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GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Jul-2012
This line has always intrigued me. During the war years, I used to see freight trains going into the AEC brounds-this was from the path that wemt under the main railway, past AEC, to the canal. Evidently passenger services stopped in 1942-rumour had it that the line had been badly affcted when trams/trolley buses started to go along Boston Manor Road.In1993, I went on a train along the Brentford l... more >>   
  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jul-2012
    Trumpers Crossing is on a very ancient trackway.
    Cannot answer in full tonight but I will soon. The "old road" went to the old site buried under Heathrow. Sharvil Lane is another old trackway that I wrote about more recently and see if these threads are retrievable via searching old threads

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2012
    We are back or was it me.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jul-2012
    yes all day off..through night may be trouble...sent 6 emails to them ..been back on..hour............all knowhere sites were off....happens couple times yr....board 52.....lots photos..trumpers..station...maps ..rail trumpers...etc.......loads on penny hospital southall..photos...etc.....in chesnuts old work mens club....1940s 50s charlie.hayes .president there......at 1935 opened at featherstone rd.....

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jul-2012
    No, it wasn't you Denis. We've all been out.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jul-2012
    Ok thank you both.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Trumpers Lane in Hanwell was an "old road" and its use was curtailed by the building of the canal and the enclosing of Osterley Park. It is one of those ancient roads across open country and this one headed SW towards the old village of Heath Row and Bedfont etc. We all know how unbelievably rural this would have been only 150+ years ago. The GWR built the halt there for passengers to/from ... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Jul-2012
    Keith-Thanks very much for that highly interesting information. I presume the line must have run along the back of StBernards Hospital

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Yes. Don't forget, the line opened in 1860, so way later than the canal. There is a fair bit on Wikipedia (southall Brentford GWR branch) and a photo of Brentford Town station too. >> > > I understand there is still a train on the line once a day just as far as the Waste Disposal place just north of the Great West Road. This takes west London's rubbish to a big incinerator at a place called C... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Also, don't forget, the GWR OWNED Brentford Docks. It enabled them access to the Port Of London on their OWN tracks rather than have to go through London and thus pay to use the other companies lines pre-nationalisation. Owning Brentford Docks meant that other railway companies could not hold them to ransom. Passenger traffic on this line was almost an inconvenience.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2012
    THANKYOU both so interesting.....link of our photos etc trumpers..if it helps.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/81447106@N05/

    board 52..flickr......charvill.the hill empty spacious green belt.still green across shooting range area...some horses.. have been some cows other years.....olympic torch goes along there...from borough hillingdon to denham to borough ealing northolt park northala.then into... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2012
    only found out last bit my family tree this year..labourers norwood green southall green 1803 ..1806....but biscoe school 1770 for poor kids........must helped..brother of my gt gt.gtgrandad.....born there 1841...1860s....the new canal he had along there to brentford docks...must have heard of cance better life ..money.........he went....by brentford chiswick...apprentice,to chiswick master....got... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 8-Jul-2012
    Look at > Brentford Railway Station GWR < on wikipedia. Good 1961 photo. Look how things have changed even since then

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jul-2012
    photo trumpers our board etc...lots new things there

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Jul-2012
    Often walking along the path, over the footbrige over the Brentford line connection to the AEC factory, I used to see one of the GWR's first diesel railcars,resplendant in brown and yellow colours.Elegant looking compared to the current DMU's. I belive they used to run occasionally on the West Drayton-Staines branch

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    Hi Michael > > You need to track down a copy of the Middleton Press book I referred to earlier > I am sure it was published about year 2000, so is bound to be found easily, and still might be available from publishers. I gave my copy away but wish I hadn't. I cannot remember those AEC railcars on the Staines branch, but certainly do on the Uxbridge one. . I think there is a photo in the book.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    Mitchell, Vic; Smith, Keith (August 2000). Branch Lines of West London. Midhurst: Middleton Press. ISBN 1-901706-50-8.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    ...............AND I have just found that this exhibition is on at the Southall Railway Centre for just another week > > > > see e~mail liknk at the end of this message for details

    GWR Brentford 150 Festival Exhibition

    Published by GWR Preservation Group at 5:07 pm under GW... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    For Michael in particular

    your original question was about Trumpers Crossing. The "Old Road", once very important can be traced. Mattock Lane Ealing, gradually "south of west" so diverging further from the Uxbridge Road, it becomes Oaklands Road in Hanwell and on crossing Boston Rd, it becomes Tumpers Way. By the time the canal was cut, it had become less important and although it did cro... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Jul-2012
    Thanks very much indeed for all the info

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-Jul-2012
    Not at all Michael. . . It is more than just coincidence that the "ancient" road (Charville Lane/Sharvil Lane) and this old, but newer road, (Mattock Lane - Trumpers Way - Cranford - Heath Row), run almost parallel with each other in a vague WSW - NE direction, but the more ancient road ran along the higher ground.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Jul-2012
    I have now got the book recommended, and apert from Brentford,I was fascinated to see the West Drayton to Staines branch-used to use it lot when going fishing. Thanks for putting us on to that

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 11-Jul-2012
    Michael you mention "Often walking along the path, over the footbrige over the Brentford line connection to the AEC factory" I seem to remember in the early 60's walking along a raised path that ran beside the back of the AEC (where my Father used to work) but it is only a vague memory & I can't for the life of me remember where the path started. Do you have any further information?

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jul-2012
    Fred: If you walked along the road that ran parallel to the railway,you would come to the start of the path going of to the right, through a gloomy tunnel under the railway, then alongside AEC.It crossed the Brentford branch, ending up at the canal

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 11-Jul-2012
    Michael, The "official" GWR colours on those AEC railbuses were 'chocolate and cream'

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jul-2012
    Thanks Keith.Never travelled in one.My memories on the Staines Branch was of the "Push and Pulls."

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 12-Jul-2012
    Nor did I Michael. We only ever had push & pulls on the Greenford branch too until the diesels came in 1958. The GWR colours were always referred to as "chocolate and cream" until the early BR colours of the early/mid 50's which were known as "plum & custard". but I do remember an AEC railcar being used on the Uxbridge Vine St branch before closure.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 13-Jul-2012
    FRED, AS MICHAEL RELATED THAT THE START OF THE LANE IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREEN DRIVE AND PARK AVENUE. FROM MEMORY - AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL THERE WAS A TEA/COFFEE/SANDWICH KIOSK BUILT INTO THE END OF THE TUNNEL WHERE A.E.C. WORKERS SPENT LUNCHTIME, AS THERE WAS AN ENTRANCE TO A.E.C. OPPOSITE. THIS WAS THE WAY I WENT TO WORK AS AN A.E.C. APPRENTICE.

    WHEN STILL AT SCHOOL WE LADS WOULD WAL... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Jul-2012
    Rpn,I do not remember the kiosk. I would have trod that path before WW2 and just after

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jul-2012
    I'm afraid I don't remember it either Ron. Was this after the war? We were often going through that dark tunnel on the way to Top Locks and our 'scrumping grounds.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 13-Jul-2012
    I started at the AEC in 1947. I do not remember seeing the kiosk during our trips to the woods and scrumping ect during the war years.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jul-2012
    Thank you Michael, Ron & Pauline for filling me in on the path. I'd say that I'd only trod the path a few times but when Pauline mentioned Top Locks the mist cleared a bit & I certainly remember starting the path from that end. I didn't do any scrumping there but like all of us, I'm sure, I did scrump when the opportunity presented itself.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Jul-2012
    You're not the only one to have a mist clearing Fred. Although I can remember going through that very dark tunnel with the AEC at the side when we emerged, and then climbing up all those very wide steps to go over the bridge,I just cannot visualize anything beyond that. I know we all ended up in a farmer's orchard after scaling a barbed wire fence, but that's it. It was as much the excitement of t... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Jul-2012
    I have just been reflecing on our collective memories of that same turf we trod, and here we are reviving old memories some 65+ years later.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jul-2012
    For me it was only about 50 years ago as I'm only 62. I didn't think I'd ever be able to use the word "only" in conjunction with my age ever again, thank you Michael!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Jul-2012
    Actually just having had a birthday 6 weeks ago I'm 63.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Jul-2012
    I am 83(84 in September)-a sobering thought!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Fred Micheal im 70 next time i to trod the same turf who remembers watching locos on the turntable & A.E.Cs own shunter nr. the footbridge anyone know what happend to it

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2012
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY AS IT COMES TO YOU LADS.in google southall rail centre gwr preservation group..has loads..says they restored the unique aec deisal shunter of aec 1939 built..sheds.was southall rail museum..but google has their photos etc..annual meetings.displays..ealing library ..or office..opposite firestation ealing..or walthamstow meeting..2011 each year on google...did paris this week..first t... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Thanks Yvonne nice holiday good for you & Tony

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    Was there a turntable INSIDE the AEC factory??
    Didn't know that. Did the GWR shed at Southall have a turntable as well? Apparantly it was the last BR steam shed in the London area

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2012
    OK...150 TO 180 MPH SAYS TONY EURO STAR..GT ST PANCRAS NEW REFURBISH STATION....THEN CROOSRAIL WEST TO EAST..THROUGH SOUTHALL..TO BE...THEN...M40 ROUTE.UP TO BIRMINGHAM ETC HIGH SPEED BY2015 THEY WANT ..MIDDLESEX.CHILTERNS ETC..RAIL..THEN 2020 HIGH SPEED MANCHESTER ETC..LOADS MONEY THEY OPE FOR....DID HAYES END..MY FAMILY TREE 41 ANGEL LANE VICTORIAN TERRACE STILL THERE..ANGEL PUB ROCQUE MAP 1754.... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Yes Keith there was a turntable at the back of Southall engine shed on the A.E.C side

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Does anyone remember the code for Southall shed

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    81C

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    81A Old Oak Common
    81B Slough
    81C Southall
    I don't remember any more

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Thats it Old Oak Common being 81A

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    Thats not bad Keith after all these years

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2012
    If i remember right didnt the G.W.R run 2 gas turbine engines No 1000 & 1001 thro Southall in the mid 50s

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2012
    I think they were 18000 & 18100
    I used to train spot from Jacobs Ladder, which goes across the tracks on the Hanwell side of West Ealing station where the Greenford line splits off.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Jul-2012
    As to the AEC turntable, each Christmas in the staff canteen the AEC would hold a party for the children of the workers & Santa would distribute presents & one year amongst all sorts of other stuff they gave us a jigsaw puzzle of the AEC turntable with a train on it, marvelous. I was very sorry when Dad went to work for the SEB they didn't have Christmas parties!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2012
    NICE XMAS TREES AS WELL OUTSIDE...WINDMILL LANE AEC..several good aec sites google..society etc......old staff children of old staff..photos etc

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Jul-2012
    Denis, I have found a list: The first 3 were right and here are the others in what they called "London Area"
    81D Reading (W)
    81E Didcot
    81F Oxford

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    Thank Keith takes me back to the mid 50s loco spotting trips to Paddington for 1/1d return from Southall happy days

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    We where pulled mostly by prairie tanks if i remember

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    Yes,of the61xx class. Which we knew colloquially as "tunner one'ers"

    Can you remember any numbers for the Greenford branch pannier tanks? Also am l right that the 2 x branches from WestDrayton, (Uxb & Staines)were worked from Slough shed and not from Southall??

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    Yes Keith Tunner one ers 61x, sorry not sure about branch lines only whent to Windsor odd times mostly Paddington

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 17-Jul-2012
    Dont you mean Tanner one-ers meaning starting with 61

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jul-2012
    Sorry apelling mistake Keith

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    Yes Bob. After nationalisation, the GWR kept their 4 digit numbers because they had brass numbers on the cab sides that would have been too expensive to alter, so they kept their "61" series numbers throughout their careers even after nationalisation. The other rail companies only ever had numbers that were painted on, so it was the other regions that were required to alter theirs after nationalisation in 1948.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    Denis, you are right. But although it derived from "Tanner" because their numbers started with a 6 as in 6d, I always remember it being pronounced as "tunner" to rhyme with "one'er"

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Jul-2012
    I'm really enjoying all this railway talk, very Roy Cropperish.

    Railway carriages & old Victorian waiting rooms with gas lamps (as Southall had) had a great romance about them.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Jul-2012
    WHO is "Roy Cropper"????
    And its not 'railway talk', it's very serious stuff! As a spotter, I'd got ALL the 61xx class except ONE. And that one had been transferred from Southall shed to Kidderminster shed (85D). My parents refused to take me to Kidderminster so that I could 'cop' that one, and I've never forgotten it. . > > > I now live in a house numbered "10A". That was the shed code... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 18-Jul-2012
    Roy Cropper is a character in Corrie who is very much a train enthusiast. I thought calling it railway talk was ok.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    "Corrie"?? Is it a T V programme?
    There are railways and there was the GWR. The GWR was more than a railway. The GWR was the epitome of railways, and many people said that GWR stood for "God's Wonderful Railway". The GWR was superior to ordinary railways, the GWR was 'special' and not to be confused with "railways" per se. Now, Southall shed is no more and the whole GWR system has been... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jul-2012
    As we did Keith

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Jul-2012
    The GWR introduced Automatic Train Control(ATC) in 1906, wherby a train was stopped if it passed a red light.If this or equivalent systems had been installed on other lines,the Harrow and Wealdstone(1952) could have been avoided.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    .........and am l correct in thinking that the Southall - Brentford branch was the line where this ATC was first tested and/or first used?? Did AEC have a part in the development of this??

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jul-2012
    I remember the 1952 smash at Weldstone i think its the bigest rail crash in the uk wasent it

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    No,I'm afraid Quintinshill 1915 was bigger

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    No,I'm afraid Quintinshill 1915 was bigger

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 18-Jul-2012
    A good account of railway accidents is in "Red for Danger" by LTC Rolt

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Jul-2012
    @ Fred

    Sorry. I am probably the only person in Britain who never watches television, didn't know that Coronation Street was still running, or know who Roy Cropper is/was. I have now been 'enlightened'. Whereas most people say "You should get out more", perhaps to me they would say "you should stay in more" And I didn't know it was called "Corrie". Always learning new stuff!!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 19-Jul-2012
    Yes Keith that's the one, though your first guess 'Is it a TV programme?" was spot on.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 22-Jul-2012
    I remember there being a line to Brentford when I was a small child and my grandad worked for GWR.
    By the way Yvonne, you mention Charlie Hayes being president of the working man's club(in Featherstone Rd) I think that must have been my uncle charlie, my mums brother. His wife Betty vanished in the 1950's, do you know if she was ever found? Ive lost touch with that arm of my family.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jul-2012
    thats interesting JEAN...will look up my reading of charlie hayes......put it here..soon as can..thankyou......lovely here from you..we are just getting our lovely summer now..my australian.friend melbourne.has gone into autumn...her gdad went out 1830..early times..inhereted money and went for adventure.to sydney....your photo on 2 boards of photostream flickr.has done marvellous.north rd school.... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jul-2012
    JEAN...WHAT WAS GDAD NAME GWR,,IN GOOGLE TYPE FRANCIS FRITH PHOTOS MEMORIES...NICE LADY THERE MUST BE RELATED TO YOU......OUR PHOTOS WORKING MANS CLUB ON BOARDS 50/51/52..FLICKR.......ADDED INFO PRESIDENT FOR MANY YRS 40S 50S CHARLIE HAYES..DAUGHTER SHEIla HAYNES was maiden name hayes..ON FRITH.CHATS LOVELY OF SOUTHALL GREEN..DAD DIED 1980S..MUMS RAN OFF BOOKIE OR SERVICES MAN..SHEILA TRIED BIRKEN... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2012
    Charlie Hayes must have known my G/dad George Wyatt who was the accountant at the working mans club in the 40/50s

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Jul-2012
    yes...frith site....daughter ..says he was..president for many yrs...she lives jersey now......1912..google says work mans club started featherstone terrace.road...1900..postcard..has it ..corner chesnuts of southall hospital..1930s they gave the big house to the hospital..opened 1935 from..million.pennies collected..by southall folk..1900s work men club.1905ish opened..bought it from..a builder w... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2012
    I think some of the orchards were still at Top locks in the 50s

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jul-2012
    I think you are right about the orchards. The last ones around Hounslow/Hanworth/Hampton were grubbed out around 1960. Prime building land of course!!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Jul-2012
    I remember one orchard in the Top locks Norwood green area whent in it about 1956

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Jul-2012
    I think Brentford market closed around the same time - there was no local agriculture left to supply it. There was an interesting history of this written somewhere . A tremendous amount of agricultural produce was handled at Brentford and it had its own railway sidings. But not from the GWR Southall line but from the Southern as the market was really much nearer to Kew than Brentford. But ... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jul-2012
    Further research indicates that much of the agricultural produce from Southall/Norwood/Heston area etc did indeed go to Brentford Market, even though the market was technically nearer to Kew.
    However, the GWR line was not used in this venture, only the Southern (LSWR) who provided rail access.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 27-Jul-2012
    Thank you much for mentioning Charlie Hayes Yvonne, I followed up the Frith Link and found my cousin Sheila Hayes, who I havn't been in touch with since early 50's and we have been emailing nearly every day since. We are both so excited to have found each other again and I have been able to fill her in about things in the family she had no idea about. Even sent her a photo of my sister(deceased)... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by jean edward (Member 10247075) on 27-Jul-2012
    Yvonne,
    My Grandad's name was James Hayes, called Jim. He was with the GWR since he left school.The names James is still going thru our family, there is a Jim here in Australia!!

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    HOW WONDERFUL ..BEST WISHES TO ALL OF YOU TELL...SHEILA..JEAN THIS IS THE BEST OF THESE SIGHTS...WHEN HUGE..ADVANCE LIKE THIS....THRILLED TO BITS FOR YOU....BROTHER STILL LIVES HAYES...JUST HAD HAYES CARNIVAL BIG ANNUAL EVENT.........MY INLAW TO FAMILY..HAD SOUTHALL STATION RAIL WORKER...CAME HOME FROM 2ND WAR 1944...BACK TO WORK...BUT KILLED BETWEEN BUFFERS RAIL SOUTHALL DAVID WILLANS..BURIED..HO... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    my dad jim.all life never called james....all family and geneology branches named after family...dad james after his dads brother......nan named her son john..after her brother..he named after uncle john...back to grandad john..back to gt grandad john...born southall green 1806.......my crowd...southall northhyde..heston.norwood green.all through 1800s 1900s.....nan lost her dear son john.acres wi... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Jul-2012
    Yes, I still remember all the flags that were put out in Northcote Avenue when David Willans returned home from the war. Everyone was so upset when he died after being crushed by rail buffers. Life is very cruel sometimes.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Jul-2012
    thats nice flags on return...good road yours was.....emma his dad george would been thrilled...george died..by 1950s..emma was widow...for about15 yrs.....grandaughter who lived there still lives partner bankside southall......rail so dangerous...many accidents...but never know what frame mind he was in..dont know where what part war he was....have heard of some...deep inside cant cope for a while... more >>

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Jul-2012
    Noticed the old garage at the top Lady Marg. Rd (Elbornes in the 50s) now Tescos mini market, also talking of the A.E,C canteen we would go in and have a game of snooker and some times of an evening

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Jul-2012
    Denis,
    Your mentions of AEC reminds me that one of our next dooe neighbours worked there-My Victor Pannell.They had a son Richard, who was two years younger than me.He went to the PNEU school near Holy Trinity Church.

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 30-Jul-2012
    How old was your nans son when he died. from the fumes in the H G Sanders (The Tube)

  • Re: GWR line from Southall to Brentford by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Aug-2012
    BOB.......my nans son..my dads dear near brother...was 19...so keen to be at work...to help his mum out..she had 7 babies brought up 3 sons 3 daughters...he would have gone tube from dormers school...bike over bridge......bet he did overtime.....1936 died age 19...hillingdon hospital drained.//many pints fluid off hime when family went down dark..royal lane from uxbridge rd bus after work evening.... more >>

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PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Jun-2012
Who remembers the playground area (near the ladies toilets) in Southall Park? the WITCHES HAT roundabout; the see-saw, the HORSE, slide and the swings. I spent hours there with my dear friend Joyce from Shrubbery Road. Just along from the playground area was the Victorian Water fountain. On occasions we also used to 'try' to play tennis on the courts at 3d a session! That was when we had enou... more >>   
  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Jun-2012
    Although my memories were a little earlier Chris, I do remember the playground. We were all over there one day with my parents at some large gathering or other, and my brother Bob was on the roundabout going very fast with some other boys. Unfortunately, he came off with a bang and hit his head on the concrete ground. My father picked him up and csrried him over to a St. John's Ambulance tent whic... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Chris (Member 10220786) on 12-Jun-2012
    Oh yes, I remember the wooden shelter now! You've brought back a picture of it in my minds eye. I think it was painted cream & green. Yes, you are right, the fountain did have a cup on a chain! The fountain was not far from the entrance to the Rose Garden. I seem to remember a stage structure in the Rose Garden too. Also remember the band-stand which was not far from the wooden shelter. Chris x

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Jun-2012
    Yes, I remember the bandstand, although I only saw the band playing about twice. I know they all wore a uniform with hats, and I think it was held on a Sunday. If I remember rightly, I think there used to be several rows of seats for the adults to sit on. It wasn't our usual park, as we were up the other end of the globe!

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Jun-2012
    Yes Chirs you are right there was a stage in the rose garden i think it was removed in the early 60s

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Jun-2012
    I believe it was somewhere in that area where a V1 bomb fell in 1944-I remember it because it brought the celing down in my bedroom in North Road. I was downstairs in the Morrison Shelter.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 13-Jun-2012
    We spent many happy hours in the playground and the rest of Southall Park. The Rose Garden was somewhere we peeked in, but never allowed to play there. The Witches Hat and all the other stuff that would be banned by 'elf and safety nowadays! I remember a lady coming to the playground one day (must have been after the war)asking us to taste various varieties of Mars Bars, all cut into tiny pieces, ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jun-2012
    I well remember that night Phyl when the bomb dropped in Southall Park. It was 3rd July 1944 (just checked in "Ealing, Acton & Southall at War"). My dad was just getting ready to do his night shift at AEC when our child minder arrived and said she coudn't look after us that night for some reason or other. I was on my own with my younger brother in the shelter. My mum was convalescing and the other... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2012
    THANKYOU SUCH GOOD DESCRIPTION AS ALWAYS..SCARY....PROBABLY THE BOMB WAS WANTING AEC..WAR WORK THERE...TODAY SUCH TECHNOLOGY PRECISION.BOMBING.......BUT EVEN WITH OUR PHOTOBOARD OF THE AEC IN GERMAN WRITING.german .MAP.aerial photos..OF WHERE aec WAS ....but BOMB BAY NAZI HAD TO JUST HOPE .couple bombs went on asylum...GREENFORD ALSO ETC...BOMBS FALLING..OFF THE MARK......factories..they tried for... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jun-2012
    Thinking about that night in 1944, we were already out of the shelter, as I remember we were watching a dogfight going on in the sky overhead, and that's how we saw all the earth flying up in next door's garden at the bottom of West Avenue when the bomb dropped.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Jun-2012
    Mum,Dad, and I were in the Morrison shelter when the V1 dropped. Mum rushed upstairs, came down again and woke my father and said "The celings down in Michael's bedromm." He said" can't do anything tonight", and promptly went to sleep again! Mum was not amused, and nagged him for days!

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2012
    my cousin born 1936 march..so he was..8 at 1944 night in shelter garden...west ave..with all the adults..but gdad built shelter but never went down it refused .had his own bed but insisted they all went down to spiders etc..across the road..cousins 9 and 7 yrs old were down shelter.. their dad italy north africa army away at war..but due back 1944 wounded......women doing munitions piece work shif... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 13-Jun-2012
    Fancy you remembering about the Mars bars Phyllis. I got into trouble as well for accepting them. We must have been together .We did spend alot of time in the park.
    I also remember the night the bomb fell in the park ,My gran and I were in the middle room downstairs. we ended up cover in soot and as phyllis says all the front windows were blown out in Shrubbery road, there were bits of brick etc... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Chris (Member 10220786) on 13-Jun-2012
    It was me who mentioned my dear friend Joyce from Shrubbery Road; yes Joyce White. I am still in touch with Joyce. We were 'friends' before we were born! Our Mum's were pregnant at the same time. Joyce is just a few months older than me. We were in the same class throughout school - Infants, Juniors & Senior. Joyce even introduced me to my husband....we have been married 48 years! I used to... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jun-2012
    no cars west ave either 1950s etc....all bikes...they used to slog it over southall station bridge..rush hour...so many going to old southall green factories jobs...lots bikes....no cars so uxbridge road buses were..so well used by everybody to west ealing ealing broadway and shepherds bush....so we played hop scotch pavement......dash across road..down to spikes bridge park.to swings etc..never s... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 14-Jun-2012
    Chris, we must all have played together in Shrubbery Rd. Sheila and myself were "best friends". We remember the Shanksters, Perks family, and how about Audrey King, Alan Selvidge, Brian Jones, Michael Rose, all the Lorna Bonomy, O'Sullivans, and more.... We had happy days despite the war. After all, that was normal life to us, as most of us had never known anything different.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 14-Jun-2012
    My piano teacher lived in Shrubbery Road(Miss Feys). Didn't Mavis Cripps live in Shrubbery Road?

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 14-Jun-2012
    Yes Mavis cripps lived in Shrubbery rd just along by phyllis, she was a little older that us.We also used to play with the children that lived in north road , sheila rose joyce kimmins and one or two boys one was freddie lovelock. it nice to hear that you are still in touch with Joyce,

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 14-Jun-2012
    I wonder if the Mavis Cripps you talk about here is my Aunty Mavis (May) Cripps who married my Uncle Shamus Gough and they lived in Williams Rd off Regina Rd. She had brother Stan, if that's any help.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 15-Jun-2012
    Yes, Fred, that's the same lady. There was a brother called Stan, who I think married a German girl after the war, which caused a lot of "teeth sucking" at the time. I recall she was a very nice girl and I know my mother always got on well with her. The Cripps were a big family and the grandmother was Aggie.
    I don't remember Miss Fey the piano teacher, as that was before my time, but I often hear... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-Jun-2012
    Yes Aunty May died about 2 years ago I think. She was a very jolly person though I did not spend a lot of time with her but she certainly knew how to sort Uncle Shamus out & they were a very happy couple.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Jun-2012
    Fred-so sorry to hear of the passing of Mavis.I can still see her in my minds eye-we would have been~16.(I will be 84 in September)

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 15-Jun-2012
    Iwas sorry to hear that Mavis had passed away, but we tend to forget that we are all getting pass our sell by date,

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Jun-2012
    Oh, we don't Sheila, we just hope for the best and keep taking the tablets ho ho!!

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2012
    NICE PHOTOS SOUTHALL GRAMMAR...IN.GOOGLE....THOUGHT OF THE 50TH BIRTHDAY ..ONE BELOW HERE......in google.........but.then will also be on friends reunited.....google type southall grammar school pics,,,,,...........1952 intake..harman....COULD BE RELATIVE OF MY VAL HARMAN BORN 1949 LIVED BY SOMERSET RD ..I THINK.......lots pupils there cakebread,,,,,not notice 1970s pupils...there..but contact the... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Jun-2012
    Phyl Hutnell- what was your maiden name-hope you don't mind me asking.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Jun-2012
    SHE MAY NOT NOTICE..WHEN CHATTED TO HER.LOTS HER JOB CHURCH.BUSY..SCARBROW..SHE HAS MENTIONED FEW TIMES HERE..HER GDAD MY GDAD NEIGHBOURS NORWOOD GREEN 1914 YEARS....TODAY TIMES..TORCH...HAYES,CRANE PUB NORTHHYDE RD.1.43 PM..UXBRIDGE HIGH ST.CARNIVAL FLOATS.......THEN TO UXBRIDGE LIDO.NEARBY...BE THERE 4PM.,,,..THEN NEXT. DENHAM..WESTERN AVE..NORTHOLA PK..LADY MARG..EVENING PARTY ARRIVES WALPOLE P... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jun-2012
    Thats good news be later, try to get pics between Ascot & Somerset.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Jun-2012
    My eye has just caught the name Scarbrow in Yvonne's entry. There was a Doris Scarbrow in my class at North Road. Some time back I did have some correspondence with some members of the family-can't remember who,but there was no news of Doris

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    DENIS SAYS ..5 PM..NORTHALA PK.goes afterwards lady marg.bbc.london 2012..MIKE..SO PLEASED..THOUGHT YOU KNEW...YES WHEN PHYLIS GETS CHANCE SHE WILL SEE..NORTH AVE.SHRUBBERY ETC..COUSINS AND HER BROTHER..ETC......LOTS LUCKY PHOTOS FOUND SOUTHALLBOARD51@YAHOO.CO.UK..FASCINATING TO SEE..TOWN HALL HIGH ST BROADWAY..KING ST THROUGH DECADES.rare photos.......white swan.nice one for fred....child pool so... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Jun-2012
    I think Scarbow was a local name to west Middlesex. I've never heard of it anywhere else

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jun-2012
    Thanks Yvonne.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    ok denis..such coincidence.lady marg again 1948 2012..wow..fireworks party ealing broadway pk...evening..keith..photo .1938 hanwell broadway..belisha beacon install..zebra crossing...sainsbury..corner.hanwell broadway..........on flickr..southallboard51@yahoo.co.uk..with also 4 engravings of 1845 viaduct and iron bridge..1845 people under bridge gwr,steam train,,waiting for oxford rd uxbridge rd.c... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    bbc tv another series..living through time..house clothes etc..tuesdays..turn back time..grif rys jones..good series bbc tv..on computer also..lost routes..around the country...very good...24 june...vintage bus day greenline..owners..annual....uxb pinner..ruislip..harrow..yeadiing.....at ruislip lido..98 ..and 211..free rides.....because today it is H13 and e7.modern buses....other photos on displ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2012
    keith..if of interest YOUR.hanwell..southall west ealing..post office directory free in google...type...historical directories.click.....arrow to middlesex..fact file..click......then click..private residents.....renting..places....alphabetical order surnames names...................also section streets in alphabetical order...............fred stephen scarbrow 8woodbine cottage.mine were 13...1914... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Olympic torch Peterborough tomorow.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    good they are gt items tall of flame.67 day relay...10 miles from everybody..........midday today....live tv..82 /80/channels...82 ooo poppies lancaster over green pk.piccadily....factory tucked under hill richomnd by bus stop from ealing 65.....top hill star garter closed special 4 smaller places now.....5 tornadoes fly past.....amaze well done..bronze huge statue..portland stone..canada sent ro... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Sorry misread its next Tuesday in P/boro

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Remember Star & garter across from ice rink

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    huge up top of hill...by entrance richmond pk.1920 queen mary..done gt job all these yrs..went in there for couple yrs..staff gt..closed now 4 new places opened elsewhere...they hope to make it back to hotel, again...gt famous view bend thames painted by turner...poets...such beauty..

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2012
    Wasnt it the poppy factory across the river from the ice rink also was it Turner who painted a Southall windmill.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 28-Jun-2012
    Yes, it was JMW Turner's painting of Southall Windmill.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    YES SEVERAL OF IT ON GOOGLE...ON OUR PHOTOBOARD..HEARD FEW WEEKS AGO .on tv his style...HE LIVED ON HOUSEBOAT THAMES..he loved water and the sky..born covent garden..working class....lived houseboatBRENTFORD...SEVERAL PAINTINGs,,.....THEN UP WINDMILL LANE 1805 THEY ARE NOT SURE....1810 THEY SAY IT IS NO LONGER ON MAPS....BY 3 BRIDGES...google has....few yrs ago..was christie sale..bought by london... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2012
    dilys..denis..everybody you will be surprised how many photos.southall etc....in google...easy.....guildhall collage....images photos....enter southall....loads...then..ealing ..has more southall etc...hanwell..greenford....etc....before 1970 they must have come to capture..times gone by before changes too much...lma..archive london.....western rd king stregina rd..etc lady marg.dormers..high st..... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 29-Jun-2012
    Hi everyone. Sorry for the delay in replying to the question about my maiden name and the Scarbrow name. Yes, that was my name. My Dad was one of eight, and originally came from Norwood Green - Woodbine Cottages along N/G Road. Doris Scarbrow was my cousin, daughter of my Uncle Charles. They lived in North Avenue, and I knew Pat best, as she was about 18 months older than me, whereas Doris was qui... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    HAPPY birth day..to your brother.......nice photos board52..norwood green..king st..sweet shop by north rd school..the grange..pre 1970.....also easy in google.........guildhallcollage........southall...heston...etc..........st marys norwood green.old ones......vine cottage ..norwood rd..tentlow........bulls bridge rd.all cottages...

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Jun-2012
    Thanks for Southallboard52 Yvonne. The best photo for me was the one of the Midland Bank on the corner of Regina road and King Street Southall. It brought back all the times we walked down Regina road to get to North Hyde Lane when we lived there for a short time. It was quite a long walk to my mum's then when my daughter was in a big pram and we walked from Southall station. That was when we were... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    yes that is a long walk from bank..king st regina rd..and yes loads walking from the station....glad you liked photos...denis...several on aviary on there now......sultan brunei..place.................2 open front wet fish shops..the old holy trinity hall at top of lady marg...quite selection broadway high st through the decades...west ealing...prefabs..dormers rise..numbers of each and the parade... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Jun-2012
    Phyl:Thanks for the interesting resume' of the Scarbrow family. I am 83(84 in September), so guess Doris is/was about my age

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Jun-2012
    Is the famous Turner windmill painting still in existence? If it is, does anyone know where it is kept? Was the windmill there after the 3 bridges came into being?

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    YEAR AGO READ LOTS IN GOOGLE.......1805 1807 PAINTING THEY ARE NOT SURE..OILS....1795 GRANDJUNCTION...CANAL..WINDMILL BRIDGE...1837/8 RAILWAY///THEN BRENTFORD LINE........GOOGLE SAYS....CHRISTIES LONDON SOLD IT FEW YRS AGO TO LONDON WEALTHY MAN..ROBBERY STOLEN FROM HIS PLACE...........ASKED NAT GALLERY ASKED CHRISTIE,,,,,THEY SAID SALE......BUT TO PRIVATE BUYER SECRET,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SHOULD BE EALIN... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Jun-2012
    Thanks Yvonne

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2012
    wikipedia...has it 1810...seen all dates...wikipedia..says usa copyright at moment........so could be last bought by usa person.private ..if gallery they would say for visit and enjoy....historical import...ealing librarian of 30yrs there..local hist dept might know more..........artistic licence near of lock to bridge .mill nearby.east side..no asylum then.....3 gt pictures...windmill bridge winc... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jul-2012
    Just looked at Southallboard50 what a nice walk down memory lane. theres even a picture of the 50s bus conductors ticket rack i talked of on here sometime ago.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2012
    glad you got it..yes couple of old bus ticket...conductors...and.board51 and 52...lots memory lane...half dozen of aviary etc..111 lady marg built 1929......so gradual.wait for longest road in southall....

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Jul-2012
    My dad was a bus conductor,retiring in 1954. For some years he was on the 120.Pre-war he was on the 17 which then went from Southall to(I think) London Bridge. In his last years he was on the single decker which went from Ealing Broadway to Greenford and Ruslip(Lido during summer months.)

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2012
    thats nice the 120.....now northolt tube station...lady marg rd to heston hounslow..still small bus eal broad greenford to ruislip..sundays lido,,....not boating swim lido now..more bird sanctuary ,swans coots mallards egyptian geese ..gulls..swifts house martin..get soft soil swoop insects..wood lands train.hoots away...rare bread cattle.horns..in field......but cormorant heron at canal.fast flow... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Jul-2012
    Michael, it was the 17 that ran from Southall Garage to London Bridge in pre-war days. It was cut back to save petrol in the war as it duplicated the trolleybus route (6O7) as far as Shep Bush. Then the single deck route from Greenford to Ruislip was the 211 and stayed until 1968. It was called the "old man's route" because those conductors had an easier life not having to climb stairs all da... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Jul-2012
    My dad was on the 120's during the early years of WW2. He was on early turn the morning after the bomb fell on Barrat's shoe shop. Evidently there were shoes scattered all over South Road. It was only later that he learned of the tragic deaths of the Purcell sisters.
    Later in the war, he was on the 55's. One night the bus was coming through Acton late at night.They ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Jul-2012
    Michael, Was your Dad one of those who retired in 1964 when the 211 went from single to double deck for 4 years, before becoming the E1?. . . . Going back to the 17, it started from Southall Garage, but in those days it was called Hanwell garage as the trolleybuses were kept at Hanwell "depot". The name was changed to "Southall Garage" in about 1951 as before the war as that part of the Uxbr Rd ... more >>

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Jul-2012
    Keith, dad retired in 1954. You are right, he was put on the 211 to finish his years without having to climb stairs.

  • Re: PLAYGROUND AREA SOUTHALL PARK EARLY 1950's by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Jul-2012
    Michael. . . .The 211 was a sort of "reward". An easy route for drivers with light buses and easy schedules, and no stairs for conductors, but full pay nonetheless - the same pay as if they were driving heavy double deck buses through central London.

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Evergreen magazine by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Jun-2012
I have been looking through this little book and found some really funny little ditties. - "to write with a broken pencil is pointless" - "a will is a dead giveaway" - "a boiled egg is hard to beat" - "he had a photographic memory which was never developed". I thought these were well put.   
  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Jun-2012
    I have just found another one, thought you might like it, "Talking to myself is not a source of aggravation, for it's the only time I get a decent conversation!!!"

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2012
    you say eggs...reminds so many.......egg on face..which comes first chicken or egg..cant make omlette without breaking eggs...hes a good egg.........clever egghead.......walking on egg shells....brave little soldiers dunk bread fingers in boiled egg.......egg shell paint...........they open..left side buck palace..displays..like..royal family faberge eggs...is beautiful inside..displays.............. more >>

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Jun-2012
    Talking about eggs - I often wondered where the expression came from "She always tried to egg him on!"

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 7-Jun-2012
    I came across this Pauline,

    Meaning
    To egg someone on is to encourage them and urge them forward.... more >>

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jun-2012
    Thanks for that Fred - very interesting, specially the translation of Horace. It's good to know where the word derived from all those years ago.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Jun-2012
    Yes wasn't Horace the bane of Billy Bunter's life? Him & Latin declensions.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jun-2012
    I knew bits about Billy Bunter, but didn't read the Magnet. Horace Hacker (referred to as "the Acid drop").

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Jun-2012
    I don't think he liked The Acid Drop but he was also frigthened as they all were by the translation of Horace. I remember Dennis Norden recalling how one of the pupils, Hurree Ramjet Singh was always saying "Oh the awfulness is terrific.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Jun-2012
    I don't know about any of that Fred, but when Dennis Norden was mentioned, who I really liked, I wondered if he is still alive. He would be 90 now, as he was born in 1922! He had such a dry sense of humour. I hope he is still with us.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Jun-2012
    From what I can gather Pauline, he's still alive at 90. Though I liked the work of Frank Muir on My Word the stories of Dennis were always the funniest.

  • Re: Evergreen magazine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2012
    yes ok 1922 born..tv know them comedy..with frank muir..liked him call my bluff....they were take it from here....sad the tv awards and theatrical...tv shows when they show all those passed away.as tribute..so familiar to us..such gt entertainment...radio.4 extra is good..showing repeats of the best..digital radio or 708 freeview tv sound...

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Diamond Jubilee by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-May-2012
The queens Diamond Jubilee celebrations remind me of celebrating the Silver Jubilee of King George V with a class party at North Road school in 1935.-in the huts as I recall   
  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 26-May-2012
    Does anyone know if Jubilee Park was named for George V Silver Jubilee? Having lived in a house about 300 metres from there, I can say that the houses round about looked like they were built in the 30s so I wouldn't think it was for any of Victoria's Jubilees

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-May-2012
    Fred from North Road & Shackelton

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-May-2012
    to the Ruislip road was built in the 30s sorry for the disjointed message

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-May-2012
    Hi Fred. I've just tapped into Google "Jubilee Park. Which King or Queen was it named after", and it says that Ealing Council purchaed a site of over 12 acres of former farmland to create Jubilee Park and Jubilee Gardens, named for King George V's Silver Jubilee. There is some more about it if you tap into Google. Cheers!

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2012
    thats nice pauline.....the library and health centre added later..........colin gave us google..transations newsletters of 1960s..southall local history society members....they typed long list of southall names origins...all roads north and old south part southall.....very patriotic.......durdans play fields by canal lady marg..for.1936 at death of king george .metal gates plaque stone pillars...s... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2012
    couple ...very...rare...photos of ...lady marg..1930s waiting for lengthening..to go north.....library.photos shows empty space...row houses cut short by shakleton hall...north rd...library open evenings and sundays.....JOSIE..who lived local there all her life...told us..old lady lived in dwelling just there...and they could not ..continue build lady marg rd..to go north...she refused for years t... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2012
    board 50 page 5......1932 map...southall...empty spaces....all areas lady marg.......many brickfields farm areas for decades......only ..parks ...........are southall pk....the rec at mansell mornington rd greenford and ravenor park of farm at greenford.greenford cemetery green......yeading brook swoops ..along canal at spikes bridge area...brickfields...open apaces...before roads rows houses buil... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2012
    this week gazette.........first page says queen expressed her pleasure local papers for community.......today gates writes usual memories..has aec.southall.1967 photo of chelsea pensioners.on an ole bill bus top..red tunics so good in high pyramid chelsea flower show..1973 aec..photo 25 may 1979 closed demolished 1981..100yrs aec.at newark event now...by the society..routemaster 1950 1st 1959..of ... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-May-2012
    Yvonne what day does the Gazette come out please

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2012
    wednesdays.........have seen lots of the articles in google over the months.......james gates does retro most weeks...whole pages photos of all..parts southall hayes ealing hanwell......google says ealing gazette..for southall etc...greenford all have editions...

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-May-2012
    Thank you must get it next time im down.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2012
    plenty still about on the friday and saturday end of the week...supermarkets etc.......just read april one on google...sid james ealing house gunnesbury ..retro.april.article..and 24 may..gazette...friday cornwall flame..kids ealing hospital released 250 balloons..label...one that found furthest gets prize......we thought was ufo...ha..ha.....silver foil...ages across sky..like the space station g... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jun-2012
    R.A.F Uxbridge to become retirement homes

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Jun-2012
    What an end to the place with many historical associations.TE Lawence(Lawrence of Arabia) joined the RAF in 1922 and was at Uxbridge under the name of Ross.
    I did National Service in the RAF 1946-1948. At Easter in 1948, I was taken ill at home(a tummy bug !), and my mother sent for an MO from Uxbridge. I had to go to Uxbridge to be signed off, thus once trod that historical turf.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2012
    yes....they have saved hq bunker..battle brit ops...museum open to public.......google has ..large acres ground there,,,,,general housing...and a home .etc...things there...huge site.at uxbridge........raf northolt been refurbished.....lots photos on google..dozen of typhoons there of olympics.....new buildings.....hangers...helicopters queens flight.......huge model of hurricane and spitfire memo... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Jun-2012
    I wonder if any British Monarch has ever visited Southall? I know of course that the Duke of Edinburgh visited the AEC in the 50s, my Dad was there and walked next to him at one point but does anyone have any knowledge of a Monarch's visit?

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2012
    photos on our boards and year visited....queen.hayes high st and brunel university........charles camilla southall green....famous restaurant there.........diana southall green the restaurant,,,,,and care centre...photos our boards...ealing broadway queen to open new modern shop centre,,,,I was there.1985...............they have been to local mosques...tv ..shows film of them...queen stocking feet... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2012
    remember now..seeing..comment...princess anne princess royal...visited...cornfirms article in google...feb 14 2007/8...open new centre...loads new sports..drama arts centres etc opened there over yrs........george 6th funeral train my aunt saw come through for windsor at southall bridge......great to see steam train battersea bridge.for diamond pageant yesterday...on video.......hoot hoot of steam... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2012
    nice in google...aec earls court exhibition.pathe news film...duke kent visit hanwell garage..1940.....flickr photo s.aec...duke edinburgh on cover.aec may1957.26nov1957.and park royal visits....colin gave us meads accounts..has philip visit....1958 1st quads of southall...norwood green 1958 mrs philips...like photos our board........lamb won bat 1958...southall rev harrison,s SON..got george cro... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2012
    pop group madness...sing.our house from the middle of our street...from top buck palace.concert/////ha.........elton...from pinner middx.local........cliff etc....beacons have started new zealand for round the world..seems 261 world tour visits..gt video of windsor castle horses diamond event....horses music dance around the world....amazing....small world the queen..has..as we have seen..since wa... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by roy mcclean (Member 10250673) on 4-Jun-2012
    how do i find board 50 on flickr.i e images of shackleton hall ect

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2012
    it is recent photo shackleton hall.the now modern building of.brick unit...centre.....noting like the old 1950s hut....but several photos board 50 and back all the boards general.........www.flickr.com.........................then southallboard50.........then password...middlesex50...............several boards are in google.....as index...so put in southall location..etc...and up comes ..our photo boards.............

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Jun-2012
    meant type in ....ID as................southallboard50@yahoo.co.uk.........

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Jun-2012
    Reading between the lines then Yvonne, are you saying that no reigning monarch has visited Southall? Hayes, yes but Southall no.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 4-Jun-2012
    Henry V111 is reported to have planted a tree at the Manor House Southall?

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 5-Jun-2012
    You're right Ronald, I do remember reading about that.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jun-2012
    mulberry tree..I think...twice king george queen mary greenford..top of allenby rd .ruislip rd photo driving on our board..opening..new house estate ferrymead..greenford..by ravenor pk..and they went to lyons..greenford also..queen..and rest of royal family often by polish war memorial..western ave....using northolt airport queens flight...........edward 8th when prince wales.pathe news film.visit... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 6-Jun-2012
    Ged and I have been watching the celebrations on UK TV, and it has been wonderful, it's something we we will never see again in our lifetime, great atmosphere.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2012
    it was good...wonder if they will do something for 70th......st pauls cost gt deal to clean outside inside..over 300 yrs pollution.about 3 yrs scaffolding...lovely bells..went in last easter...mosaics..etc so beautiful...whisper gallery went up as a teenager...white portland stone..music choir accoustics so good....................be gt to see concert ike that again..victoria memorial................ more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Jun-2012
    looking up the steam train battersea bridge.....solihull ..princess elizabeth of 1933....our southall steam train museum.....but birmingham.warwickshire 6201 p eliz..jubilee tour.£75 ticket.was at hounslow and isleworth...chiltern line..oxford bucks..to olympia kensington....as queen arrived brotannia barge to go to gloriana...train.shrill salute..black.steam.......videos in you tube..and daily t... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2012
    jubilee...gift ..from ancestry to anybody..in google....free 1911 census....have got some mine clarence st white st..west end rd by beaconsfield pub..norwood green queen s rd...etc..north hyde..the common...gt to see my ones.....pages of census 2nd april original images..gt to see,,,,,,and marriages births to 2004...deaths.....some there...uxb..and eal...and brentford reg district...view whole ent... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jun-2012
    Thanks for the free Ancestry information Yvonne. Have passed it on to my family who will make use of it.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2012
    good pauline.....1st good weather day just back from canal rivers...young swans ducks.lots growth green everywhere.birds..........yesterday hours of free...original images...free.till monday...1st time ever seen this lot.....wonderful surprise...did..emma..opposite you...knew my uncle swam canal all life.....1914 born..53 clarence st..NEVER KNEW BEFORE..1911 census emma 24...george and charlie bor... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jun-2012
    How lovely to find Emma lived in Clarence Street Southall. I do remember her often sitting by the wooden gate in their front garden in Northcote Avenue, as she lived next door to my friend Mauvine Stevens. She would ask me how my mother was when she was away convalescing. She must have worked hard as there were a lot of them in that family.

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jun-2012
    those roads were such long roads.2 up 2 down terraced..old southall..green..so many families lived and changed hands over the years..60..think was cleo lane..she was great last night bbc2 and bbc9..great programmes...she sang london pride...great pub songs london were sung..we know so well....130..clarence my nans family lived and waltham....keeping all my research for some months.jigsaw puzzle it... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Jun-2012
    You mentioning the repeat of "Call the Midwife" Yvonne, made me think about the late fifties when I had my first child. I can't remember one time when there was anyone smoking cigarettes in the Ante-natal clinic. I do remember however, that while one person was getting dressed in a cubicle, that another person would be shoved in to start undressing! One practice I do remember was that we always ha... more >>

  • Re: Diamond Jubilee by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jun-2012
    yes remember at home.west ave when they laughed chatted about finding a bottle...mobile vans today in supermarket shopping car parks.for different clinics...clever system..g in door..shuts next door along..and clever each goes through get changed etc....ha...I cried at midwife again ..ha..so well acted....xmas special has been filmed..then new series starts...more stories of life ..needed..times g... more >>

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Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Jo Mitchard (Member 10274037) on 23-May-2012
Hi, My husband Mark Mitchard is 50 in a few months and im trying to find some school football pictures of him.
I think he lived in Westbury Avenue (he left here in about 1979/1980)
I know he went to Southall Grammar. He used to play football for/at Southall and was a semi pro at Arsenal when he was 14? 1976 time?? If anyone has or knows anyone who has any pictures I would be most grateful. Thanks
  
  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 27-May-2012
    Have you tried Are you an old face from Southall on Facebook. Lots of people around his age on that,and I'm sure many that remember him.I will send an invite to him on Facebook.

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 27-May-2012
    ps. I am his mums cousin.

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 28-May-2012
    I have sent an invite to Mark for Are you an old face from Southall. Hope this helps you.

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Jo Mitchard (Member 10274037) on 18-Jun-2012
    Hi Dilys, I know he has now contacted you through Facebook, I have not told him about this site as Im trying to get photos and information without him knowing for a project im doing for his birthday.
    I'll check out the facebook site and see if I can find some pictures. Thanks again. Jo

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2012
    school football photos.....if..site in google......friends reunited......school sites there.......general footbal....gazettes......public libraries keep ..gazettes..photos etc.............and try the football clubs archives

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2012
    the school is now called villiers high school....if the library there has archive photos or lists names..booklets on...football....ealing library local history library...london w5..........has school rolls....any southall schools..past archive records also..........grammar had reunion...there at the school ...old students ..turned up during the yrs 2000 ..reunions for for ...far back students..the... more >>

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Jo Mitchard (Member 10274037) on 21-Aug-2012
    Thanks Yvonne thats really helpful.

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Karen Connolly (Member 10214339) on 22-Aug-2012
    Hi

    I was at Southall Grammar and, although a couple of years older, I still have copies of the school magazine "Recess" - I will look through them and see if there is any mention of Mark - especially if he was a footballer!

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Aug-2012
    FOR MARK ETC..... ealing local hist library southall....is email...on google jonathan oates 30yrs librarian there...bound to have school and football....items.....photos etc etc...there in general......

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Aug-2012
    FRIENDS REUNITED SITE IN GOOGLE.....photos...sport and football kids 1950s....russell hatch brennan woodward..keen douet..cope......cakebread..field..sacklyn..holloway...machette..atkinson..1950s s grammar...

  • Re: Mark Mitchard, Westbury Avenue by Jo Mitchard (Member 10274037) on 10-Oct-2012
    Thanks Karen.

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Norwood Green Junior School by Alan Sabey (Member 10273716) on 12-May-2012
Some time ago I heard there had been reunions. I was there from 1947 to 1953 and still live in the area. I would be glad to hear from anyone else from those years.   
  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-May-2012
    friends reunited.free site.....under the schools have details of when they have reunions.......or in touch with the school they might let you know.....dormers school southall..were very helpful in reply about visit etc.....july every year saturday fete village green norwood green.locals meet..cup tea etc.....best wishes..photos of norwood green through the years.canal and ..all.areas are always lovely.....

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-May-2012
    OUR PHOTOS NORWOOD GREEN POPULAR...SOUTHALLBOARD50 ETC....AND MAPS .MENAGERIE AVIARY SULTAN BRUNAI..HOUSE SWIM POOL..OPPOSITE SPORTS..WARREN FARM......HIGH WALL BEND IN WINDMILL LANE......1900S HEAD POSTMASTER SOUTHALL LIVED HIGH STREET NEXT TO REDLION..DIED POVERTY...PAINTED RARE EXOTIC BIRDS EARL JERSEY AVIARY...IN BRITISH MUSEUM NOW................BEST WISHES AUSTRALIA..... AND ENGLAND ...OF.DE... more >>

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 21-May-2012
    Is there a meeting this year on Norwood Green Yvonne

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-May-2012
    phylis.......will know.................every year residents norwood green do a village fete....think it goes back 50/60 yrs now..or so.......

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by penny (Member 10265839) on 22-May-2012
    I believe Marilyn Sharland went to this school in the 50s and later to Southall Grammar. Lived in Windmill Lane, liked horses and ballroom dancing.

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-May-2012
    best wishes penny...............still cant get the schools etc on friends reunited.......used to be so easy fast ..before they changed it so radically...........wish they would put it back.....saw in google 75 yrs ..2011 gazette said norwood green residents village day fete...nice photos and canal etc on our boards...........norwood green videos in google...has london ..ng...2010 karate film aren... more >>

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by Phyl Hutnell (Member 10234816) on 22-May-2012
    Hello Yvonne and everyone who contributes to the site. Norwood Green Village Day will be on Saturday, 14th July this year. If you wish, Yvonne, I can keep a table reserved at the St Mary's Tea Tent on the Green for you and anyone who wishes to meet up there, as in previous years. It opens about 11am/12 noon and goes through until 5pm. The Church will be open all afternoon and will be decorated as ... more >>

  • Re: Norwood Green Junior School by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-May-2012
    thankyou phyl................if you get people on site who live...at possiblity........or can do july....if they reply here.....then ...table...but all can use tables easily.it seems........if you dont get people reply to you.....that they can go....most live..distance..etc..............most unable to go.it seems...........very kind of you phylis...best wishes................long video of 2010 mar... more >>

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1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-May-2012
on tv ..kids 6/7 yrs..school..council estates etc...continue..tv..follows the kids..mondays for 3 weeks,,itv 1...one east end became taxi driver..heathrow found he was picking up class mate who.had become..higher class..they went had coffee chat......nature or nurture..environmental..or genes....little girl 1956 said she was going to work woolworths.boy said going to be astronaut....featherstone o... more >>   
  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-May-2012
    I have just found from the 1911 census that my Gdad & Gmother where living at 4 Claermont Villers Western Road they had been married a year he is shown as a warehouse clark, this would be at the Maypole

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-May-2012
    so good we have 1911..now...they say 1921 will be late..in coming out...last week found my nans other side...we had her gt gdad as born southall green norwood green church 1806 born..lived all censuses...but now have his wife......baptished in phylis church 1803 16 feb....mary virgin norwood green..mum eliz sarah dad tom payne......charlotte so when she widowed age 52...then 91 yrs old...she was e... more >>

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-May-2012
    1958 advert pages..southall and waxlow telephone numbers......modern electrics,vacume etc..112 broadway.......55 king st.hardy radio tv..........34 high st galham electrical........joe moore haulage removals 65 oswald rd........pamela fashion 88 the green......277 allenby rd hollidge radio tv......64 king st norwood farm dairies.......embassy cleaners..5 north parade.............wood hobby etc sho... more >>

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-May-2012
    Origins Gdad Houndslow 1888 & Gmother Eastcote 1877, Clearmont villas now demolished but across from Flexmans coach garage

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-May-2012
    I still have some tools i bought from Woods in South Road, remember buying Elivs Presleys L.P Loving You from Musickraft aged 13

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-May-2012
    THATS GD..REMEMBER SHOPS.............EASTCOTE YES..RURAL...........MANY MOVED INTO SOUTHALL..1800S FROM YEADING..BOTWELL..WESTERLY AREAS......ETC...GROWING SOUTHALL JOBS FACTORIES RAIL CANAL...AND DENSE ROWS TERRACED HOUSES.........NEW TOWN..from tiny hamlet.......LIKE THE NEW TOWNS DEVELOPED LIKE AFTER THE WAR...

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-May-2012
    radio 4.....daily......morpurgo.....childhood.............colonel bogey whistle..when the war is over hitler is dead....he hopes to go heaven crown upon his head..lord said no.......only room for churchill cheeri cheeri .oh..........westminster abbey jubilee special next thurs pm tv.....julia still on..excellent outdoors with hampster.......queen richmond park today......jubilee tour................. more >>

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-May-2012
    Remember in the 50s tv closed down an hour on Sunday evenings for church

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 15-May-2012
    Do you remember what time they closed down Dennis? Just curious. I was only born 1950 so memories earlier than 1955 are a bit vague to say the least. I do remember the "Interludes" whereby, for some technical reason I suppose, you'd just get a film of someone on a pottery wheel making a vase.

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    think some of those interludes are on google with the little tune..yes potters wheel......etc.....break down yes..gap in continuity.......end of night something..or other...family had 1st tv 1958...think itv came in 1957ish commercial....they did not have bbc on....so there were lots adverts jingles etc......only 6 pm news and evening couple hours...and that was all really 1st couple yrs they had ... more >>

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-May-2012
    Fred certain ITV started 1956 think first ad. was for Murry Mints, yes potters wheel there where others, was another a windmill, BBC. always closed down Sunday evenings about 6 to 7.30 if i remember

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    too goog to hurry mints..and all those toothpaste..ads...................best wishes...middlesex day today...16 may..county middx..flag 3 swords....red...............county.middlesex.all across london........but..london boroughs..greater london...comes in..so ealing w5....w3..w13..hanwell w7...

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-May-2012
    Happy

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-May-2012
    Happy Middx day i still have my school reports with the three swords on the front, yes Gibbs SR Mcleans. Robinsons squash Daz tide washing powders

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    huge event saturday...at windsor .....military....fly past ..historic..etc....diamond jubilee but sat may19

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-May-2012
    Sounds good a bit far tho

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    bbc 1.tv saturday..10.30 am......11 am..7typhoons fly over..12.30 approx..78 planes..fly....lancaster spit..vc10.tornados.hawks.toscanos.helicopters.red arrows..2500 troops through windsor town then pk.navy etc.....royal family....marquee.....same as other jubilees including queen vic..had military tribute.................13 may last weekend windsor ..be on tv later ..song and 450 horses...show...... more >>

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-May-2012
    Mention of old TV adverts reminds me of one for Armours Beans. A man in a suit came up to the screen and cried "Armours Beans are so, so tasty."
    A recent one for Heinz Baked Beans.
    Children's voices sang:
    " Heinz Baked Beans are good for your heart,
    "Eat too many and they make you-"
    The song finished there!

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-May-2012
    When my two daughters were very young, my husband used to make them laugh when he sang "A million housewives every day lift up their hairy legs and say "Beans means Heinz". They all did a dance together, and had me in fits of laughter as well! Happy dsys!

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-May-2012
    I couldn't remember what the correct advert was, so here it is: "A million housewives every day pick up a tin of beans and say "Beans meanz Heinz."

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    thats.it.............sometimes they put an old jingle..on..now...at the tv..along side..the new........couple photos on our board a while ago heinz...by the canal.....some twyman acton canal photos.......

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-May-2012
    Denis-was the Daz advert the one that rabbited on about the "true blue whitener."

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-May-2012
    Michael not sure about the rabbit but do remember the tins & table mats that Daz gave away in the 1960s

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    give aways....jam badge..salt pepper pot black bowler hatman.....petrol garage..kellogs.cereal didh.....xmas tree decorations..also there......greenshield stamps co op stamps..gift...wembley had huge store change books stamps gift..

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-May-2012
    Mum had a Robertson Golly broach not the done thing now, also a tiger in your tank with a tigers tail to tie to your car, Birds custard gave father xmas jugs

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    esso petrol.....tony had esso tea shirt his dad gave him as kid...had it for donkeys yrs....tiger on the front...had a set of large number esso garage..olympic posters..all yrs..all countries...........did huge display at school...it lasted few months disappeared off wall.......never saw them again..1980...............1908 1948..on bbc2 tv programme tonight was good...small ration olympic team...c... more >>

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-May-2012
    Denis, your mention of the Tiger's tail made me have a look in the drawer in my hall where all sorts of peculiar items lurk. I couldn't believe it when I pulled out a Tiger's tail - didn't even know it was still in there! I thought I'd thrown that away years ago. I've put it back! It was never tied on to our cars though.

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2012
    amaze in drawer.......yellow.AA badge on car......could stop off road to hastings get new AA handbook.new road maps inside...get free town street maps ....routes etc in post..from fanum house....but now....different..... but do house calls etc.....

  • Re: 1956 and years.....and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-May-2012
    formation....60 shape ..planes..windsor....saturday...tv....................olympic torch 5.15 today ..tv........starts............battersea bridge...formation 1000 boats...pageant...gloriana.queen barge..heads to..tower bridge...all disperse..off by butler wharf st katherine dock...tall ships sail.........those that are too tall to be under london bridge......line banks.....east of tower bridge..... more >>

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The White Swan by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 3-May-2012
Hi All

Very interested, Yvonne, to see the picture of The White Swan on Southallboard50 it was not only my family's traditional watering hole (as Grannie & Grandad lived at 77 Norwood Rd) but in the very left hand corner of the photo you can see the end wall of the house of Tony Mercer who starred in the Black & White Minstrels Show, I was friends with his son, also Tony, who I met through tenp... more >>
  
  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2012
    we went late 60s to see minstrels at victoria palace.london..was gt show my aunt had the LPs ..never missed the tv shows.....yes swan looks good..many yrs now been indian religious place.......len spoke of it there...pub goes back through yrs..on big corner there...poplar cottages..other corner 1900s...then ledger shop coffee rooms....old king st..black dog pub closed about 7 yrs ago..irish..now r... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 3-May-2012
    I used to play drums in the White Swan around 1956-8 at weekends,with Ralph the pianist. the manager at the time was Mr & Mrs Manester.Great Pub.

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2012
    google has....tony mercer..toured gt deal...died age 51...heart failure...july 14.1973.....he took the death of his son badly.then had bad investments..and lost a lot of money.....born birmingham 1922.went to school there,,pye bank........his singing mates missed him badly.......george mitchell.of minstrels.obituary on google......1960s tv shows...gt success.....wikipedia.has some..famous people..... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by sheila iddenden (Member 10235498) on 3-May-2012
    I remember the white swan very well my aunt lived in victoria road and if we went to tea on a sunday. all the adults went for a drink after tea , and my cousin and i would sit outside in the lean to outside the salon bar with a lemonade and a packet of crisp or an arrowroot biscuit, I was nt the only child outside I think this was normal for a lot of families .i was nt left for long but it seemed ... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-May-2012
    very best wishes sheila lovely to hear you...yes large those arrowroot biscuits...the decades ..kids outside pub..with bottle pop..and..something to eat.........now so many pubs restaurant pubs and kids inside....with kids size meals...plough north rd still open..with the green and the telephone box.......plough norwood green still open...photos....our photoboard......

  • Re: The White Swan by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-May-2012
    It is very sad to think that young Tony Mercer died early. He was so full of life and quite the joker and a very good bowler.

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-May-2012
    it is very sad about his son......and then himself young age 51.....several well known people you hear of tragedy....best wishes may day bank holiday everybody............tried to remember ..seems 1978..monday day off given ..1974 new yr day given off......we had whitsun and easter..might be cotton dress sandles....if manor hse gardens,,or bus to kew gardens.....but seems chilly...ne er cast a cl... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by thompson (Member 10241148) on 5-May-2012
    With regards to Tony Mercer Jn. my cousin Roy Rowbottom played in the same Ten Pin Bowling Team, which Tony senior sponsored. They were quite good in the league. Think they had black and white shirts?

    My memories of the Southall Bowl was seeing Sid James and his wife with another famous actor Sid Taffner and wife. Strange that in years to come my first wife was to make dresses for Mrs James.

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-May-2012
    bowling went to furniture shop...now lidl supermkt..still the steps up to entrance ..for queue pictures and saturday mornings,,red airship over wembley arch stadium..cup final.gt views from central line tube....gt day out greenwick..ocean war ship..new cutty sark..very splendid indeed..new maritime museum back extension....equestrian stands up in pk for olympics...canary wharf light railway gt.str... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 5-May-2012
    Yes I remember Roy Rowbottom and thank you for reminding me about the black & white shirts the team wore, I couldn't have remembered them for all the tea in China but as soon as I read it I could see them in my mind's eye as if it was yesterday. I also remember the actor Sidney Tafler.

  • Re: The White Swan by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-May-2012
    New pics on Flicker Bunny park. bulls bridge ect. d.sexton 428.

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2012
    yes good one..trumper way ..st .ann's school...hanwell......gazette had fox got a wallaby at bunny pk zoo..few months ago......often a person there at entrance desk zoo..........my photos 1953..hot sunny sunday afternoon..walk from prefabs..ice cream at cafe......kings castles...in google..lots southall society steam rail museum..at southall station good train photos shed etc...thanks...greenford... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-May-2012
    Could not find ice house

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2012
    oh...google said used to be somewhere along..fom off st mary church...the brent lodge..gentry house would have had it off in the grounds..montague think his name was..good photo st ann in google..geograph.1901 opened... now severe learning difficulty school....site of history hanwell carnival.1925 .1934 photos...scoutts war memorial yes....tony been looking site..raf northolt olympic role..in goog... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-May-2012
    Just been looking at news thread of Typhoons training at Northholt, i seem to remember ice house nr. church but 54/55 yrs ago must have another look.

  • Re: The White Swan by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-May-2012
    There are several web pages on Bunny park tap in Bunny park Hanwell Middx

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-May-2012
    thanks yes will look bunny pk....we went 5 yrs ago new maze..etc...hermitage your thsatched photo goes back many yrs...yes..typooons...bulls bridge..yes huge tesco in front of it now,,,,,,,wildlife whisper.co.uk....simon king..his birds webcam in nest feeding...and charing.cross hospital.high ledge...just off hammersmith..usual peregrin falcon.2 white babies feeding...ice hse might have been fille... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-May-2012
    white swan......................have you seen all photos of it...1954 swan and corner..sandeman lorry...D Barnett shop..along..tommy ayres and fair.behind along.......can put it again on front board50 if you want.....kumar comedy coming back..new scripts..now living in hounslow..granny and family........basher comedy her husband lived 1960 above launderette fish chip shop heston..as you go into cr... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 9-May-2012
    Wow Yvonne, you have mentioned Belisha Beacons

    I had forgotten them, they were everywhere but have been replaced everywhere by more modern crossings. . How innocent things were back in the 60's !! . . Cars stopped at a Belisha Beacon if you were on the crossing, but now everyone has to wait for full blown traffic lights to operate before you can get across the road, or you can begin to drive ... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by penny (Member 10265839) on 22-May-2012
    Had forgotten all about Roy Rowbottom! He was a boyfriend when I was 14/15 years old. He lived on the corner of Brent Road? by the canal and opposite where there was a little cafe for the bus drivers of nos. 105 and 38 from Hayes. We both went to Southall Grammar.

  • Re: The White Swan by penny (Member 10265839) on 22-May-2012
    Talking about Roy Rowbottom, does anyone remember Barrie Mead? Same age, born 1947, same school - Southall Grammar. Very sporty, loved football. Had an elder brother Keith. Lived at 32 Leamington Road.

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-May-2012
    took some photos corner brent rd now.......garage corner mot etc....junction pub....and west side there 105 bus stop....by new primary school.......featherstone.primary..with war memorial front at fence.......western rd..going up to king st......................canal quiet..swans..the common..and photos of the rec on our boards...........old oak tree pub says closed nov 2011....dad born along ther... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-May-2012
    mr thompson............of rowbottom...was able to tell him...my family acres west ave..near east ave..greenford ave...knew his rowbottom family well....all using northcote pub.....most worked together at one time...................penny...you may not have seen bottom entry short page..reply to your mead request.........reunion photos at southall grammar on our boards.....cake with school crest col... more >>

  • Re: The White Swan by penny (Member 10265839) on 23-May-2012
    Pauline- can't find the reference to Barrie Mead- have looked everywhere. Can't really properly find my way round this website. Would anyone mind repeating it under this heading?

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-May-2012
    penny.................on short page......the one you put ..about 3...askings of mead..........towards bottom page.......you have mead....and there is a final reply to you there.............up top this page.......click small mauve...word southall.......and it sends you to the short single page...scroll down near bottom.......let us know if no luck.......best wishes.........

  • Re: The White Swan by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-May-2012
    Penny, although Yvonne has already told you about the reply to your query about Barrie Mead, the only reply I can find is the one from your friend Jean Kirby which you answered on 23rd February 2012. I clicked on "Who remembers Barrie Mead" on the Short page, and it took me to the sheet where you and Jean Kirby contacted one another. I'm probably poking my nose in, as usual, but hope it helps!

  • Re: The White Swan by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-May-2012
    YES....SEVERAL PLACES..THERE.. MEAD REQUEST.....down bottom....last request..reply ..to penny....reply ...15 march to penny.....if she knows...thanks........lovely pictures board50 and 49.........best wishes

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Sperry's by Paul Kentish (Member 10270722) on 1-May-2012
I have just found a Sperry's Social Club medal for Lionel Kentish - 'Delves Cup 1950 Cricket'. Does that mean anything to anyone at all...Zeta I know you said you worked there; any thoughts?

FYI - Lionel's had another minor stroke, so I haven't been able to chat about all the info from everybody on this site yet. Hope to in the next few weeks.
Cheers,
Paul.
  
  • Re: Sperry's by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 5-May-2012
    So sorry to hear about your Dad Paul and hope that he is recovering well. I didn't use the Sperry Social Club so I can't help you on that one.

  • Re: Sperry's by Paul Kentish (Member 10270722) on 5-May-2012
    Thanks Zeta - and thanks for the comments re: Dad. It's pretty awful to see how he's become...

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SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Apr-2012
Have just looked at our Southallboard50, and I was so excited to see many of my previous schoolmates, some of whom were in my class at Southall Grammar school when I was there for my two brief years in 1943-45. Jean Lethbridge was the first girl I noticed. She and I were the only two people to turn up outside The Palace in Southall, in the pouring lane, to visit Kew Gardens. The rest of the class ... more >>   
  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Apr-2012
    Sorry, "fourties" should be "forties".

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2012
    so pleased southall county ..grammar,,was not sure exact yr....gt ...head boy girl etc...uniform..etc..teachers..governors...clifton rd also there...ealing library has southall schools rolls...books..log...etc...great your names..wonderful..............

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Apr-2012
    Thank you so much Yvonne. You couldn't have pleased me with anything better.

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2012
    did not think be lucky..your names...stroke of luck...................lady lived near greenford grammar 1948..olympic contestants lodged in school for cheapness...our member said she got autograpphs watched training spikes pk..1948..wembley white city near.....magic bullet..antibiotics...miracle cure so often from beginning...1970 worked at beechams medical library brentford gt west rd.several dif... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Apr-2012
    Thinking about it Yvonne, when I started at the school in 1943 it was called Southall County School. I remembered because I was the only one on our Council estate in Northcote Avenue to go there, and some of the boys living there used to call me "County cad". Happy days.

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2012
    yes long time history southall county.....stupid .kids..they should not.......but glad your other family.....went ..extrememly well done...war...around yrs ..etc....very well done indeed..proud of...............dormers..not great memories my 6 yrs there..couple good things but..........tony myself kept touch with my librarian english teacher to her passing.she was wonderful......she was liverpool ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2012
    Yet another list of SGS (Recess 1948). One new name was Pauline Nickson who lived near Denbys, the sweet shop in Northcote Avenue. She was an exceptionally bright girl. I often wondered where she ended up. I almost quivered when I saw the name of Miss Rochester, the Latin teacher. She was quite a formidable character, and I'm afraid from the time I told her I thought Latin was a dead language, whe... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2012
    seen that name nickson before.....southall........wonder if it was friends reunited...................saw teacher ill.......glad your david kept in touch with .teacher.....we did till 1990s..my one...she had drawer full of gilbert sullivan photos scripts.productions school she did at ours....life was her students......3 children.private school hammersmith.but widowed age 52 ish...son head executi... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2012
    Yes Yvonne. Pauline Nickson. I think you put something on our Site from someone who knew Ella Nickson (I think it was), and I knew Pauline Nickson, who was in my class. My sister also knew Ella Nickson who used to give her lots of coloured ribbons. I know you jogged my memory when you mentioned that Mrs Nickson, a dressmaker, had some problem with one of her eyes, which I had forgotten. They were ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2012
    my goodness satin silky slippery ribbons in hair..easy fall out..loose ...ha........more yrs ago than today and slides ..keep hair out of eyes....kids bad eyesight sat at front class.........yes remember now nickson.........and kids pull pig tails...ha....still cant use friends reunite....yet used it quickly weekly.for 2yrs....so quick use all main ..sections.......tony will help me look on quiet ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-May-2012
    Latin: "Latin is a language,dead as dead can be.
    It killed the ancient Romans
    And now it's killing me."

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-May-2012
    We used to use hair grips when we were very young, but for some reason or other my sister Jennifer used to have two lovely plaits. I used to plait her hair at times, and I loved doing it, but as you say the ribbons did used to fall out. I expect that's why Ella gave the spare ribbons to Jennifer.

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-May-2012
    can remember on site...our phylis....talking..of her ringlets.north rd school....I had plaits.....but thats about it...........cut fringe...or pudding basin around the back...no D.A........ha.......cost of mens haircut today let alone womens hair....ha....our headmistress was of old school and..very 20s 30s school marm dress...she was near retire.....she taught us chaucer....gt medieval...accent l... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL GRAMMAR SCHOOL 1947-48 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-May-2012
    1941....years.....freeview 10 tv channel....housewife.49......with victoria wood.....the sets....costume acting so marvellous.....blitz..boiler suits...boys away at war age 21.......women working all places.....hair is extraodinary......shelter...village hall made good use of.photos board50 also good.typhoon nearly sitting on road ruislip road..by runway.northolt airport and shinook helicopters...... more >>

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friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Apr-2012
just had reply from fr...only had time to write to them yesterday.........they say survey people wanted.change.....told them do survey now...see how many of the millions members like.it..bet millions did not reply to survey.........tried 6 times cant use it...was so quick...used all 6 main parts..the best parts......so quickly easy...cant find use it now.......denis mike pauline fred....have told ... more >>   
  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Apr-2012
    Thanks Yvonne well said i have tried cant make head or tail, brill before why dont they just leave things alone, change for the sake of changs

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Apr-2012
    they said they go with some new young people wanting....but have sent 3 emails...told them ..majority members cant use......unless fred able to ok....or anybody.....tony massive busy no chance ask him....if quiet summer day later he will look at it........told them to put it back...do survey ask if majority want put back...........it was perfect easy site..photos everything..................6 good... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Apr-2012
    just got reply in 10mins...they are putting feedback on site soon..to see...but members dont see find feedback..still members will not be able..say...they must have lost lots..many the majority they must have lost...told them...but...said to them urgent put back..but..........said we need excellent good site format back again urgently told them..but...

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Apr-2012
    Cutty Sark open again this week brill.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Apr-2012
    yes queen duke open it wednesday.tomorrow.be on 82 ..80..news tv live programmes freeview..looks great..interior etc...tea ceylon..fastest clipper built clyde...wool from oz....gt suspend.....days out from middx tube to greenwich are gt free picnic lunch........get suntan..great expanse thames there....boat trips gt.....wood and shine..brand new looks great was very old when we went inside 80s...b... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    PHYLIS.............everybody the descendent of abenethies..store west ealing just sending me all photos...lovely to see the large shop front etc.....1954 the 75th anniversery booklet,,,,,,etc....in google gt to see several dozen photos queen ..gloria gold leaf barge..richmond made ..left isleworth riverside...up by west side greenwich.......cutty gt..yroyal borough now..and new exhibit in museum..... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Apr-2012
    bbc tv the one show..7pm.had nostalgic........tv theme tunes...back in yrs.............so nice................let alone jingles of tv adverts.............expressions.......tony said ..stair rods of rain....my goodness....black clouds 40 mph winds......couple hrs....fast moving..black sky....tried everywhere to see if huge fire...but no dont think so...

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 28-Apr-2012
    Just remembered > Who was told to "Scram" when we were kids?. . . Don't hear that word any more

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Apr-2012
    O

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Apr-2012
    O buzz off

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 28-Apr-2012
    Buzz off-or something like it!

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Apr-2012
    perhaps some came from the 40s 50s comics or reading....dont wolf it down..whatever floats your boat..........to go dutch.......................some seem couple hundred yrs old....and some a lot more yrs....dutch or brits supremacy of the sea....back origins...perhaps dutch up the thames at medway....victory..as was told recently with greenwich and cutty sark...lots new photos..board50 etc....west... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Apr-2012
    "Push off", "beat it" and "Scarper" aren't heard much now. My dear old Dutch (wife) Dutch uncle, and dutch courage. Where do they come from?

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Apr-2012
    a lot come from the services over long yrs back.........dutch courage........1700s dutch and english ruled the waves..etc..................dutch..had habit tot rum..to men..for courage......dutch barge sail by bulls bridge on our photos...........THE..dutch canal norwood green..south east corner.along row elm trees along norwood heston rd..at the green......filled in 1929...1970s dutch elm disease... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2012
    Rare....photos....board 50...............white swan.pub.whole area there.............king st..........maypole monsted gas lamps...tall thin chimney.......gas lamp middle rd .new town hall 3 horseshoes.........card 4 photos called peeps of southall...............old st johns.covered in ivy....lots clear grave stones.......southall rail......norwood green rare photos pond canal.....woodbine cottages... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 29-Apr-2012
    Hi Pauline

    I've always thought that 'floats your boat' is an Americanism and very modern, I certainly never heard it till about the 90's at least. Does anyone else have any knowledge on it.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Apr-2012
    I'm afraid I can't tell you Fred as it wasn't my input. It's not an expression that I've heard much. Funny though, as it hasn't stopped raining here for ages!!

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Apr-2012
    I texted my sister this morning and said "it waa blowing like the clappers last night". Then I thought...where did that come from?

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Apr-2012
    Pauline-here it's raining cats and dogs!

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2012
    when cats away mice will play...warms the cockles of your heart..watever comes around goes around.what will be will be .as doris sang...we use here...does that ring a bell......................pigs fly...apparently clappers stock rabbits....go like clappers very fast or rain......................whole dept oxford english dictionary..test out years before enter..into dictionary..20 volumes of it we... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 29-Apr-2012
    whatever floats your boat

    This is a phrase that often means whatever "soothes your soul" or whatever "works best" Aka- Whatever you feel like doing.
    So Amir what do you feel like doing tonight? Whatever floats your boat man.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2012
    WEATHER SO OFTEN..ne er cast clout till may be out....they said not leave coat off..vest etc...cotton dress they often said easter but.....truer word never spoke.....wireless expressions catch phrases...turned out nice now...etc......colourful language........

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Apr-2012
    I remember when one of my brothers hadn't washed his neck properly being told it was "as black as Newgate's knocker". Didn't realise at the time it was referring to the prison!

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Apr-2012
    Dad used to say, rain before seven shine before eleven

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Apr-2012
    Also, fine before elven

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 29-Apr-2012
    It's simply bucketing down outside, coming down like stair rods. Whoever's doing that rain dance, please stop!

    My mother used to say black as Nuggetts knocker and it was years before I realised she meant Newgate's knocker.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Apr-2012
    Does anyone remember being prescribed "Brown Medicine"?? As a child, the doctor always prescribed "brown medicine" that then had to be made up by Boots or another chemist. It was the worst tasting foulest tate that l have ever experienced. I'll never know what it was - it didn't have a proprietory name, but it tasted disgusting

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2012
    tony said stair rods yesterday...unusual that you get expressions from him..mum being scottish...but my cockney crowd west ave....often..nookers knocker.....saw in google others slurred it like that.....who do you think he is lord roff child...local lord rothchild posh gunnesbury...stone the crows....glad it was colourful yrs ago..less now...old times regional think helped..google says nuggetts wa... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Apr-2012
    Typhoons at Northolt for Olimpics

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2012
    yes gazette...not to catch fire hedge taken out....new special yellow fence...jet blas proof...training of typhoons.now...sea king helicopters as well.....hurricane model at new entrance spit model at a40 side.......red sky night shepherds delight..so often goes nice warm now after bad weather...on the turn of a sixpence.....pinch punch 1st month tues...no returns...ha......photos nice board50..........

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 29-Apr-2012
    Antiques roadshow a lady had the olympic torch her father carried from Dorking to London 1948 wonder if this is the torch i saw value £6000

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Apr-2012
    thats interesting...seen the factory where they make so many these new ones..they look gt.........man says heathrow had temporary fence like this blast one....replace hedge afterwards.....birds like nest

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Apr-2012
    It's funny how sayings change meanings in different countries e.g. In England if you say "it goes like a bomb' in relation to a car you'd mean it went very fast but in Australia a "bomb" is an absolute heap of a car.

    Similarly, though not a saying, in England apparently to pass your driving test one must be able to reverse around a corner and in Australia it is completely illegal to reverse around a corner.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2012
    thats interesting...and usa...careful things..different meaning...let alone europe..when in rome do as romans do......colourful.....and the rural...farms...labourers saying go back donkeys years as do the navy ones........

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 30-Apr-2012
    Keith : I think the 'brown medicine' you mentioned might have been M&B, one of the first antibiotics called M&B after the firm that made it, May & Baker. I remember it as a brownish-pink thick liquid and the bottle had to be shaken well before taking, tasted awful.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 30-Apr-2012
    I wonder was it Senega & Ammonia? That is certainly brown & does stink & is very good for coughs, it's the first thing I reach for when I have a cough.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Apr-2012
    Janice, I think the brown medicine l was force fed was well before the word antibiotics had been invented. I am going back to the early 50's, and I was forced to drink this by the glassful. YUK!!

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Apr-2012
    Keith antibiotics came out in WW2.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Apr-2012
    Yes, you're quite right Denis about antibiotics. I don't remember having any brown liquid, but I do remember taking M&B tablets, which were Pencillin, in the 1940's, and they weren't very pleasant to take.

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2012
    google senega is brown..for coughs......also pharmacist..j collins browns mixture bottle.medium size,,,for cough..brown.peppermint..morphine...from huddersfield up north......famous life saver for 2nd war fleming.had accident found mould.st marys paddington...antibiotic.he did may baker.tablets.dagenham.and glaxo took on............churchill took may baker .....bad heart trouble war... and it save... more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Apr-2012
    One of our class had his lungs drained thro tubes in his back into buckets had quit large holes after

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Apr-2012
    yes 50s he would survive.....drain and antibiotics also...gets lungs......better......magic bullet ..miracle..so grateful to fleming and everybody........most people died before.......drip fed.urgency..antibiotic...suspension..liquid....pills etc....kids doses.....specialised.....reduce side effects.....my uncle west ave 1st plastic valve heart st mary paddington..huge scare...all around body........ more >>

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-May-2012
    Yes, I remember now, and "Senega" sounds familiar from nearly 60 years ago. . Thank you

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-May-2012
    M&B tablets were not Penicillin, but an early example of the sulphonamide class of drug.
    Winston Churchill in one of his speeches in the run up to the 1945 General Election Election, referred somewhat sarcastically to M&B not depicting "Morrison and Bevan."

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-May-2012
    Before the advent of antibiotics on the battlefield U.S. GIs carried a pack of Sulphilamide powder to sprinkle on open wounds

  • Re: friends reunited streets southall schools jobs etc by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-May-2012
    thanks denis mike...long process to refine .fleming.mould...beechams pharmaceuticals gt west rd.brentford.our room of doctors and officers...I filed the..research work..dosage,,,suspension fluid for children.side effects...years and gradual development...magic bullet..kill the infections..and clean..oral or external..courier used to arrive emergency weekly for our spare supply to help hospital when they ran low...

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ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
Well, I told you I would make this Pudding Fred from Roy's recipe, which I did. The first one was okay, but was too milky, and wouldn't have fed four. I made that one in a Pyrex dish. However, not to be defeated, I made another one today in an enamel dish, but soaked the rice first, as I used to do, and increased the rice to 50g (2 ounces). Result wonderful. A really delicious rice pudding. Also a... more >>   
  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    they say enamel dishes can sometimes cook well..good...skin is my favourite..knob butter added..in cooking....perhaps bit nutmeg....my aunt and tony..like it cold best............

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Apr-2012
    I seem to remember egg and chips followed by rice pudding when we were small, not every day of course! My mother used to make huge dishes of the stuff as well as good old bread pudding. Can't have done us any harm, all three of us are in our seventies now.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    Do I remember that wonderful bread pudding Janice. You knew it had been made as soon as you set foot in the door, as the smell greeted you. I made it for years for all the family. I won't make it now as I'd eat too much of it. Don't make chips now but do sauteed potatoes occasionally. Keep some frozen ones in the freezer. Oh those wonderful days of all the steamed puddings and pies!

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Apr-2012
    We all have to accept those WERE the days. We didn't ever realise that one day they would only be in our memories. Look at this map
    http://london1872.com/stanford42.htm

    1872 and there were market gardens all around Putney!! Wormwood Scrubs, etc all completely open countryside. Just imagine how rural Hanwell Southall Heston Uxbridge were then!!

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    cobbett country side..rural packhorses his rural rides book,turnpike rds..labourers in fields..industrial coming....on country file bbc1 tv repeated night of wednesday........good map keith..was looking at some last week...good to click the square and close up views.............1872..triangle of shepherds bush....wood lane.rail...1960 was to be bbc tv..closing now.....my nan 1890 her mum 1860,,her... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    It's good to see that John Holmes is truly back on his Gorton Site again. He is a very avid contributor, and it is obvious everyone is very pleased he's back.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    yes fred ..it was very sad upsetting for him to.be treated like.that...so pleased it has worked out..glad he is back..excellent person..long time..there..site very similar to ours...rare...corby found us accidently when put comics in google and both our sites doing nostalgia of them........corby was only.people to cause it......knowhere dont stop it.....many letters sent to them

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 23-Apr-2012
    Oh yes Pauline the bread puddings, we used to get a pennys worth from a shop on the corner of Coldharbour Lane/Yeading Lane on the way home from school of course we had to walk home but it was worth it. Talking of rice puddings, no one ever has tapico sago semolina puddings these days, I wonder what we would think of them now.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    sunday tea at nans,,,yrs all grandchildren visited west ave...bancmange..all colours....queen coronation tressels street kids jellies...my uncle dressed as clown....bread butter.tea..winkles that they had brought home from barrow at northcote pub..sunday lunchtime..neddle take black heads off..........all layed out on 1928 square heavy wood table in living room chairs and out of bedroom set around... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Apr-2012
    Yes, I remember the Tapioca Pudding we had when we were kids. My brothers used to try and put me off by telling me what it was made of. You can guess what they said! However, I ate all mine in spite of it. What school were you attending Zeta when you had to walk all the way home from Coldharbour Lane? That was a nice walk though. I never liked going past the type of Borstal on the opposite side wh... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    zeta will come back with townsfield..zeta in hayes message knowhere.march 2002 townfield senior school asking of pre1957.jack griggs..went..also good site pauline myself use...hillingdon hayes.com..section townfield..photos..coldharbour borstal farm...now large retail pk..sainsbury etc.....1700s 1800..batsford bridge went over yeading brook uxbridge rd near waggon horses pub.toll turnpike.stabling... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Apr-2012
    We used to call it "the canal bridge" or "Hamborough bridge". When you consider that "Bankside" was in Southall, it was understandable as kids.We always referred to our local bridge as "Spikes Bridge".

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    yes that would be ..canal or after pub right at the bridge...yes.......just done..bulls bridge rd.one the toll hse...2 grandjunction pub..4..6..8.industrious cottages....my nans gt aunt .ann mary .there all life daughter died..just off at florence rd 1955..1806 onwards wingrove morton...found.on 1914 post office directory.free on line...western rd..so long north side hulbert cycle shop at king st.... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Apr-2012
    Thank you Pauline for trying that recipe. He was a dear friend to me and a very funny man.

    Incidently he used to be in Neighbours (I have never watched it except if Roy was in it) years ago he played this guy called Lester who from memory put wire up in the woods to stop teenagers riding through there. In the end he was written out of it and Lester died of emphysema which is rather strange beca... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    our site has said ..jason in neighbours..his.grandad lived near northcote pub.northcote ave..down from broadway shops..just west of woolworths...southall......the son jason s dad went to melbourne..family tree was good on tv.....

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Apr-2012
    Yes Roy was friends with Terry Donovan, Jason's father. Roy was also in Emergency Ward 10 with Charles (Bud) Tingwell (Bud was the Dr. all the ladies said was so dishy, he also flew planes for RAF during WW11) many years later through Roy, I met Bud Tingwell when he came down to see Roy in an amateur production we were both in.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Apr-2012
    I won't take you up on the Bread Pudding Fred, as I have a really good one of my own. I still have the newspaper cutting from donkey's years ago, which appeared in the Daily Mirror. From time to time, members of my family have asked for the recipe again, and my sister asked for it recently to make it for her grandchildren! The lady who sent it in to the paper was seventy eight years old, so althou... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    emergency ward 10...was good.......yes his dad but his mum was mainly in the family tree programme and 1st ancestor guard of convicts .off ship..he had confidence of the convict work force and found hard going but ..strived for 1st track through blue mtns badly needed land use other side......something like that memorial to him in sydney.....I enjoyed blue mtns sydney and aborigine caves......1966... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 23-Apr-2012
    You are so right Pauline, people live on through their recipes be it family or friends.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 24-Apr-2012
    Hello Fred you asked what school I was at, Townfield School aged 11 I was there until the war ended, and then went to Greggs College. It was a long walk but the bread pudding was worth it, I loved it. I made it a few times when our boys were young it was a filler until tea time.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Apr-2012
    Though pleased to know what school you were at Zeta, it was in fact Pauline who wanted to know. By the way I've not heard of that school.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Apr-2012
    townsfield.....good large senior school....near uxbridge road........up into hayes abit......yeading lane juction...the grapes pub...opposite coldharbour lane farm borstal........inton coldharbour lane on west side..just there was many yrs townsfield..1980s closed became large college......I worked librarian..senior school....went there..to see furniture at close ..and chose some to take back to m... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Apr-2012
    It's my fault that everyone is calling me "Fred". I shouldn't have worded the Subject title as I did. Sorry!

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Apr-2012
    I for one Pauline, never tire of seeing my name in print. Best regards, Freddie Gough

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Apr-2012
    Although I lived in Hayes for 2 years, and frequently used Coldharbour Lane by bike and bus on my way to EMI, I cannot place Townsfield School at all. Have we got any photos of it on our Southallboard? I moved from there in 1956.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    there are couple photos shops along there.......emi blyth rd.......coming north hayes high st runs into coldharbour rd...to uxbridge rd junction.........where you turn east to southall uxbridge rd....that east corner.....at uxbridge rd...is the boys borstal farm......was coldharbour farm many yrs on old maps........at uxbridge rd as you turn to southall junction yeading lane 1956 .grapes pub on co... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    middlesex.net...or hillingdon hayes.com........in google lots photos townsfield school....emi...couple of coldharbour LANE...etc...hayes.....lots there....in google........long row houses both sides coldharbour lane but some shops ..etc ..nearer to hayes high st....as approach for emi..hayes station.nestle....

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    photos of school on the hayes site...it layed back not notice from bus..west top side of coldharbour lane...west side the school as you approach uxbridge rd....but go in..between houses rows..go in gap..then school layes behind.......not really notice much from road go down entrance..then in at back of houses..long row houses on main rd.....west side..opposite down abit from borstal.......hillingd... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    with google map of coldharbour lane west side...top north end....east ave runs out of square area of school premises land.........now called hayes campus ..a college....after school demolished........it did not sit on the road .narrow entry between long row houses.....down quite abit...to school buildings..back behind houses.........

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    webshots photos in google 11 of townfield sch...3 of st christopher borstal....old photos..both demolished now...

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Apr-2012
    Thank you Yvonne. I have a clear picture in my mind of the Uxbridge road as I cycled from Northcote Avenue, past the farmland and the Borstal on the same side. I can still see "The Grapes" on the opposite side of the road on the corner of Yeading Lane. I remember distinctly falling off my bike on the ice covered road as I turned into Coldharbour Lane off the Uxbridge road to get to EMI. However, a... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Apr-2012
    11 nice photos school and 2 gates entrances..avenue rd west over back.......on the hillingdon hayes site..webshots...in google......and 2 excellent ones of borstal there...grapes still there big on corner..but been beefeater or something..long tims restaurant pub......yes big turn there ice your bike...left round into coldharbour lane..school on your right but small gap inbetween houes...back into... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Apr-2012
    Thanks for that, but now you have told me where Townsfield School was in Coldharbour Lane, I will still keep that picture I have in my mind of the Southall that I loved so much when I was young.

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Apr-2012
    huge carve ups of greater london 1965..50s so used to things as they had been for several decades...southall norwood..bourough council yown hall......hayes council......and way off ealing old town hall percival house..let alone hanwell and greenford.....we at west ave southall.1961.were part of hayes .yeading lane..brookside..as part of the council...............then 1965...the 2 huge civic centre... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by lynne Allen (Member 10277762) on 30-Aug-2012
    Just found this site and memories came flooding back. My Grandparents Mr Mrs Weedon lived in West Avenue across road from lovely Pop Bowden and his family who used to store the barrow boy "Staggies" fruit etc in his back shed. I still visit the area regularly as I have not moved far away from Southall nor ever would.Talking about puddings does any one remember tabioca puddings the tabioca itself b... more >>

  • Re: ROY'S RICE PUDDING supplied by Fred Gough by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Aug-2012
    Yes, I remember Tapioca Puddings Lynne. I lived in Northcote Avenue opposite the Ive family who sold fruit and vegetables. My sister, Jennifer Hackman, used to go to Tudor road school with a girl called Weedon. I can't remember her first name though. My brothers used to put me off when we had Tapioca Pudding as they used to say it looked like something very unpleasant!! Lovely memories of Southall.

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How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Apr-2012
I was watching a series of "Foyle's War" recently, and there was a bomb damage scene and all the neighbours were carrying on working outside. When Foyle wanted to talk to one of the women, she asked a neighbour if she would carry on finishing what she had been doing, and the neighbour said "Right you are." I realised that I hadn't heard that expression for years. It then made me think back to when... more >>   
  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Apr-2012
    right you are....yes heard that yrs ago...by many...so many colourful expressions..dont hear...some are southern some northern......london or cockney......west ave our family...constant expressions........32 yrs worked age 11 to 19 c of e school...always surnames teachers..or sir,,,or miss.....and the modern..mutual respect.gains good behaviour...children always called by christian name........off... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Apr-2012
    Yes it is very interesting when you hear a phrase on a TV/Radio show that has been left behind by the way language evolves.

    For instance the other day I was listening to a recording of Paul Temple and I heard the phrase "It's out of adjustment" well I have not heard that phrase since the late 50's (I was born 1950) and if our TV was on the blink Dad would say "it's out of adjustment we'd better... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Apr-2012
    interesting period pieces tv or film.etc..books.but if families word of mouth dont hand down culture expressions..way of life etc...much could get lost....worked bbctv reference library white city when left 6th form..reference books helps verify..scripts...they phone constantly...because eagle eyed viewers write phone to complain..mistakes.....and illustrations collection..of places times gone by ... more >>

  • Re: How things change by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2012
    Three expressions l have not heard for years are:

    "Conked out", "up the pole" and "Round the bend"

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Apr-2012
    Strangely enough Fred, I hadn't realised that the series "Heartbeat" is still being shown on ITV3 here. It's not a programme I watched regularly when it was on, and now it's showing again at 1.05pm - 2.10pm. Don't know how long it's on for.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Apr-2012
    CHANNEL 10 FREEVIEW DAILY LAST 2 WEEKS NOW...HEARTBEAT 5,45 PM...GOOD ACTORS NOSALGIA..MUSIC..WE ALL KNEW SO WELL.......KEITH.YES CARS OFTEN ON BLINK YEARS AGO..SO EXPRESSIONS..GET BONNET UP FIDDLE....BUT LESS EXPRESSION..BECAUSE SOME SOCIETY ..THINGS NOT AS THAT...MIND YOU OTHER THINGS....ARE NOT RELIABLE..SOME EXPRESSIONS ,,,,,BUT MY AUNTS ETC USED LOT MORE..COMMON...EXPRESSIONS..THAN HEAR YOUNG... more >>

  • Re: How things change by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2012
    You are right Yvonne, "On the blink" is another

    Kids today wouldn't know what we mean!

  • Re: How things change by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 17-Apr-2012
    A few years ago a mate of mine was telling me about how he used to go to a nightclub in London and that same nightclub was frequented by Ruth Ellis & he said "Oh yes I used to see her coming in, 'fag on' " (meaning of course having a cigarette). Up till then I'd never heard the expression certainly it was not used in the 60's does anyone else remember it?

  • Re: How things change by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 17-Apr-2012
    Fred, I remember hearing it in the early 70s, but not since

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 17-Apr-2012
    Yes Fred, I certainly remember the expression having a "Fag on". In fact, my sister and I (she's in her seventies) were only talking recently about someone we knew years ago, and she said "she always had a fag on". As for the expressions "conked out" and "round the bend" my grandson said he knows them and says they are still used. The words used more frequently now though are "knackered" and "psyc... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 18-Apr-2012
    Yes, Pauline & I suppose saying having 'a fag on' these days could be misconstrued!

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Apr-2012
    with media..tv .travel etc...american..idioms....creep in..but it is good to hear the old fashioned ones of our passed families...used so much for so many years..but..only period piece tv etc now captures the english culture...myfamily tree have contact .....of 1870 left southall green for usa and 1850 left heston link family .left for australia.....usa blank on any real english local..joke or exp... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 18-Apr-2012
    What about the saying "Charlie's dead" when someone's underslip showed below the hemline of a dress?
    Whenever my friend tripped over something and almost fell she say "Ooo! I nearly went for a Burton".
    Another one was "I laughed so much I nearly had kittens".
    My mother used to use the words "batchy" to describe someone who was a bit of a "scatter brain".

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    I'd almost fogotten the other two words you don't hear nowadays relating to cigarettes.
    Fag-end and dog-end, meaning the end of the cigarette. Some people used to pick them up off the road years ago, especially tramps.

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    Oh Janice, that brought back some memories - "going for a Burton". Don't remember "Charlie's dead" though. My friend was always saying "I laughed like a drain". Where did that come from??

  • Re: How things change by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-Apr-2012
    How many youngsters today would know that trousers you had outgrown were at "half mast"?

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Apr-2012
    yes charlies dead used all through 50s 60s..slip..petticoat showing....heard very often used.......batty...scatter brain.......but petticoat slips..not so today or vests..let alone liberty bodice or roll on......even men not singlet vest so much.now.....central heating cars.....huge changes life and ..environment..and loss of expressions...not used not needed..................great to read.. hear ... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    "Strappy vests" 95 per cent cotton are still being sold in M&S. My two daughters and I have been wearing them all through the winter. Lovely and warm!

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Apr-2012
    often written about and they say how far back some go.....charlie s dead..three. charles.monarch...charles 2nd death..ladies.man..flash their petticoats at sign.respect his funeral.petticoat lane london pub has stories of it..still got my tea set..mkt there 1964 from middlesex visit sunday morning..also death in house blind curtain drawn or down.petticoat showing down.............bobs your uncle..... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    When we were being extra noisy as kids, we were told to "Put a sock in it", and we did! How did that come about?

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Apr-2012
    often heard put sock in it..ha.....children should be seen not heard..ha......local southall....rothchilds at gunnesbury pk acton....so often heard my aunt say of those ...who do you think you are lord rof child..said like that...ha......what they 4 banker brothers..think..european jews.....lived bucks huge house also......bankers..the wealthiest...but west ave southall.heard it..and think she hea... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Apr-2012
    early gramaphone..well we had that hayes factory didnt we............roll up sock into horn..muffle it......................but navy army...back hundreds yrs ..wars...many expressions............ and the cockneys..filtered through to us southall..bus shepherds bush....seemed near....

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    "Pick your feet up" was another thing my father used to say to us if we were walking badly!

  • Re: How things change by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 18-Apr-2012
    I can remember when the number that came after 19 was twenty, not TWENNY, as seems to be standard English for T.V. presenters.

  • Re: How things change by Chris (Member 10220786) on 18-Apr-2012
    Yes, I remember CHARLIE'S DEAD when petticoats were below the hem-line. Pick up your feet! That one too. Our Mum always told us to STOP STROOCHING (alternative to Pick up your feet). What about.....I'll have your guts for garters! Such a horrid thing to say. MAKE DO & MEND (we should all do that now!) And one I still use to sign off my emails to friends and family.....TTFN. Chris xx

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    Nice to see you back on the site Chris. I was thinking how your mum was?
    "I'll have your guts for garters". Yes, that was always being said indoors, and what about "Your eyes are bigger than your belly" when you were not able to finish what was on your plate!

  • Re: How things change by Chris (Member 10220786) on 18-Apr-2012
    I've been lurking in the background Pauline! Mum's happy & well thank you. She will be 98 in May - an amazing lady! Chris x x x

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    Another expression I can remember my father saying was "I'm spitting feathers". Probably because he was wanting a pint at the Northcote Arms!

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Apr-2012
    98 only next mth will be great happy birthday to her.CHRIS.best wishes....every single expression we all heard...amaz....must be so many....and we heard all our lives so often..many have very old origins......great to read them all here........last couple decades..hear increase of somethink.with k...seems london perhaps..tv actresses..seems fast quick way of finishing off the word.....something...but...

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Apr-2012
    Pleased to hear about your mum Chris. What a wonderful age!

  • Re: How things change by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 19-Apr-2012
    I remember if I said, "what for", my Mum would say 5, and if I said "why" she would say Z, did anyone else's Mum say that to them, all the old sayings, they sure do bring back memories and living in NZ tose old sayings were not heard here very much.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Apr-2012
    as old as your tongue and bit older than your teeth if kids always asking too many questions..how old are you..ask no questions be told no lies.......quickly shut the children up..too much long hours labouring work house etc to be done...no time..but oh...the questions we would like to ask them today....I could write pages of questions to ask them...but they would have to be in good mood..because ... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Apr-2012
    what ..four.....reply from ..mum..five........the number times you here kids..cheek back...when asked to do something..or just told to very firmly in the old days...............so many kids say what for..over over again.............................but clever zeta ..5......never heard it................perhaps where mums come from..if they heard from their mums...........north so different from sou... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Apr-2012
    Zeta - Fancy you remembering that. I had completely forgotten it. I don't remember my mum ever answering to "What for", but if you kept saying "why" she would say "z". Mind you, it was usually in the scullery when she was cooking, and you didn't push your luck too much, as I was chased up the stairs more than once! Thinking about it, we never questioned my dad!

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Apr-2012
    wait till your dad gets home..he will give you what for........cheeky monkey....put your thinking cap on..for petes sake...gordon bennett...some go back..so many yrs..history.times etc..navy used lots of them.....

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Apr-2012
    Talking about "dads" and "fathers" reminded me of a saying when I was a child. "A bit of How's your father". It took me a long time before I understood what it meant!! When I just looked up the saying in google, it said it originated from Harry Tate the comedian, and it was his word for "sex". Whenever he wanted to change the subject, he would use that saying!

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Apr-2012
    over wilfs mothers......or is it muffers..ha....with brit obsession weather ha...lately hail stones..double rainbows..flash floods...april showers......oh its bit of blue over there....behind black clouds sky...ok over wilfs mothers...my uncle said it... many did...but drought brent river very low need the rain...who is wilf...ha..let alone his mother...could go back many decades and more

  • Re: How things change by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 19-Apr-2012
    I must say Pauline, that I use Gordon Bennett all the time. It's very handy when you don't want to be "too Continental"

  • Re: How things change by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 19-Apr-2012
    My dad used to say "stone the crows" if surprised.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Apr-2012
    yes mike heard so often........and.raining cats and dogs........my goodness so many...gt fun..rich colourful..language..diluted now....think a lot of it goes back.so .many long yrs.amazing.............gazette said 60 official street parties..local....60 yrs...gold long..red royal barge looks great built out rickmond way...for thames procession..1000 boats june....queen

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 20-Apr-2012
    I've been ironing and thinking and have just remembered my mother would say "Come on! Wake up England" whenever we weren't paying attention.

    She sometimes used the expression "Ye Gods and little fishes" when exasperated.

    Has anybody heard of a Wim-Wom by any chance? If we were too curious about anything that didn't concern us and asked "What's that" she would answer "A Wim-Wom for a Goose's ... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Apr-2012
    Janice - Evidently the saying came from China. The Chinese used to put bridles on geese, but they had trouble in keeeping the bridle on because the goose wouldn't open its mouth. So, they put an extra strap over the goose's beak, which became a "wing wong". It was made by a Mr Wong. One day a young boy put the bridle on the goose and it kept falling off. The old man, Mr Wong said, "Where's the Win... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Apr-2012
    Don't know how true this is, but that's what it says on the Internet!

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 20-Apr-2012
    Hi Pauline - Thanks for this, wonder if there's any truth in it, made me smile all the same.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Apr-2012
    perhaps your mum or her mum came from rural.parts......unusual..never heard it.......wonder where she picked it up from....thanks......goody 2 shoes..i will give you something to cry about..shut your mouth eat your supper... ha...........cake hole.............skating on thin ice...blind alley.............

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Apr-2012
    Must admit Janice, it sounds like a good storyteller to me. The Aussies have also some claim to it, but quite different. Perhaps our friends in Australia can shed some light on it!

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Apr-2012
    When we did something indoors that was long overdue, my father would say "put the flags out".

  • Re: How things change by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Apr-2012
    Janice my dad used to say its a wim wom for winding up smoke

  • Re: How things change by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 20-Apr-2012
    Or a Wim-Wom for winding up the sun!

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 20-Apr-2012
    My mother was born and brought up in Brentford and had six older brothers so perhaps she picked up some of her sayings from them but where wim-wom came from is anybody's guess. I worked in Bristol for a number of years and one of the expressions I remember was "Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs". And if someone was staying home for their holidays they'd say they were "just going to our gate".

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Apr-2012
    not heard gate..but oh yes foot my stairs......some perhaps regional...........brentford..we had couple there..ealing road into old brentford..section family tree,,,,hugely busy area..many decades..people flooded in..gt ..1950s backwards site in google..families etc years.....I worked beechams 1971.still.old high st..all history there...but now ..affter many yrs they have modernised..lots there ne... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 20-Apr-2012
    Do you remember the saying "heavens to murgatroy!!! what did that mean!!!!

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Apr-2012
    seems 1950..from ...heavens to betsy..of.usa.yogi bear show snugglepuss..and cowardly lion wizard of oz..and name in gilbert sullivan popular operettas...so many years towns.perform them.....greenford hall still does panto..and beck theatre uxbridge rd hayes..................when they world tour lloyd webber wizard oz...it is great to see....so much on stage..excellent in everyway......gracie fiel... more >>

  • Re: How things change by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 21-Apr-2012
    Reference Jim Marshall they lived at 31 Abbotts Rd. we lived at 37 knew them well the father was caretaker at Dormers wells no way did they have a fish shop.

  • Re: How things change by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Apr-2012
    Wasn't it Heavens to MurgatroyD and it was the cartoon character Snagglepuss. Hope this helps.

  • Re: How things change by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 22-Apr-2012
    When i used to have drumming lessons from Jim Marshall he lived in Lonsdale Rd, The room he taught in, was the front room upstairs covered in egg boxes to suppress the sound, he had 26 pupils at the time and was reputed to be the best tutor in london.He was also an engineering miller at Heston Aircraft.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    SO GOOD TO SEE.lots articles james marshall in google....telegraph...says bone disease casts on body long time.. only 8 weeks of school.by 13 yrs age.....his dad relocated to southall..where says his dad ran fish chip shop..think southall green....james tap dancing...etc...yes quite bit in daily telegraph about.heston airport....born 29 july 1923...........things today we say..spitting feathers...... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    biographies read are always good.....ps. havelock pub closed again..pending court case violence.....james.parents.moved into southall from kensington.james bad tb..bones.casts his body.. mum beatrice james senior says owned fish chip shop western rd .southall green.//james 8 weeks school left age 13..boiler at jam factory.biscuit making..baker..shoe selling..scrap metal..sliced thumb off meat pla... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    It's strange about the saying "spitting feathers". I remember it as "being thirsty" years ago, but my sister remembers it as "being angry". Also, remember my dad saying "feel as if my throat's been cut" when he was hungry. What a rich language we have!

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Apr-2012
    Whenever anyone was seriously ill (such as Robin Gibb, for example), my mother-in-law would always say they were "on open order". I assume it meant that the patient would either recover or expire but why 'open order'? Anyone able to explain please?

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    JANICE I think it meant you could visit the patient anytime as they were so ill, as visiting hours were restricted years ago.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    yes my family always said on open order.........just done florence rd on map...my morton wingrove family..went to usa..saw on recent map..north top regina adelaide on map called the fairground thats nice..as memories are there...beaches etc..all us liked middlesex tube to greenwich ,cutty sark..looks splendid ..marathon..suspend..those on top sails .watching.runners..glass under.for visitors as we... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    I can remember early in the 1940's having to wait outside West Middlesex Hospital, Isleworth in the open, behind locked gates, before they were opened to allow visitors to visit patients at the designated times. On OPEN ORDER you could visit any time. It was the same at Hillingdon hospital in the 60's until visiting times were relaxed.

  • Re: How things change by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 22-Apr-2012
    I think Janice is correct. It was people who might be on the verge of death and people might be travelling vast distances to see them for the last time. It allowed those who were very ill to see their loved ones at any time irrespective of the usual hospital visiting hours.

    I remember years ago coming down Boston Manor Road, outside Brentford Central station was a house with a board outside... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Apr-2012
    My maternal grandfather worked at Brentford Docks at some time in the early 1920s he was injured (among others) when a load shifted and spilled. He spent a long time in Brentford Cottage Hospital with an injured back, at one time not expected to walk again, but slowly recovered and convaleseced at the Railway Union's home in Dawlish. The original Cottage Hospital building was demolished and anoth... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 22-Apr-2012
    Thank you all for clarifying what Open Order meant.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    brentford law courts mkt square now a restaurant.interesting site loads on brentford google..and its people etc...we were there a bit

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    Yes, I well remember Southall Cottage hospital opposite the Gem in the early seventies. My dad was very ill in there, and at the end the staff even allowed me to sleep in the next bed to him, and he died the next morning. Those two Irish nurses were wonderful.

  • Re: How things change by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 22-Apr-2012
    My wife worked at Hanwell Cottage in Green Lane Hanwell also Hayes Cottage in Grange Road Hayes when I was ill in 1972 I spent a lot of time in King Edwards when you became better you were sent to Hanwell Cottage this is a amusing story it was in July during the day I would sit in a deck chair on the lawn as my wife nursed there she would bring me out a cold drink the gardener not knowing she was ... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    yes thats lovely len..funny..he should say that...............and king edward 7th hospital..off uxbridge rd mattock lane west ealing..kids tonsils 1950s princess eliz ward..jackson famous nursery rhymne tiles....valuable.rare historic.from ironbridge .start of industrial revolution company...photos tiles on our boards...

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    short page of this site has mt pleasant fever hospital..by north rd allendale.asks of flo gormley who worked there in the 1940s.. by family hazel booker....my nan was in there 2weeks..otherwise hillingdon and west middx used by us....and hounslow cottage hospital.....hammersmith hospital ducane rd acton..

  • Re: How things change by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Apr-2012
    LEN - What I want to know is - did you tell the gardener, or keep him in suspense?

  • Re: How things change by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Apr-2012
    Wormwood Scrubs prison is also on Ducane Road named after the architect of the prison

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    thanks denis...yes we used to say ducane...when meant hammersmith..105 bus goes from greenford...one ours there for heart ..other local relative there for cancer.......yes see prison everytime...that famous entrance and leave gate .towers walls...view close from.central line....lovely horsendon hill...northolt british rail fields...new neon.emerald green tesco was hoover.......then the scrubs..the... more >>

  • Re: How things change by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Apr-2012
    I also remember going to Paddington train spotting we would see the army paras. doing drops from a barrage balloons over Wormwoods Scrubs common from the train

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    think still runs liitle train only greenford to paddington......then..aylesbury south ruislip wembley to marylebone very lovely train....fast 15 mins.....tussards and regents pk.......latimer rd by nottinghill shep bush ...scrubs..1950s ..we knew one lived there...........carnival now.....talk of it going to hyde park....

  • Re: How things change by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Apr-2012
    Yes,
    the little one carriage train that used to run just between Ealing & Greenford, now often runs the Aylesbury to Princes Risborough shuttle service.

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    lovely chiltern line....aylesbury...nice trains..s ruislip wembley..to marylebone.....fast when non stop one..........chiltern line very nice trains...use oyster card on..or free freedom over 60 yr olds pass

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    tony think little greenford train still runs ,,he used it 10 yrs worked pall mall london..2 stops.south tube...of chiltern marylebone and ....thames ..both sides walks..beauty places visit...HAPPY ST GEORGE DAY>..shakespeare birthday...annual.gt event globe thames...it is wonderful there......his monument next along southwark cathedral..have pageant info yesterday 1000 boats queen hug long barge .... more >>

  • Re: How things change by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Apr-2012
    Return fare Southall to Paddington mid 50s 1/1d happy days

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    new fast cross rail to be going through costing loads....southall hopes all part..regeneration..station users.....princes risb monks..my gt gran came from..to harefield then northyde...been there lovely.but.cant get back..some on church books..yet... hertford archive .amersham..1850 came dirt tracks chalfont lane to old uxbridge lane..coaching inns wagons..

  • Re: How things change by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Apr-2012
    perhaps sayings with deep..very important meaning....cometh the hour cometh the man.....pride before a fall....etc.....week we went to war channel 12 tv..freeview..lovely catherine jenkins voice songs so.good..seen her dancing on computer usa strictly ballroom dancing ..she may win.......many of us links to yorkshire...my southall.cousin..hull brid scarborough wife.....hull sheffield blitz war...b... more >>

  • Re: How things change by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Apr-2012
    The mention of travel on the GWR from Southall to Paddington reminds me I travelled that route 1948-1951, when I was a student at the Northern Polytechnic. I don't recall any cancelled trains in that three years-the trains were punctual!

  • Re: How things change by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 23-Apr-2012
    Michael would that be Holborn Poly

  • Re: How things change by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-Apr-2012
    No Denis-the Northern Polytechnic (Now London Metropolitan University) is in Holloway Road.
    I used to get the met line fron Platform 16 to Kings Cross, thence two stops on the Piccadily Line. Very handy connection at Paddington, as my train usually arrived on Platform 15.

  • Re: How things change by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Apr-2012
    Thank you Michael the reason i asked my cousin whent to Holborn Poly same period.

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West Ealing 2 by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 10-Apr-2012
Does anyone remember a Pub in West Ealing that got bombed, I think there was landmine dropped behind the shops near Marks and Sparks, I think the Irish used to use it, and I seem to recall the front of the pub being boarded up in the front but it was still used something to do with the licence in those days. It was somewhere near BHS and M&S   
  • Re: West Ealing 2 by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 15-Apr-2012
    Was that the one which badly damaged Abernethies

  • Re: West Ealing 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Apr-2012
    abernethies was up along east a bit from marks spencers..143 uxbridge rd..bombed fly bomb.friday 21 july 1944..opened again by clock tower hanwell broadway....jones knight store 2 doors away got hit also...............pubs west ealing uxbridge rd.high st..........seemed ok.................photo load hay pub greenford brent river bridge bomb 1940 24 sept on our board.5 killed family there 2 injured... more >>

  • Re: West Ealing 2 by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 18-Apr-2012
    Zeta the pub was the Green Man they rebuilt it then closed W.H. Smith opened after now they have gone.

  • Re: West Ealing 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Apr-2012
    off west ealing..down to south ealing....clayponds hospital my aunt went to...len went to school with my aunt...she had big operation..serious southall norwood cottage hospital 1976/7..age 52ish..the surgeon came to do it.... her local lifetime southall.old gp came to check her..we went dark evening after work..night after op...to see her..it was bad but she..later got up.did all the teas for them... more >>

  • Re: West Ealing 2 by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 24-Apr-2012
    Thanks Len for that The Green Man, the reason it sticks in my mind, on a Sunday, Mum would send me to Mass with the lodgers they all being Irish and they would put me on the bus home and they would go to that Pub after Mass and I can see it was boarded up due to the bombing they didn't close it because they would lost their licence.

  • Re: West Ealing 2 by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Apr-2012
    think behind the uxbridge rd sops northerly got the worst of it..the built...new housing estate there...the rail running all through along north behind shops nazis made for bombing often.....then up by daniels to east high st..deaths bad bombing 4/5 shops there abernethies..suffered bad....... our member phylis scarbrow ..mum etc were there..saw bus stop etc...........ealing war death casualties l... more >>

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HAPPY EASTER by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 3-Apr-2012
Wishing you all a very happy Easter from Auckland New Zealand. Do they still have the Easter Parade in Hyde Park, at Easter my Mum would buy us a new outfit. a hat and new shoes and take us to the Park, happy days.   
  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Apr-2012
    happy easter zeta..bluebells..1st time so early usually may....boat race thames...saturday....kew bridge gt..celebrations win oxford cambridge,,isis or goldie...used to be horses parades..prizes.rosettes. ////harness brasses.carriages,,brewery drays.at regent pk,,then battersea.....now down south england.....easter........the .. rare site ...of the member who got taken over hijacked is like ours..... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 4-Apr-2012
    Ah the bluebells, what a wonderful sight, we don't have them here. Thanks too Yvonne for the info, re hijacking..........

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Apr-2012
    going along old hedgerow over yrs saw the pink and white ones........bulbs get scarce....so protected...much more carpets of them yrs ago..historic houses etc...have lovely sweeps of them.....from west ave my uncle had one of the 1st st mary paddington.plastic valve heart....he swam local canal with brother as kid never out of it..born 1914.dont know how much they got to school...infections in wat... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Apr-2012
    Happy Easter to you all on our super site. Denis

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Apr-2012
    Yes, you're quite right Denis. Ours is a super site. A very happy Easter to you and everyone.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Apr-2012
    I would like to add my Easter greetings to the great people who make up this site

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Apr-2012
    MEANT CHISWICK BRIDGE GT FOR EASTER BOAT RACE..KEW BRIDGE GDNS FOR BLUEBELLS ETC..GAZETTE AGAIN EMI £250MILLION.COMPLEX..HOPES CROSSRAIL COMPANIES WILL BUY INTO OFFICE BLOKE DESIGN ART DECO...WINDING PATH PAVED RIDGED TO REMEMBER RECORDS.CINEMA MUSIC MUSEUM HOMES,RESTAURANT,LOCAL HIST SOCIETY OK IT....PICTURE IN GAZETTE...TESCO GOING TO BE ON SITE FAMOUS MSTER BREWER OTEL WESTERN AVE HILLINGDON..... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 4-Apr-2012
    As they used to say in The Dandy & Beano "A Happy Easter to all our readers" and in our case writers as well!

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Apr-2012
    happy easter fred and everybody.......beano must have been read by nearly all of us..chocolate eggs from woolies..little sugar.flowers on the front...gazette has photo harmondsmouth moor bath rd..canal bridge.canal to harefield....brass plaque.to canadian air force.sept 1943.crashed on return mission.all 7 died.countryside park opened by canadian ambassador..in the sight of heathrow..280 acres..wa... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 5-Apr-2012
    Will have to have at that Yvonne thank you. you have taken back with the sugar flowers on Easter eggs jogged the memory

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2012
    That also brought back a memory of mine when I was about five years old. At Easter, I had a little chocolate egg in an egg cup, all wrapped up in cellophane paper.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Apr-2012
    feel sure it was woolies had gt display..because it was so easy for my aunts to go up the end of the road..with woolies just there...to get all the cousins eggs..may be discount 3 for2...lovely in cup or pretty boxes...creme eggs now tony had one yesterday found caramel inside instead of yrs of the white sickly too sweet white soft sugar inside....caramel interior is nicer....so much was bought fr... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Apr-2012
    There was also another lovely sweet shop further along from Woolies, past the ABC and Westminster Bank, called Lewis's. I remember, with my nose up against the window, drooling over a magnificent huge Easter egg decorated with coloured icing when the rationing was on. It could have been a dummy, but I could have eaten it. Len had to remind us of the sweet shop's name in our Saxon road thread!

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Apr-2012
    so many designs of choc eggs over yrs..beautiful..they still do egg rolling and hide the eggs for kids to find.......harefield middx church yard on hill...carpet best smooth lawn.hill at australian.commonwealth war grave there many because harefield hospital as southall hosital..up by beaconsfield rd st joseph..had 1917 artificial limbs abd rehab,..photos on our board.....so easter sunday the kids... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Apr-2012
    aladdin with famous tower was bq,,boarded since 2007..opened today homefurnishing.dunelm..100 stores country...western ave,long drive..think olympic torch runs across some grass land ..denham to northala..across western ave...then down lady marg after 5pm to party walpole pk ealing.fireworks

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Apr-2012
    gazette now,the famous jim marshall..obe from the queen....famous of the amplifier..small shop hanwell..guitar music...and of southall green..has passed away age 86////86 maundy thursday purse to dutiful people..york...of her.age 86...for easter tradition...several of us love our york and minster.visits..

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Apr-2012
    obit in google..88 cancer..his dad fish chip shop southall green.jim tb in bones age 13..not able go war..1946 toolmaker heston airport..40s he sang orchestra southall dance hall nights for 50newpence..music shop guitar.famous for ampliffier.queen gave obe..in google.middlesex bomb damage map 1940 to 45..photos our board pyrene etc gt west rd golden mile my aunts from west ave went from one gate t... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2012
    rare......films....in google.....hayes harlington udc ytube.................early 50s..canal southall hayes bridge..willowtree lane pub horses..yeading lane..uxbridge rd..buses bikes..steam trains,level crossing..emi..kids swings cricket..charville..flower bed hayes crest design..by grapes pub coldharbour.cranford pk..sipson.bat rd.slough..hayes end..mellow lane school was hayes grammar..cottages.... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2012
    films there........hayes edge southall.....old coaches..bike side car ..1950 cars....twin towning...lovely flower bed uxbridge rd coldharbour..crests twin town france...1960 carnival..loads close ups faces ...nearly all crowds wearing hats...best clothes kids..lots bikes..shop fronts...bathing belles..floats ramsgate bexhill......queen ...fete,,roll penny coco shy...love live queen.portrait young ... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Apr-2012
    Just down loaded pics of Manor house & newly restored pond, Gem/Century also 50 red & green line buses on flicker d.sexton428 if anyone interested.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2012
    thanks will look....6/8 films on hayes....site..southall borders etc..nestle....schools we all had lots film..gym etc...post office counter school use of times table shillings etc....music triangle played etc...50s...swings.etc...hayes high st lots people kids close ups...uxbridge rd..lots film.....canal..etc etc

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2012
    loads gt photos thanks denis...yes no gap 428......flickr...d.sexton428 ..easy in google......pond etc looks great

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Apr-2012
    yes used ticket bit as board our 1950s bus platform..all row small windows you could.open gap...steam.windows.damp days..,,smoking......gem good.......google has photos old before grid..for your place dilloways current generator.side of gem.century cinema..in google photos..people wondering what it is..so you have answered................manor hse all going on inside...............acton every yr f... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2012
    Thank you Yvonne and Denis for the wonderful photos and films.The hayes harlington udc ytube films are really nostalgic. I have to keep going back and freezing them to have a really good look. There were two that I found captured the past so well. The one that we girls used to walk through Hayes town to the left - I think it was Botwell Lane - to sit in the little park and eat our sandwiches. Ther... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Apr-2012
    Your welcome.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2012
    yes left side ..west...is botwell lane....yes park just there...think it was 1950 they built the big modern..catholic church there...tony baptised in that......21 yes I had one..clever how they do the numbers.............there are about 6/7 films..there ...in schools..etc.....queen.....carnival....canal..etc...uxbridge..rd....................the twinning with france......nestle road...etc..lots pe... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2012
    Caught sight of our old Southall gasometer as the film went along Hayes uxbridge road. One pub I couldn't place was "The Royal Oak". Think it might have been in Harlington. Can anyone place it please?

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2012
    Glad you mentioned the Catholic church in Botwell Lane Yvonne. I was trying to remember whereabouts it was. We went to the wedding of one of our friends from EMI who married an American serviceman there. I remember how long the service was with all the incense being swung around. Also remember all the rye whisky that was at the reception!

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Apr-2012
    phantom on channel 5..2011 albert hall..they did dvd as well..easter gt treat....so well done 200 piece orchestra...royal oak seems church rd hayes off ancient freemans lane hayes...church is in film.lynch..cant see one in harlington..gt flower beds and the design crests they used to do...gt richard stilgoe comic parts like gilbert sullivan...gt costume ,,,webber music..25 yrs...gt easter treat

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Apr-2012
    Yes, you're right "The Royal Oak" was in Church road. It reminded me of St Mary's church in that road where we attended several family weddings. It says it is the oldest building in Hayes. I remember the vicar at one wedding telling the congregation that he did not want any confetti thrown about!

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 9-Apr-2012
    What was the vicar going to do if people did throw confetti, Pauline, annul the marraige?

    It's our ancient right to throw rice & or confetti, no doubt the church charged for the wedding!

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Apr-2012
    Sorry only just read the wrong spelling in my posting, it should be 'marriage'

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 10-Apr-2012
    Didn't even notice Fred! I was quite surprised when looking up at today's situation regarding confetti at churches. With more and more churches banning the use of conventional paper confetti, natural flowers are being used. Evidently, acres of purple, pink, blue and white flowers are grown to produce natural confetti. They are air-dried in greenhouses before being parcelled up into silk bags or da... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 10-Apr-2012
    That's a good idea, natural confetti & then everyone's happy. The vicar can still come round for afternoon tea.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Apr-2012

    The references to throwing rice at weddings reminds me that when I was a small boy I thought rice meant rice pudding!(Well, there's a thought!)

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Apr-2012
    When we were young Michael during the war, rice was one of those items that was rationed. Rice pudding was a rare treat, and there was always a fight to see who would scrape the dish out. We never ever threw it at weddings then.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Apr-2012
    Pauline; I was referring to pre-war years-I was 11 on 6th September 1939

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Apr-2012
    Sorry Michael. Of course you were a lot younger then. Having lots of rice puddings!!

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 12-Apr-2012
    Which of us had currants in our rice pud & whose was baked & whose was boiled? Mum always used to boil with currants but these days I bake from a recipe a mate of mine gave me. He's dead now but his recipe lives on.
    29/3/94 Roy's Rice Pudding
    -----------------
    Serves 4
    600ml Milk
    40... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Apr-2012
    Hi Fred my mum used to put nutmeg in rice pudding.

  • Re: HAPPY EASTER by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Apr-2012
    My mum baked her rice pudding with nutmeg in, and I followed suit when I was married. When I first looked at your recipe Fred, I thought 600mls seemed a hell of a lot of milk, but it's only just over a pint! When I have got all the ingredients together, I will have a go at it and let you know what I think of it. I will have to share it though. Thank you.

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Old John's Bookshop by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Apr-2012
I'm at it again, reading some more of my brother David's autobiography. Although we have already touched on some of this, I rather enjoyed reading it.
"When on nightwork, dad would be coming home at the same time as we were getting ready for school, so we often breakfasted together. Tuesday and Thursday mornings were awaited with particular anticipation as these were the days when dad brought the... more >>
  
  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Apr-2012

    (Continued).........
    containing more books, comics, stamps, and general bric-a-brac. There were even objects hanging from the ceiling, adding to the overcrowded, almost claustrophobic atmosphere. The musty, dusty smell still haunts me, as I trod those floorboards for several years, swapping and buying comics, and often selling them to get a few coppers for the pictures or for fishing tackle.
    I... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Apr-2012
    Thank you Pauline really enjoyed reading that took me back years, keep trying to remember the boy with the metal fish he used to go under the sea in it and do allsorts of good deeds in it cant remember if it was the Dandy or the Beno.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2012
    THANKYOU PAULINE ALWAYS INTERESTING..GRATEFUL TO YOU..YOUR TIME AND..WONDERFUL WRITING YOUR DEAR BROTHER AND YOU.....MUCH APPRECIATED ALWAYS....

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 1-Apr-2012
    Whoever you are MR JOHN HOLMES you are the MORON we don't want people like you on this site how dare you upset Pauline it brought back memories to me the book shop which was at the top of my road I use to go and get his tea for him I went to war for four years to give us freedom of speech a old Southallian would not say such things finally get lost.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 1-Apr-2012
    Mr Holmes are you a City or a United fan you must be very proud of your name not many people will know who he was do you still make films I ask you to stop insulting people it hurts we are all friends on this site.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Apr-2012
    Well said Len more like a football vandal of low intelligence

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 1-Apr-2012
    any one know who JOHN HOLMES WAS NOT THIS MORON I do.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Apr-2012
    @ John HOLMES.

    I would sincerely recommend that you seek some medical assistance as it is evident that you are unfit to be allowed to mingle with ordinary, normal people. St Bernards was once built for people like you and "Care in the Community" has a lot to answer for. Do your parents know that you are using their computer? They soon will as any further postings will be referred to the I
    SP provider. Cheers.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 1-Apr-2012
    Re: Does anyone know this poster who has just blighted the Corby Board? by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2012
    I have had my PC accessed by someone I know, and as it's April Fools Day, I assume they have thought fit to play a joke on me.
    Please accept my apologies, no offence intended.
    Am taking steps to rectify, and thank you for letting me know.
    Regards,
    John.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Apr-2012
    Thanks for the info, Len

    I just looked at the Corby Knowhere board and already this morning, before 7 a.m., 3 of them are fighting each other calling each other internet trolls etc. Well spotted. It isn't just a Southall Board problem but obviously a couple of schoolchildren who have infected/polluted the Knowhere boards across the country.
    Does anyone know how to alert the board monitors @ Knowhere??

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2012
    gorton mancester as well....sent 7 letters yesterday.and today asked cancel membership and delete.all..but..... urgent but

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Apr-2012
    Well, it's another day today, and I thought how lucky we are to have such a wonderful site as Southall Knowhere with such a fantastic crowd of people.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2012
    yes it is rare..sites ..hit miss..of people......couple local sites only lasted 4 yrs have just folded closed...they were sad..but...it is the good people..who make it.as most people are extremely intelligent and good.......but.most ..knowhere whole country is wide open to....the tiny amount very small few number of immature..wicked people..who..cause trouble.............canals local...doing wonde... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Apr-2012
    Pauline: To add to your list of comics there was a favourite comic of mine-Film Fun. I recall this was a black and white comic, and featured films stars as its characters.(Whether the stars gave their permission I know not!) Examples were Laurel and Hardy, Harold Lloyd, Joe.E Brown.
    Thanks for your apposite comments about this site!!

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Apr-2012
    Michael > > Red Skelton, Ronald Shiner, Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, and many more. . The "TOPPER" was always very funny too.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Apr-2012
    Talking about comics, can anyone remember the name of the comic (black and white) with a Lord somebody or other in it? If I remember rightly it was always on the back page. As for Red Skelton - that certainly brings back some memories. I remember going to the pictures with friends, and Red Skelton was in a scene where he was changing his clothes for some reason or other. It was so hilarious that I... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2012
    only remeber lord snooty ..beano..small comic dad brought fridays.comedy.funny......across rd my cousin..he had all over floor.at 9am.all huge boys comics,,his mum worked factory so..latch key kid he was suppose to say in read but no.always running about out and about...down back narrow grass alley he went..between west ave and northcote ave back gardens box matches but ok..no problem.1950..was there till.1965

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Apr-2012
    Yes, I think it was Lord Snooty Yvonne. "Marmaduke, the young Lord of Bunkerton was better known to comic readers as Lord Snooty.
    Despite his upper-class description he liked nothing better than mixing with the kids from Ash-Can Alley.These were Rosie, Hairpin Huggins, Skinny Lizzie, Scrapper Smith, Happy Hutton and Gertie The Goat". Some of these sound very familiar.
    As for that grassy alley th... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2012
    very narrow little grass alley top part compared to you...he got in his back garden fence,,no 23 but came out by northcote pub 3 alleys joining there..all is vivid memory yet today or yesterday..forget bits...most people do...how funny/that is.....he did light couple verylittle bits fire nothing much..weedon along that top west side used to complain....we called alexandra ave top part of west ave.... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Apr-2012
    KEITH At the very bottom of the page, past the Amazon advert, there is a line which says:

    Mail our automatic mailing service @
    info@knowhere.co.uk
    for helpful information and further details of how to contact K... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Apr-2012
    yes sent 2 days..emails...but they dont seem do anything..born 1947 age 65.he seems out action.1st apr .his own email lost scam he says..gorton.corby etc he several yrs says so much.so whether they will ever do anything.he must found us by accident in google list that shows clear long list of us.unfortunatly.

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Apr-2012
    Pauline: I have suddenly-and belatedly-realised that Old Johns Bookshop is what my contemporaries and I termed "The Box of Tricks."
    I was in there a lot because I was a keen collector of foreign stamps-I still have my old collection. Wonder if we were ever there together????

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Apr-2012
    the person...................today says he has withdrawn from site..................after many yrs...................at gorton.corby.says somebody used his email and membership and fools day put offense everywhere......................he is upset and has withdrawn..................he said it was not him.............................so that is..difficult problem.it seems out of character to his 65yr... more >>

  • Re: Old John's Bookshop by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Apr-2012
    kew..1st time recorded blue bells..march..now lovely at kew gdns..65 bus southall went...may was bluebell festival............northyde.southall went to cranford pk bluebells..........several senior people..like ourselves..his site have asked him not to resign...not his fault...somebody got hold of his email and password to log in use his name..all day 1st april...but us at 4pm.the joke is on the p... more >>

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FriendsReunited by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Mar-2012
I wonder if anyone had had my experoence with FR recently. Today I tried to enter it, but the whole site has been re-vamped, and I couldn't enter it. Any sugestions??   
  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2012
    why dont they ask people...first......it is horrid.....was so perfect before...quick..clear easy...got in at last....eventually got my messages emasils...got nothing else yet........ha.......used to be school photos so well easy quick presented........oh god this is going to take ages sort out....booo......people dont have time,,,,,,,,,,,,tony said he heard this week was new revamp.........cant ge... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2012
    mike top right put email and under put passport.........click..but the site is horrid...gets you in..but...cant find anything...top along bit saw messages .......clicked..they came up......but oh.those lovely photos school etc...oh where is everything.....denis pauline FR any suggestions...ha.....oz fred..help........

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2012
    meant....type password...of course..tony speaking.while I am typing... getting dinner,,and rush ..ha.....click left..keepsake square and own photos etc..list of own..profile bits there...but not found anything else...yet........it was so clear easy before.......very.bad revamp.....grrrrrrr

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 29-Mar-2012
    You know i'm not very good with FR Yvonne, but I had this message from them yesterday.

    We've been listening to your feedback and we've worked hard to make the things you love work better than ever before. Your schools and messages are now quicker and easier to use, to help you keep in touch with friends and old classmates.

    But it's not just old school an... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2012
    just gone through deleted..yes it did come..been so busy last weeks did not take notice..and took it off because lots emails busy lately.....stil say horrid..not time tonight to try with it...but hope to in next few days............still say it was wonderful before...quick easy just the bits that I wanted,,,,dont want not time for any new silly sites......but suppose lots others do...pity............ more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2012
    in google.....................welcome to dormers wells high school...2 extremely good films....click ..video watch.............new school.........laptops in outdoor garden restaurant table because wireless there.....2 cranes build up..over field...etc...1400 students 2011 film...says old still there,,,but if not gone yet.....only chance see old corridors hall etc before demolished.................

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 29-Mar-2012
    Yes I'd say the FR site will take some getting used to.

    Mind you these days I rarely visit it because all the re-connecting with friends happened a few years ago when FR was 'hot'. I mean we've all had the reunions, scores settled, schoolboy/girl crushes revealed and teachers good and bad remembered.

    I will say one thing though, they've removed all the 'comments' that were on posted photos ... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Mar-2012
    it was so quick so clear...not had time yet to persevere with it.....yet.......sad that photos have been messed about with........yr 2000 was big new push of computer nostalgia..loads different type sites..reducing this year..local ones................photos keep some of them going they reply to photos or just tick liked it...or facebook close them down with not enough response ticks..........mean... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Mar-2012
    I had an e-mail from FR-it referred me to a long list of FAQ's!! Not exactly what I wanted!

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Mar-2012
    ha...ha,,,they fall over themselves with..technical....I saw some of this...x..open etc...did not have minute to spare so.thought..cant be doing with this..ha...deleted it.....dont suppose we will ever see that..cosy..layout again...just took me seconds to go all over..it...great the schools etc...be weeks before I ever..have time to unravel it now...ha...wish we could have the old back again........ more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Mar-2012
    Yes see what you mean just had a look on FR what a mess

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Mar-2012
    thanks denis...wait few weeks to try sort out...weather too good....for that horrible job...grrr...fr..what shame.....

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Mar-2012
    southall community centre been renovated................was maypole institute.........was hospital wwar1...................now.done up..new windows...paved all around...all nice and white.........merrick....new road........

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Mar-2012
    gazette......2 chosen carry..... 300 metres ......torch borough ealing..24th tuesday....sydney richsrds plays football all sports 14 from brentford high greenford ave hanwell...parents thrilled....and tom thacker of southall....has learn difficulties..own flat......................party fireworks after reaches ealing end day.....park..................wonder if practice training...in wembley stadiu... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Mar-2012
    tony read google....torch northola 5 pm tues 24,july,,,starts.8.22 kingston..richmond 9.45....hounslow 11.30.later.comes northyde rd hayes...hillingdon 11.45...4pm denham...5pm northola........lady marg rd.to uxbridge rd to walpole pk ealing.broadway evening firewks party only 1 of 6 boroughs hosting overnight stay of torch,,,,,,,,25th july.harrow....stadium.stratford couple days later ....kylie m... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Apr-2012
    gazette every week........emi...vinyl factory......feb passed plans to start ...today ask...advise of people to sayy today...by summer..should be well under way..cinema wanted there etc etc jobs etc....plans on display there blyh rd all asked to see..comment......purplexed is the developer..residential block gatefold building is going ahead.......local hist society in agree..get on derelict too.lo... more >>

  • Re: FriendsReunited by John HOLMES (Member 10245597) on 1-Apr-2012
    How VERY interesting - NOT.
    If this is all you have to say, keep trying to walk upright, you'll get there eventually.
    Then again ..................

  • Re: FriendsReunited by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Apr-2012
    @ John HOLMES.

    I would sincerely recommend that you seek some medical assistance as it is evident that you are unfit to be allowed to mingle with ordinary, normal people. St Bernards was once built for people like you and "Care in the Community" has a lot to answer for. Do your parents know that you are using their computer? They soon will as any further postings will be referred to the I... more >>

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Radio in the War Years. by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 22-Mar-2012
My wife and i have been over taxing our brain as to what we listened to on the radio, We only had the light programme , and home service.   
  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2012
    as we have last week emi hayes..munition factories war wireless.....workers playtime..music while you work...sound in google..archive there..pieces of wireless programmes..womans hr ..childrens hr..bandwagon...at 16 west ave they had....tommy handley...queen to kids her margaret......lord haw haw..in town tonight..forces sweet heart...arthur askey...ann shelton...julie andrews.pet clarke as kids..... more >>

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2012
    The programme I used to dash home from school to listen to was "Toytown" with Larry the Lamb, and Ernest the Policeman and Dennis the Dachshund - a German sausage dog. "The Man in Black" with Valentine Dyall was another programme at night - usually very scary!

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2012
    Forgot to mention 'Much Binding-in-the-Marsh' a fictional Air Force base. Staffed by the motley crew of Kenneth Horne, Richard Murdoch, Maureen Riscoe, Sam Costa and Maurice Denham. Started during the war to entertain the RAF, as well as the public. Then there was Tommy Handley in "ITMA" It's that man again" We all remembered Mrs Mopp "Can I do yer now sir?"

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 22-Mar-2012
    Pauline, you have certainly stirred up a few memories. The Valentine Dyall programme as I recall was aptly titled "Appointment with Fear".
    Whar was the programme with Charlie Chester?

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2012
    I can't remember Charlie Chester's programme Michael, but I do remember that "Appointment with Fear" used to frighten the life out of me. Too scared to go to bed some nights!

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2012
    Another programme we used to listen to on the radio during the war was Albert Sandler and the Palm Court Orchestra. It was always on a Sunday.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 22-Mar-2012
    Possibly not during the war but Paul Temple.

    At least until a couple of years ago Peter Coke who starred in the lead & title rols was still alive aged 90 something.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2012
    To add too the list Dick Barton & In Town Tonight.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2012
    Denis, it's strange you mentioning "In Town Tonight", because I started humming the tune after Yvonne listed it, and then found two
    You-tubes - one by Henry Hall & the BBC Dance Orchestra (1934) of "In Town Tonight" and another one by Roy Fox. They are both on HMV gramophone records, and you can see the record going round as well. Wonderful to hear it again after all these years. It was quite nostalgic.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Zeta Stanley (Member 10256988) on 22-Mar-2012
    Was Donald Peers on during the war, I think it was on a sunday, and of course Jean Metcalf in Forces Favourites.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Mar-2012
    I think Donald Peers was in the forces during the war and sang to the troops. It was later that he had his own programme on a Sunday night. My friend and I went to see him in London among hundreds of screaming teenagers.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 23-Mar-2012
    I think you are highlighting our problem, what programmes were being relayed in the actual war years,and the popular programmes mentioned only took up a fraction of broadcasting time.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2012
    Yes, it is a job to remember programmes which were actually broadcast during the war. I have just been looking in Google at "It's all for you on Radio 2 WW11 Home Service", and there are quite a few that I had forgotten. Desert Island discs, the Radio Doctor - Dr Charles Hill, Hi Gang with Ben Lyon, Sincerely Yours with Vera Lynn, plus the daily morning and lunchtime bulletins by Alva Liddell etc. Hope this helps.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2012
    nicholas parsons.just minute bbc radio 4...on tv next week...desert disc gt every sunday..and old repeats 708 freeview every sunday ...gt show....gt people..chat life so good...old shows on there daily radio..worth ..going to....

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by LEN GODDARD (Member 10247752) on 23-Mar-2012
    Churchill speeches, Workers playtime.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 23-Mar-2012
    Yes Fred, you were quite right about Paul Temple being on during WW11. "Paul Temple, first saw the light of day in the late 1930s. Temple was a novelist and amateur sleuth and with his girl friend and later wife, Steve, he solved many crimes, with all stories set securely in a world of middle-class values. The first radio appearance of Paul Temple was in 1939 and the episodic series went on for t... more >>

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 23-Mar-2012
    Yvonne, what is the name of 708 channel? you mentioned as it wont have the same number here in Wales

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Mar-2012
    tony just read radio times with me..yes wales as well......been going couple yrs now......AV channel.freeview tv.digital box......tv remote control 708 number...daily...sound radio at tv....bbc radio 4extra...navy lark,,,,,tony hancock....dramas very stirring...sunday 10am..old desert island disc repeats..weekly.....also..radio..bbc iplayer..on computer...but lovely sound archive pieces in google.... more >>

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-Mar-2012
    Wilfred Pickles

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 23-Mar-2012
    Yes, got it now Yvonne, thought you meant T V programme. can see my mistake now , it is 708 on the radio.
    It is our T V programmes that are on different numbers to you. As we get the English and Welsh programmes here, plus last week when channels were updating ,i picked up four French programmes,where the Welsh channels should have been.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 23-Mar-2012
    P S. Was down your Way on during the War ?

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Mar-2012
    yes.................tv..channel.................but radio sound only...................old home service programmes......digital freeview box....tv remote control..708......av..................and all day ..daily.....bbc radio 4 extra......repeats old archive radio.......yes at tv screen...but sound only......................................radio times seems to say wales gets it....let us know

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Mar-2012
    Durng the war, Marguerite Patten's cooking tips on the Home Service drew six million listeners daily.

  • Re: Radio in the War Years. by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Mar-2012
    and she is on tv sometimes..now..lovely.lady..clever..worked for ministry...we had loads of her books at my library..she does channel 12...rations war memories..freeview tv..she was at buck palace for balcony cheering king queen and churchill..danced streets like eliz marg came out....

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SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Mar-2012
TOM FLYNN - Hi, my nephew David Sykes has asked me to apologise to you for the delay in replying to his plea for help. "As a rough timeline, I joined Southall Norwood in 1963/64, and left in about 1967. Talking about the Sabeys pits at Stockley jolted the geriatric brain cells. I think there were three at this time rented by Southall Norwood,Uxbridge Rovers and Southern Electric Board. I well reme... more >>   
  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Mar-2012
    pauline 1950 woolworths greenford flickr board50.they just do one offs or limited edition 10...old emi hayes.tv bbc1.7pm today...done cilla..anyone had heart..in old factory equipment used..squash soft vinyl press .old original equipment,,,stylus test record...same parlophone paper sleeve...old vinyl factory.in part of building hayes just does specials now..gazette several weeks.and reunion oldsta... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Mar-2012
    Yes, although it was Woolworths at Greenford, Yvonne, it wasn't the Woolies I remember. The mention of EMI brought some memories back though. I remember being told about a really tough bunch of women - the salt of the earth - who worked in the Press Room at the Gram, and who all came down on the early train from Paddington. They all did some really heavy work in the Press room, and woe betide any ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2012
    old woolies windows..full high..things windows though...gram..can hear family voices now speak of it..yes tease .most factories did gram emi the most..blyth rd.listed building..wallis egypt design as gt west rd..so they preserve some......gt aunt annie west born 1900 orphanage st mary northhyde..work age 12...she lodged slater...rose cathy...all worked blyth rd ..war munitions.tall polished shell... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2012
    my aunt always called it the gram..1912..piano factory...hmv..dog logo.....The gram..ophone.factory...1960 emi.we had lots redords 60s hit parade..top ten etc..1000s worked shifts piecework.photos our flickr boards..62 yrs old photo high packed windows local woolworths.dolls there dressed yourself.wool needles patterns from woolies.buttons..cardigans school.mens jumpers.socks scarf gloves.babies k... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2012
    Whent past the Gram yesterday sad all windows smashed also noticed London motor museum must call next time.

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2012
    yes its nestle ave..about 7 or so pounds entry...daily,,,,,in google....gram in process millions being spent on it......section..yesterday on tv..has been done..up cilla and special disc cut there at hayes yesterday....they use old machinery to do speicials now...new section of the building..perhaps it is around back.........was at ealing library today,,,,4 had nice chat...times locally...the 30yr... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Mar-2012
    Yes it was on BBC 7.00 the One Show was very good

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Mar-2012
    like seeing him use press...soft lac...vinyl sqeeze down...disc..then try on stylu..we all had stylus...LP.S EP,S SINGLES.still got them...taylorwimpey of office woodrow at canal....just completing,,new flats high far out onto ruislip rd now...greenford bridge big glass nice brick walls of newish lidl supermarket,entrance door right on corner at greenford bridge...high flats above..and loads flats... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    brent river....greenford bridge..extremely low....last week...they talk..of drought........lots sports being played everywhere.....2 huge fields south at greenford bridge and golf north side........olympic torch announce today details...ealing council.and police..would know time...lady marg rd..read..torch....read kylie..carry torch also....wait see what true.....................july ealing walpol... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    email from frith ..today............6.30 pm..this week bbc2..canals tonight...good southall site hanwell greenford etc,,,,,frith photos members memories.............cuckoo.have said 5/6 yrs site dying.now.lack members...they put american austraian jokes on daily there now...instead of hanwell....yr 2000 millenium.nostalgia urge.was hey day computer nostalgia chat sites....facebook...have said..problems..

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Mar-2012
    Yvonne just looked at map for Olympic torch Hounslow to hillingdon traveling in convoy not buy runner, poss not Lady Marg. Road

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    thats shame...google site month ago said western ave aladdin...northola ..lady marg rd,uxbridge rd to walpole pk ealing broadway...may still be walpole pk as party there think..council phone call would know..letting police know.....photos board50..old coal delivery lorry...sacks,,etc...fire station and training high tower southall....windmill lane photo to greenford..6.30 bbc2..canals flight locks... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    bbc in google...2012....olympics.....bbc .co.uk/2012...in google....borough ealing...scroll down..torch at .northola..kensington rd.then lady marg rd southall..high st a4020.....uxbridge rd a4020..new broadway...ealing green..st mary rd...which is south of ealing broadway..torc to...lammas pk ........is it walpole pk or lammas..evening celebration....usuually music and fireworks........torch tues ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    google ,map...shows..kensington rd..runs south from northala fields......to top lady marg..says torch continues length lady marg rd.24 july tues..not say time..........arrives ealing for...party evening with torch................says before southall....LEN...torch at north hyde rd....then onto...dawley rd........borough hillingdon..have put hayes streets on bbc site...google.....8000 miles..starts... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Mar-2012
    the info i got from BBC.CO.UK/2012, Google sounds better.

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    keep trying find time for this site..and potos also....so hard......but...google says....bbc site.....torch 24 july starts kingston...richmond..hounslow...hayes...then..northala seems after denham hillingdon....so looks like western ave.....so.later in day then lady marg to ealing..end day tuesday ealing celebration party night with torch..tues 24 july.glad to help you ..denis..you have been good.... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Mar-2012
    Sorry Yvonne your right on google after Denham.

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Mar-2012
    yes denham..hillingdon..then northala...south down to lady marg....so....must be pm by then...be great to see it.......you only one saw it last time....you deserve to,,not many left southall who saw it before like you........len past top his rd...am.......tues 24 july..pleasure to you denis...you help keep site going....

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-Mar-2012
    Thank you for that.

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2012
    ok...nice to see on tv..that the narrow boat grand union junction canal,,,,is to carry the torch.......camden.......that lovely stretch along regent pk zoo.etc...we have often walked.....spring nice...lots daffs there too..................so denham hillingdon route..they give road numbers...must be western ave into northala...there is way in there..off dual carriageway....then way out of northala ... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Mar-2012
    JUST HAD EMAIL from camra,,,pub assoc...3 horseshoes flats..planning app.gone..in..............if want anybody can put objection........now....................

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 20-Mar-2012
    My cousin Margaret, who is coincidently over from UK and staying with us at moment, used to stay at Three Horseshoes as she was friends with Angela the daughter of the owners Mr & Mrs Wade, also my Uncle Bill was a barman there when not being a fireman.

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Mar-2012
    4 photos southall firestation and tower practice on our board50..yes near opposite pub...handy...........those who want to..council planning dept ealing..before 30 mar to say if not want to be flats....mike.spoke of events..he knew of there..half dozen photos of it go back to 1890..s etc..we have of it there..architecture...pub windows..landmark..oh by 2 horseshoes junction....at kates wedding.her... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2012
    GLAD to see woolworths 1950 greenford had lots viewings..flickr board50.....denis.. your war grave havelock..new sign gone up this week..on main gate WALL.havelock rd..huge says commonwealth war graves....1883.started council cemetery by st johns.church of 1908 built. havelock after general.havelock india..many all our families buried......photos..road there etc IN 1950 .our board...........just m... more >>

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 22-Mar-2012
    Thank you will have a look next time im in Southall.

  • Re: SOUTHALL NORWOOD FISHING CLUB by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Mar-2012
    ok...this week antiq rd show tv.......wilts.his mum had on mantlepiece.1930s..gave to son 1953..blue wally bird robert wallace sculpted..southall by canal..eldest of 8 martin bros 4.worked there..£30000...small foot high..gt eyes..huge beak..grotesque unique .21.11.1896..tobacco jar head rotates..sculpt mould clay glaze fire...rare one off pieces..ealing council have collection..his mum said if m... more >>

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southall and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Mar-2012
uxbridge rd.....broadway.high st shops lists...on board50......short page here..heather and duane ask for.....northcotte parade..large bakers corner.northcote ave to .saxon rd........board 50.....and .asked for allen butcers...there.............5 night tv 6.30..john sergeant...today west london to tower bridge..goes in bridge engineering..we enjoy going in...covent gdn.veg fruit mkt..and st pauls ... more >>   
  • Re: southall and general by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Mar-2012
    Web site that you might not have seen? and be interested in.

  • Re: southall and general by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 12-Mar-2012
    http://xandreverkes.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/1892-londons-tower-bridge-under-construction/
    sorry.

  • Re: southall and general by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Mar-2012
    thanks bob...saw about mth ago....dozen photos of bridge under construction.....amazing photos really,,,was so good to see........will look at your link...did go up there for 100yrs..previous..prince wales opened..it..about 1890s....charles was there for ceremony....arrived in green aston martin his 21st birth present from queen.......tony I have seen it open ing few times,,,gt...get off the crack... more >>

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