baby toddler square seat swings. roundabout slide climb frame.at.bunny pk viaduct areas..so much chat of wigwam.or witches hat seen modern one built it is nice

  • Re: PREFABS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Jan-2014
    There are pictures of bunny park area on my Flicker site d.sexton428.

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
    Great pictures Denis. I went back to the Bunny Park in the 90s but stupidly didn't take any photos. I remember the new bridge being built over the river after the old brick built one collapsed I think. Part of the old bridge still stayed in the river for years after. Is it still there?

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    only remember the tube structure bridge over the brent river on the path walk from prefabs .the after the bridge stroll up the green hill to café and bunny park rabbits in cages.small monkeys in cage..going out of the lych gate bunny park path out onto the view to viaduct down below with brent river running out to uxbridge rd.and hanwell stone bridge .buses going over with its ballastrade

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    boles bridge metal tube design bridge still there.
    http://www.mazefind.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/ohra.pl?content_id=1226580660

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
    Yvonne, really interesting reading about the boundary stones. Never knew it was called Boles Bridge. Would be interesting to know what the bridge looked like before the new one. Obviously the crossing goes back a long way. Wish now that I had been more interested in local history as a child. I do remember looking around the headstones by the church and reading them so there must have been som... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
    Pictures of the Bunny Park on here http://www.flickr.com/photos/damiancorbet/9571774030/

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
    Picture of Boles Bridge and Viaduct flooding pre 1919 on e-bay for sale

  • Re: PREFABS by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Jan-2014
    Couple of other photos show that Boles Bridge was a wooden structure in early 1900s.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    thanks for flickr and photos..yes.ancient carved boundary stone near boles bridge ..hanwell meets norwood southall of ancient dormans wells manor house estate...1950s walked tube bridge boles bridge...is it different one 1990s when you went...we went back once but car around by church .so did not see memory of boles bridge..fine construction cast iron tubes.have they changed it carol.thanks best wishes x

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    yes got photos our southall board7 and 4 ..wood bridge of yr 1900 with spire church in background..1920s30s new bridge replacement by tube engineering company .cast iron metal bridge we all crossed 1950s etc,,with spire ahead....thnk it is still same tube bridge now strong..snow photos at boles.bowles bulls bridge names..yes romans had crossing of river brent around...old brick sides of tube caste... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/riverbrent-thebrent-flows-south-and.html
    2008 snow toboggan snowballs photo still same boles tube bridge as we had 1950s
    http://hanwell-labour.blogspot.co.uk/2007/02/winter-wonderland-in-brent-river-valley_17.html
    2013 still same tube boles bridge as we used 1950s to bunny pk..
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/brighton/9473056312/sizes/k/in/photostream/

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    info.bridge brent river hanwell etc...Greenford Perivale sticketon bridge...boles bridge,.,,hanwell ballastrade bridge...gallows bridge...and boundary stones...http://www.mazefind.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/ohra.pl?content_id=1226580660

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jan-2014
    wood bridge photo..1900s ..1930 ish around yrs....tubewrights ltd company tube bridge metal.Newport Monmouth .large letters in it .photos .in flickr by misty..boles bridge bunny pk...still there strong..churchfields hanwell photos etc in google..6th arch medieval of old uxbridge rd bridge hanwel..yrs ish 1900s new tram..need strengthen.so ballastrade new arch es..stone bridge widen built.for new i... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jan-2014
    Carol-yes I too have vague memories of the playground.Happy Days

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    denis....your home guard...did you hear of southall bill odriscoll born bred top lady marg rd..lived opposite taylor Woodrow..walked to school 1947 Greenford primary..his dad home guard killed 1943 nov..walter...6th middx bttn.home guard he would love to know more of them..where could he find out.about anything.....walter was doing duty at factory wen he was killed .buried south ealing cemetery .

  • Re: PREFABS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jan-2014
    Thanks Yvonne trying to find Home Guard records are very difficult but he mite be in a better position to find out more as his father was a casualty. He could try the M.O.D personnel records, public records office Kew, Also local records. Death certificate or the parish register where he is buried, Home Guard records are very sketch... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jan-2014
    yes just his battalion he was interested in.and gereal info home guard...homeguard his dad was lived top lady marg rd opposite taylor Woodrow at Ruislip rd..north side..1943 died at factory he was on duty at..buried south ealing cemetery..thought he might have been same battalion as yours....he was 39 yrs old...Osterley pk annual reinactment might know or who to get to..as local .men they all were... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 12-Jan-2014
    Penny yes Roy Rowbottom is my cousin I was with him Friday 10th January, as it was Les Rowbottom's funeral; who was his dad and my uncle. Les's wife Phyllis is still alive but frail.
    Les & Phil lived in Clarence St and moved to Brent Rd.

  • Re: PREFABS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 12-Jan-2014
    Us Thompsons and Rowbottoms were members of Southall Swimming Club. Doll Thompson was President of both the swimming club and the boxing section of the Actonian Club. Members of the swimming club attended Les's Funeral. Plus Three of Roy's Four wives.

  • Re: PREFABS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jan-2014

    Thanks Yvonne Osterley Pk. good idea, as far as i know dad was in the 10 Middx battalion & also did fire watching duties when he worked for Landis & Gyr on the Western Ave at Acton

  • Re: PREFABS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 13-Jan-2014
    Hi Thompon

    I used to bowl (tenpin) with Roy Rowbottm but more so his sister Maureen who was either in my year or one year below at Southall Grammar. Very happy days.

  • Re: PREFABS by penny (Member 10265839) on 13-Jan-2014
    Hi Fred,
    When were you at Southall Grammar? I was there from 1958 - 1963 but although I knew Roy, your name doesn't ring a bell. Do you remember the brothers Keith and Barrie Mead who were into football in a big way? Can't find any trace of either of them.

  • Re: PREFABS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 13-Jan-2014
    Hi Fred, Roy was an only child.
    Did Play at the bowl with young Tony Mercer, his dad Tony senior from the Black & White Minstrels. the bowling team was also called that.

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jan-2014
    My goodness, that takes me back, Tony Mercer in the "Black & White Minstrel" show. He was the baritone, and the show ran for 20 years. It was wonderful to watch and listen to that music. Happy days.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jan-2014
    we watched all on tv ..good singalong..music song..gt..dance..emi records cousin worked we had the LPs...took my aunt to Victoria theatre London..full hse gt show of them..gt.amazing live show....fred told us of sad ..mercer death..it was interesting to read fred a yr or so ago...king st area southall..son and mercer senior..fred chatted .they lived and fred knew them..marvellous..swan pub many p... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 13-Jan-2014
    Penny, I was at Southall Grammar from 1961-1966 so a bit younger than you but I also bowled with Tony Mercer and went to his house next to the White Swan a few times expecially for parties whilst Tony senior and Tony's Mum were away.

    As to Maureen (Rowbottom?) I must have got her (& Roy) mixed up as siblings because although I remember Roy and he was a couple of years older than me, I thought i... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jan-2014
    Ah ha I've remembered it was Dave Drury who lived in Park Ave and had the sister Maureen. Dave was a mate of Roy whereas though we were friendly with them Maureen was more our age.

  • Re: PREFABS by penny (Member 10265839) on 14-Jan-2014
    Mick West was in my class for a couple if years. I believe he was friends with Mick Hinge.

  • Re: PREFABS by Chris (Member 10220786) on 14-Jan-2014
    I remember David Dury and Maureen. They lived in Oswald Road in the 1950s. They had older brother Brian. They are related to my husband..their mother Violet was my husbands cousin. Chris x

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2014
    photo graham Maureen west on friends reunited site group friends 1963 at southall grammar.

  • Re: PREFABS by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 14-Jan-2014
    Hi there Fred, Graham here, who used to work behind the machines at the bowling alley.
    Now I may stand corrected, but I think we used to have a Dave Drury work with us down the back.
    Remember Graham West in the leagues, I used to bowl in a couple there, and also at Hounslow.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jan-2014
    its back on..pm off..sent email to them

  • Re: PREFABS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jan-2014
    Yes Graham, I remember Dave worked down the back with you, in what I think we called "The Engineers Room" but I could be wrong about that term. I think it was 12 lanes downstairs & 12 lanes upstairs.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jan-2014
    wondered where today..remembered Feltham near heathrow bowling quite few yrs now.there
    https://www.tenpin.co.uk/our-company/site-map/
    £1.50

  • Re: PREFABS by Graham Laidlaw (Member 10263605) on 15-Jan-2014
    Yes Fred, you are right, it was split level, 12 on each.
    "Engineers Room" it was everything really, needed somewhere to get away from the noise, and to brew up of course. When there were leagues on, on both floors, one of us used to stay upstairs to fix any problems quicker, otherwise we used to stay in the room, as most of the leagues were downstairs.
    Normally in the evening there would only b... more >>

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Jan-2014
    Just received an e-mail from Florida this morning and their temperature was 42 degrees Farenheit (5.5 Centigrade). That's a bit cold for Florida! What's it like where you are?

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2014
    Australia having 42 etc temp..andy murray did well with Australia tennis even though temperature terrible.

  • Re: PREFABS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Jan-2014
    In Melbourne we had 44 deg Centigrade for most of this week or 111.2 deg Farenheit, thankfully today (Saturday) is only going to be 23c.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jan-2014
    44 even more..here tv last few days here said 42 melbourne

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2014
    its back.over night etc off...nestle hayes 1913.staff move out summer 2014..gazette..transfer to tutbury staffs.they have derbys.they have york..and Croydon..and Carlyle over many yrs.propose 700 homes on 38 acre site...white art deco front grand tower entrance.lots windows photo nestle hayes

  • Re: PREFABS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jan-2014
    When I worked at EMI in Hayes and then lived there for two years after we were married in the 50's, it was lovely to catch the smell of coffee from the Nestles factory which could be seen clearly from the road. I think we could smell chocolate sometimes, but it was mostly the coffee.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2014
    think smelt sweets too sugar treacle smell...tall narrow chimneys they had at hayes.

  • Re: PREFABS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jan-2014
    lots as usual saw midwife new series last night..tv saw flannelette sheets.several trying to find them to buy today..my aunt west ave put them through mangle twice then on high tall line thick to dry .nice though.50s 60s etc.

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Arrow Hart by ben miller (Member 10290646) on 29-Dec-2013
Does anybody know where the old Arrow Hart factory was located? My parents worked there and relocated to Plymouth when the firm moved in 1972. Both are dead now and I have no family left in Southall/London to ask.

Which road? What became of the site etc.

Thanks for any pointers or help.

Ben
  
  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    arrow electric switches southall green.often on this site .13 yrs of these daily comments..and short page has arrow memories.and friends reunited has group..place as workplace section there..if that helps.think they talked of going plymouth

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    graham of southall grammar talks of it in google hart and move to Plymouth..http://uk.linkedin.com/in/grahamcowperthwaite

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    arrow hart patent.plastics.1976 Plymouth seems 1971 southall then move...http://www.patents.com/us-4067529.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    with cooper..http://www.admiredelectroniccomponents.com/line-card/additional-manufacturers/arrow-hart.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    in google quite bit.http://www.bing.com/search?q=arrow+hart&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    carol woods denise blake worked there 1964 to 8..said arrow electric switches moved to Plymouth.on our site here back they spoke..frith photos memories site in google .people who worked there also..and friends reunited site has members who worked there site in google.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    in google says mum worked there...it was near aeradio offices.which was northhyde by western rd canal bridge junction northhyde rd going west to hayes..junction southall lane going south to cranford..opposite wood yard.1960s..1960 new aeradio built by there for BA..http://mikecurley.simoncjwalker.net/mjc/Papsy-Worked/worked.htm

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    several worked there 60s.it is bit further along from aeradio.but near.it is west.at the junction scotts rd and brent rd.opposite crown cork huge high long office block..all gone now..but on street view in google you can see rds..mr suffield was manager..usa company..several bits in google..junction pub and Scotsman pub the 2 local ones.north area off canal.southall green.lots terraced row houses ... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    old buses in google...weekdays split division.105 brent rd peak time down to arrow electric switches workplace.105 bus..http://www.londonbuses.co.uk/routes/105.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    in google rush hr bus 105 1968 to 1973 went arrow switches factory.rush hr.brent rd junction scotts rd..http://www.eplates.info/100s.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    1949 usa..expired 1992..has southall had paris etc.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    http://www.trademarkia.com/ah-arrow-hart-71583462.html

    http://industrialelectricsstore.com/arrow-hart/

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    lots photos of what is there now in google..also street view..brent park industrial estate brent rd junction scott rd here.post code ub2 5lj...warehouses factory area.freight etc..http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/international-freight-16336927.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Dec-2013
    says 5 acre site factory office.opened in 1961.it came from hanger lane...http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/river-crane-southall-gas-works.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 30-Dec-2013
    Arrow Switches was off Rubastic Road at the junction of Brent Road and Scotts Road. I lived nearly opposite at 138 Brent Road. My Aunt worked there for a few years after moving from the Crown Cork factory which was the other side of the junction. I worked there as a student one Summer, putting pieces of metal through a micrometer to find a flawed batch and then pushing a trolley around the factory... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
    yes rubastic in the map link above//junction there..now the international freight estate .huge area all there..west end of brent rd.nice photos in google..of the trading estate.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by ben miller (Member 10290646) on 30-Dec-2013
    I really must apologise for not responding sooner, especially as you've put so much effort into helping me with my request. Yesterday's windy weather took its toll on several fence panels around my garden so I didn't have time to check for replies.

    Looking at the map of Rubastic/Brent/Scott roads would it be the big empty space? I was 7 or so when I last went to see my father at work and obviou... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
    yes it was by rubastic junction...bulls bridge canal junction to the left south...rail bridge to the right.across to hayes station from southall station..gas holder 300 ft still there gas closed 1973..show my street in google is good..Britain from the air 1940.in google.is good rubastic blue tags there showing.factories .........and in google 1940 map of southall.shows.all streets etc.canal etc

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
    in google frith photos memories site..southall..has dave chapman worked there to 1972...

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
    woods blake here worked there 60s 70..http://www.knowhere.co.uk/town/user_board/messages/2388

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
    frith in google...mum of Russell wileman worked there went to Plymouth with it...several went to Plymouth.,,http://www.francisfrith.com/southall/memories/growing-up-in-southall_115121/#utmcsr=bing.com&utmcmd=referral&utmccn=bing.com

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Dec-2013
    2nd click at this site showed more..junction rubastic scotts rd brent rd..is sections of freight warehouses etc.trading estate...griffin centre says..says.pallet ..says Neptune wholesale..big main entrance from main rd bulls bridge off south that way leads to m4 motorway..the entrance is trident way..going through to brent rd..2012 street view july cameras...http://www.cylex-uk.co.uk/map/internati... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 31-Dec-2013
    I have a couple of photographs taken from our bedroom window looking across to what was Ticklers Yard and with the Kearley and Tonge "tower" in the background (the confectionary section). The yard used to be filled with barrels of fruit pulp for the jam manufacture. Across the road from our house was a ditch and a metal spiked fence. We used to pick blackberries there and explore the large air rai... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
    yes bill Britain from air 1929 1930s 1940 photos in google..southall..gd..in google..would like see your 2 photos ticklers kearly my nan aunt worked there through yrs..........denis has flickr photoshis site.. we have southallboard flickr photos in google....if you ever put your 2 photos be gt to see ..somehow

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
    1928 tickler kearly from above etc etc...http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw021900

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
    HAPPY NEW YR 2014 ALL....best wishes to all...kearly olde jam ole deliver coal so many yrs from birmingham warwicks.40 yr commem run..they do vintage runs..in memory.dock into factory southall from canal.jam biscuits.1970 last delivery close..one of last grand union....http://issuu.com/waterwaysassoc/docs/waterways_summer_2010
    article southall there

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Dec-2013
    I would like to echo Yvonnes greeting-Happy New Tear to you all.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Dec-2013
    happy new yr 2014 mike..very best wishes to you..and everybody

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 31-Dec-2013
    May I wish everyone a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    phyl you and your family friends happy new yr 2014..very best wishes xx

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 1-Jan-2014
    Best wishes to all for 2014. The north end of Brent Road ran between Ticklers (later Arrow Switches) on the left and Crown Cork on the right. At the end it turned into a track that crossed a branch railway line that went into Ticklers sheds. On the right was a shed full of resin and we could collect lumps from beneath the door. I think that the resin was used for manufacturing resin paper (for in... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    lovely bill have written that out happy new yr you and all....my nan worked ticklers aunt oldejam ole kearly brent rd..dock from canal coal came in for boiling jam...biscuits etc..last run 190 they do memorial runs .info in google..warwicks Birmingham..last runs southall 1970 grand union...famous..

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 1-Jan-2014
    I hope that this works. see: www.cotswold.org/southall.html

    How I wish that I had taken more photographs of the things that have now changed so much.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Jan-2014
    What brilliant pictures they are Bill. When would they have been taken? Happy new year to all.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jan-2014
    What am I doing wrong Bill as I can't get your pictures after copying your www.cotswold.org/southall.html

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    THANKYOU BILL LOVELY ONES..Pauline...with the dot...www.cotswold.org/southall.html
    I just put all that in google it came up..happy new yr Pauline carol mike.denis bill.phyl.mike all.all.keith .chris.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    precious photos bill well done...canal bridge.which one is that yrs perhaps 1950.photos...inside gas gt..2 of mine worked to close 1970...ticklers nan kearly my aunt..friends worked crown cork.car gt bill indicator running board black type..l plate car gt..138 bent rd Dudley gt gardens windows ...in google flickr southallboard....54 of 200 each ..over 3yrs collection.some of your areas interest...... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    so arrow switch took over tickers place your photo..good back gardens greenhouses..pub junction still open fence there big tree still there..phyl lives along said..timber yard there in your photo.there many yrs gone now..cranford we have strolled often good..schools gd western rd .feathers..my gdad .uncle etc went feathers.boys sch....over 3yrs collection in google..flickr.southall board

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    click..me..and albums.bill...gt your photography..and west England.ealing broadway local history library for southall etc...gt photos mounted.collected .and all local history books in his cabinet electoral rolls..maps all yrs..etc..dr oates librarian 15 yrs there..gt knowledge he has written lots books.talks given there of local.hist...projector.film photo.talks..speakers.invited local hist as wel... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jan-2014
    I've highlighted exactly what Bill and you have put in, and there is nothing coming up for the Southall one. Perhaps it's my machine!

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    would they be mainly 1950..50s..couple 1960..bill.top lock gd..last yr hanwell flight etc loads money new oak gates etc work done...new street view being done grand union.tow path camera..will be in google...old boys entrance photo Featherstone in flickr oin google..demolish..primary was turned into..old people centre..so new feathers primary now western rd by brent rd,with 1920 war names carved m... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    I typed it in google..it comes up ok.with all the dots stops correct..

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    I typed it in address bar top left...or typed it all in google it came up.ok

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jan-2014
    Brilliant! It came up after typing it in top address bar, but wouldn't do it when I typed it in Google. Thanks for that Yvonne. The pictures are so clear.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Jan-2014
    Happy new year to all on Southall message board.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jan-2014
    good Pauline.and.denis happy new yr

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-Jan-2014
    I am glad the web page works. I should have said that clicking on the small images will reveal larger images. The Western Road picture with Hills paper shop also has next door Mullenger's fish shop. Then there was a chemists shop. On the opposite side of Western Road was Fowler's bakery with stables behind for the horse drawn delivery carts. Opposite to Hills across Featherstone Road was a barber... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jan-2014
    lovely thanks well known mullinger fish.yes hair still hair..saw hills..the canal bridge which one is it..good interiors gas..some more in google under gas coal coke.southall being the largest.featherstone new modern high school now..infants juniors old peoples centre in same preserved shape architecture....so arrow went in the site of old ticklers.show my street is good july2012 camera street vie... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 3-Jan-2014
    Re: my photos. I am still trying to remember which canal bridge I photographed. One of the gasworks photos was taken when I visited the gasworks as a schoolboy. The other was amongst my Dad's stuff. Not sure how I chose what to photograph and of course it was long before the convenience of digital cameras. Somewhere among my other photos may be some other Southall images. I have also bought a cou... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jan-2014
    thanks will watch for your scan..1950 some photos if some 1960...could be grass going up from top lock to 3 bridges..fence either side.....of bridge........if windmill lane..gt photos extremely grateful..........gt schoolboy go in gas..when they built it 1930 german design biggest in Europe.300 ft high 6 old pence go top..went to new southallnorwood hospital.closing now in gazette

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jan-2014
    1940s 50s derelict orphan barracks south east corner western rd canal bridge..southall lane left east side..1850 poor kids hundreds catholic st marys.ordinance house lodge priests lived by canal.farm orchard they had ..but lots complaints to today.everywhere..huge 14 ft war memorial 80 boys died 3 with special brave medals..smashed gone by Ba 1952..demolished site old parade ground barracks was se... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Jan-2014
    Yvonne when is Southall cottage hospital closing.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    in recent gazettes..everybody waiting to see..planning in google of ealing council.also southall libraru to go in dominion arts centre.for computers design library...will let you know

  • Re: Arrow Hart by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Jan-2014
    Thanks Yvonne a bit more of Southall gone.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    warrens farm..in google..more news this week..qpr taking for training ground..goes east there to trumpers crossing..south bit near 3 bridges.lots in google

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Jan-2014
    Yes, you're right about Southall Cottage Hospital Dennis. I remember it with great affection when my dad spent his last few weeks of his life in there. The Irish nurses who were on the night shift were very caring, and let me sleep in a bed next to my father the night before he died. I also remember Len Goddard talking about the time when he was in there as a patient and his wife was nursing there at the time!

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    memories.yours..len his wife.good...see in google lots of planning .hayes too .slow gradual.lots of plans.now getting more so

  • Re: Arrow Hart by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Jan-2014
    Pauline i remember going there when i cut my leg open 1955 but had to go to King Edwards in Ealing instead.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    now its ealing big
    general hosp opposite viaduct ot Hillingdon hosp

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Jan-2014
    I thought the big new Ealing Hospital which replaced Edward V11 Hospital was built in the former grounds of St Bernard's Hospital.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    yes opposite viaduct..duel carriageway uxbridge rd there ..big entrance to hospital..old water trough in the middle of road grass middle..some parts st bernards preserved heritage couple building bits and chapel..the rest is housing estate to the west right..called Osterley view and chivy close..streetview is good..left east part is high tower wards of new ealing hospital..over back old site land ... more >>

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    buses turn into modern hospital at entrance of uxbridge rd from viaduct rail area..buses go into hospital grounds for turn around.

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jan-2014
    they have to go to hillingdon hosp .or..new ealing hospital

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Jan-2014
    Thanks for that Yvonne. Just had a quick look at Show my street Never seen so many cars!!

  • Re: Arrow Hart by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jan-2014
    yes lots cars rush hour even more so.best wishes.big redbuses go in the general hospital.

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Southall & Norwood Book by Carol (Member 10254505) on 14-Dec-2013
Does anybody know where to obtain a copy of the book "Southall and Norwood - A Portrait in Old Picture Postcards" by William J. Drinkwater, published 1992.   
  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 15-Dec-2013
    Copies don't seem to appear very often, I picked mine up on ebay a couple of years ago, there was a copy sold back in October 2013 which went for £37, seems the price has gone up some since I got mine as I paid under £10. Amazon list it but it's out of stock.
    All I can suggest is to monitor the two to see if a copy turns up, but be prepared for a shock when it comes to price.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Carol (Member 10254505) on 15-Dec-2013
    Thanks Colin. My aunt has a copy so I will have to tell her how valuable it could be and make sure she doesn't just throw it away. There is another book I would like to obtain about the Royal Engineers and hydrogeology during WW2 but it's over £100 and not prepared to pay that much.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
    in google..british library .Euston...have their copy..to see...if dr oates ealing local history libray have their copy.in reference only books...120 pages .isbn 10 .1857700155..s b publications..

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
    golf links est refurbish 2013/4..st david block been demolished..photos..Lytham .and comer block to be demolished..picture how to be in google..http://www.mulalley.co.uk/profiles/Golf%20Links%20Estate.pdf

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
    old advert le grand in google...hydraulic engineering ,hd office 100 bunhill row London ec1.westminster branch 7 queen st London sw,,registered turnstiles

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
    mr meads book.....territorial.old drill hall built 1901..middx yeomanry .,then middx anti aircraft,searchlight co....re..to 1937..then ..due to move to hayes bridge more room....http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/page13.html

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Carol (Member 10254505) on 16-Dec-2013
    Thanks for your help Yvonne

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Dec-2013
    ok happy xmas new yr carol

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Dec-2013
    in google 2 articles..council...planning demolish...plans for penny sangam.day clinic...southall norwood hospital....2013 nov dec in google...http://www.pam.ealing.gov.uk/portal/servlets/MajorContentiousDevelopmentservlet

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Dec-2013
    million pennies 1935,,£4000,,southall green ,ward windows over manor hse grounds,.clinic penny sangam.up by ..old workingmens club chesnut..corner..lord mayor London opened 1935.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Dec-2013
    3 days out its back....sent couple emails to them....happy xmas to all.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Dec-2013
    I wonder if they are trying to tell us something.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Dec-2013
    it goes off 3 days several times now...not used much...facebook quite few yrs has grown amazingly ..all ages enjoy it..with posts comments ..pictures photos at most..friendsreunited went to facebk.etc..happy xmas denis..I did send them several emails again.to say.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Dec-2013
    Thanks Yvonne all the best to you Toni, Just wondering.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Dec-2013
    thanks.will tell him.....yes 11 yrs here southall knowhere..it is old structure website if they cannot manage .facebook.modern new...all towns nostalgia all ages..lots pictures daily .comments etc.friends .admin.keep it nice..seem to have advert.etc money to go.on and on..it seems..huge concern that they are..free.most people 6yrs .1yr .there.and more

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Dec-2013
    I suppose if they pull the plug we will all have to arrange to go to facebook en mass.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Dec-2013
    I won't go to any Southall Facebook, but where I live now, Arundel Facebook is very active but Arundel Knowhere guide gets no new postings these days. Similarly, other local knowhere guides such as Hanworth, Harefield, Hayes, Perivale, Ealing etc and very many more have all had their regulars stop posting new material in the last three years. I think it is mostly because of Yvonne's wonderful... more >>

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Dec-2013
    best wishes keith happy new yr to you all...facebook of 5 admin..site..closed site join..monitored..people of 40s 50s 60s..memories nostalgia.with loads photos..friends .school neighbours work..local people..who chat..are the sites..uxbridge etc...Heston etc...southall...Greenford....hanwell has cuckoo....they have all been going 6 yrs or so..members in the last 6mths ..of a year enjoy....iver slo... more >>

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Dec-2013
    I think you are right there Kieth its Yvonne who keeps use going.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Dec-2013
    I would like to add my wholehearted support to what Keith and Denis heve said about Yvonnes sterling work on this site.Happy New Year to you all.

  • Re: Southall & Norwood Book by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Dec-2013
    happy new yr mike.very best wishes to everybody.lovely to chat of southall and surrounds..recent huge contribution.by local middx London folk.1950s and yrs around.of sunday tea.gkids came around.white table cloth.celery in glass..winkle stall barrow man..so black head flipped off with pin.cockles whelks eels.shrimp.watercress mustard cress bread butter..madera cake.libbies tin fruit jelly.10/20yrs... more >>

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Durdans Field by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 14-Dec-2013
Dennis, you mentioned a ditch that used to run across Durdans Field where the school now stands, I've had a look along the towpath at that point and there is a section where it appears a spur may have run off at sometime, now filled in with concrete. The only dock on that side of the canal that I am aware of was further south where the Scout centre in Cranleigh Gardens is now located next to Spike... more >>   
  • Re: Durdans Field by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Dec-2013
    Thanks for the reply Colin, the ditch i mention was just over the fences of the semis along Lady Marg. Road & ran parallel to the houses & Lady Margaret Road. The only dock i know of is Durdans dock across Durdans field on the other side of the canal this is the dock i have mention before with the steam crane & corrugated iron cab

  • Re: Durdans Field by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Dec-2013
    There was a branch of the canal that went to the Quaker Oats factory and beyond

  • Re: Durdans Field by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Dec-2013
    Thats right Michael it is still there, i remember pulling barges up & down it thinking how strong we where that was in the mid 1950s.

  • Re: Durdans Field by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2013
    zeta and Pauline...along by there .pre 1950..spoke of..zeta took photo from spikes bridge looking north in 1950..zeta and others spoke.of the old spur old dock.area..by municipal ground spikes bridge.they went up played around area of old.sunken old barge.muddy................yrs 1900..several using the areas along tow path to spurs old docks.for the work.along there areas way back in time...thank... more >>

  • Re: Durdans Field by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Dec-2013
    Thanks Denis.During WW2 dad and I used to go fishing there on his days off. In those days one could access the side opposite the towpath as there was just scrubland between the canal and the path that ran past AEC.

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A Very Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Dec-2013
As it's gradually getting nearer, I would just like to wish everyone on this wonderful Southall Knowhere site of ours a Very Happy Christmas, and a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year. Love from Pauline.   
  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2013
    happy Christmas to you and everybody too..thankyou.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 10-Dec-2013
    A very merry Xmas & a happy new year to all the the old Southallians, Denis

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Dec-2013
    I would like to echo these wonderful greetings-long live KnowhereSouthall

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Dec-2013
    A Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to all our readers (and writers).

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Dec-2013
    seasons greetings to those near and to all members far away..several in Australia and new Zealand.and everywhere.xx

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Chris (Member 10220786) on 10-Dec-2013
    A very happy Christmas to everyone who contributes to our BRILLIANT site.. I am so glad I found Knowhere Southall. Been on so many trips down Memory Lane. Take care everyone, keep safe and keep warm. Chris xxx

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Dec-2013
    Thanks for that Chris but down here in Australia keeping warm is exactly what we are trying not to do ha ha. Best regards, Freddie Gough

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
    11..12..13..today year 2013.great setting sun for a week but couple days fog now

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2013
    So you won't be celebrating Christmas day on the beach then Fred?

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
    Happy Christmas to everyone. Can anybody tell me where the Drill Hall was in Southall please - and is it still there?

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
    drill hall in more modern times hayes bridge uxbridge rd north side..east corner of bridge..large new architecture built cost fortune..still in use..in google are photos..TA......old drill hall Featherstone rd southall green..we put on page here few month ago the date it moved it is in google....

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
    it was not big enough ground space old place at Featherstone rd..so..1950s etc..later yrs new build hayes bridge by canal..google says parachute etc...dennis saw plane there of parachute.training..1950s 60...happy xmas carol..huge photos of new build in google .interiors exterior..cost hugemoney...in modern times

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 11-Dec-2013
    A Very MERRY CHRISTMAS to all you SOUTHALLIANS,
    it is Great to see so many are taking part in this Fantastic Site.Long may it Survive.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
    Thanks for replies. I was just interested in the one in Featherstone Road at the start of WW2. I sent for my dad's army records. He was in the Royal Engineers in the Well Boring Section. Found a record where it says in Feb 1939 it was decided that two well boring sections would be formed, the 2nd by Le Grand Sutcliffe & Gel (a firm of Artesian Well Engineers based in Southall) and based at the... more >>

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
    yes Sutcliffe there southall green..did well boring..drill hall used to be Featherstone rd southall green west side...

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
    Whereabouts was it in Featherstone Road - what building is there now? Thanks.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
    Yes I know it was The Green. I used to work there and my dad worked there most of his life, before the war up until he died.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Dec-2013
    Thanks for the question Pauline but no I will not be celebrating Christmas Day on the beach, never have & never will, it wouldn't seem right.

    Besides which you would be surprised at how many cold Christmas Days we've had here in Melbourne since I arrived in 1966

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2013
    1970 1st jan I was Sydney they said I had brought english weather.in oz accent my cousin had acquired in 12/13 yrs .working and living there...visit was nice just bit of unseasonal weather for my month

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 11-Dec-2013
    Carol, the Drill Hall is still there, it is at the junction of Featherstone Road and Dudley Road, it is now a Community Centre for one the Asian groups in Southall. The building has been altered somewhat, but it is still basically the same as when it was built. If you look on Google maps and use Street View you will be able to see it, it still has the date 1901 on the front of it.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Carol (Member 10254505) on 11-Dec-2013
    Thanks a lot Colin. I'll have a look.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Dec-2013
    1966 Fred - That rings a bell as I remember we won the World Football Cup against West Germany! I know that we all went wild indoors!

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Dec-2013
    Fortunately Pauline I did not leave UK till 31st Aug 1966 & so was happily able to see our World Cup win in extra time.

    I'd had a bet on England at Full Time so when they actually won in Extra Time I did not get paid.

    I remember everyone was drinking "World Cup Willie" pale ale (Watneys if I'm not mistaken)that night despite studiously avoiding it in the months before.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
    wasmy husbands favourite1970ish watneys bitter..but no a little bit off youngs London brew bitter..nice youngs opposite st pauls on the river for a stroll...he did not like heavy rich strong smell fullers..brewery Hogarth roundabout Chiswick..most are open to the public..we went to one once interesting to see all about it...he always talks of 1966 world cup.bobby moore etc..glad you saw it .august... more >>

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2013
    The bit that I will always remember in that 1966 World Cup match at Wembley with all the drama that went on, was Nobby Stiles running around the pitch after England had won, minus his false teeth!

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Carol (Member 10254505) on 12-Dec-2013
    I was living in Wembley at the time and we could hear the noise from the stadium.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
    denis Pauline have spoke of emi hayes.blyth rd contracts signed start build early 2014..old vinyl building .areas complex..132 flats642 homes.offices cinema.restaurants bars .4000jobs..£250million.gatefold.wilmott Dixon.purplexed.cathedral group..ahead of new cross rail hayes southall stations to London.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
    images in google

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Dec-2013
    looks like big changes in Hayes, thanks Yvonne.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Dec-2013
    yes takes while..in gazette again..southall also..recession.holds back money..but plans paper long time there ..up to crossrail 2015/6 ,through the stations..advances.growth

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2013
    http://beta.tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/new-bus-for-london
    lovely photos local London areas.... new .bus now..increasing..

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Dec-2013
    A far cry from the A.E.C , Leylands & Routemasters of the 1950/60s but more in keeping with the traditional London bus than the bendy bus.

  • Re: A Very Happy Christmas by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Dec-2013
    yes more like it than the long bendy bus..

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White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Tony Freer (Member 10259893) on 6-Dec-2013
Would anyone have information on the whereabouts of Don Short today.
I am looking for photographs and information regarding the ART WOOD COMBO who played at the White Hart. Don was also their manager at one time.
Thanks, Tony
Tony Freer
Woodstock, Ontar... more >>
  
  • Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2013
    art wood at the famous ealing club..jazz etc..famous many yrs going back long time..still there ..active...ealing broadway ealing w5..they organised celebration for famous james marshall.yr ago.....art here...in google...http://www.ealing-club.com/an-a-z-of-ealing-rock/

  • Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Dec-2013
    art wood died 2006...etc...here...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/art-wood-423177.html

    in google

  • Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Artwoods

  • Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
    art of west drayton age 69 prostate cancer..other members local hayes etc...emi hayes huge changes going on there..their archive...uxbridge local history library for whole area .now borough Hillingdon..high st uxbridge...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Wood

  • Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Tony Freer (Member 10259893) on 7-Dec-2013
    Thank you for the replies. I know about Art and the Artwoods, but trying to locate details of Don Short and possible photographs of the Artwoods at the White Hart or other CLUB locations. Thanks, Tony

  • Re: White Hart - Don Short - Albermarle Jazz Club by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
    art but not don in google...try the ..link gave you...local..famous music ealing.club 1950s onwards to day.....they may have..also try.local items also at ealing library .London w5..for borough ealing southall....

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The LCS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-Dec-2013
I passed a vehicle the other day tht just had the number plate "LCS" and it immediately made me think of the to Co-op. What are peoples memories of the Co-op? I believe they even had a LCS Funeral division.   
  • Re: The LCS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Dec-2013
    I remember having to wait for ages to be served in the store in Southall Broadway when my mother gave me a list of items she wanted. Lots of things had to be weighed in different coloured bags, and then it had to be all added up. Sometimes we would be given some broken biscuits from a tub in the shop. There was always a very long queue at the back of the shop when it was dividend day. What a long ... more >>

  • Re: The LCS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Dec-2013
    My mothers co-op number was 270883. During WW2 we were registered with co-op butchers for our meat ration.(We were registerd with Williams,South Road, for groceries.

  • Re: The LCS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-Dec-2013
    Yes I'd forgotten the tokens, very tinny they were and would probably blow away with a strong wind, very light metal.

  • Re: The LCS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Dec-2013
    and Williams tokens also metal shape..think branch also hanwell high st

  • Re: The LCS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Dec-2013
    Michael, whereabouts was the Co-op Butcher? I can't place it for the life of me.

  • Re: The LCS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Dec-2013
    Pauline, Co-op butchers were on the same side as the grocers, but further up the street in the Hayes direction.

  • Re: The LCS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Dec-2013
    I had an e-mail from my niece telling me that she was thinking about me when she was hanging her cotton sheets on the line I bought for her wedding 39 years ago. She said they were wearing a bit thin now, but said "How's that for quality". I bought them from the Co-op. They were the heavy cotton ones!

  • Re: The LCS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Dec-2013
    that's coincidence..my aunt bought us 2 blankets wedding..several yrs now deteriorated badly but lasted so long..we bought nice new one .now but wow cost now ha..

  • Re: The LCS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Dec-2013
    just done our 2 cinemas..ealing broadway abc forum.supposed to be new one there this yr..why was lido one called lido..kids green swings there but 1928 new built says lido cinema photo here.west ealing junction uxbridge rd....http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=ealido001.htm

  • Re: The LCS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Dec-2013
    Talking about quality, my 88 year old Mum still uses blankets that she got during the war from my Uncle Johnnie who was in the Canadaian Navy and was in UK on leave. The blankets have 'US Navy' still printed on them.

  • Re: The LCS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 5-Dec-2013
    I see I've spelt Canadian wrongly sorry.

  • Re: The LCS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Dec-2013
    Fred the blankets your mum still has are collectors items now.

  • Re: The LCS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 5-Dec-2013
    I suppose they are Dennis. The family treasures them anyway.

  • Re: The LCS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Dec-2013
    recent time....new oak lock gates etc put in at bentford lock..huge vehicles gt flickr photos in google....http://www.flickr.com/photos/viktor_web_studios/sets/72157626942350881/show/

  • Re: The LCS by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 7-Dec-2013
    I remember the co-op in Southall when I had my first trip home in 1970, I told Mum I remembered her co-op number 245598 and she said they don't used them anymore, I was so disappointed thinking how clever I was to remember it, also I used to go to the co-op butcher on a Saturday to collect the roast for Sunday's dinner and it used to cost around 13 shillings and sometimes that included sausages.

  • Re: The LCS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
    that would have been long flight 1970...I left heathrow 1970 January..new York.los angeles..Fiji..Sydney..my cousin.went 1958 so visited for month..went Canberra Melbourne....came home Darwin.hong kong Thailand to London..did circle ticket..long27 hrs and storm at Fiji so we stopped stayed over night 24 hrs los angeles because the pilot had not landed at Fiji before....whole thing of loose day da... more >>

  • Re: The LCS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Dec-2013
    Zeta-when I used to pick up our week-end joint and other items during WW2, the cost was~2/6d

  • Re: The LCS by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 7-Dec-2013
    Michael you wouldn't get a sausage for that price now, I would have been getting the meat around 1954-55, I remember it was the time when coffee shops were just coming into vogue and I would walk back towards a shop near, I think it was Saxton Rd, not sure of that now, and meet my friends for a coffee.

  • Re: The LCS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2013
    zeta.best wishes...saxon rd is along there..parade of shops etc..northcote ave broadway to saxon rd..Viking rd.lancaster rd.tudor rd ...ha...we had all the history..dane rd..norman ave..all together there..ha..on the north side of the broadway..

  • Re: The LCS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Dec-2013
    From Northcote Avenue there was a parade of shops to Saxon Road, big space of hoardings and empty ground, then Dane road, Lancaster Road, next to Tudor Road. Nearly at the bottom of Dane Road, Norman Avenue was to the right, and Viking Road led off Norman Avenue to Spikes Bridge Road. Norman Avenue also led into Northcote Avenue.

  • Re: The LCS by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Dec-2013
    I remember a coffee shop along the Broadway. Around 1959-60. Had a jukebox.

  • Re: The LCS by Chris (Member 10220786) on 8-Dec-2013
    Dilys could that Coffee Shop late 50's have been THE BRISTOL CAFE opposite Parker's Bakers, near to Rogers sweet shop? Chris x

  • Re: The LCS by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 9-Dec-2013
    Thanks for that folks, I know the coffee shop it was just buzzing with people whoever owned it must have been in their glory, something new in Southall.

  • Re: The LCS by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 14-Jan-2014
    What was the name of the coffee bar, opposite the Odeon cinema? Used to serve coffee in Pyrex cups

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Southall by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 29-Oct-2013
Does anybody remember a Shop in Southall called Galham Electrics,I believe the Name was made up from the 2 Partners Mr Gale and My Hamley or Hamlyn.
I was working there in 1949 as an Electricians Mate. If I remember rightly the Shop was between the Odeon Cinema and South Road.
  
  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2013
    1949....along by the odeon..cinema..so west side of south road.....yes there were several shops along...

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    Does anybody remember Le Grand Sutcliffe and Gel, The Green, Southall?

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Oct-2013
    I rember Le Grand Sutcliffe well-knew someone who worked there.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2013
    maypole margarine.quaker oats...kearley ticklers jams biscuits..crown cork.scott emulsion

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    My dad and 3 of his brothers worked there. I did too for a short while in about 1963. I have a booklet from 1960 with quite a few pictures and bits and pieces about employees.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    They did well boring for water in this country and abroad.

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Oct-2013
    I think the well boring was done by soil samplers, Trevor Bayllis the clockwork radio man worked for them, Le grand Sutcliffe was a foundry in the same yard, i worked just over the wall at P.W.Dilloways.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    Denis, my dad was a Foreman Driller, the same as two of his brothers, the other brother was Works Maintenance Foreman in the foundry. They are all in the booklet I mentioned and all worked for Le Grands. When I worked there I typed up the well boring reports. I think Len Doig was in charge of this section.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    I didn't know Trevor Bayliss worked there.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2013
    born 1942..chris pearson worked there carol

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2013
    nice in google ..carol..
    http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Le_Grand,_Sutcliffe_and_Gell

    baylis born 1937 went to dormers..1991 invented windup.clock radio..used in Africa..worked Sutcliffe..soil mechanics lab assistant.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    Re Chris Pearson - In my book there is this:- "Welcome to 16 year old Christopher Pearson, formerly of Gunnersbury Grammar School, as our new Junior Laboratory Assistant. Interests: swimming an all this mechanial".

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    Just been reading about Chris Pearson. Learn something every day. They had some clever people working at Le Grand Sutcliffe & Gel didn't they?...................

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2013
    glad in book

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Oct-2013
    Just coincidence that he happened to be in the issue of the book that I happen to have. Picture in it of the Soil Mechanics Laboratory. Pictures of people just got married, get well soon messages and of people who worked there at the time. Also obituary of my uncle who had just died in November that year, spotlights on certain people etc.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Oct-2013
    lovely..I worked beechams pharmaceuticals .and products gt west rd...good firm..all given day long induction...films..etc tour ..on the 1st day..

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    Is the Working Mans Club still in Southall?

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    yes

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    in google...Featherstone rd...ub2 5al.............tel 07 525 620628....on facebook also group.................also..brit legion..nov 11 southall cenotaph

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    Not quite how I remember surroundings when I was a kid and used to go there. Long time ago.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    Ooooh on Facebook - Ladies Night, Race Night, Poker Night - not quite the same as I remember it - more like wheeltappers and shunters, barn dance, gay gordons etc.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    street view is good google..buildings etc....when did you last see the area....xx

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    Only driven Lady Margaret Road through to Western Road, to cemeteries, couple of years ago, visiting aunt in Marlborough Road. Seem to remember walking from Working Mens Club to a shop that had clay pipes in window??

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    yes Havelock and hortus.....wide.merrick rd new..takes lot of traffic off from south end of railbridge now.goes east round to norwood green...........one old pipe shop..was up by .palace cinema butlers corner top north of south rd on west side...big shop window up there..pipes etc..

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    Wasn't as far away as Palace, seem to remember it was just round corner from club. Maybe memory playing tricks.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    clay pipes yrs ago...yes down southall green way....what yr

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    Would have been about 1952-55 ish

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    ah...when my aunt got married at holy trinity.......1953 kates gran got married there too auguse reception at hambro pub hayes bridge lived bankside there and the other side lived Clarence st Dudley rd....of kates mum carole.southall....1954 all rationing ended

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Nov-2013
    Carol - I remember the Working Men's Club. My friend Mauvine and I used to go there around 1946, when we were both 15. It was the first place we went to for dancing. When we went there, there were a lot of nice Welsh boys there, a little bit older than us, but we always looked older with our make up on. We always had a good laugh with them while they were enjoying their beer! They were staying at ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 1-Nov-2013
    I used to go there with my mum and dad. Whole family used to go, sat at same table all the time. Us kids used to skate up and down the hall when the chalk was put down for dancing, then told to get off when dancing began. Cousin and I used to go into where the snooker tables were and played piano (well tried to play). She taught me to play chopsticks very badly. Remember being told there was ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Nov-2013
    My G/dad was the accountant at Featherstone Road workingmens club in the 1940/50 until 1960.

  • Re: Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 1-Nov-2013
    I think the shop selling clay pipes was in the parade to the right of the Dominion, there was a shop there that I was a I seem to remember was a tobacconists. i only remember it because in the early 1960's they also sold plastic model kits of American cars, some of which I still have in my loft somewhere.

  • Re: Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 1-Nov-2013
    That should have said "to the left of the Dominion".

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Nov-2013
    that's gt ..left of dominion..good memories both of you

  • Re: Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-Nov-2013
    Ealing library have the 1915 roll of honour but interestingly it does not have my grandfather's name although he was at the same time listed in the roll of honour in the gazette newspaper. It does have photographs and details of a couple of my grandfather's mates who he mentions in his diary as being killed. The 1915 editions of the gazette also has photographs and obituaries of soldiers mentioned... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 2-Nov-2013
    Remember, the lady that used to serve in the clay pipe shop,can see her now, believe she was the owner.always immaculate in her dress, very aloof, and proper, and i believe her husband.

  • Re: Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 2-Nov-2013
    Can anybody remember Shackelton Hall in Greenford Ave? As a kid I can recollect them supplying meals at lunchtime just after the war. Was it some form of community centre?

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    yes mr Thompson.....after the war 50s..lots wedding receptions there...we had 3...gt parties..evenings...............mike..used the hall at war meals..there.....

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    gt info...bill.......roll honour ealing library for marg factory 1st war....and memorial old st john..hall...if it is just stone cross as often was may not be names on it...but photos of the 1st 2nd wars ..polished wood boards names...in new st john..church ave...in google.....old st john king st closed many yrs was built back in 1837.became too small.....gdad of northhyde..and his brothers .nephe... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    bill....return 1919...images in ancestry of bapers 1st war...1919.ending...gives info of people..where demob etc..1919 1918 info.at the .mens.papers...60%records..destroyed war bomb..fire..or singed..many there 40%in ancestry military section images.pages.

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Nov-2013
    I remember Shackelton Hall well. Originally it was a library until the new one opened in Jubilee Gardens. During WW2 it was one of the so-called British Restaurant-cheap lunches-I had food there a few times during the war

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    thanks mike library 1930s..1937 deco fine building of jubille built...couple yr ago demolished modern glass one and health centre next to it opened...not long ago.got built

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Nov-2013
    I also had a few meals during the war at Shackleton Hall when we were all split up as a family when my mum was ill. I couldn't remember where it was that I went until I asked on Southall Knowhere some time ago!

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 2-Nov-2013
    Does anybody remember the Greenford Hotel just by the Iron Bridge?

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Nov-2013
    Yes, of course I remember it. It was a landmark by the side of the Iron Bridge for years when we were kids. I believe it then changed to McGinty's a stripper pub, and then the Pig & Whistle pub before finally becoming McDonalds. I didn't ever go into any of them though.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 2-Nov-2013
    My uncle owned Greenford Hotel at one time. Used to go there with mum and dad, remember the sing-songs (all the old fashioned songs). Also went there later on to dances and groups (remember they wouldn't have The Who cos they were too loud). Also used to dance to The Who at The Oldfield along the Greenford Road. Burtons in Uxbridge - Brian Poole and the Tremeloes amongst others. Groups at Whit... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-Nov-2013
    I used to go to Southall community centre too. Also the Oldfied and Burtons. Never did go to the Greenford Hotel. Saw the Who at community centre, a good evening out and did not cost a lot.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    lynne grenford hotel had some changes....was disco..etc...now masdonald hamburgers....commun centre went to se our class mate mariyln crank..ballet since 3yrs old..age 14 danced copelia there...was good...oldfield pub Greenford.closed gone now..yes the who etc there..next along was black horse pub at canal bridge......burtons Greenford high st...had bingo above also...Granada ciema Greenford had p... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    white hart southall high st..Lonnie donegan etc...then .jazz there...now demolished.

  • Re: Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 2-Nov-2013
    Went to a friend's wedding in Hounslow in the early 1960's and the Who were the band, but they at that time were using another name.

    Always remember that the neighbours near the church hall where the reception was held, called the police as even then their music was loud.

    I had a cousin who was taught to play the drums by Jim Marshall, Keith Moon was often in his Hanwell shop.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    jim..they had big event music etc for him last yr hanwell...anniversary yr...blue plaque put on wall there for him..fame...

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    jim..they had big event music etc for him last yr hanwell...anniversary yr...blue plaque put on wall there for him..fame...

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    the who..1st name was the detours......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who
    double above
    entry..knowhere sometimes or my old computer.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 2-Nov-2013
    Granada Greenford - saw Adam Faith and Screaming Lord Sutch. Was at the Oldfield the night the Who announced they were changing their name. Tom Jones also sang there. Community Centre - Johnny Kidd and the Pirates (shaking all over), Shane Fenton (before he became Alvin Stardust), Jet Harris & Tony Mehan, Bee Bumble and the Stingers (who?.) Sure there were others. Good nights, lifetime ago.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    yes good ones carol..great west Middlesex

  • Re: Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 2-Nov-2013
    Good old Granada, in 1963 or 64 I saw the Stones there with the Hollies, Dave Berry, And Goldie and the Gingerbreads, (all girl American group). Couldn't hear a thing when's the Stones came on due to all the school girls screaming.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2013
    and stones today..ha...with some of the others too

  • Re: Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-Nov-2013
    Yes I remember The Who at Community Centre and even though I enjoyed it very much I remember my ears were ringing as I walked towards the station to get the 105 home. I also remember very well Burtons in Uxbridge and Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers, Long John Baldry, Julie Driscoll & Rod "The Mod" Stewart as The Steam Packet, Georgie Fame, Alan Price plus also remember The Blue Moon Club in Haye... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 3-Nov-2013
    Saw the Stones at the Granada then too. I might have been one of screaming girls.

  • Re: Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 3-Nov-2013
    Jet Harris moved to Bembridge on the Isle of Wight several years ago and lived here until his death.

    Our paths crossed a few times at the Hospital, shopping and at his concerts on the Island.

    I work with his first wife Carol's uncle Danny at Clifford's of Heston , the bakers. I never knew that Jet (Terry) also had connections with Clarence St.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 3-Nov-2013
    What was the connection to Clarence Street?

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2013
    yes..because so many people lived Clarence st over yrs..in out of those terraced houses long street..big families ..working locally.so many yrs..and today..double glazed .but Clarence st..ha

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2013
    BILL ..HAVE PUT YOUR REPLY to your post end of aec item...below....1915 roll honour.etc

  • Re: Southall by Chris (Member 10220786) on 3-Nov-2013
    THOMPSON ...my friend from the late 50's early 60's lived in Clarence street and I recall her saying Jet Harris was related. Her name was Gloria Chandler...did you know her? Are you still in touch. I would like to catch up with her again after all these years Chris x

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 4-Nov-2013
    Does anyone have info on Osterley Jazz Club? We regularly used to go there on Friday nights but I can't remember exactly where it was. All I can remember is that we were packed in like sardines and you couldn't see across the room for a thick blanket of cigarette smoke. A friend from Durley Road used to walk round to me in Wentworth Road and from there we walked to Osterley.
    I also remember se... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2013
    denis.....home guard ministry defence .records..in google....to next

    kin near kin form to apply record.
    https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records#service-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2013
    penny.....yes dominion demolished 1980s.art centre now....jazz in Osterley sports area place...tentlowlane south side..field estate open area of Osterley estate there..east end..up towards 3 bridges..windmill lane...lots talk of cramped smoke of it..yrs ago....so..east off from..norwood green..

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2013
    denis....sword beach etc dday 9.15 daily series ..rememberance week...bbc 1...daily..items on..now this week

  • Re: Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 4-Nov-2013
    Hi Penny I,m sure the Osterly Jazz club was held at Osterly Rugby Club in Tentelow lane, which was behind the AEC factory.

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Nov-2013
    Thank you Yvonne will have a look.

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 4-Nov-2013
    Does anyone remember the Botwell Club at Hayes I used to go there with my husband in the early 60's we saw the Rolling Stones there just as they were about to hit the big time. Also the Dominion Pop Concerts whilst still at school The Shadows,Adam Faith and Billy Fury to mention a few also all the mentioned stars at the Community Centre and Burtons at Uxbridge with my friend Carol Dean who moved ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2013
    got a photo of burtons uxbridge looks like it is south side..just west of the famous pillared..covered..ancient mkt uxbridge high st..1960 still the trolley bus going through .but now modern times bypass around the town..much of the high st is pedestrian precinct..very atractive uxbridge today.though..60s shadows etc etc and the hit parade.4pm.sunday afternoons on the radio top 10.top 20.
    to tape... more >>

  • Re: Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Nov-2013
    I used to go to OJC too, and recently tried to research it. I am amazed how little info there is to be found. I remember we either went by a special grey old London bus from Osterley station, or walked over the three bridges then a few hundred yards down Tentelow Lane to where it was by the side of the rugby club. I am perplexed that it seems to have disappeared into oblivion and few memorie... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Nov-2013
    in google..now Osterley sports social club.there called..ub2 4lw..tentlow south side lane..shows on their site street view as well...tel.0208574.3774...if people took their own photos at the time..seem not have put online..the libraries Hounslow and ealing.uxbridge...might have photos....but they do not put on line...

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 5-Nov-2013
    Hello Jean,
    You mentioned Carol Dean who I remember from junior school and that made me think of Carole Tolmie and Ann Birch. Do you know where any of them are now?
    Penny

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 5-Nov-2013
    Hi Penny
    It's good to hear from you again, I too remember Carole Tolmie and Ann Birch but I am afraid that I don't know the whereabouts of any of them except for Linda Harvey, she is in touch with Alan Woodley who now lives in the Reading area. I lost contact with Carol Dean many years ago when I married and moved away. There were so many children that we went to school with I wonder what becam... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 5-Nov-2013
    Jean did any of the Kirby boys go to Dormers in the 1943-47 years?
    Ron

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 5-Nov-2013
    Unfortunately I am unable to answer the question that you are asking Ron, my husband lived in Hayes and attended school there, the only other Kirby's that I know were Mark and Stephen Kirby who were sons of a teacher at Western Road Girls School. Mark was the older one and Stephen was in the same class as Penny and I at Western Road Primary which would have been 1951 - 1958. I hope that this may be of use to you.

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 6-Nov-2013
    Hello again Jean,
    Yes, I remember all those you mentioned. It seems sad that we all went our different ways without any more contact. Also from Western Road Primary were Jimmie Gentsch, Paul Benson, Deirdre Grave, Barrie Mead, Danny le Hec and Frank Chidley. I'll put my thinking cap on to see if I can remember any more.
    Best wishes
    Penny

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 6-Nov-2013
    I should have said Deirdre Graves.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2013
    my family of northhyde..knew the senior chidley family of there the common southall..years 1900s .to 1928..then we met the 3 sisters again 1966 1970 yrs local..great friends of my aunt..there was a brother or 2 also..

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2013
    barry chidley photo genes reunited.dormers football school team .age 13ish..1957/8....his mum worked at crown cork southall green office..........

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 6-Nov-2013
    I worked at the Crown Cork in the accounts department with Emmie Chidley who was the mother of Barrie and Brenda she was a lovely lady and she was like the Mother figure to us young girls who worked in the accounts with her.
    They moved to the Southampton area in the late 1960's also her husband George worked at Crown Cork in the factory.

    Penny I remember all those children also just rememb... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2013
    it was thegood site..friends reunited over 10 yrs...but last couple yrs..changed so hard to use..wrote 7 times to complain to them..one reply they said.thought people might want......no.not true.disaster now..everybody has complained...also.large number people put themselves on..yr 2000..many most have gone off site...now..was a craze but now they loose interest loyalty.just a fad........private e... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2013
    denis..keith..the site is good brooklands bus museum...............http://www.londonbusmuseum.com/

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Nov-2013
    Thanks Yvonne have a look, the site you gave me the other day for service records been on it before, its £30 for a search Home Guard records very very sketchy or nothing atall they advise not to try as £30 non returnable but thanks anyway.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Nov-2013
    £30 is too much..shame...lots photos buses brooklands been looking at today..they always said would expand there.they had room grass for .more items..greenline buses..vehicles to take to out to the plane....9.15 daily am..bbc 1.good series this week.for rememberance..lord mayor show Saturday.was at his goldcoach in museum London last week.they have the London Olympics display torch etc..and spok... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Chris (Member 10220786) on 6-Nov-2013
    JEAN KIRBY....I also worked with Emmie Chidley at Crown cork early 1960's in the STATS dept before she moved upstairs to accounts; I took her job in Stats. A really lovely lady and as you say mothered us all, so kind. I remember George too, he ran the Social Club. I worked with Dave Davison...do you remember him? Also do you remember Greta Edwards, such an elegant lady. I left there in appx ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 6-Nov-2013
    Jean - also Geraldine Keith from Western Road school.
    And from Wentworth Road - Colin Younger, Malcolm Stinton,Lesley Green, Barbara Hancock, Pamela Morgan, Julia and Diane Farraly, Christopher Foulsham, Geoffrey Edwards and Paul Hood.

  • Re: Southall by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 6-Nov-2013
    Thank you Jean. I thought it was worth a go.
    Ron

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 6-Nov-2013
    Chris - I started at Crown Cork in 1963 probably a short while before you left, when I started in the accounts department there was a lady I believe her name was Rosemary although her surname eludes me at the moment, she left and Emmie Chidley took her place. I also remember Mr Hinkes, Mr Gilbert, Mr Salmon the cashier and Mr Lowe the Company Secretary, Ada Evans, Vicky Skuse, Ted Drew, Pam Tilli... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 6-Nov-2013
    Hi Penny yes I remember most of the children that you mentioned Pamaela Morgan lived next door to you, she also worked with me in the accounts department at Crown Cork until she had her baby, she was very young wasn't she? It was a little boy which I believe she named Simon, did she move to the flats in Convent Way? I think that I heard that she lived there. Also in Wentworth Road was the Coulter... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 6-Nov-2013
    Hi Penny yes I remember most of the children that you mentioned Pamaela Morgan lived next door to you, she also worked with me in the accounts department at Crown Cork until she had her baby, she was very young wasn't she? It was a little boy which I believe she named Simon, did she move to the flats in Convent Way? I think that I heard that she lived there. Also in Wentworth Road was the Coulter... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 6-Nov-2013
    Hi Penny yes I remember most of the children that you mentioned Pamaela Morgan lived next door to you, she also worked with me in the accounts department at Crown Cork until she had her baby, she was very young wasn't she? It was a little boy which I believe she named Simon, did she move to the flats in Convent Way? I think that I heard that she lived there. Also in Wentworth Road was the Coulter... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Nov-2013
    Mention of the Crown Cork Company reminds me that when I was in 1846 ATC squadron,(1943-1946) we went to Crown Cork to use their 0.22 rifle range

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 7-Nov-2013
    Yes, Jean - all those names are coming back to me now. I can vividly remember when Brenda Stevens fell into the canal because we happened to be passing by at the time. Also, I too was fascinated by Mrs Fletcher's garden. I remember she had lots of whiskers!
    Also more from Western Road Primary - Leslie Boulter, Billy Dunn and Michael Harker. I wonder how many more there are that we have forgot... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 7-Nov-2013
    Does anyone remember where the Salvation Army citadel was? There was a house adjoining which was empty or almost derelict. I used to hang around with a group and being at a loose end or the weather being bad, we sometimes went to the Sunday School services although none of us were Salvationists. Some of the boys in the group used to get into the house through an unsecured window probably to get u... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2013
    the cidadel itself .was Adelaide rd....my gdads 2 sisters were officers.living northyde. there..it opened.early yrs....but 2 other salvation army places...down..by hayes bridge south side..broadway..hut sunday school there I went...and mt meads book..talks of another army place about.....they went round northcote pub weekends every weekend yrs...war cry.mag....my aunt brought home...

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Nov-2013
    There was also a Salvation Army building at the top of Hambrough road at the end of the little Post Office and Bakers. I think it was Hambrough road, but Ron Cox will remember it as it was on the opposite side of Saxon road.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2013
    seem to remember it as hut shed type hall building south side.at pavement area. on uxbridge rd.south side...up..by past saxon...went there several weeks sunday school..

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Nov-2013
    Yes, thinking about it, when I used to walk or run up Dane road to get my mother's shopping it was opposite Dane road.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Nov-2013
    yes across from dane..south side..broadway...is hambrough rd..with 2013.little school building now 2013..may be council land,of the old salv army hut..given over to council for small school seems there now..south side those old shops..further up west from along broadway..south side ..I used to walk it..

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Nov-2013
    Pauline, mentioning the Salvation Army in Hamborough Road awakens some old memories.Until I was 4 we lived in Townsend Road,and our neighbours on one side were the Aubreys. They were SA people. Their daughter Vera used to take me to Sunday School in the SA place in Hamborough road. She was ~8 at that time. Ultimately she became a GI bride!

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Nov-2013
    That's a lovely memory Michael. When you think about it we, as children in that time, felt safe to be out on our own in Southall and around. I don't think it's quite the same nowadays. I might be wrong.

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Nov-2013
    You are right Pauline Southall was a super place to grow up in the 1940/50s.

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 11-Nov-2013
    Hi Jean,
    One more name to record before I forget it again -
    Roger Rosier.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2013
    you western rd girls school here........1967 times newspaper..13 apr..shopping lesson rowses west ealing with mrs Kirby.your school...and store manager.mr davidge

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Nov-2013
    denis...forces war records in google ..have also transcribed .online..home guard 2 nd war...new from kew national archive released..info..names etc..

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Nov-2013
    Ok will have a look, thanks.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Nov-2013
    in google...ytube film..blitz London by Jason blackman..schools kids shelters buses train houses bombed etc...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZdTv5bgGCM

  • Re: Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Nov-2013
    Thanks for that link, Yvonne

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Nov-2013
    site back again.24 hrs out.....memories of 1951 to 4..etc of bob Livermore on bike telegram boy for southall post office..opposite snooker hall for lunchbreaks..friends fred doring.joe hickley..henry Benchley.dave Maguire..

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Nov-2013
    Talking about telegram boys Yvonne reminds me that I've still got all my telegrams from family and friends for our wedding in 1954 in Southall at Heston Church.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Nov-2013
    that's marvellous..how lovely..great lych gate there for photos..several of my family photos there.weddings ..........and back in the old days just stood there no photos then..ha..

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 14-Nov-2013
    Hi Penny Sorry about the delay yes I remember most of the children that you have mentioned I am beginning to run out of names now what about Martin Upton, Barry Card, John and George (tubby) Griffiths their father was in the police Force, Shelia Mercer, Sandra Hedley and Carole Howse. It was good to hear about Pam Morgan we became quite good friends when she worked at Crown Cork with me, I remembe... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 15-Nov-2013
    Does any one remember the Davis family who lived at 15 Allenby Rd. Brian is in Canada and his brother is in Wales. I would like to make contact.
    Ron

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 16-Nov-2013
    Hi Yvonne,
    You mentioned Bob Livermore. I used to work with Ernie Livermore at the Metal Box Company in Acton in the late 60s. Would this be the same family?

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2013
    will try get message to bob let you know

  • Re: Southall by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 16-Nov-2013
    Ronald Cox,I have Brian Davis email address if you'd like to email me. He is on Facebook too.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2013
    penny reply from..bob .Monday tues or wednesday

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Nov-2013
    Camden lock today London...remake the lock gates..brickwork 200yrs old in good ish condition..old coins found..project to do..waterways...gt tow path use leisure etc..tv news bbc today..public invited..open days..tour and talk.

  • Re: Southall by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 17-Nov-2013
    Dilys
    I have sent you my Email address through Friends Reunited.
    Ron

  • Re: Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Nov-2013
    I think Ronald, that sending an email address via Friends Reunited is a very safe & secure way to do it. I have pasted it into my hat for future reference.

  • Re: Southall by penny (Member 10265839) on 18-Nov-2013
    Jean,
    I am now struggling to put faces to the last batch of names you mention, although the names are familiar. Haven't seen Pam and Vic for about 10 years but they seemed very settled after all those years. I shared a flat in Ealing with Hilary for about 5 years in the late 60s/early 70s then she moved to Aberdeen until about 10 years ago when she and her husband John Ling moved to the Norwich... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Nov-2013
    if you put their names and also married names into the facebook slot search..many many people this last few yrs.and back over 5yrs are on there.there are several groups and towns of nostalgia and old friends found.it has very much taken over from friends reunited for a long time now,quite a few yrs most people have been on there photos chat nostalgia.local.all years

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Nov-2013
    you tube in google..1949 the pub.all there..bowls etc.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXBU5IqqeQ

    also 1956 .looks like start of canal part hayes bridge bankside left .etc..uxbridge rd buses etc.1956.so much there all areas..by Copley urban council hayes Harlington you tube..in google

  • Re: Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 18-Nov-2013
    Penny:- Gillian and Barry Card were the grandchildren of Mrs Fletcher, Gillian was older than us and Barry was a little younger they lived on the green between our houses, also the Griffiths brothers lived there too, looking back I think that I remember that Carole Howse was the niece of Mrs Mazetti, Mum said that her mother had passed away when she was very small and Mrs Mazetti had given them a ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Nov-2013
    Did anybody watch Its a wonderful after life film last night, filmed in & around Southall, Palace cinema the Glassy Junction Havalock Road ect. with some of the cast from the Kumars at 42 TV show.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2013
    is it 42 channel tv..cant find it in radio times or in google to get iplayer repeat on computer...42 does the channel have a name....we only have freeview....monday18th night 2013 nov.your programme.would have liked to see it.

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 19-Nov-2013
    I watched the second half of it but didn't recognise anywhere I knew. Only watched because I saw it was supposed to be in Southall.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2013
    do you have name of the programme time it was on..see if can find it repeat on computer

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2013
    carol what was it called.what time..name number of channel..cant find it yet..thanks

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Nov-2013
    It's a Wonderful Afterlife
    Just looked it up in the Supplement. It was on BBC1 at 11.20pm until 12.55am on Monday 18 November 2013.
    I didn't see it though.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2013
    thanks Pauline will have look thanks

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2013
    11.20 to 1 am.bbc1..supernatural romance comedy.director chadha..2010 film.fantasy.indian cast.mild horror.threats when marry off her daughter..violence drug abuse says radio times...but yes they do film.palace cinema etc backgrounds.southall cameras filming backgrounds..

  • Re: Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 19-Nov-2013
    I just saw from where they were filming in the cemetery. Didn't recognise that as being in Southall and hoped that it wasn't.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Nov-2013
    street view2012 free in google cameras take you round the areas of Havelock and hortus cemeteries..or old front church graveyard of old st john south side king st...went round roman exhibition..month ago..saw hortus courtyard..hortus means garden.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Nov-2013
    this week mayor hilingdon borough unveiled plaque to barnes Wallace his daughter and gson there.worked at bounce bomb early days harmondsworth lab..and national physical laboratory plaque there..9 plaques borough Hillingdon now.ruislip lido mayor ceremony all new there..old vinyl factory .emi hayes.boris given.backing.. £7.7 million.project new business etc centres to start there,now..crossrail s... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Nov-2013
    As its getting near Xmas my mind take me back to my childhood in Southall. One of the things I remember was going to Saturday morning Pictures at the Odeon and on the way home calling into the Arcade which used to be along the Broadway. There was a toy shop right at the bottom, next to an independent radio / TV repair shop. So I,m sure Yvonne can answer this what happened to the Arcade, and when. ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Nov-2013
    I remember the toy shop in the arcade you mention, the arcade no longer exists as such it has been built across with another shop.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2013
    yes sat morn pictures odeon 50s.was very good..tanner...my cousin Charlie he bunked in with his mates..used money for sweets..choc ice gt...but.my route was cut back home quick short cut through north rd....my aunts 1928 to 1961..knew the arcade well..1930s they met their local partners hubbys there..nickname monkeys parade..

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Nov-2013
    Yes the Oden Saturday mornings The sing alongs. the dot bouncing along the top of the words as we sang, as Yvonne mentioned trying to sneak in for free. happy days.

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Nov-2013
    Yes, we all remember the Odeon on a Saturday morning. I remember it in the late 30's and 40's. All the shouting and hollering before the film came on, boys climbing over seats, and rocking backwards and forwards. Some seats had the straw coming out of them! I loved it when the orgsn came on and we all started singing the usual Odeon song. Now altogether:

    We come along on Saturday morning
    Greet... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2013
    lovely memories ..denis Pauline...yes the dot..and girls outsing boys..or left side outsing right side...clementine....etc..if the film broke he had to splice it but boos ..shouts ha..full hse every Saturday.cartoons western comedy

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Nov-2013
    Yes Flash Gordon the orginal in black & white the lone Ranger & Tonto again black & white.

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Nov-2013
    I loved it at the Saturday morning pictures when the cowboys appeared in the Westerns. Was it Buck Jones and Silver his horse? When it got a bit exciting the kids used to shout out "Look behind you Mister" when the baddie was creeping up on someone. Lovely memories.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Nov-2013
    loved norm wisdom bob hope films.....loud the cowboy ones were...my cousin used to..wow wow.noise.home with his feather in his head..then he had cowboy gun caps around his waist hat etc..

  • Re: Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 26-Nov-2013
    If memory serves me correctly the toy shop in the Arcade was Lodges, they also owned the toy shop in the King Street which was renamed Toy Lodge when it was sold to new owners. They had two shops in the Arcade the main one across the bottom and one of the other units along the side which I think was basically used for storage.

  • Re: Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Nov-2013
    What a memory Colin, now you mention it I do remember the storage bit at the front. I used to look in the window at admire all the toy soldiers they had on display. All 2nd WW soldiers.

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Nov-2013
    Pauline-I also used to go to the Odeon pre-war.
    The song then began:
    Every Saturday morning where do we go
    getting into mischief,Oh Dear No!
    Have an idea Roy Couch gave us the full version a few years ago.
    I remember Buck Jones,also Tim McCoy,G... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Nov-2013
    Michael, below is what you wrote on the Saxon road thread:
    Roy Couch has reminded me of the Odeon song from our day(pre WW2):
    Every Saturday morning where do we go,
    Getting into mischief oh dear no,
    To the Mickey Mouse club with our badges on.
    Every Saturday morning at the Odeon.

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Nov-2013
    Colin i still 3 books purchased from lodges King Street shop in the 1930 whit there label i in side.

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 27-Nov-2013
    Pauline-thanks for the reminder. Other cowboy films were Hopalong Cassidy-played by William Boyd

  • Re: Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Nov-2013
    My wife just informs me that the toy shop was also a dolls hospital, and the owner lived in Greenford Ave.

  • Re: Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 27-Nov-2013
    Tom your wife's mention of the dolls hospital stirs a memory, I think the second shop in the arcade was at one time the dolls hospital.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Nov-2013
    scots wool shop in arcade..think greengrocers in there also...

  • Re: Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 28-Nov-2013
    I remember Lodges in the KIng Street well. You could buy Meccano bits separately,lots of dinky toys and Hornby railway. A favourite haunt. I have visited both the Havelock Road and Hortus Cemeteries recently. The former is looking very sad with broken monuments. My grandfather's grave is in one corner with empty beer cans and discarded needles. Other relatives (Couch & Banyard) are nearby. Hortus ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Nov-2013
    bill....Percival hse cemetery dept ealing w5.email is also.in.the old town hall..have the record books..say close kin.give all details...they will give you plot number etc..map on the entry gate ..1870s opened..Havelock..names fade stones go over..

  • Re: Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Nov-2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHhuBZEZESU

    It isn't Southall but a 1950's drive from Hammersmith to Kensington. See how many old shops (and a Martins bank) you can recognise

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Nov-2013
    gt thanks..calm quiet 1950s .martins..marshalls norvic..red buses lorries cars bikes..smart people clothes.gentle time..http://londonist.com/2011/08/video-driving-round-london-in-the-1950s.php
    just typed in google..info up it came..

  • Re: Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 29-Nov-2013
    Does anyone know please anything of a Uitenhage House in Shackleton Road. I have a Mrs Harry living there in May 1915 (a Southall Gazette reference). Uitenhage is town in South Africa. Thank you.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    free in google online..post office directory 1914.yrs...historical directories site.....shackleton rd..east side .only .west side not built yet..brickfields of west ave areas Greenford ave .got built later 1928 yrs.....so..shackleton..lady marg to north rd...the east side...........number 1.on the south side of shackleton..was Robert Thomas warren..famous small..builder many yrs..my gdad .uncle..n... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    free in google.online index...find past...everitt harry age 37 living southall uxb reg dist..born 1874 ...1911 census...lots harry family long list of them locally..in 1911

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    southall had masonic lodge those yrs so did cape town south Africa ..of uitenhage.was masonic lodge there also...boar war...masonic often builders..number.2 harrys house is next door to famous southall brick works.HQ..with the brickfields extensive..west side lady marg rd then..canal off to west....harry may be part of the firm..or the firm..built owned house harry family lived and called it after... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Nov-2013
    I lived in North road 1933-1954,noy far from the junction with Shackleton road, but the house mentioned doesn't ring any bells.
    The people I knew were the Gwythers-Mt Gwyther was a teacher at Dormers Wells School-he had a son Dennis,who was in my class at North Road School, and a daughter. Also there was a Mr Harris,a bookie.with a son Teddy. The bookies office was Harris and Phelp.situated nex... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    also on those 2 corners of shackleton rd..east side...plough pub junction at one corner rob dean.landlord...and on the north corner opposite..now shop..restaurant many yrs..but 1914 was George etherington farmer....large corner land there if southall brick company..in 1914...street view is good..today north side numbers 34 .to 42etc going towards lady marg rd....south side middle along is 21.....s... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    in google....also uitenhage.2009 in westbury.Wiltshire uk..uitenhage house farm..and .in east sussex...

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Nov-2013
    Yvonne did the brick fields stretch from Shackelton to the Ruislip Road in the north & from Lady Marg Road to the canal in the west side. the reason i ask out the back of the flat were we lived there was a long deep trench in Durdans Field long since filled in to build the new Lady Marg school i now wonder if this was part of ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    could be ...on old maps .in google..many yrs 1900s...durdans works...carriages carts...making..1913 eric Campbell at durdans 4 cylinder car making.iron metal works.1918 van making walter moore at durdans..canal near....nickname for 1928 yrs.building west ave Greenford ave ..bottom end of northcote ave east ave.....the old brickfields council estate...west of lady marg rd..west side shackleton rd..... more >>

  • Re: Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Nov-2013
    Thanks Yvonne will investigate.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    waxlow farm..was also huge across the area ..between lady marg rd and mount pleasant..all across the north middle areas ..on old.maps...later houses rds get built on all the land across..

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    above click more have told you 1914 .harry family no 2 .shackleton rd...street view ,number 7 ..number 5..up by plough pub corner...opposite is number 1.etc .on the north side....find past free index military.boar war to 1902 ..dozen harry surname there.at military boar war...census 1901 ..only 5 ..harry family on local census so mr everitt harry..may be at boar war south Africa.but1911..1914.he i... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2013
    Pauline....3.school full class photos.on board15..tudor rd...june davies and joan peryer born 1930..iris cox born 1929.....3 classes .yrs there..1937 king queen photo coronation in the classroom.ernie cox born 1930....IF OUR RON COX RELATED>..lily davies born 1909 lived east ave..june still alive still southall..gave the photos.

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Nov-2013
    Thanks Yvonne for the photos of Tudor Road. I can't be sure, but it looks like me in the second photo in the second row seventh to the left, next to a very small girl to my right. I used to wear a grip in my hair. I recognised the girl in the gingham dress with a white collar in the front, but it's the only girl I remember. I would have been 8 yrs old in 1939, or coming up to 8, as it was obviousl... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    so wonderful Pauline..will look...do you know any of the names gave you..have asked ron await reply

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    have put a close up..enlarged ..2nd row....7th .going from right to left....7th going to the left.with a crip...brunette hair..is it dark tunic..with girl bow blonde to you right...will look again..you said small girl on the right.....joan peryer is front row..1st girl the large size she is on right..gingham white collar..she and june davies gave the photo..june still southall..now today...yes 8yr... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    oh you ..left of small girl..dark hair dark tunic..so you .left of her ,grip on right..parting on the left .at photo.with.nice cotton dress.as you say taller..age 8 yes you look 8.1939....1937 other photo coronation class tudor rd..

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    did joan in the front...go to grammar...june davies went to dormers..

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    simon king off gt tv ..live in google daily filming..birds prey red kites extinct 19 yrs farmers feed meat..100s now 2pm feeds..high Wycombe etc....fly over harefield middx by Ruislip..huge wing span...http://www.simonkingwildlife.com/page/live-cams/kite-cam-968

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Nov-2013
    No Yvonne, I'm to the right of the small girl with the dark tunic, and there is a smaller girl to the right of me (if it is me) at the end of the second row.

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Nov-2013
    This would be in the Juniors as we are all girls in the class, and the boys would be in their boys' Junior school at that age.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    as you look at photo...7th from left going right..light hair..which would make it the 2nd from the right..dark tunic girl with board.to the left of you.in photo........or .dark tunic small girl without board right of her.with light bow.if you.......seems 2nd row ..then another row behind..then back row..then girls standing back wall..lovely photo gt behaved yr 8 or so girls..smart.

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Nov-2013
    Yvonne, you're really confusing me now. Looking at the photo there are two girls in the front on their own. The next row (the second row) there is a very little girl with dark hair sitting up near the windows. Two girls are standing behind her against the windows. I am sitting next to that very little girl, and there is another smaller girl on the other side of me in a dark tunic. Not the one hold... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    will have good look .we are off to grocery supermkt back later..gt

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Nov-2013
    yes ..got it nicely...so close up done..board15..ok correct...left girl..very nice cotton print dress white collar..grip hair..tallish.nice smile lovely....yes 2nd row...looking at photo 7th from the right .going left.sitting ...so 2nd from the left.......do you know anything of the girl front...joan peryer...also june davies there...and cox girl..what luck..photo you you class..yes you look about... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2013
    think got you in the middle of the 3 of you now...photo...all girls..large class...age 8 were boys in a separate class then tudor rd..1939...thanks../gt response to photos..loved by many..general selection..very popular...rare photos.......red kites birds prey.often spoken of..maidenhead Windsor..Chiltern hills to harefield of ruslip..parakeets canal near spikes bridge nest.and lime green birds everywhere

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2013
    think got you in the middle of the 3 of you now...photo...all girls..large class...age 8 were boys in a separate class then tudor rd..1939...thanks../gt response to photos..loved by many..general selection..very popular...rare photos.......red kites birds prey.often spoken of..maidenhead Windsor..Chiltern hills to harefield of ruslip..parakeets canal near spikes bridge nest.and lime green birds everywhere

  • Re: Southall by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 1-Dec-2013
    A great photo but not of my family.

  • Re: Southall by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 1-Dec-2013
    I am trying to locate John Davis,Dormers 1943-47.
    Michael Braden may remember helping me several years ago ,with no results. If any one has info on John please let me know?
    Ron

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2013
    june davies on southall school photos.born 1929yrs.....but lots people called that.....thanks ron...

  • Re: Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-Dec-2013
    Thank you for the information about the Harry family. I will investigate further.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Dec-2013
    ok bill....list of harry..on censuses..southall uxbridge reg dist living...free indexes on line and 1914 post office directory.with harry

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Dec-2013
    The boys at Tudor Road when they left the Infants would go to a separate building and a separate playground from the girls. We didn't mix at all. In my brother David's autobiography, he mentions leaving his Infant class at 7 years old to move to the Junior school. He said he was particularly sad about it as he had formed a friendship with a little girl called Joan Stocker, and he wouldn't see her ... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Dec-2013
    that's why you age 8 in girl class...juniors separated.age 7.to 11...then grammar or dormers age 11...infants 5 to 7yrs old.mixed class.at.tudor rd.......1954 dormers primary mixed classes age 5 to 11 ..then separated..yr11 onwards seniors...couple of days ..classrooms full of pupils photos and the fastest quickest viewing amazing how many people enjoying..trying to find face might know..such rar... more >>

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Dec-2013
    joan is nice in free index in google...1936 born southall reg dist uxb......married 1959.reg dist ealing london w5..as was for southall.TO MR EVANS.......the only other..is joan.marry 1955harrow reg dist..to newman

  • Re: Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Dec-2013
    Thank you for that Yvonne.I still can't believe it.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Dec-2013
    lovely...yes about time she would marry........glad you like luck of photo....you look so nice.hope your sister and sisterinlaw like it and your children grandchildren do.................1939.and terrible day sept when you dad got you back from play when siren went.................the only deaths of joan evans.her married name.born 1936....are...Islington London 1975....Newcastle under lyme staffs... more >>

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Southall by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 29-Oct-2013
Does anybody remember a Shop in Southall called Galham Electrics,I believe the Name was made up from the 2 Partners Mr Gale7 My Hamley/Hamlyn.
I was working there in 1949 as an Electricians Mate. If I remember rightly the Shop was between the Odeon Cinema and South Road.
  
  • Re: Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Nov-2013
    I remember a cycle shop between the Odeon and South Road.

  • Re: Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Nov-2013
    the whole film is..good..views scenes..whether trams southall..or London..this one 1952 yrs ..around...type in google.the elephant never forgets 1952..the trams tribute..chat is so good with it.youtube film.free in google.

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AEC World War Tw0 by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 20-Oct-2013
As Yvonne is already aware I have created a PDF copy of the book Contribution to Victory published in 1946 by the AEC, a copy of this can be downloaded from the following website:

http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/AEC/

The picture of the AEC badge is corrupted but you can still click on it as per the instruction on the page.
  
  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    very grateful ..lovely to read and photos..thankyou...1946

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 20-Oct-2013
    What has happened to AEC is a national disgrace. They built buses which could last for 25 years if necessary with constant London service. Now we are importing buses from Poland etc which often need to be replaced after 7 years service in London. What has gone wrong in this country. "The past is a happy place, and I want to find it again" NOT ONE of my contemporaries (all about age 66) ... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Oct-2013
    I'm just glad my Dad is not around now to see the demise of the AEC and the buses they used to build in his lifetime. He worked on the Crankshafts for the buses at AEC, first in Walthamstow and then moved to Southall until his retirement. I always got the impression that it was a very heavy job, although I know very little about it. I do know there was a great sense of pride at AEC and the equipment they built.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by thompson (Member 10241148) on 21-Oct-2013
    I remember my family having a copy of this book, as a kid I spent hours reading it and being proud that the AEC from Southall paid a big part in the war effort. Thanks for posting it on the web as I can now relive my childhood reading. I think another book was published which had the Routemaster Bus and
    the Marathon lorry.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2013
    think other..aec book...is here...in list of aec...lots of aec here in google...southall...................
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=aec+book+of+bus+lorry&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Oct-2013
    Keith the AEC was bought by Leyland for there engines as Albion was purchased for there gearboxes, Scammall for there heavy trucks ect. As history proved Layland motors could not make anything that was any good & the whole lot whent to the wall.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 22-Oct-2013
    Hi all I been reading the AEC bit with interest.
    As with many, my Dad worked at the AEC for years, he drove the over head crane, where ever that was. I remember the lockout in 1972ish that the workers found themselves having to put up with. I think they were locked out in about June and never returned to work until 2 weeks before Xmas.
    My Dad had a stroke the first week in January the following ... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2013
    best wishes tom...there are very good aec sites..in google...the socity etc...photos 1970s 1980..their sports ground famous..southall

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Oct-2013
    Tom i remember some good nights in the AEC social club playing snooker in the late 1950s

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Oct-2013
    During WW2 we had a young lady lodger.Betty halcombe who worked at AEC. she came from Walthamstow.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Oct-2013
    Tonight l learned that Scania buses that are everywhere in London are made in a Polish factory too. They are expected to last for 10 years maximum, I remember AECs buses, like their Routemasters all lasted for 25 year minimum and some for longer, AECs vehicles were perhaps too good and didn't need replacing so often, but your comments about Leyland are spot on because they never were built as well

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Oct-2013
    After the Routemasters were replaced a lot of them gave further service in places like Blackpool who had a number running in the town as did Pendle in Lancashire & no doubt many other towns.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Oct-2013
    Yes Denis
    Years ago I was surprised to see former London AEC Routemasters running around Edinburgh, long after they'd left Ealing

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Oct-2013
    Have you been to the Brooklands bus museum Keith well worth a visit, you will remember the buses before the Routemaster the RT. Regent (AEC), & the RTL (Leyland) the first (AEC) Regent RT no 1 built in Southall is in there.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Oct-2013
    Thank you Denis

    No, I haven't been to the bus museum, and I now learn that one of the kids in my junior school (Brentside in Hanwell) Billy Cottrell, nearly 60 years ago, spent most of his working life at AEC and was one of the founders of the bus museum! Small world!

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2013
    we went to brooklands gt whole day out...was good..... lots photos in google................http://www.londonbusmuseum.com/

    and the London transport museum covent gdn excellent been twice....

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Oct-2013
    The Routemasters certainly do keep on running. Six weeks ago I was on one in Halifax Nova Scotia the tour guide called it 'an Antique Bus' well I thought to myself that must make me an antique although I think veteran would be a better description.

    I can remember as if it was yesterday waiting in Cornwall Ave for the first Routemaster on our 105 route to take me to school.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Oct-2013
    Fred i remember getting AEC RTs from Rutland road in the 1950s just round the corner from Cornwall Avenue did you live there.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Oct-2013
    The Routemasters in pendle Lancs. were all named after the stars in Eastenders.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2013
    used the 105 often 50s 60s...dormers to Greenford high st....or dormers to broadway southall....all weathers rain etc...still running today....into heathrow now....boris new buses in central London now..photos of them in google...gt weather thames London st pauls globe museum modern art the shard etc over 18 degrees summers day stroll.today....loads thames leisure boats......museum London..everyth... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Oct-2013
    Denis, I lived in Manaton Cres which is off Cornwall Ave from about 1960 until Aug '66 when we migrated to Aus.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Oct-2013
    I had a school friend who lived in Manaton Crescent-Tommy Hedges-but at least 15 years before 1960!

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Oct-2013
    Well Mr & Mrs Hedges lived next door to us at No9 we were at No7 but their children were already grown up as you say Michael.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Oct-2013
    Thanks Fred you lived in the area after me we left Lady Marg. Road May 1960

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-Oct-2013
    What an astonishing coincidence Fred.During WW2 Mrs Hadges was a volunterr ambulance driver. I met her a few times.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 25-Oct-2013
    Mrs. Hedges "Doing her bit" Michael. I never knew that. The other neighbours I remember were the Wilsons at No 13 and a boy a few years older than me, his name was Roy Rodgers and he was stopped by the police one day (as police often do) and asked "What's your name" and when he replied they said "Oh really, well you can tell that to the sergeant"

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Oct-2013
    I went to school with Roy Rodgers, Lady Margaret Road Junior School. We had a Mr Stead as the sports master, who kept going off sick with malaria picked up in the far east during the war.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2013

    Tom what years where at Lady Margaret Road juniors. i remember Mr Stead.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2013
    There was another teacher at Dormers who was off often Mr Walker he was gassed in WW1 Does any remember him in the boys school.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Oct-2013
    Hi Dennis I was at Lady M from 1953 to 1958 when I went to Dormers Wells. Stead was football mad, And my only claim to fame is that I have a football medal which reads "southall schools league runners up 1957/58". Happy happy days.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2013
    Tom i was there from 1948 to 1954 Then i whent to North Road to 1956 then to Dormers left 1958, you are only the second person on here & friends reunited that when to Lady Margaret road school. i dont know if you remember some of the staff Miss Edwards head infants, Mr May head juniors. Mr Owen Miss Cowgill Mr & Mrs Clayton ect.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by thompson (Member 10241148) on 26-Oct-2013
    I remember a teacher at Dormers who was gassed in the WW1. He taught us history and was very slight, frail man; but can not remember his name but he could be to whom the reference is made.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Oct-2013
    Hello again Dennis yes I remember Mr and Mrs Clayton, and the name May rings a bell. My 2 brothers Fred and Sid, went to Lady M Years before me, and Sid used to be friendly with the Clayton s son. Can't remember his real name, but was always called titchy Clayton, as he had a height issue.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 26-Oct-2013
    HI;
    I remember Mr Walker at Dormers Wells,I left 1948, I saw Mr Walker in about 1956 he was living in a Flat at Medway Parade Perivale,I was sent there to repair his ADA Washing Machine,I also remember Mr Lewis I was in his Class when he Collapsed at his Desk,I went next Door and Fetched Mr Double,I do not think he returned to Dormers Wells after that.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2013
    Tom your brothers would at Lady Margaret about the same time as me then, if i remember the Claytons lived on Somerset nearly opp. Derwent Road. Mr Walker was tallish but thin.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2013
    Dennis at the time you were mending Mr Walkers washing machine i was in his class he could be rather bad tempered at times but when i look back i think it was linked to hes health, when hes having a good day he was a super teacher & would tell us about being a gunner in WW1 were he was gassed.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 26-Oct-2013
    My husband used to work for Ada repairing washing machines probably late 50s-early 60s.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 27-Oct-2013
    Hi Dilys,
    Re Mr Walkers ADA Washing Machne, the firm I worked was Pollard Ray & Sampson,they where Electrical Wholesalers, I worked for their Service Dept. which was based in the Greenford Road.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Oct-2013
    That's right Dennis we lived in Derwent Road, no 2 the end op Kelvin Gardens where the plane crashed, another day I remember very well.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Oct-2013
    Yes Tom i think we all remember the 2 Sept. 1958

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Oct-2013
    I'm 65 now and still have the scrapbook I started the day after the crash from all the press cuttings. like me it's now looking a bit worn around the edges.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2013
    who were the 4 local ....who ...died......names......thanks.....3 aircrew but 4 on the ground

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 27-Oct-2013
    Tom - great historical interest, keep safe for future generations. I hate the thought of old photos etc. just being thrown away.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Oct-2013
    Without getting in to loft and finding the book to confirm, the Reid family comes to mind. There was brother and sister, both going to Lady M School. I thing the Girl was called Janet and the brother was known as buster, that's as I knew him so cannot remember his proper name. Buster was in my class at Lady M School, so was obviously the same age as me.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2013
    yes got it as carol..read......at next link....down below....comments down there..under my pleasant.........4 at the houses died...who were the other 3....3 air crew died......not worry loft..shame but not to worry thanks...

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Oct-2013
    Right I have been into the loft and found old scrapbook. The unfortunate ones are listed as,
    Carol Reid aged 11, Ronald Reid aged 10, Mrs Eliza Gibbons aged 45 and baby son Kevin age one month. The aircrew being Capt Peter May get, first officer Gerald Ate a, engineer Dennis Howard. Lots of pictures one of John Leady and Charlie Stocker who were one of the first there.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Oct-2013
    2nd attempt at the names, captain Peter Mayger,and Gerald Altena. I,m blaiming the predictive text on my tablet.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2013
    THANKS tom...good of you ..they said young ones...

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Oct-2013
    What Carol said l absolutely agree. On Saturday mornings there is a big market near us where a lot of people who do house clearances sell all the stuff. Lovely old photos and family memories all thrown away, discarded for the wind and rain to carry them away every week. It is very sad to see.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Oct-2013
    I'm really interested in genealogy and have done loads of research on my family so any photographs etc are of real interest to me. Had a big family in Southall but now all gone except for one still hanging on. Family buried in Havelock and Hortus Cemetery. Cherish every old photo I can get hold of. See people on TV selling family war medals for a pittance. Why?

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Carol becaues a lot of veterans are not well off

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Carol becaues a lot of veterans are not well off

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Carol becaues a lot of veterans are not well off, or to there relatives the money means more than the deed

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Oct-2013
    Denis - I don't mean the veterans themselves but family who are selling granddad's or great granddad's medals. I don't think I would be selling them if I was lucky enough to have any of my family's medals, but then we are not all the same are we?

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2013
    yes ours buried Havelock..ancestry find my past.gt free indexes in google..electoral role.military..gdad enlisted king st office.1st war.hounslow huge barracks..often fuselliers .most many.....2nd war dad etc army from southall......lots photos in google..southall etc..southall green northhyde norwood green..yrs1900s onwards..large families..several..are still related to each other by marriage or ... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Oct-2013
    Yes it is a great sadness seeing old photos strewn about the ground because there is no money in them, and many are young men in uniform. The young today have no ideas about war and what people went through. Some think they're clever being able to get a few quid for granddad's medals without ANY comprehension of what granddad went through (via being conscripted, so he had no choice), to earn t... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 28-Oct-2013
    Hi Yvonne, I have been trying to find info on my Dad ref the war etc, can you give me the full web site address, so I can have a play.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Oct-2013
    Hi Tom - I've just sent for my dad's army records. There are forms online you can download. My granddad was in the Grenadier Guards and there was a different address to send for them. Got these a couple of years or so back.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Carol in the past there have been vets who have sold there Victoria Crosses to stave off poverty. A lot of people today are more interested in money than great deeds done by g/dad or dad its all about money in this day & age.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Tom try RAF Innsworth Gloucestershire they keep personnel records i got my uncles from there, or join the National Archives at Kew London it costs just over £3 per search you can search on line happy hunting.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Oct-2013
    Yes Denis, can understand if you are desperate for money. My mum's brother was killed in WW1 and body never found, just name on a memorial plaque in France and also in St Johns in Southall. Often wonder what happened to his medal, did family sell it? Probably. A young lad killed for apparently nothing.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Like you Carol my uncle died in WW1 RAF but where his medals whent i dont know but certain medals were issued as a matter of course but they get lost over a period somebody some where probably has them wondering who your relative was. Again RAF Innsworth mite be able to help or Kew one of them will be able to tell you what medals ... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2013
    carol yes nans brother blown to bits arras.1917 they send you photo of plinth..british cemetery with.40000 names..no corpse.....we have the ..death penny 4 inch plaque sent to all next kin from acton made....his name on it..scroll with it ..from king......on war memorial name...yes in churches..names..on....in schools Featherstone .boys 1st 2nd war southall school.stone .memorial..western rd now..... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Oct-2013
    Sure there must have been a medal or something issued for those killed in WW1 but as you say get lost over time. Seems easier to find records etc. for WW1 personnel but harder for WW2. They don't even issue full records to next of kin unless they have been dead for more than 25 years.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    Sorry Carol your uncle was army try Kew.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 28-Oct-2013
    I already have a copy of his medal card obtained from Kew, just says presumed died. Also know he enlisted in Hounslow in 1914. From the date he died and from where his name is on memorial, also which regiments fought where - I have found out he was killed at the Battle of Aubers Ridge. Have book about the battle. Think I have found out all I possibly can about him and how and when he died. Ju... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2013
    death penny was sent to all next kin ..in post...those died 1st war plaque 4 inches.with name .on..and scroll from king............british legion can help.....Hounslow barracks since 1750...yes most local..ours were Hounslow....fuselliers......northhyde ours...yours Hammond rd.....3 service medals to 2nd war ..pip squeak Wilfred.......papers images service....injury pension..etc...in ancestry ..mi... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Oct-2013
    telegram came to old rented dwelling next kin..he died 1917.april...battle..30000 died.....entered in little bible in pencil...no corpse..name call and dog tags if found give names of dead.....Hounslow barracks fuseliers.were..nearly all my family were 1st war...dad and his brother army 2nd war.........as hubbys family also......

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Oct-2013
    As you say records WW1 easy to find not WW2 my dad was home guard records non existent very sketchy if any.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Oct-2013
    Carol if your uncle has no known grave he will be recorded on the Menine Gate near Ypers in Belgium, not sure spelt Menine correctly.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    Hi Denis - I know that his name is on Le Touret Memorial in France, Panel 32 & 33. Pictures of these panels are online but can't read the names. Would his name be on the Menin Gate as well?

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    I know his name is on the plaque in St Johns Church in Southall, pictures are online. Strange to think been in the church for weddings and funerals but never knew the plaques were there. Never even knew his name at the time. My mum was born two years after he died in 1915 so she never knew him. He was aged 21 when he died but another two brothers also died before she was born, both in 1916, on... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    carol..we have nans brother name on france ..bay...france commonwealt war grave photo did sent to us...say kin..close.....maidenhead photo dept..cwg.....email..on line....lovely photo name with alphabetical section..6 other names in photo..with photo s of whole places there arras.........menin..no he would not be on that..we have been to menin.....photos..names wood board st john...in google...rea... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    Thanks Yvonne - yes didn't think to send for photo where his name is recorded. I will write to them. Seems appropriate as we are approaching Remembrance Day. Don't know whether his name is recorded anywhere else in Southall, outside school etc.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    if he went to featherst 1915 before most boys did he will be on names stone statue....have photo of st john board....free photo france from maidenhead photo service.cwg. say near kin....cwg photo section..month later comes in post from france.cwg dept ....3 photos ..southall cenotaph said not money many names carve but boolet in ealing local hist library ealing broadway with all names.....

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    OK thanks. I do have photo of plaque inside St Johns. Thinking now that he didn't go to school in Southall. In 1911 census age 16 he was living in Hayes. His name was William John Feast.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    1911...if you have image of the page it gives his address....the censusman register area was called hyes sub district of uxbridge...for southall green......in ancestry or find past indexes....hayes uxb.......is also for southall norwood in 1911.....hayes hayes uxbridge means living in hayes itself........st john...he and his family living in parish southall green..1915...enlist and death.........b... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    le touret lots photos in google etc......just north of my nans brother...went Portsmouth ship..to Dieppe Boulogne...touret ..is due east..into france.....at Bethune....my nans brother got off ship 1916..across to lens...which is south of your touret .pas de Calais....battle.lens..then april 1917 huge battle arras..30000 died no grave...huge memorial bays stone....his name is bay 3..royal fusellier... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    Yvonne, in 1911 he was living at Clayton Road, Hayes and is listed as being a Machine Attendant in a chair factory. The family moved to Southall in 1912. Thanks for help.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    lovely...yes x chair famous know of it....so hayes school...gd luck

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    the death penny plaque would have gone to his next kin..1919/20 ish..in post....they would have got the telegram
    like ours did

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    Sent email requesting photo. Probably take longer with Remembrance Day coming up. Story mum told me was that sister was cleaning front step when telegram arrived. Probably one of older sisters kept medal. As I said, my mum was born two years later, youngest of big family. Older sisters were having their own children when she was born.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    yes sad to get that at door.....I have photocopy of the plaque...it goes to brother.but they have kept it beautifully.....email attach on my computer so can enlarge it...saw him..kings royal rifle corps...Hounslow barracks so big they had several groups there..rifleman.21 .born 1894 young man..may 1915 about 9th ish..number..good you have done...good luck..got mine oh 7yrs ago ish....read of battl... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 30-Oct-2013
    Just a thought Carol there was a Roll of Honour printed for Southall men who served in WW1 it may be that he appears in it. It may be worth contacting Jonathan Oates at Ealing Library to see if they hold a copy and could check it for you.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    yes put above to her already told carol.....that yes oates has booklet all borough death include southall.....and also civilian..list...thanks yes good thing colin....

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 30-Oct-2013
    Thanks Colin. I'm sure his name must be on Roll of Honour being as his name is in St Johns. He was Rifleman in the Kings Royal Rifle Corps, 2nd Bn. died 9th May 1915, age 21. Just reading again about the Battle of Aubers. Machine gunned down going over the top, some killed before they even got off ladders.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Oct-2013
    same as our one 5.30 am..going over top...gunned down..early...barbed wire trap everywhere...battle arras 17apr...fuseliers..so many died..no name grave.....name on bay ..only........1917..

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Oct-2013
    Carol the Menin Gate is said to record all the troops with no known graves

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 31-Oct-2013
    Thanks Denis. Will investigate more. Have ordered photo of plaque at Le Touret Memorial and asked Ealing about Roll of Honour. Been reading again about the Aubers battle and how this seems to have been one of the forgotten battles of WW1. The Kings Royal Rifle Corps lost 15 officers and 248 men. Only 16 have known graves. 11,000 men lost in one day and hardly a mention.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Oct-2013
    Like you i had an uncle who died in Nov. 1918 my dads brother he was in the RAF. i did not know of his existence until 1998 i found out through a friend who is interested in military history, dad never said a word.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Carol (Member 10254505) on 31-Oct-2013
    Only through researching family history have I found out so much. My dad never mentioned anything that happened when he was in the army in WW2. Have photos of him in uniform and at work (think it's in the desert somewhere). He was in the well boring section of the Royal Engineers. I never asked any questions, not like I would now as there are so many questions that are now left unanswered. Fe... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2013
    dad and his brother 2 nd war army...were north Africa...through Italy......came home...uncle had shrapnel..leg....died elderly but hospital said ..metal in him..caused the end....denis...lots info which names.on menin gate ..in google belgium..........says ..those who are on there.......it is clear in google...which battles..are on there names no grave........we went to menin gate 8 yrs ago....1st... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2013
    menin....ypres .salient...battles..passchendale...names carved no grave.....last post done...Belgium honour for their freedom...so pleased we managed to get there once...on way to bruges holiday......then all the other memorials france Belgium etc..no grave names .bays carved...1st war......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 31-Oct-2013
    My father was injured-bullet through leg- in 1918.He was in the Rifle Brigade.His younger brother was killed in 1916 at Ypres

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Oct-2013
    Yes thanks Yvonne thats why i mentioned it to Carol last post 7 o/clock every night Menin fire brigade

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Oct-2013
    My dad was in the Royal Horse Artillery in the first World War. Although he told us as children that he was in France, not once did he mention the dead and the dying or anything about the battle itself. I can only remember him saying that all the trenches were always full up with water as it was always raining and that all of them had dysentery. He did tell us that his elder sister, who was an off... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2013
    that's interesting..so many of the horses went and few returned...the .good book written by morpurgo we had at shelf .good read and the gt stage show..queen popped into..at London one night..such clever puppet work.1st war horses joey

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Oct-2013
    You are right most horses never returned the ones that were left where killed to feed the troops.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2013
    couple weeks ago they spoke of the figures on tv,,.small.% came home..get back work horses farms etc....uk...warhorse .on tv again tnight item..lovely to see the loely brown.horse figures clever...theatre..show.1st war

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 31-Oct-2013
    There is a monument to all the horses & mules ect. killed in wars in Park Lane London which was the the idea of Jilly Copper.

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Oct-2013
    yes remember they spoke on tv of it.......pigeons were the other gt creature of wars...museum to them at..Bletchley pk hut...

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 2-Nov-2013
    Ealing library have the 1915 roll of honour but interestingly it does not have my grandfather's name although he was at the same time listed in the roll of honour in the gazette newspaper. It does have photographs and details of a couple of my grandfather's mates who he mentions in his diary as being killed. The 1915 editions of the gazette also has photographs and obituaries of soldiers mentioned... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Nov-2013
    bill ...brent rd junction western rd..the tall stone war memorial.names carved..with soldier on top..my photos has gas holder behind....we took it...it is in the fence grounds of the new .primary school..by 105 bus stop west side.on the grass of the new school..it was moved ffrom demolished Featherstone rd school to there..not that many yrs ago..........................it used to be in .Feathersto... more >>

  • Re: AEC World War Tw0 by Linda (Member 10291388) on 11-Feb-2014
    Yes Jean, Wendy Sutherland is my sister and we lived in derley road, I know she would thrilled to hear from any of you, she can be contacted through me at lindalovesdoulas@gmail.com. Xxx

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Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by JG (Member 10283035) on 17-Oct-2013
Hi, was just wondering whether anyone had any information or pictures of what was Mount Pleasant Hospital.
Anything would be great!
  
  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2013
    never seen photo of it...dilys lived up there and remembered it being demolished..for flats....1961 nan there....mike..was in there as child....lots people remember it 30s 40s onwards...never heard of photo....try ealing broadway for southall local history library...got lots photos ..email librarian mr oates....local history bks notseen it there...fever hospital isolation....then old peoples hospi... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2013
    in google 2008 now nursing home...complex,,,120 beds...day centre in the corner...newbuildins.all there...britton drive..mt pleasant ..north top of north rd.........http://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/mountpleasant.html
    1904 to 1990...isolation hosp..fever tb.scarlet fever......later geriatrics...wooden huts added...new ward built add29 beds to the 50 beds....largegarden 2 gardeners.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2013
    bupa.....looks very nice large....nursing home for elderly....built on site now..nice interiors exteriors...in google......called manor ct...original gates though..says.....http://www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/care-homes/choosing-a-bupa-care-home/find-a-care-home/manor-court-nursing-home-southall

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Oct-2013
    Yes,Yvonne, I was in the hospital during the Munich Crisis in 1935,with Scarlet Fever-the other paty was for Diphtheria patients.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Oct-2013
    I was also in the "Scarlet Fever" hospital, as we all used to call it. The first time was in 1938 when I was six years old. I remember my baby brother David was also in the same ward in a cot. He was crying once and didn't stop, so I got out of bed and cuddled him and hummed "The Skater's Waltz" to him that my parents always did when the babies were young. The second time I went into the hospital ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Oct-2013
    that's lovely skaters walz....my aunt had bad whooping cough as child.but luckily got over it.....baby had menigitus died 1947 age 2.buried Havelock.....worrying times..

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Oct-2013
    Sorry, Munich Crisis was 1938-they put the sandbags up then.I also remember visitors talking rhrough the windiows.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2013
    thanks mike that's interesting thanks

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2013
    the hospital
    http://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/mountpleasant.html

    1937 map of whole areas ...and buildings of the hospital..
    http://www.antiquaprintgallery.com/middlesex-dormers-wells-mount-pleasant-southall-west-end-1937-old-map-73598-p.asp
    in google.....

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Oct-2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d3AH0-eSL4&client=mv-google&guid=&gl=US&hl=en-GB&ref=nf&app=desktop

    excellent well done ytube...plays ok....Feltham..bedfont .hanworth..yrs back.....very gd liked by many..as good film....in google..FBH these are the days of our lives.youtube

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    mike...best wishes....you may know..40s and yrs around....behind holy trinity church..park view rd......the mansion house...ivy cottage...youth centre area.....but was it a halfway house for the homeless waiting to get on the housing list...run by mr blickfeidt chief chemist......our site here we did have a lady who said she was orphaned etc..her family homeless around those yrs..and spoke of bein... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    just used our index to our site..google.entered it ....july 2010 entry..it was Janice ..spoke of the grand mansion..gone now...but huge garden..the children played...yes rest centre...one room..they had...waiting for council hse......mr meads bk says mr blickfeidt lived ivy cottage mansion.there 1900s 1920 ish..as chief chemist for monsted margarine..........Janice....joyce ireson remembers the re... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Oct-2013
    I have been trying to remember the names of any of the other children-only one comes to mind-Heather Kerridge.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    thanks mike

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    in google....index for our back pages.......mt pleasant...1991 demolished...new old peoples home built there.instead....august 2003 chat here back pages....1950 Purcell hse council flats built by it....photos old hospital..bound to be at ealing library...or they can get some from..the nursing..associations....yr 1900...to 1991...old building huts etc...photos might be with southall norwood hospital photos....

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    david ward.......mike

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Oct-2013
    Talking about the Isolation hospital, I'm sure I can remember some children having to go there with Scabies! Does anyone else remember this.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    lack of vit c..the war yrs also hard for fresh fruit

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Oct-2013
    Pauline,
    When I was in the fever hospital,one boy was in a seperate room with Impetigo-other kids had a milder form

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Oct-2013
    Michael, both impetigo and scabies is very contagious as you know. When I was young, they were both regarded by other people that it was because you were dirty. My brother brought it in, and it soon went round most of us. I got it in my hair and had to have all my hair shaved off. When I was ready to go back to school, I wore a pixie hat, and the girl who sat next to me brought a letter in from he... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    sometimes terrible times..fear of ..not knowing..enough...so people behaving badly.........in google it is clear on impetigo..from poor living conditions..yrs ago..bacteria..skin..and then like so many child..complaints so very contagious..in its active stage.......kids close together

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2013
    1914....they call it..fever hospital and sanatorium....at north rd 1914...if you are looking .under a title in ealing library photos......only allotments by it...in 1914....let us know if you get photo...nan died there..would likephoto...thanks

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 21-Oct-2013
    My dad's sister died aged 9 of diptheria in 1936. Her death certficate says she died in the Isolation Hospital, Norwood. Assume it was the former Mount Pleasant Hospital, now Manor Court Nursing Home.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2013
    yes if norwood Middlesex....norwood and southall 1936..ours died 1936.as well...sadness of those yrs........
    ..........norwood south London..is different.....

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 22-Oct-2013
    Definitely Southall. My dad was born in Clarence Street, one of 14 children - large families back then. Mum was born in Hammond Road, large family as well. I was also born in Hammond Road and went to Dormers Wells, infants at Tudor Road.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Oct-2013
    yes norwood middx then 1936....trying to find photo of the hospital..ealing library might have one.....yes we had family..by marriage to us had 14....1900s..to 1929...babies every 2 yrs...from 18/19 married....many 1880s etc had 12..or so..ours at norwood green 1850s yrs had 12....dormers .before 1966 myself..now pulled down...dad and his sister went there when it opened 1934....seniors.........tu... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Oct-2013
    Hi Carol - What years were you at Tudor road school? I was there in the Infants from 1936 when I was five, and then on to the Juniors. Miss Hannett was the headmistress of the Infants school when I was there, and Miss Trent was headmistress of the Junior school. A really lovely little school where I was very happy.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 22-Oct-2013
    Hi Pauline. I was there a bit later than you, must have been about 1951. I lived in the prefabs and they picked us up by coach to take us from school and then back home again. Then went to Dormers Wells Juniors just newly built. Remember one day I decided not to catch the coach and went home instead with another little girl. Walking on our own at that age seems unbelievable now. Think my mum ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2013
    just about my yrs...yes walked alone..we were 1st class dormers infants juniors..1st opened sept 54....nice right south side field..lawn for lesson on summers day outside...maypole on grass,,nativity on stage xmas...junior s...path down to playground little curve brick wall...handstands or ball against....left path..to back..golflinks..wood..we went for nature lesson..walk alone..all across the gr... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Oct-2013
    burns ave was the other walk through to dormers lane...through to Carlyle ave..spikes bridge pk...1947 my aunt moved in prefabs when 1st built..nice gas fridge.fitted kitchen 2 bedroom..separate toilet bathroom....back square garden..little closed in door coal fire...living room.............friends reunited site has pupils..teachers listed..dormers..primary and seniors...1958ish..1960 miss morris ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Oct-2013
    Mr Owen was my class teacher, wore bicycle clips. Really liked him. We had to line up each morning with hands outstretched for inspection, one side and then the other. Mine were always clean but if they weren't then got smack with ruler. I lived at second parade, Greenford Road end, not far to walk to school. Ice skating on pond, climbing trees, drinking from stream, how did I survive? Happy ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 24-Oct-2013
    I remember Mr Owen too. I loved living in the prefabs, Osborne Road, off of Flemming Road. Loved roller skating, wore the rubber on the wheels out. Lived closer to the other end of Flemming Road. Lived there till we had to move to 2nd Tower Block and the prefabs came down. I was 17 and moved with my dad. Lived in St. Andrews Tower till 1970

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Oct-2013
    Remember the brick walls entrances from Greenford Road. Was a trough there as well presumably supposed to be for flowers but there never was any. There was a pathway by the side of the green going downhill, used to be great for roller skating, my sister broke her arm going down. We moved to the flats in Lady Margaret Road when the prefabs came down. Friend of mine moved to flats in Norwood Green... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2013
    must been sad sight see prefabs come down...mine there from 1947 when new.......greeford rd end 8th parade by path to bunny pk...pond used for fishing today..loads golf.......dormers primary cant remember teachers names except when 10/11,,last form teacher mrs parker did crafts embroidery silk threads .work..lovely lady..baskets made......roller skates had....seniors they mixed the boys with girls... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Oct-2013
    Times sent to see Miss Morris sitting outside office. Otherwise sent outside class to stand in corridor and hope nobody saw you there to ask why. We had Miss Littler for English, Miss Dwyer for what we then called arithmatic - she was so small used to stand on tip toe. Miss Evans - nightmare. Miss Davies for PE. Mrs Maynard for cookery. Miss Pinkney with glass eye for French - couldn't contr... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2013
    yes skirts with net huge petticoats..evans was evil 4 yrs put up with her.....Gabriel geog...ellis hist...dwyer got married to cooper...English with her...fishel sci...maynard hut did washing hankies teatowel ironing....did cook..to gce..with lewis at in corridor class right side on way to hall..opposite milk room..inoculation room................lttler yes went back to ..2000 reunion..with coutts... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Oct-2013
    Yes Miss Evans was evil. Remember sitting whole lesson in silence cos nobody could answer question. If you did know answer you didn't put hand up anyway. Only thing I ever learnt in her lesson was that Epiphany was on Jan 6th and can only remember that because she spat out the word Epiphany and showered front of class. Yes 4 years of her lessons was a nightmare. Sent outside class once, think ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Oct-2013
    Hi Carol could i ask which flats you lived in Lady Margaret road.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Oct-2013
    Hi - At the top end of Lady Margaret Road - 3 blocks - just round the corner from Taylor Woodrow. We were in the middle block.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2013
    yes alllessons of evans...exactly like that 60 mins silence ..one question give...no answer.......one church going lovely pretty girl sat front row..tried to answer ..the riddle.....no.no no....the kid chris Collins was in floods tears...4 yrs all classes of school...stupid so called lessons like that nothing...she had never been to teacher train college.....salary ..wasted...kids complained....Of... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Oct-2013
    we were A stream 4 yrs....so that is all classes of school...had that one question thing every hour...she repeated.every class..while she leaned over the 30 kids....her bully to every single class in school..50s..she did it and 60s..that was all she did..complaints and nothing done..power mad .she was insane..and nothing done...hard working teachers of curriculum...many yrs now..earn their wages s... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Oct-2013
    I think the only detention I had was a class detention from Miss Evans. She really was not a nice person. I cannot imagine any schools putting up with a teacher like her now, certainly not the schools that my children attended here in Canada. I was in Nightingale house and enjoyed my time at school but was glad to leave and earn money.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    nightingale yellow I think..curie .white.fry red..20yrs evans must have been there retired 1966.july...Ofsted.go in check schools regularily...since started 20yrs ago..she would have been sacked as soon as she started..Dorothy morris covered up for her .spinster gert evans the wages payed her rent....harmful to children.antisocial to staff.she was mad..complained about but nothing done..no teachin... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    I was in Darling House if memory serves me right. Dont remember the colours. I was in netball team and ran in relay on sports day. Remember javelin, discus, long jump, high jump, quite enjoyed the sporty things, except hated hockey, standing there freezing cold in goal with shin pads on not my idea of fun. Enjoyed lots of school time but hated some of it, didn't like being told what to do, bit... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    Sorry that should have been £3.10s.0d. a week getting old and new money mixed up. £2 to mum and £1.10s.0d for me.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    yes was that sort of money those days..I had to pay tube fares as well..they were dear..to white city...oxford circus also.taken from small wage pkt.....yes blue hse...grace darling....green hse was black woman who did good works.was it seacole..white hse curie..fry red....yes netball..out front net..or in the square area by .toilet block.off the cloakroom, block..by the old cobweb airraid concret... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    Can only remember Grace Darling, Florence Nightingale, Edith Cavell and Marie Curie. Seacole doesn't ring any bells.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    Just thought - Elizabeth Fry

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    Apparently, the other house was Mary Slessor, but that doesn't ring any bells with me either. They couldn't have been a very popular house haaaa

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    yes just found it..on our back pages...slessor....green...she was from Aberdeen Scotland died 1915 Africa missionary...yes6 houses.........knew Africa thought of famous..seacole with nightingale Crimean war......colour badges worn by sports house captains..think..navy blue .darling..hazel hockley wore good at hockey team sports captain....head girl was eliz sach..deputy..Valerie hardman..long thin... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Oct-2013
    Yes, hated hockey as well. Remember Mrs. Short saying" you hit the ball, not jump over it." Quite enjoyed running and long jump but not the P.E. indoors going over the box. Carol, what was your last name at school and what years were you there? My first job was at Thomas Claytons on Sussex Road, Southall. It was in a old shop with outer buildings. My office was an old air raid shelter. Great place... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Oct-2013
    Yes, hated hockey as well. Remember Mrs. Short saying" you hit the ball, not jump over it." Quite enjoyed running and long jump but not the P.E. indoors going over the box. Carol, what was your last name at school and what years were you there? My first job was at Thomas Claytons on Sussex Road, Southall. It was in a old shop with outer buildings. My office was an old air raid shelter. Great place... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Oct-2013
    Yes, hated hockey as well. Remember Mrs. Short saying" you hit the ball, not jump over it." Quite enjoyed running and long jump but not the P.E. indoors going over the box. Carol, what was your last name at school and what years were you there? My first job was at Thomas Claytons on Sussex Road, Southall. It was in a old shop with outer buildings. My office was an old air raid shelter. Great place... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 25-Oct-2013
    Yes, hated hockey as well. Remember Mrs. Short saying" you hit the ball, not jump over it." Quite enjoyed running and long jump but not the P.E. indoors going over the box. Carol, what was your last name at school and what years were you there? My first job was at Thomas Claytons on Sussex Road, Southall. It was in a old shop with outer buildings. My office was an old air raid shelter. Great place... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    the nice long thick scarf came in...green..with yellow stripe...good for the long winter dark afternoons.trek home..fog rain...warm scarf..early mornings all weathers....thebelt we had front metal.hook over little money zip bit in it..pleated navy skirt....cotton skirts dresses gingham....back of atage...used for costume make up.pirates penzance etc...moustache on girls....lessons used there wood ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    Hi Lynette - I was at Dormers Wells Seniors from 1957 to 1961 and my name is Rycraft.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    just before us...but similar time to nice chris Putney.of north rd.......you were leaving as we arrived 1960 sept...stage show they did in the hall july 1960...gilbert and Sullivan.....was Dorothy morris there when you arrived....so she was there 15yrs..50s 60s......from far west wales.miss moris..she went back there at retire 1967 april .passed away......if she knew gert evans from wales...so she... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    I remember there was a fashion show staged and was filmed by the BBC. Must have been about 1960. Shown on one of the early evening newsnight programmes, cant remember what it was called. I was sitting in front row watching. When we knew it was going to be on TV sat down to watch and just as camera panned to where I was sitting the TV went wrong. Missed moment of fame haaa

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    don't know of fashion show..but we only knew our class really..if 35 in class...about 4 forms..or 3 ...each yr...suppose 500./400 girls in school..4 yrs.... then later 6th form...good your tv show.. pity though...age 11 1st yr...2 schools at top of form...bbc tv.quizshow..1960 ish shackleton hall...two teams 6 or so in each sch..dormers team...hall by lady marg rd near geeenford ave....was filmed ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    Shackleton Hall 1960 was at cousins wedding reception there.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    we had 3 wedding receptions there 1953 1957 1958.....weddings holy trinity..nice photos white dresses button holes..bridesmaid..dancing conga around the hall at end about 11 pm..musical chairs...good hall weddings evening party food drink..music..

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    My sister was married at Holy Trinity 1958, reception was at Conservative Club. I was bridesmaid.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2013
    What was the name of the hall just round the corner from the school in Allenby Road? Went to Coronation party there with my sister. Cant remember name of it.

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Oct-2013
    yes my cousins married 1958..holy trinity pretty church ..conserve hall still there in use....had my 21st there.....Allenby rd hall hut gone now....was for dormers seniors...did acting in there....they had youth club there many yrs by 105 bus stop....east side...gone now......kates gran married holy trinity 1953 aug,,carole born 1955...went feathers sch..lived Dudley rd...southall family goldsmith... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    dormers seniors.......miss evans..presume of welsh origin..elderly.spinster....what am I thinking....to every class ..for donkeys yrs..silence hour..intimidation bully....eva jones PE....sue short.games .netball....dwyer married to be cooper..English...mrs coutts married name 1959 ish was there before under maiden name..music.limp...gt teacher..went to yr 2000 reunion..think she herself went to so... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Oct-2013
    Yvonne- in your entry of 20th Oct,you mention Purcell house flats. I wondered if the name Purcell was connected to the Purcell sisters, two schoolgirls who were killed in an air raid in 1940

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    that's interesting mike will try find out thanks..best wishes...

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    on the site of your isolation hospital...britten drive....benjamin britten..music...and the flats....over 10 of them ..large flats there..called Purcell house....henry Purcell ..music....like the poets ..burns etc...southall council...chose so many famous names of streets etc.....lady marg longest rd in southall..lady margaret.after earl jersey family who owned so much land southall norwood green ... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Carol (Member 10254505) on 26-Oct-2013
    Have you seen the British Pathe news clip about the opening of Southall Hospital by the Lord Mayor of London in 1935? Also the air crash on Kelvin Gardens. My aunt and uncle lived at 43 Allendale Avenue. Their garden backed onto Kelvin Gardens and I can remember looking at devastation from their garden. Does anybody know the names of those who were killed?

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    yes names are about...was in gazette and some people of the area still talk of it..crossed lady marg that morning the smell was awful....yes seen pathe ..ones..several films there...60 Allendale gdads sister 1928 to 1980..1st war widow..2 kids..girl got.married from front gate bridesmaids photo 1936......gibbons boy who got Carnegie medal for 14yrs old lad rescue work he did...haigh mayor southal... more >>

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    in google several items..there
    http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//RTV/1958/09/02/BGY503060061/

    7 people dead including 3 kids..included mum and new born baby...7.30 am Viking plane crash kelvin gdns

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    14 yr old presentation award saved his 5 yr old nephew fron fire of crash..newsreel clip....photos....2 sept 1958...kelvin gdns,,,,,..http://londongrip.co.uk/2011/10/picking-through-the-bits/

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    girl carol reed died.....3 crew died.4 at the houses died.7.30 am...8 injured......brian gibbons got king George medal bravery.rescue his nephew tom...back pages our site here 2004 jan..and down at 2005...
    http://londongrip.co.uk/2011/10/picking-through-the-bits/

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2013
    ealing library more info photos...gazette etc...was on tv news 1958...

  • Re: Manor Court Nursing Home - Was Mount Pleasant Hospital by North Road by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Oct-2013
    Yvonne-thanks re Purcell House.

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It's a shame by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Oct-2013
I used to contribute to this (not very often) and many other Knowhere boards, but it's a shame that all the others have gradually died out. Even Ealing gets no new postings now. Thanks to all, especially Yvonne in particular for keeping this one going. I don't know why all the others, even local ones, get no new contributions even from old contributors, but it's a fact now. Thanks Yvonne   
  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2013
    ok..thanks.nice words appreciated greatly...xx.....2008 2010 you see loads southall Greenford etc..people....taken up..facebook....some sections local history.to fascinate.families friends school friends through generations yrs..........you get from several people.daily.instant replies and chat.response.all ages.........the site send you email to say postings...and photos at nearly every contribut... more >>

  • Re: It's a shame by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Oct-2013
    I agree with all you say Keith, including the contribution of Yvonne.
    The towm where I live now(Harpenden,Herts) has only 72 contributions-quite a bit of advertising.

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2013
    11 yrs ago this site started here.....but facebook has grown hugely....same sort of site...chat nostaligia ..all ages...each area..own group...barry Raymond does Heston Hounslow bedfont hayes etc.................5 or so yrs now....huge numbers use sites..daily...with posting photo by chat also....chat of 1930s etc...onwards..and some fascinating local history..also...research done by some....who l... more >>

  • Re: It's a shame by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Oct-2013
    HERE HERE I AGGRE LONG MAY OUR SITE LIVE.

  • Re: It's a shame by Chris (Member 10220786) on 11-Oct-2013
    A HUGE vote of thanks to ALL who contribute to this site especially Yvonne who keeps us all travelling down memory lane. I can't praise her enough. Thank you Yvonne. Chris x

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2013
    that's ok chris..best wishes to you...denis Pauline mike..fred.keith.chris...we have gt members..Sheila..Janice..and bob etc .etc etc .bill...gt people...and 11 yrs fantastic archive..precious shops etc archive info...going back yr 2000..pages

  • Re: It's a shame by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Oct-2013
    Yes I agree about this site and concur re Yvonne. I just don't want to go on Facebook. What I like about here, is that you just look at it when you want to & don't get contacted by the site or bothered by having your name used elsewhere.

  • Re: It's a shame by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Oct-2013
    I do agree with you Fred. I love this site, and find it is enough for me to read through what everyone has said, even though I don't obviously know about some of the places which are referred to.
    My daughters keep telling me about Facebook and what it's like, but I am content to remain here!

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2013
    some parts of facebook I would not join...but closed site...admin...small quality instead of quantity is their motto...local of similar knowledge and interest..very similar people to the 11 yrs of this site.........some facebook are different from the rest..completely different...and click at top...for... not view topic..or such..so .only .view ones want to....archive photos ..go through in..topic... more >>

  • Re: It's a shame by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Oct-2013
    Let us not forget the great contribution of the late Len Goddard.

  • Re: It's a shame by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Oct-2013
    Yes, indeed Michael. Len's knowledge of the shops on the Saxon road thread was remarkable. Plus, the many, many other pieces of information. The beauty of it as well is, it is still all there for us to refer to.

  • Re: It's a shame by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 13-Oct-2013
    Pauline the Saxon Rd 1939-51 has not been available to me for some time. Could you check to see what you get. Ron

  • Re: It's a shame by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Oct-2013
    Hi Ron - I Just tapped in Ron Cox 21 January 2009 Saxon Road 1939-1951 and Saxon Road came up.

  • Re: It's a shame by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Oct-2013
    Does anybody know what date Northolt race course closed.

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2013
    about the time of war before 1939..1920 s 30s they were getting off Northolt rail station from London gentry went there....will get gazette it was in there week ago..get back to you..

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2013
    gazette last week photos....quote....after war attempts restart races failed....severe hse shortage..built council houses..book..by len Jayne .pony races.story Northolt pk....7 may 1946..council said most perfect racecourse in the country local peole cheered......stands demolished it may 1955...grandstand was relocated to brands hatch.....race control box remained there till 1994...gates .and stre... more >>

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2013
    list of nice sites on it here in google photos etc,,,,,,,,never been able find photos Havelock rd southall greyhound races...nothing....yrs 1930s..1950s....little on it..shame....

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2013
    in the link list pathe film..course.....Britain from above photos 1933 the course....etc...lots in google..Greenford Northolt border site..north of lady marg rd southall...

  • Re: It's a shame by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Oct-2013
    Thank you Yvonne i can remember the rails still being in place, yes streets named after race tracks, aunt & uncle lived on Thursk Close i did not realize that parts of the course lasted until into the mid 1990s would have taken some pics if i had known.

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2013
    photos on your..flickr..your ist photo..at comment...just click...get board14......then..at your other photo..several boards just click....15 has...track photos...1934 pathe news free in google George Formby singer raced there....road called redcar close.near manderville...now...1st track to pioneer photo finish and start gate...,,,,the course was used for filming..max miller comedian..film...than... more >>

  • Re: It's a shame by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Oct-2013
    Did you have any luck in getting "Saxon road" Ron?

  • Re: It's a shame by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Oct-2013
    Denis, I was thinking about Northolt Racecourse the other day for I remember seeing a long article about it once, with photo, but I cannot find it now. It might have been on a "London Borough of Ealing" website, but cannot be sure. I was reminded of this as I read that there are so many old racetracks (dog and horse) now built on. Who still remember Hurst Park, across the river from Hampton... more >>

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Oct-2013
    lots items..list Northolt race...in google....photos etc..info...
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=northolt+race+track&form=CMNTDF&pc=CMNTDF&src=IE-SearchBox

  • Re: It's a shame by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Oct-2013
    Thank you for that Keith.

  • Re: It's a shame by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 15-Oct-2013
    Computer down for a few days.
    Yes Thank you Pauline and Yvonne

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Oct-2013
    ok ron..good luck with computer.....just click the link and up comes saxon rd2009.....best wishes you and family

  • Re: It's a shame by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Oct-2013
    It's iGoogle that's closing down on November 1st. It still keeps giving a daily countdown on my computer, but fortunately I don't use it!

  • Re: It's a shame by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2013
    we don't get ..this....tony thinks...bit of virus......suggests doing anti virus scan......in google it tells you about some people getting that peculiar message...not google says tony.....IT IS I google..that is closing nov 1st..over yr ago said it..i google......we don't use it...different ...not the big main google people....home page set up for weather etc comes up news etc..comes up auto dail... more >>

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THE SHRUBBERY by Chris (Member 10220786) on 29-Sep-2013
Phylis can you help please. I know you lived in Shrubbery Road which got it's name because in the late 1800's a large house was in that area called THE SHRUBBERY. Do you recall AMSDOM & POPE sweet shop? At the back of there to this day there are remains of a very 'ornate' wall. Along with others I am trying to discover if this wall is part of the old house THE SHRUBBERY. Do you have an knowl... more >>   
  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2013
    phylis........if you heard of shrubbery house used as small asylum.....1881 1891..censuses by jane rosser..1870 etc was dr stewart living there many yrs.in shrubbery house..........famous.abbot brothers.place firm.was shrubbery rd 1947 in google.....try to see this old wall found.2013.......which wall demolished place it..was......if you know anything thanks phylis..best wishes..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2013
    gt read..book pages....southall Northolt Greenford through time...famous sharvil lane prehistoric track roman villas farm..........famous smith farm..sept 2013google to be flats...1595 farm barn went tochiltern open air museum..we sawit RG....timber frame brick barn,4 bays...canal famous wood bridge....east side of famous northalahills pk..of wembly stadium.rubble used...western ave...http://www.n... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 30-Sep-2013
    Hi I also lived in Shrubbery Road for 17yrs and have never heard a Shrubbery house mentioned, I did wonder if maybe it was Dr Glass house that faces the green, its the only big house that I can recall in the area.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2013
    thanks Sheila...it is on the 1911...census...the shrubbery house....jane rosser.had patients ..there.....before dr stewart 1844 onwards had patients there.....big hse ..shrubbery rd..named after it......this week 6 photos of old yr 1844 old wall parts there photographed...elaborate arch .design bricks..easily 1844 bricks....gt save of southall....wall still there.......houses built road 1911 onwar... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Sep-2013
    aec...draw office 1954/5...draughtman etc....southall.....photo gt..etc.....in google......http://middx.net/aec/personnel/mdo_006.htm

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2013
    I've just had a notice appearing on my screen that Google is shutting down in 31 days and to save anything stored in it. Has anyone else had this?

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    wow..oh dear..will ask tony..will let you know...oh

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    have typed it in google........31 days.....page of items comes up....tony not heard of your screen message...thing...he is ..having a think

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    says 1st april it was on screens but..joke....1st oct today...pinch punch 1st mth no returns....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2013
    Thanks for that. Although I don't store anything in Google, I would really miss it. Wonder who the pranksters are who are doing this?

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    yes strange...best wishes

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    mike...all.....do you remember north rd......just by shrubbery rd...south edge of it...was tiny petrol station.....................do you remember undertakers...just before. white hart pub uxbridge rd........thanks....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    1940s...50s..yrs approx....bob morrow had the garage.....mike..shrubbery rd...the back gardens...of the north side.row of houses.....photos of...high 1844 bricks ornamental wall.....seems..wall grounds of the shrubberys...asylum.sometimes patient there..between..1844 to 1911 yrs ..1920s big hse the shrubberys.....did you here of the house...mike.demolition...boundary wall still there...thanks..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    oh it was spicers..then.after 1955 theymoved onto south rd..from there....all our funerals...most peoples were spicers......

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Oct-2013
    Yes, I remember Spicers the funeral directors. They did my dad's funeral in 1971 at Ruislip Crematorium.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Oct-2013
    yes my west ave dad ..his sisters.and brotherinlaws..etc...... Ruislip..later yrs...most many were..but 4 of my west ave 1936 1948 1960 were hevelock spicers used.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Chris (Member 10220786) on 1-Oct-2013
    Along that block of shops was an Off licence. Splicers and next to the White Hart was Quinions ..Sadlery shop. In later years he also sold leather goods, handbags and luggage plus sports shoes. Chris x

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Oct-2013
    Just to say that Spicers was still along by the White Hart in 1971 as I went there myself to book the funeral.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2013
    that's interesting might be 1973 ish move to south rd..east side..on street view still there today..thanks ..gt info Pauline thankyou..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Oct-2013
    Yvonne- remember most of the things about Shrubbery road you mention. A friend of mine used to go out with a girl from Shubbery Road-Mavis Cripps

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 2-Oct-2013
    Spicers the undertaker wastzken over by the older daughter Sylvia her husband and brother I was very friendly with June the younger daughter I think her husband also went in to the business I had ashop over the bridge.My mother was Mrs Quions cleaner it wasthroughMr Quion that we got the house in Shrubbery Road mum and dad had the offer to buy it for £800 but refused they would nt believe what t... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 2-Oct-2013
    I did nt have a shop over the bbridge the Spicers did , lesson learnt do watct tv whilst do ing this

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2013
    thanks mike.1930 yrs did you hear of the shrubbery hse,,,,,,entrance onto north rd..just north edge of east end of shrubbery rd...1844 to 1900s...gentry house...dr steward.MD,,,,then jane rosser...1 or 2 mental asylum.people there...grounds gardens out back......kids to 1960 playing on the old 1844 wall high there boundary....rubble there...never built on....old shrubbery hse......anny info..mike.... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Oct-2013
    always lovely to hear you Sheila....great lovely read it all...thanks....think..spicer went to north rd 1972 to 1974 yrs.......yes please list of peoples names shrubbery be lovely.....behind the north side their back gardens...open space....very old handmade bricks high wall parts yr1844....of the old shrubbery house dr steward 2 patients asylum........did you hear of it.when was it demolished yr ... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 2-Oct-2013
    Michael, Mavis Cripps was my Aunty & married to my Uncle Shamus they lived in the road that backs onto The Cut at the top of Regina Rd and had a huge apple tree.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Oct-2013
    Fred-most interested to know Mavis was your Aunty-have an idea her hair was reddish in clour

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-Oct-2013
    Well when I last saw her about 25 years ago it was a sort of sandy colour she always had a very cheerful disposition & she adored my Uncle but then he was easy to love, such a gentle man my eldest daughter who is now 44 herself was charmed by him & was very sad when he passed away in 1991. I think Aunty May passed away about 7 or 8 years ago.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Oct-2013
    Fred-Sorry to hear of Mavis's passing

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 3-Oct-2013
    I've been catching up with all the entries and am interested to read of a house called The Shrubbery. My cousin Bob Hurdwell once told me of a derelict house which was boarded up where he used to sometimes 'explore' with his friends. As far as I can remember, the house was somewhere at the back of the houses in Shrubbery Road. This would have been around 60 years or so ago. Not sure if this is of any help.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 3-Oct-2013
    I've just remembered there was a block of more modern flats/maisonettes between the bottom of Goldswains garden and older houses - all opposite where North Road clinic used to be - maybe this is where The Shrubbery was?

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2013
    very kind Janice....have 20 photos...pity cant show here...today..still derelict land...google says attempts build but access problems..........thanks boarded up 1940 ish yrs....yes north back of shrubbery rd..still space there...fantastic photos this week of ornate boundary walls of.the grounds garden.hse..1844 to 1920ish hse..dr steward 3 patients in as asylum......wish he could have taken photo... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2013
    Janice we were thinking that ..yr1844 shrubbery hse...was demolished.....before 1940....1920 or when ever...but place left derelict..1897..terrace row is there on stret view having been built........1940s 50s yrs.......war yrs do you think..it might have been fine 1720 gentry house of grove house which is there....that might have been boarded up .for protection during the war..it is heritage liste... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 3-Oct-2013
    yvonne noe you mention it I do remember the brick wall you may be right prehaps that where the house was may be the little shop that was there was the lodge house or something. I not to sure about putting the peopple who lived in Shrubbery road on here , what do you think ?

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2013
    lots of people chat about neighbours names..1940s 50s..seems ok..might jog peoples memories old friends..lots of southall emigrated oz..etc..went new towns..uk...not to worry.....yes thanks little shop..is boarded sweets..it is store area..closed many yrs.....yes old wall glad you remember....wonder if the famous...grove hse by the sweet shop was boarded up during the war 1940s yrs.......thanks be... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Oct-2013
    Janice-is Bob Hurdwell still around?

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2013
    Sheila...mike.....Janice...bob................on the short page of this site...12 shrubbery rd....Marjorie honor blake.lived there had illegit son....rosie of parslow blake family.looking for info........baby boy was adopted..................seems your years..if info known..blake..number 12...

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Oct-2013
    Hello Michael - Yes, Bob Hurdwell is still around. He'll be 79 at the end of this month and has lived in Maidenhead, Berks, for many years.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 4-Oct-2013
    Hello Yvonne - One of my father's sisters married a Joseph Blake from New Road on the Brentford/South Ealing borders - lived Ealing Road, Brentford. What little I know of the Blake family, there is no Marjorie among them. My parents 'emigrated' from Brentford/South Ealing so it's possible some Blake family did as well. Maybe a connection but would be hard to follow up for sure as he was my uncle b... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2013
    thanks jan.....few blake family about...1951..north rd..blake .mother .mrs m blake..think Marjorie..and daughter Eileen marie blake...young...pregnant..they went to new Zealand..baby boy denis born adopted.out.......blake 1951 and yrs before were at 207 north rd..seems right on top of the post office grocers opposite beehive pub...1951 mrs m blake and pregnant daughter Eileen emigrated to newz...p... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2013
    happy birthday bob...for end oct...we were at maidenhead..day out..this yr..lovely..thames and lock..etc.....bob if you remember the wall bits..at play area..think handmade bricks 1844...ornate arch shapes in the wall..pillars design in the wall...we have 20 photos this week...cant build on your play space council says access problem...alley..but cant get access road into there..etc....think was b... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 4-Oct-2013
    I REMEMBER THE NAME OF PARSLOW THINK THEY LIVED JUST PAST PHYLLIS SO WOULD BE ABOUT NO NINE , CANT RECALL THE NAME BLAKE, NO12 THE SHANKSTERS LIVED THERE AT LEAST 2 GIRLS JEAN BEING ONE OF THEM MAYBE THERE WERE BOYS BUT CANT REME BER PHYL WILL KNOW IM SURE DOES ANY ONE REMEMBER THE LERKS FAMILY THEY LIVED IN THE CLTTAGES INTHE SCHOOL PASSAGE SIDE OF THE WHITE HEART I HAVE AN IDEA THAT THEY MOVED T... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Oct-2013
    thanks sheila

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Chris (Member 10220786) on 4-Oct-2013
    I remember the Perks family, they lived in one of the two old cottages in school passage on the right going toward High Street. Cottages long gone now. I think there were three or four Perks girls. I also knew the Shanksters, Gwen, Jean, Sheila, John, Peter and Rita. Chris x

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 4-Oct-2013
    I remember an yvonne perks and marion but there were older girls I believe, where did you live Chris? We all used to play together in Shrubbery road

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Chris (Member 10220786) on 4-Oct-2013
    Sheila I lived in Grove Terrace; Mum, Dad and Grandad had the shoe repair shop next to Janes Hanerdashery and Hurdwells Grocers. I used to play a lot in Shrubbery Road, I was friends with Janet Perks, Joyce White, Rita Shankster and Gwen and Carole Cripps....+ many more. Chris x

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 4-Oct-2013
    My parents used to use that bootmenders . You must be younger than me because the girls you played with are youger than me , did you know any of the o sullivans from Dorthory villas Alan Salvage and Derek Simpson were the boys that used to play out as well,

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Chris (Member 10220786) on 4-Oct-2013
    I remember the Sullivan's from 6 Dorothy Villas bur can't remember names! Chris x

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    back after couple days site out..sent emails sunday but probably staff Monday so today sent and up comes site..thanks to the...3 photos aec bombed badly war sept 24 1940..days before north rd school.28th.got bombed........night aec..staff escaped down their shelter at siren...6 mths.trouble there with damage caused..roof etc service..dept....so tools vehicles bad damage...

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 7-Oct-2013
    Some discussions back we were recalling shops that used to be in the Broadway etc. I have just returned from my aunt with my mother's engagement ring in its original box. She was married April 1936. The ring came from James Walker Ltd, 49 The Broadway, Southall. I now remember buying a set of silver teaspoons from there for their silver wedding anniversary. Are they still there?

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    no long gone bill..1980s 1990 or so ..gone....up towards woolworths south side.....in google.....type.....showmystreet.com...............good 2012 clear view...of shops broadway...southall......woolworths went few yrs ago.....99 pound shop now....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    my aunts married 1935 from southall....holy trinity...

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Oct-2013
    Yvonne, where are the 3 photos of the AEC bombed in 1940? I am particularly interested as my dad would have been on nightwork at that time.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    get them on now 15

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Oct-2013
    Thanks Yvonne. Just seen them.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    good lovely..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/04/a3695204.shtml

    Anderson.southall..account of war bombing southall..Heston..in google

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 7-Oct-2013
    Mention of the bomb on AEC reminds me that a large bomb fell nearby in Argyll Avenue, leaving a very large crater. Nobody killed fortunately. Friends of my parents lived in Argyll Avenue.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Oct-2013
    Thank you Yvonne for that sad, but wonderful account of the war bombing in Southall. It made me realise that living in Northcote Avenue, the other side of Southall, we hadn't experienced anything near what that young woman and her family had. It was truly heartbreaking, particularly the looting!

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    thanks Pauline...mike..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 7-Oct-2013
    Hello Sheila Iddenden - I've seen that you mention Alan Salvage as one of your old playmates. He was in my class at North Road school - a tall ruddy-complexioned boy. I also knew a girl from Shrubbery whose surname was Harrison - had a mop of curly red hair - think her dad had been in the Navy. Wonder where all our old school chums ended up, how they fared in life, what stories they could tell. S... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 7-Oct-2013
    Hello janice , I think the girl you discribe lived with her granparents there name was alsop and I think they own agarage, yes that was alan he was really nice and I think all the girls liked him do nt know where any of them are now , I am still in touch with phyl, is and pamele harman pam comes to stay with me acouple of times a yeat
    Rshe has recently moved to ruslip.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    if Harman....knows val Harman born 1949...of Harman brother..her dad.......lived near around any areas around somerset rd.....val left dormers 1966 to be secretary bbc tv centre shepherds bush red..thick hair auburn.....big Harman fmily local many many yrs...famous brewery uxbridge high st for many decades..going far back in time....the Harman brewery

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 7-Oct-2013
    No yvonne I doo nt thinkwe are talking about ths same harman family mmy friend will be older we left dormers 1952

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Oct-2013
    thanks sheila

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2013
    southall aec .fame of war work..there..the armoured vehicle..valentine...in display buck palace mall after war......visit of tank to war staff aec southall photos.15board/...male staff and kids there boys kids there at southall factory..to see tank visit.. the war..years around that time..kids age 8/9 etc.rough ages.there.................http://panzerserra.blogspot.it/2012/12/aec-mk-i-british-armo... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Oct-2013
    Thanks Yvonne will have a look at that.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2013
    yes lots there...click..15...link is at your flickr site....36...etc...several links there for you...10 etc...just click..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Oct-2013
    1956 yrs...council colour film
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWvSbHC_IA#t=142

    hayes southall border....hayes bridge..brookside willowtree...uxbridge rd..pub..buses.....cranford pk....etc...

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Oct-2013
    film has hayes end uxbridge rd trolley buses...1956 yrs..tow path canal......hayes high st woolworths..level crossing...station etc....council flower beds.designs.crests etc.............

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Oct-2013
    Yvonne.

    Thank you very much for posting that video link. A very interesting film that I had not seen before. It is interesting that there is a snatch of Charville Lane in there as it was 60 years ago. As you may remember I have said before, that is one of the oldest roads in the whole of Britain, and the bit along the top of the hill at Down BArns on the Yeading/Northolt border is a bit sti... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Oct-2013
    yes good films there.......amazing to not loose films of good memory......couple yrs now been reading down barn and sharvil..etc...lots in google...very interesting....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Oct-2013
    Yvonne

    Another good old road to trace is the one that was cut by the canal at Trumpers Crossing. It was an old drove road to London via Mattock Lane, Ealing Common. Canal building was it's death knell and enclosure of Osterley Park, but was Cranford/Heston route to Ealing and London. Must have been wonderful to have seen 200 years ago

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Oct-2013
    Interesting that "British History Online" states that "Sharvel Lane was 'out of repair' by 1504" !!

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Oct-2013
    yes have read a lot on trumpers...very good.....1802.onwards. my genealogy norwood green ...agricultural labourers etc......he married at st mary ealing rd.....census shows them going all over field tracks for work...he would have gone trumpers...to ..east....and back again...she ..was ..out there from norwood green .baptism...so walked track..before 1930..work as farm.worker or servant..ealing rd... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Oct-2013
    yes 3 yrs now have been reading brit hist on line...very good......and some maps etc there...

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Oct-2013
    Trumpers Lane Halt was the only station on the long gone GWR railway service from Southall to Brentford.
    Some years ago I went on a special train from Southall to the end of where the line still runs,organised by the GWR Preservation Society.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    was good you went.mike.........great southall society.of rail..museum .etc...yes several photos of ..station trumpers and crossing places....some books and photos of it all in google.......

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    pub signs historic heritage...image art work....1916 victory..ship image change name ..war...southall green corner east side...now hotel.....................http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=victory+pub+signs&qpvt=victory+pub+signs&FORM=IGRE

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Oct-2013
    I remember my dad telling me that the Victory pub in Southall pre 1914 was called the Kaiser Wilhelm/

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    king Prussia ..pub.called......many..yrs 1890 etc....war had to change name..1800s queen Victoria..albert.... lots germans came .England poplar docks..and//some. up to Brentford dock..new canal and into southall green....from hamburg etc areas..ship to us...gas works poplar and....gas ..southall.....workers...stokers etc....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    8 inns..pubs southall hamlet farms fields..1821.....1899 once called plough southall green..then renamed kings head..then called king Prussia..by 1914....1916 renamed victory............plough..refers ag lab..orchards etc.hay...4 farms southall green..and workhouse farm Featherstone rd..1803 to 1836 closed

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    lost pubs southall.......http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/middlesex/southall.html

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    1866 king Prussia...1 king st....1866 adams landlord.....1901 robinson..1914richmond 1916 haste change name to victory......war

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    pub southall.....http://pubshistory.com/Middlesex/Hayes/KingPrussia.shtml

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 10-Oct-2013
    Thanks Yvonne & Mike

    Actually, Trumpers Lane now ends at the site of the old "Trumpers Crossing Halt". As a kid, we always knew it as Trumpers Crossing. West of Trumpers Lane is lost now, but then the route remains as Yvonne states "Fern Lane" then off to Sipson somewhere

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    my nans dad....lived fern lane 1866 ,,yrs one of 12 kids siblings...dad ..ag labourer...gdad 1806 born local farm labourer....married harmondsworth girl..over fields for work...nans dads..brother...made it good Heston mkt gardener and greengrocer shop...photo in local hist bk..andhe was 1st Heston villae fireman...left probate...money age 71....1937......orchards...corn hay fields etc....200 yrs local people..

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Oct-2013
    abc cinema..minors song......
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzWjw7AO_Xo

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Oct-2013
    Like Keith, I enjoyed that video link you put on Yvonne of Hayes & Harlington. It was wonderful to keep getting glimpses of the time we lived there in 1954/6. As it whizzed past Woolworths in Hayes town, I remembered that the Post Office was on the opposite side, and Clayton road and Blyth road was also along there where the dear old EMI was, where we were both working. I had a strange feeling as ... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2013
    yes I used to go hayes high st ..before 1970...and yrs..woolworths and post office opposite.....tandem sounds gt...bike .you did..yes cinema.uxbridge rd became bingo saw west side story there 1965ish....yes blyth rd .emi etc...emi..part open yrs now vinyl.factory canteen..in gazette weekly,,,,,now doing restaurant students event there this week....emi .place ...

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Oct-2013
    essoldo cinema...was savoy...was classic...became bingo....photos board26.pauline.nice there...171 viewings nobody realises to put comments....some had 500 viewings and more.huge viewings click enlarge etc...flickr......but rare get nice comment pity..........http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/30167

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 17-Oct-2013
    Hi everyone and apologies, I have not been on the Southall site for some time, so have got behind with all that's been going on. My friend, Sheila Iddenden, has jogged my memory about it so have taken a look today. Re Shrubbery Road, I lived there until I married, and my mother had lived there all her life. Don't remember a Shrubbery House at all, and at the back of the houses on our side of the r... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2013
    gt to hear you phylis..best wishes to you and family..thankyou...yes grove hse and tsextensions .now 1720 built.....along north rd..entrancearea door to 1844/55..built the shrubbery hse...9 lived in it..censuses...5 insane patients..females..dr steward MD...servants...1891..jane rosser took over till she was 65 there...1894 map..it is still there..1911census....after war 1920..many servants ended ... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Oct-2013
    philis................. got 1914 post office....weedon...bunce....parslow..living the 1st old terrace built..shrubbery rd.....there 1914....bunce was caretaker north rd school many yrs...lived 1940 yrs...meadow rd the caretaker hse.....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 20-Oct-2013
    Hi Yvonne. Weedon was my mother's maiden name, and the house was originally rented by her parents. Not many people could afford to buy a house in those days. My mother was the youngest of 8, and she remained in the house when she married, and my mum and dad eventually bought it.

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Oct-2013
    lovely....1914 ..weedon there.....big families weedon local......west ave 1930 1950..number 9...west side top.........lots them..on 1911 census...southall green...1890 like many...labourers..across from yeading etc areas ..they were like many were...out to ruislip farms...200 yrs their name about locally........yes not afford buy hse..yes....rented....lodged..in with others..1928 1930s...beginning... more >>

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2013
    phyl .......nice to see names 1914 north side.3 garrett.5 stapleton..9 wood..villas is .2 king..1 kimber...shrubbery rd .15 weedon.william...17 turmbar..19 bunce .21 cossen..23 newell..27 tucker..31 parslow..33 webb..35 combley.37 Hawkins....south rd..2 tomlin..3 pont..6 holdwar..8 cooper..10 dolman..24 shrubbery rd.shipway.....laurel terrace..1 chalk..2 Morton..3 rowles..4 philpott..5 cody....

  • Re: THE SHRUBBERY by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Oct-2013
    that should say ...the south side of shrubbery rd....not south rd....so they are all living shrubbery rd here..listed 1914....and joyce ..living at the big house 9 occupants nurses etc...the shrubbery hse..1914..with next door to it...brown and sons builders............chris remembers brown..1950s...there...as with the smthy..near...today photos taken all around the back in old space of playing...... more >>

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September 3rd by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Sep-2013
I have suddenly realised that today is the anniversary of the outbreak of WW2 in 1939-well 11am to be exact.

The air raid warning went, but no signs of enemy action.

Underground air raid shelters were dug on the green opposite our house. They were seldom used, and became very smelly after a few days-Anderson shelters were issued to houses-ours promptly flooded after a f... more >>
  
  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2013
    oh dear...terrible time..remember len saying..he was out..tonys the broadway icecream.man was coming along and gave all the kids ice.cream.....my aunts got best wage pkts they ever had piece work..all hours munitions...dad and his brother.n Africa...Italy...tonys dad Italy.army...................1914 .90 yrs next yr ..bbc are planning..a large amount of items...

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2013
    Remember dad telling me about the sirens going he said it scared every one to death. also first aircraft to crash in ww11 an Avro Anson came down in the sea off Hastings the Hasings lifeboat towed it to shore where it was beached without casualtys.

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Sep-2013
    I remember it well, as if was yesterday. It was on a Sunday, and my brother Bob and I were in the playground in Spikes Bridge park. The siren went and all the kids went running home fast. My brother was on the slide and wouldn't come off. We were the only ones left in the park, and all of a sudden my father came running in to get us. I do remember he was not very pleased with Bob.When we got home ... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Sep-2013
    good thing it was not gas..thankyou.for that..it was interesting...think that high slide was there for so many yrs..

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 3-Sep-2013
    55 yrs ago yesterday morning the the aeroplane crashed in Kelvin gardens.

  • Re: September 3rd by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Sep-2013
    Yes, that plane crash was also on the fight path of the short, little used runway that flew over Perivale Maternity Hospital, South Greenford Halt, Greenford Broadway, Allenby Roadm Southall, etc.

    That Runway not used much then and now does not exist as all built on and changed at Heathrow so no more landings over Greenford, Allenby Road or SOuthall. Perivale Maternity Hospital not exist any ... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2013
    yes Perivale maternity demolished..1987ish yrs...my cousins baby born there...kates mum carol 1955 born there...yes have heard.greenford people talk..of as you say runway..those who suffer the noise etc of the huge jumbo jets and those that are lucky and not to be.direct route of noise..the gt west rd..every 2 mins.is like a runway in itself..huge planes every 2 mins..down the line of the gt west ... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Sep-2013
    Yes. that Heathrow runway closed years ago

    No landings over Greenford/Southall now but all land over Kew/Brenford etc when wind in that direction. Runway pointing to Greenford/Southall was very short and quite dangerous. But that plane would have crashed anyway as rules on overloaded planes much tougher these days.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2013
    interesting thanks keith..southall library 1st sept now is.run by private company...Carnegie library of 1890....Carnegie award was given to gibbons the 14 yr old boy who helped with the injured at the 1958 crash kelvin gdns.

  • Re: September 3rd by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Sep-2013
    Now Heathrow just has 2 runways, but looking at old 1950s/60s maps of Heathrow is interesting because you can see the old runways, and one of those points towards Southall/Greenford

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2013
    yes have dozen of the so interesting photos of old heathrow..the start..beginning yrs...lovely..to see.runway etc etc.

  • Re: September 3rd by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 4-Sep-2013
    My family lived on the flight path marked by Southall gas holder. At night the planes would switch on their lights and raise them from pointing at the ground to straight ahead. In doing so they would shine very brightly into my bedroom for an instant. I have a memory of the Brabazon flying overhead. It is strange how you can become used to aircraft, train and other noises. During the war my father... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 4-Sep-2013
    September 3rd 1939 day i was christened

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2013
    bob...bill...that's nice

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Sep-2013
    Bill you mention the landing lights on aircraft at night i wonder if you remember the piston engine aircaft of the 50s how there props disturbed the tv pictures, remember seeing the first DH Comet come into Heathrow before all the fatigue problems.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2013
    harrow Amersham..vintage steam metropolitan line trains weekend now....says London transport museum covent gdn..gt day out...

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Sep-2013
    a year this week...miss baker from uxbridge..school Ruislip...won 2 gold medals paralymp..her lovely horse...on one show now bbc1.....double gold letter box uxbridge...mbe...freedom of borough from mayor....good luckto her ..such nice girl....Olympics...London..she loved and her mum dad.did

  • Re: September 3rd by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 5-Sep-2013
    Yes I remember the old planes and the excitement about the Comet. When the wind direction was suitable the planes roared overhead very low on their approach to Heathrow. To show my age, I also remember picking blackberries by the row of cottages called Heathrow before the development of the aerodrome. My scout group had photographs of camps nearby. In later years I toured the airport runways as a ... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Sep-2013
    I dont suppose you remember the lockheed Constellation crash landing at Heathrow in the mid 1950s, at this time as plane spotters we used to roam all over the airport i dont think somehow you would get away with it today. I visited the airport about 2 yrs. ago got totaly lost took 1/2 hour to find my way out.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2013
    interesting bill.hope to hear more..

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2013
    in google....items..list .2013 new car park southall...balloons.celebration..shows gate of southall mkt...3/4 articles there millions cost new car pk..read see photos..in google

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2013
    on the old cattle mkt.high st.uxbridge rd southall opposite north rd....car pk..balloons there this week gazette...new opened cost 2.5 million.cost.asked for yr2008..long wait..attract tourism more .to tourist shops restaurants crowds southall..visitors long time now..hotels etc..

  • Re: September 3rd by shelley nelhams (Member 10257723) on 5-Sep-2013
    Hi just checked this board after some time trying to locate a ron cox for my father JIM NELHAMS an email was left but its no longer active.please can anyone contact me so I can pass on email details direct to ron cox many thanks

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2013
    we have ron email...if to give you in a secure way

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2013
    8pm have sent ron message to Australia..when he is able to see it..email just gone to him..he sees the site with your sentence here

  • Re: September 3rd by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Sep-2013
    Denis & Bill

    Yes I remember the Lockheed Constellations, the "Superconnies" and the TWA Starliners. These, the Viscounts and the Britannias were certainly the best aircraft designs and it is a pity we didn't sell more Britannias. The Vanguards came out 3 years too late. . . . . . . I was there for the only known (and surprise) visit of a Sud-Est Armagnac which I have mentioned before on the... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 5-Sep-2013
    Thank you Yvonne for the prompt.
    Shelley my E` mail is ronfcox@gmail.com
    Ron C

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Sep-2013
    she will see it here then ron..good....

  • Re: September 3rd by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Sep-2013
    Shelley-my friend of long ago was Leslie Nelhams-a lovely man

  • Re: September 3rd by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 6-Sep-2013
    It is so sad that we were at the leading edge of aviation production in those early days and then as with computers lost it all to the USA. My experience of Heathrow these days is restricted to lurking at Cranford Park waiting for a phone call to dash in and pick up family members. My trips to the airport have also given me the chance to revisit and photograph parts of Southall and to make a call ... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2013
    there is a photo of the famous wall...still there dawley..famous hse....mine worked dawley .botwell..1820 onwards..1860s moving into cranford lane Heston....farms brickfields work....1960 gazette at ealing library for turner

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2013
    lots sites in google..about the wall etc..dawley etc..in google.......http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/dawley/

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Sep-2013
    Yes Bill you are right about the loss of lead in industry after the war. I belive there was an aggrement with America that Britain would build military aircraft & America would make transport aircraft which gave the USA a head start with such aircraft as the DC3/C47 DC4/C54 the DC6 Connies & the B29 was transformed into a passeng... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Sep-2013
    Thanks for that Yvonne. Having worked at EMI it amused me that in 1911 when The Gramophone Company (later EMI)moved its headquarters to Blyth Road, it bought up all the chickens in the naighbourhood to prevent their cackling being picked up by the recording apparatus! I bet there were a few that they missed.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2013
    lovely photos board15...cattle mkt demolished become southall now new car pk..cost 2.1 million.asked for since 2008..tourists visitors.
    restaurants shops southall.many yrs now..

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Sep-2013
    Sorry "naighbourhood" should be "neighbourhood".

  • Re: September 3rd by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 7-Sep-2013
    Many thanks for the web link to Dawley in Hidden London. My grandfather's WW1 diary refers to de Salis falling off his horse and later of being wounded. I find that Jerome de Salis became an officer in the Middlesex Regiment at the age of 18 in 1914. The class system really did dictate who were officer class and he had men of 30s and 40s yrs of age under him. He was wounded in the head about Augus... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2013
    yes the print of the court is in google.....famous..dawley..uxbridge local history library closed for year...but will be great at opening..lots of archive there photos etc....for dawley Harlington hayes etc....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2013
    bill......type dawley house. .and court...in google..Middlesex...and up come..half dozen.items to click open....the famous print..1695 to 1711 of house gardens and courtyard.....also Wikipedia in google.has the print of the house..save as you can put it in your records..dawley and botwell became brickfields brickmaking using the new canal...my crowd were there...censuses st marys church book......... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 7-Sep-2013
    From Victoria County History of Middlesex:

    In 1735 Bolingbroke left England and by 1737 he was trying to sell Dawley. The eventual purchaser, Edward Stephenson, seems to have lived there for a while, but by the time Lord Uxbridge bought the property, Stephenson had a tenant, named Abraham Hume. Uxbridge used the house himself, and his successor, Lord Paget, had work done on it during his short... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2013
    that's lovely thanks colin..good read thanks

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2013
    Greenford church oldfield lane off the high st......5pm..today songs praise tv...bill turnball..hollies star sings old rugged cross..peter Howarth of the 60s group.....antique roadshow Eastbourne beach front....leslie crowther of kids crackerjack 11.15 pm itv.

  • Re: September 3rd by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 8-Sep-2013
    Many thanks for the links to information and images ref. Dawley. I must investigate further. It is very difficult to imagine Southall and the surrounding area before the canal and railway. They are physical features that have really defined the development of the area and cut across estates such as Dawley. Cranford Park has been similarly changed by the M4 etc. It is a shame that the historic cell... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2013
    have old ones of splash ..my dad family kids played there 1918 yrs....put your and slides on a flickr free site like denis sexton did...member on here ..then we can all see...on flickr.....grey lady ghost cranford 2013 Hounslow council done lots to cranford stables ..ha-ha...church there guided walks and nature talk walks.....berkeley loads in google photos etc cranford...........mine geneolgy..ba... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2013
    board15..last week gazette 30 yrs gt sales of McEwan book..all local areas southall etc

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2013
    Thats interesting songs of praise i lived round the corner from Peter Howarth he whent to the same night club i did in the 60/70/80 when i lived in Lancashire the Hollys played at the Imperial ballroom famous

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2013
    Thats interesting songs of praise i lived round the corner from Peter Howarth he whent to the same night club i did in the 60/70/80 when i lived in Lancashire the Hollys played at the Imperial ballroom famous

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2013
    Thats interesting songs of praise i lived round the corner from Peter Howarth he whent to the same night club i did in the 60/70/80 when i lived in Lancashire the Hollys played at the Imperial ballroom famous in the north for such groups as the Beatles Kinks. Dusty Springfield, & a lot of Tamla Mo town stares

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2013
    gt peter that's gt....we both liked hollies.a lot..he was good today singing on tv..that's good denis..

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Sep-2013
    Most of the Hollys came frome Pendle (Nelson) Lancashire.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2013
    my hubby from Hounslow Feltham never knew..of local hollies was suprised gt.......searchers..lead singer .in hubbys 6th form with him..Hounslow grammar springgrove..we went to see them sing lampton pk..lots west London artists...gt for west London 60s etc....thriving record buyers..clubs etc...buzzing in the 60s locally.....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Sep-2013
    http://www.traditionsofsuffolk.com/index.php?page=NLDVD35%20Donald%20Steel

    in google Suffolk man book..auctioneer back to his gdad southall horse mkt..market.royal charter from 1660s..earl jersey also gave.land ...southall one of 2 the main ones London middx markets animals...famous southall as one of only two main.ones..whole middx London...in google....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Sep-2013
    towards the end of 30mins.....3 bridges early colour film.....tv.freeview today..8.30 pm...bbc4 channel 9....rural nice green quiet area colour of old 3 bridges old film..there...and the regent canal going through the zoo..Britain on film.1 out of 10 episodes..1st one...boat show there old film at earls court...closed now becoming flats..

    series 2..messing about in boats..with ornaments of narr... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Sep-2013
    EVERYTHING is becoming flats Yvonne. Apparently, if you ask people who live in the flats where Perivale Maternity Hospital was, they'll tell you they've never heard of it, yet they live on the very site where it used to be!! . So many people have moved into the area now who have no idea at all just how lovely West Middlesex used to be in our own lifetimes!

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Sep-2013
    photos..1987/9 ish demolish Perivale my cousin daughter born there....new ealing hospital built....yes lots flats......3 horseshoes opposite southall town.hall sold..going to be new shops flat above....pub built 1914 stop then finished 1918/9.....
    .on the site of the 1850 pub...

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Sep-2013
    Thank goodness we've got some good photos of the Three Horseshoes on our Southallboards, and also on Google. That was one of the landmarks in Southall High Street, especially being on the corner opposite the Town Hall. Can still visualise "Spike" the copper hanging around outside the pub and keeping an eye on all the kids who got up to mischief! Happy days.

  • Re: September 3rd by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Sep-2013
    My old Southall friend Howard Pullen(sadly no longer with us) had his wedding reception at the Three Horshoes as I recall-mid 50's

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    local lady few weeks ago went in saw landlord manager....he had old sign swinging type..on floor back yard he gave it to her...she has in her garden....my gdad uncles would be amazed..land,mark trafficlights,..main heart crossrds of southall...it is winding down with solicitors..exchanged contracts......new car park opened this week along a bit..on old cattle mkt site.......if built 1914 100yr her... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    pub interiors porch front door etc etc 3 horseshoes scroll down couple photos...it is there....
    http://www.flickriver.com/places/United+Kingdom/England/London/Dormer%27s+Wells/search/

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    good film..google...there go the boats..by british transport films......1951...canal...so much in it...swing bridge......... spikes bridge was pre 1934

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrO6Nb3qQo&list=PLEC1784C3CE826462&index=1

    canal

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    town house pub ealing broadway....in google and photos new corner there now...it is metro bank...huge corner......originally ancient feathers pub.....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    excellent film...in google..the best...2nd half is the most.....1930s huge davies timber southall canal...bulls bridge 1930s those working...nestle..so much....dockshuge busy. barges...grand union...through southall...birmingham etc...venice London........in google ..canal boats .grand union canal 1930s..film number 8598 of Huntley archive.....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Sep-2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAJDnm30h_k&list=PLEC1784C3CE826462&index=13

    canal 1930s grand union..southall etc there

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2013
    Tap in "Images for Three Horseshoes Southall Middlesex". Also lots of photos of the pub and others.

  • Re: September 3rd by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Sep-2013
    I remember the lumber yards along the Grand Union. Really fascinating places, lovely smells of wood. Around 1960, many were as they had been 30 years earlier, full of old machinery and where the barges (a few still did in 1960) tied up

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2013
    thanks...Pauline ..keith..thanks

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Sep-2013
    All of our Southallboards are knocked out at the moment. They are working on it!

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2013
    yes all morning..in general all others also are.......but my one
    the link given...is rare nearly 10 photos interiors also...rare tiles of porch entrance area etc..parr famous pub architect..tiles of 2 fireplaces..salvage should preserve for southall ealing museum..not just sell of...or smash .stained glass etc..

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2013
    in google.....3 horseshoes....because pubs near farrier smithy....one leg being shod.....sleep..rest..on 3 legs..alternate....we saw our lovely suffolks at fete..chesnut gloss shiny...huge weight...helps rest the legs..oldest part of one 3 horseshoes pub yr1520....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2013
    its back....now.......Pauline.....in google .oldest 3 horseshoes pub in country side 1520.....named near farrier or smithy.....ours by leggetts southall.......sleep or rest 3 legs to share weight...and 3 legs down when being shod....we saw our fete suffolks beauty chesnut..on 3 legs resting.....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Sep-2013
    if you do...british pathe ...movie tone..films youtube in google....long list southall films...1935...1955...1964....all yrs....lots closeups faces kids etc...in google...events people..etc...

  • Re: September 3rd by penny (Member 10265839) on 14-Sep-2013
    Have just finished reading "Maidens' Trip" by Emma Smith which is a true account of her interview in Hayes then a wartime adventure on the Grand Union Canal between Bulls Bridge and Coventry/Birmingham. Emma Smith is now 91 but has written 2 more books about her upbringing between the two wars, then during WWII - "The Great Western Beach" and "As Green as Grass". They are fascinating for all the... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2013
    thankyou penny will have look,,,1930s film..grandunion southall hayes etc.....in google to view free.....and another one there at later yr....xxx

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2013
    thanks penny...great reads of it in google...1943 London to Birmingham and back trip...steel...coal etc..2 72 ft long narrowboats...3 18 yr old girl..join boater families..men gone to war...she wrote it fast 1948 to get money..was poor..200 pages.was 2010 bbc 4 play..can hear in iplayer...pbk £9..nice cover of 9/10 girls 1943.on barge...they had reunion..91 yrs old lady she talks of her 1st book.... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Sep-2013
    her autobiog bks...in google...go with it.well.....bucket spade newquay..dad war hero 1st war..but move Plymouth bank clerk..he went to mental trouble..she age 16...m15 Blenheim palace.but bored..joins 1943 war wk..canal.5 siblings she had.she born 1923...grass is greener bk....and gt western beach......sad love In paris..so writes 4 bks..goes india with film writing..lives Chelsea..photo of her 9... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2013
    TV last night Polish 303 squd. Northolt B.O.B very good, highest score of any squd. in the battle

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2013
    yes saw all of it very gd indeed..Northolt....their orchard pub nearby..gt poles..at memorial..huge group gather..museum over yr now at Northolt poles glass cabinets displays...

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2013
    Thanks Yvonne could not remember the local pub name they used.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2013
    yes walk or big..to...orchard pubballroom dances...behind the Ruislip high st shops..left side..west side...on the road to Ickenham..old lane...lots photos of it in google yr 1940s....

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2013
    Talking of pubs i was in Southall this morning stopped & took pics of Three Horse Shoes before it goes it looks to still be open Southall center just will not be the same. I know there ar lots of pics of it but will post anyway on my photoboard.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2013
    yes ..says landlord there open while solicitors do paper work...gd photos thanks denis will look....thanks..new tarmac car pk...along at the old cattle mkt high gate fence..entry.....new opened week ago...

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2013
    your photos gd....1948 /54///1954/8good lady marg dormers
    and guiness clock devon 1954 gt..

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Sep-2013
    Yes took a look at the new car park looks very diffrent from the Saturday market i used to go to with mum.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Sep-2013
    they had balloons mayor etc there for 1st day high gate fence.gazette photo.carpk

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Sep-2013
    Thanks for the pictures of "The Three Horseshoes" on your photostream d.sexton428 Denis. At least we've got the very last ones of this once thriving, lovely old pub. Southall won't look the same without it.

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Sep-2013
    Thanks Pauline glad you like.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Sep-2013
    thanks..and round the right south side...wall of it......large area land there................excellent tonight tv..11pm.freeview 19...ewan McGregor...battle Britain..Northolt .uxb..biggin hill...Churchill speech never field human conflict so much owed to so few...on leaving uxb bunker ops hq.then repeated in hse commons...spit hurricane huge models at Northolt..polish war memorial annual sept cer... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Sep-2013
    Forgot pic of Holy Trinity Hall for anyone who has not been in Southall for a long time d.sexton428.

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Sep-2013
    My goodness, that looks nothing like the old Holy Trinity Hall that I remember at the top of Lady Margaret road. This one looks a bit like a Mosque.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2013
    yes been mosque long time..now.....right the wall corner of 1900s town hall built.....holy trinity hall went long time ago......thanks photos denis gt..cattle mkt given charter yr 1698..2013 turned into carpk....2 main cattle animal mkts of the gt county of middx..southall was one of the main 2...1922 3 horseshoes opened...1914 war took long time..build on of war yrs .on site of old one of 1800s yrs.....

  • Re: September 3rd by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Sep-2013
    David Sextons photographs-wonderful collection Dave-agree with Pauline on Holy Trinity Hall.
    It was there when at Sunday School pre-war I misbehaved, and was made to sit in a girl's class!!

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Sep-2013
    Thanks Michael, yes remember mum telling one of the oldest charted cattle markets

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Sep-2013
    Michael somehow i dont think that would be allowed today.

  • Re: September 3rd by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 17-Sep-2013
    Just to be strictly correct Holy Trinity Hall is now a Hindu Temple not a mosque, likewise the old St John's Hall in King Street is also a Hindu Temple.

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Sep-2013
    Thanks for that Colin. I can still see St John's church in South road in my mind's eye. It always had a large Notice board in front with "God is Love" on it I think, with iron railings around it. I suppose that lovely old tree that was always there in my childhood has long gone now. There was a pub opposite (the name escapes me at present). I suppose that has also gone?

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Sep-2013
    Just remembered the pub. It was the Havelock Arms.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Sep-2013
    Havelock pub opposite now betting office.inside it...yes big brightblue board outside church.....tonight bbc1..at the end..new tricks...gt whole photos filming of whole of bankside area..southall 5 swans...gas holder in background.....row of all terraced..houses...arrested the murderer there..at his door....................also.they have filmed before oldfield lane Greenford..............

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Sep-2013
    friars lawn norwood green up for sale again..Hayley mills.lived......mr selfridge lived..1780 Georgian..mansion....goes for million..or more....8 bedrooms..tall in all old photos...new white villa built along a bit went for jan 2013..995000...the norwood hall along..was famous horticult college...is now Sikh school huge grounds..yr 1800 place....sultan brunei.windmill lane villa huge and swim pool... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 20-Sep-2013
    Pauline: It's sad to see that the tree by the church hall opposite the Havelock Arms in King Street has indeed gone, in fact the only thing there now is a type of mural in bright colours. It really is sad to see the memories of our childhood have disappeared. My husband and I were shocked to see that so much of our childhood had gone when we visited Southall last year.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2013
    kings hall closed jan.boarded..they cant afford upkeep repairs..built 1916...march they went to downing st to protest building needs to be listed preserved.....3 horseshoes solicitor dealing with...open for a while till decide who will take over the land the site..to become what...palace cinema..indoor mkt......cattle mkt closed then.sept 2013 opened as a tarmac car pk......Havelock pub.betting of... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2013
    2012 street view free in google camera van goes everywhere ...can see all..............

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2013
    2012 street view free in google camera van goes everywhere ...can see all..............

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Sep-2013
    2012 street view free in google camera van goes everywhere ...can see all................

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Sep-2013
    Jean - Thank you for the news about that lovely old tree in the grounds of St John's church. I guessed it would be gone. I last visited Southall in 2000 with my brother David, who is no longer with us. He asked me what I would like to do on my birthday, and I said I'd love to see Southall for the last time. We didn't get as far as "over the other side" of Southall. We did manage to see Northcote A... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Sep-2013
    (This bit was left off). When we glanced at where the Palace had been, I suddenly realised that our beloved Southall had indeed changed. I wouldn't have missed the trip for anything. I forgot to mention that our school alley from Dane road, through Lancaster road (past where Wimpeys was) to the back of Tudor road school, was still there, just the same as it always was! It was such a comfort.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2013
    lovely memories.....the other day just north side of spikes bridge..load noise as fish jumped out of the canal for insects..then..circling ring as went back in with a splash....bullrushes reeds up there..on the nature pond..of the old hole of the brickmaking..dug out..heron..regularily there ..pair swans..coots mallards.seagulls..cormorant...some parakeets in high mobile phone mast they have built..nest on top.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Sep-2013
    just think .all the school kids through the alleys to tudor rd school...1930s and before....and to 2013..busy alleys..and over from spikes bridge......open day southall police station today as usual...motorbikes kids get to go on..and photos out at spikes pk canal swans also..there...
    https://twitter.com/EalingMPS/media/grid

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Sep-2013
    Pauline that takes me back i used to go through the Dane Road alley to meet dad when he finished work at Wimpeys in my peddle car then race him on hes bike back through Spikes bridge Park to Lady Margaret Road.

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Sep-2013
    That's a lovely memory to have Denis. That's something no-one can take away from us all - our memories of Southall.

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Sep-2013
    Thank you Pauline thats what our Southall site is about.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Sep-2013
    9000 on the beaches...one show..dday...today..bbc 1..at 7pm...aerial shot of carve memorial in sand 9000 lost lives...see it...denis............moving

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Sep-2013

    Yes thanks Yvonne i watched it very moveing.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2013
    yes it is in gooogle..photos..of sandsculpture there huge one..then this weekend the low flat sand figuresj.9000 of them...so good..

  • Re: September 3rd by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 24-Sep-2013
    I was very sad recently to see St John's Church so run down along with the attached buildings and the Havelock Road Cemetery. I was surprised then to find this very positive web page at http://www.stjohnsouthall.org.uk . When I visited, itI was unclear whether original St John's church still had any function and the 1910 church was closed and looking very sad. I remember the hall next to the ol... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Sep-2013
    wonder where those coloured slides are now..be nice to see....yes old st john..1837 to 1909/10,,,,,too small...so new st john built 1909....www....expect that is the new st john web site...services couple photos inside bright blue.decor..etc.....seen in google........wrote to them yr ago ask what for at old st john..no reply.from them........it is closed locked up..tombs .there.but the ..hall alwa... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Sep-2013
    Bill - You mentioning crumpets reminds me that a man used to come round on a Sunday in Bankside in 1936 ringing his bell with a tray on his head, shouting "Muffins & Crumpets". I remember it quite clearly, as he used to walk right to the bottom of the road where we lived.

  • Re: September 3rd by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Sep-2013
    I remember muffin man too. He used to come down Grove Terrace. Also remember a Cockle and Winkle man.
    Chris x

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Sep-2013
    He also came down Somerset Road to Lady Margaret Road as well.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2013
    cockle winkle man also outside northcote pubs sunday lunchtimes many yrs..he brought home..for sunday tea with breadbutter....muscles whelks jellied eels..needle to get black head of winkles..vinegar.

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2013
    today have been working on northcote pub at last....re roofing..it..now..... .after fire burnt out roof so very long now....so wait see what becomes....

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2013
    denis....did you hear anything......1940 pupil st ann..now 80...said was marker plaque in the grounds...covered well spring.....said..it was the origin..of the town name hanwell.......but springfield rd....if just their spring......the main..the spring.building.....is by church rd vicarage..hermitage ,church,, bunny pk....says is the irigin ..well spring..of the name hanwell......huge flooding riv... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2013
    historian.in here link...google..says..hanwell the town had it s.....town pump..and the town well ..in st ann grounds.springwell rd....1915.hanwell..............my 1940 pupil said it was covered with plaque marker to say about well...wish had photo of it..and info.......did you hear of it denis......http://edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/river-brent-hanwell.html

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2013
    denis...another link in google......halfacre viaduct pub.uxbridge rd..nearby the....town pump well..in grounds of st ann..school..............but origin of the hamlet.of hanwell .is yr 1100 church hanwell church rd by bunny pk...hermitage ..the spring dwelling...the green hundreds yrs had pond........so well springs there..river brent meanders floods........http://www.mazefind.co.uk/cgi-bin/cms/oh... more >>

  • Re: September 3rd by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Sep-2013
    Thanks Yvonne sorry dont know anything about the plaque, but i am certain dad told me the village pump you mention is now on the Uxbridge Road next to the bus stop where the West Middx golf course hedge is, as you say this could be the start of the name Hanwell(Handwell).

  • Re: September 3rd by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Sep-2013
    yes southall water pump by bus stop..north side ..top of the dormers comlex of springdale dip....ponds..extended areas there of golf course......yes has been confirmed st ann school hanwell had the town water pump..well spring....just north of uxbridge rd...it was the town water pump..because...just north of main rd uxbridge coaches London..rd..behind the famous coach horses became viaduct..pub...... more >>

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