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HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Dec-2014
Just to wish everyone who still looks in on this Southall Knowhere site of ours A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Peaceful New Year.   
  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2014
    happy Christmas to you Pauline and all members here,,

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by penny (Member 10265839) on 1-Dec-2014
    Thanks , Pauline.
    And a very happy Christmas and peaceful new year to you too - and all others who use this site.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by penny (Member 10265839) on 1-Dec-2014
    Sorry I called you Pauline, I meant Yvonne, of course! Old age creeping on!

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Dec-2014
    A happy Christmas to you as well Yvonne and for all the hard work you have put into this Site over the years.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by thompson (Member 10241148) on 1-Dec-2014
    Like wise folks. Just booked the ferry to the North Island for Christmas with the family.

    Do not look for me on facebook as I will not be there.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Dec-2014
    It's a shame Thompson as it's not just Facebook, it's "Are you an old face from Southall" which is a closed site with many old members of Knowhere Southall plus loads of Southall people. You would love it and they would love you.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2014
    yes mr Thompson...fb site talk of rowbottom Thompson..people who knew the yrs,,,thanks Pauline..so grateful to here ,enjoyment ,all the long yrs long
    time not wasted if gt joy,,interest ,pleased to hear .time goes to appreciation,happy xmas new yr to all..

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 1-Dec-2014
    I would just like to add my greetings to those of you good folk

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2014
    happy xmas and new yr mike..

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 2-Dec-2014
    I'd just like to add my best wishes for Christmas as well but also to advise Thompson that if you set up Facebook correctly you will not get bothered by loads of emails and you can merely join the closed Southall sites & the whole thing is quite benign and I was totally opposed to it until I tried it & I suppose I've been doing it for 2 months now & I've no complaints. The Southall sites on FB all... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Dec-2014
    A merry Xmas & happy new year to all

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 3-Dec-2014
    Hi all,

    that's how I have FB set up. I can only view the" Are you an old face from Southall " site. Nothing else bothers me.
    So Thompson jump in and try the water, it's not that cold.
    Merry Xmas to you all, and try and remember the Christmas,s you had in Southall, when all you had in your stocking was an Apple and Orange. sob, sob.
    And thanks to those involved for all the work done to keep ... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Dec-2014
    Yes, nothing can replace that excitement as a child, when you felt your stocking hanging up on Christmas morning and it was full of things. I remember we all congregated in my brothers bedroom and it was pitch black outside. My brother Bob bit on what he thought was something to eat wrapped up and it was plasticine! Those days, although hard, will never be forgotten.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Dec-2014
    happy xmas to all 50s quiet times of material things but lots of people in the house busy bustle..woolworths gt at top of the road,

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 4-Dec-2014
    I have been looking on SB ref the latest on FB ref the arcade.
    I cannot believe the different subjects I have trawled through looking for the arcade. Al Bowlly, (I have a few of his CD,s) Lillian Board, the Humphreys family, Kelvin gardens. And lots more this old grey matter forgot. Maybe some of those oldies could be revisited as more could be added. Also a few of the names I looked at are no longer contributing.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 4-Dec-2014
    yes bowley buried uxb rd hanwell cemetery...board 2 roads named after her

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 7-Dec-2014
    And from me as well to you all

    I really am hooked on the Southall Facebook closed sites now. REALLY recommend

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2014
    happy xmas keith

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Dec-2014
    if you click word photos.. at the top....or type in hanwell to the search slot on top right ,,you get hanwell ,scroll through

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 11-Dec-2014
    Found you all by chance and wondering if any old friends are out there. Potted history: Born 1944 Frogmore nursing home Norwood Green. Lived 24, Adelaide Road and Clifton Road School until 8 years old, moved to Stanley road off Broadway until 1966 Tudor Road school and Grammar later.
    Played football for Waxlow on Rec western road and Southall Wanderers on Spikes Bridge. Worked for Hygrade Corrugated Hanwell

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Dec-2014
    several people..of..all,..you say..all your list..items..people..of here or at our other site...other site .most people chat daily..know .your list..photos as well...colin harris..here is admin..can join you...called............are you .an..old face southall....facebook..several long yrs daily chat etc..replies for you..best wishes welcome...annual fete still norwood green etc,

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by penny (Member 10265839) on 12-Dec-2014
    Hello Roger Humm,
    You've found this site just when it's on its last legs after many years. All the contributors seem to have migrated to the Facebook page which is very easy to use and is a closed group so you don't get pestered by anyone else.
    By the way, do you have any memories of Keith and Barrie Mead. They both went to Southall Grammar and played for the local football team. Born 1945 and 1947.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 12-Dec-2014
    Hi Penny, Thanks for the info, Barrie Mead does ring a bell but could not put a face to it. When you say he played for local team any recollection of the team name. I noticed the site seems very quiet. Unfortunately I would not go anywhere near facebook whatever the reason in fact this is the only site of this type I have ventured near in this fashion in the 20 years I have had a pc. Have a great xmas.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Dec-2014
    I thought exactly the same as you Roger and so did a few of us. However, it is a CLOSED SITE and is perfectly safe. None of us would have left this site, but I'm afraid the contributions were getting less and less. The beauty of Facebook "Are you an old face from Southall" is that there are some wonderful photographs of the Southall we all knew, plus many older than that. Be brave and have a go. A... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Dec-2014
    Hi Roger i worked for Hygrade Trumpers Way Hanwell what date

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Dec-2014
    Roger Pauline is right i had my misgiving its great with pics to

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 12-Dec-2014
    Hi Dennis,
    My time at Hygrade went from 1959 until 61-62. My first job at 15, office boy apprentice working in each dept in turn learning the ropes. Remember Frank Ribeiro from sample dept, Neville Galliford estimating, Mr Stephenson Office Man, Mrs Macdonald typing pool. Brian Hardie factory liason.
    Frank Gardner Factory manager, Ralph Beaman Sales Manager and others if I think long enough. Use... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 12-Dec-2014
    Now thers a thing i started Oct 1959 then left My 1960 to go to Hygrade Nelson Lancashire when that started up, i worked in the fitters shop under Mr Rose works engineer. I think i made some hole punches for Frank Ribeiro in samples

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 12-Dec-2014
    Hi Dennis,
    Rather than annoy other people with our trivia if you would like to drop a line to sirius02@talktalk.net we can have a separate natter about Hygrade.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Dec-2014
    Hi Roger we can talk on here or FB nobody will be upset by our chat on Hygrade, can i ask do you still live in the area

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Dec-2014
    Yes, you're quite right Denis, and maybe your conversations will trigger off other people's memories. It's always worked on our Knowhere Guide and it still does on Facebook.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Dec-2014
    Thats right Pauline thats how it works

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 14-Dec-2014
    Hi Dennis,
    I moved away from southall in 1966 when I married. For the last 40 years I have lived in a small village on the Suffolk/Essex border.I have not set foot in Southall for at least 20 years then only drove through for old times sake and frankly it made me very sad. Within two years of 66 my mother and father and aunts and uncles had all moved away. Going back to Hygrade I remember Nelson ... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Dec-2014
    Hi Roger I worked for Hygrade in Nelson for 2 yrs i dont know what Hanwell was like by 1962 but Nelson had become a kill me quick shop people were having heat attacks losing fingers ect due to the pressure. I see your view of Southall is the opposite to mine i still call in there when i can & take a few... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 15-Dec-2014
    Hi Dennis,
    My family all died during the 70's and 80's. They had all moved to the same village and thoroughly immersed themselves in village life. My wife has a sister who still lives in West Drayton. In my teen years I would go over to spikes bridge park on a sat/sun morning and unless you got there before nine oclock there would be no space left on the whole park to join in the many games going... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Dec-2014
    Hi Roger i lived in Lady Margaret Road it sounds like you lived Near there, if you whant to have a look at Southall in recent times go to my Flicker site (d.sexton428) there are quite a few pics on there, all my family like yours passed on in the 1970/80. I remember sports days at Spikes bridge park all t... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Dec-2014
    Hi Roger

    Until recently this was a very active site, but now nearly everyone has moved to 2 x other sites. Please can somebody e~mail Roger the links so that he can enjoy the photos and get in touch with everyone in the old group? Thanks

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 15-Dec-2014
    Hi Dennis & Keith,
    Look forward to getting the links Keith.
    Dennis you sparked a memory or two now. Spikes bridge sports day. one year I won the high jump jumped 5 ft and went on to the county finals in Acton. On the day guy comes up with clipboard and states we are starting at 5 feet 3 inches needless to say I went under it more than over. Now do you remember the Ellis family from Lady Margare... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2014
    did one of the ellis have history teacher southall as ,,an older woman mrs ellis..

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2014
    your flickr is nice denis....428,,in google..
    roger
    flickr photos good in google
    southallboard,,,
    5yrs now .many many photos southall hanwell Green... more >>

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2014
    lots photos dominion in google....
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=images+of+dominion+cinema+southall+middlesex&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=images+of+dominion+cinema+southall+middlesex&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=1162f4d6827d4ca6a87f52adf28bf171
    just put dominion southall in google

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Dec-2014
    in google
    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=photos++of+dominion+southall+middlesex&qpvt=photos++of+dominion+southall+middlesex&FORM=IGRE

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 16-Dec-2014
    Could somebody please send the Facebook links for Roger Humm (see above)

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Roger Humm (Member 10298243) on 16-Dec-2014
    Dennis, Keith, anyone
    Does anyone remember in the late 50s & 60s a chap by the name of Willy Wilcox who used to have a fruit & veg barrow by the side of Burtons and the snooker hall he was our goalkeeper and a real character

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Dec-2014
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/189104814560516/

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Dec-2014
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/189104814560516/photos/

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Dec-2014
    Hi Roger nice winning the high jump at Spikes, where did the Ellis family live in Lady Margaret Road can you remember.

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Dec-2014
    There was an Ellis family living in Palgrave Avenue in my time in Southall-up to 1954

  • Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Dec-2014
    1954 if mrs ellis was history teacher,,,we had her,,,palgrave ave,,,near,,,

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Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Oct-2014
I just looked at our old site to see what's going on and........
It's now an estate agents site. So am I the only looking at this site now.
Although i,m looking to rent a dive in Southall from anyone.
  
  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 25-Oct-2014
    I meant to say I,m not looking to rent a dive from Dave in Southall.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-Oct-2014
    No Tom,you're not the only one still looking at our old site. I think it's quite sad when I think how busy it was a few years ago. I joined this site in 2009 and thought how marvellous it was. Let's face it though, there were only a dedicated few of us still using it regularly!

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Carol (Member 10254505) on 25-Oct-2014
    I still look to see if there are any messages.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by penny (Member 10265839) on 26-Oct-2014
    I always check in case there's something of interest but adverts seem to have taken over.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Oct-2014
    Good to see some entries-I would hate tp lose this site-I have made so mamy goof friends.
    Ironically, since the site has been little used, it seems never to have gone off air??

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Oct-2014
    I must admit, even though FB is far busier, I,m sure the majority are a different age group to us. Don't recognise many of the names, and most seem to be talking about the 70,s onwards.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 26-Oct-2014
    I agree Tom. Very few names I know on FB. I would love to have contact with some of my old friends but no names I know.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2014
    I still look in from time to time

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Oct-2014
    I said it never goes of now

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 26-Oct-2014
    I get an email if there are any updates so only look then.
    Yes Facebook members are mostly younger than those on here but maybe there aren't so many of us left now that are up to date with technology.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Oct-2014
    lynette if you put friend name in slot fb..general name search fb members in general..see if any names that come up you know ..send private message to name...if they do not use sites but joined fb at some yr gone...then they will get fb email from you lynette.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 27-Oct-2014
    HI, Old Uns;
    Glad you are back, I have just come across a Printed Post Card Card from the BOROUGH OF SOUTHALL dated 24th January 1942 saying I was Presented with a COG BADGE in recognition of my Efforts in Collecting Waste Paper for the BOROUGHs SALVAGE CAMPAIGN. Signed by the MAYOR. I was 6 Years Old then. Does anybody Else remember anything about this.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2014
    very interesting ..cog badge thanks...there was...that type of thing ..mayor involved./..in southall book by oates 1982...he has photos that sort of thing..1942 yrs,,war,,book with southall town hall on cover....
    if you were on facebook you would be able to put photo postcard for us all to see with your comment...it all goes on together there ...southall nostalgia memories site facebook...several... more >>

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2014
    penny......if you join..facebook...an old face southall...you will see all memories.nostalgia...photos there...colin.chris.stephen.robin tom etc...40s 50s 60s....some 30s 40s 50s...1970 yr...louise barbs annie..Stephen etc some still live there........etc years people there...schools western rd girls school friends meet chat there and st anselm etc..neighbours friends coach trips photos of groups.... more >>

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2014
    dennis got poster etc in google cogs 1942.war and all other posters pictures of war ..things..
    http://www.iwm.org.uk/learning/resources/second-world-war-posters

    kids join cogs..1942 yrs..sang song to there always be an England...but sang verse...there always be a dustbin...

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Oct-2014
    Good to see the old names appearing again.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by penny (Member 10265839) on 1-Nov-2014
    How do I make a comment on the Southall face book site. I thought I'd joined the closed group but every time I type a comment it disappears!

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2014
    perhaps join again....type in colin harris...in slot ..and go to him.profile...message there type in message,,,he would join you....the ..type in reply comment under,,each posting...or in top.click left..left side of photo posting..click there and box opens to you to.type your posting comment....let us know penny we can help..colin can help he is admin.....

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2014
    after typing...you have to press your enter key...then it loads on facebook...an old face southall..

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Nov-2014
    have put it on for you penny.....now try put type under...enter......was 2 yrs after you penny yes writing..ha..yes..dr
    aw lines and margin///

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 2-Nov-2014
    Lynette ware I,m looking for you on FB are you on there. If so which one.
    Tom

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Lynette Ware (Member 10283192) on 2-Nov-2014
    Tom Flynn, I am both Southall sights but not really on Facebook. If you want to contact me on my e- mail it is ware2@shaw.ca
    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Lynette

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 4-Nov-2014
    Here's one for the experts. I have been onto friends reunited, trying to find a couple of picture I located of my brother in the 1949 football team.
    It's not very friendly now. I cannot even find dormers let alone pictures. Anyone got any ideas.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 5-Nov-2014
    HI TOM;
    I have just logged onto Friends Reunited, tapped in Dormers Wells and it came up OK, I must admit I have not used used this site since about 2010.
    I left in 1949, there several Pictures of Football Teams on view.
    Regards DEN

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2014
    did it....not so many photos as used to be ...old site 3 yrs ago..seemed lots dormers photos

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 5-Nov-2014
    Dennis,I seem to remember we had contact on the old Friends Reunited site-about the V1 that fell in Southall Park-as I recall you lived in Burns Avenue.
    Good to see you still in circulation!

  • Re: Is there anybody there by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 5-Nov-2014
    HI MIchael;
    Yes still around, Turned 80 this year, celebrated 60 years Married, I seem to remember we often spoke via Email. Nice to see you on this Site quite often.
    Dennis

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 5-Nov-2014
    Well every time I put in Dormers Wells it can't find it.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 5-Nov-2014
    Hi Dennis, I,m sure my brother left in 49. Had 2 brothers at Dormers then. Fred the eldest, Sid the youngest.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 5-Nov-2014
    Friends has just let me in, blimey half the photo,s I saw last year have gone.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Nov-2014
    yes I thought many photos gone

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Nov-2014
    Dennis-I am somewhat older-86-but we trod the same turf all those years ago.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Nov-2014
    Yes Michael we did tread the same turf all thoes years ago, happy days all gone for ever.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Nov-2014
    Hi Tom i think your brothers were a bit before my time i left 1958.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Nov-2014
    Michael i think it was the bomb in Lady Margaret road we talked of i have never lived in Burns Ave

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Nov-2014
    Thank you Micheal

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Nov-2014
    Thank you Micheal

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Nov-2014
    My comment was to Dennia legge-sorry to cause confusion

  • Re: Is there anybody there by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 13-Nov-2014
    I used to look at this most days, but today is my first time this month.

    I too have joined the Facebook site now. Loads of names of lovely people there.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Nov-2014
    Ok Micheal

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-Nov-2014
    out for day..site back now

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 23-Nov-2014
    Back up, but no one using the site.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 24-Nov-2014
    HI TOM,
    it is getting a pain keep losing this site, and just in case we lose it altogether I will Wish all Old and Young SOUTHALLIANS a VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND PROPEROUS NEW YEAR.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Nov-2014
    happy xmas dennis and.all..easy to join facebook..an old face southall...colin harris would join you,,daily there lot southall people..all yrs..over 5 yrs now...they get more advertising money .most people yrs now all towns join..nostalgia etc,,,,..so keep going ok..

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-Nov-2014
    Good to see these entries.Reminds me 1st December is just a week away.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 26-Nov-2014
    Hi all,
    Is it me, or is there an issue with FB at the moment.
    Cannot get any comments or updates.......

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 27-Nov-2014
    Merry Xmas & a happy new year to all on FB & Message board if we dont get the chance to do it later.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Nov-2014
    fb ..seems ok..daily...
    happy xmas new yr to all knowhere.....incase it goes off..seasons greetings denis..and great new yr..2015 queen longest on throne more than Victoria..raf 100yrs 2015,,

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Nov-2014
    Tom - Have you tried logging out and logging back in again. My daughter suggested this, not me! It might work!

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 27-Nov-2014
    All sorted now, put it down to pilot error.

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Nov-2014
    site back

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 29-Nov-2014
    Yippee-good to see it!

  • Re: Is there anybody there by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Nov-2014
    For how long

  • Re: Is there anybody there by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Dec-2014
    pinch punch 1st month no returns,,,,,,,,white rabbits,,,gt December happy xmas

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2 BEDROOM FLAT IN HAVELOCK RD, OLD SOUTHALL by pete (Member 10296376) on 8-Oct-2014
NICE AND CLEAN 2 BEDROOM FIRST FLOOR BALCONY FLAT AVAILABLE FOR RENT RIGHT AWAY IN SOUTHALL..

£1100

CALL PETER:074044 808 66 FOR MORE INFO
  
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3 BEDROOM FLAT ON LADY MARGARET RD, SOUTHALL TO RENT by pete (Member 10296376) on 8-Oct-2014
A SPACIOUS 3 BEDROOM FIRST FLOOR FLAT AVAILABLE TO LET IN SOUTHALL, AVAILABLE FURNISHED, BALCONY FLAT WITH SECURE ENTRY-PHONE SYSTEM

£1300

CALL PETER:074044 808 66 FOR MORE INFO
  
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The Etheringtons by April Ashton (Member 10052885) on 7-Oct-2014
The Etheringtons were a family who lived in Southall for many years. As a child I knew Winnie Etherington, nee Brooks, who was a friend of my Mothers. I believe that she moved to Kent with her husband Bob and son Roger, c.1950's. I have tried tracing details about them through Ancestry but their electoral rolls for Southall are not downloading in entirety. Does anyone have any knowledge of thi... more >>   
  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2014
    dairy high st north side uxbridge rd southall..them....http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/growingup/page5.html
    http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/growingup/page5.html

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2014
    joan of them and her parents southall..st john wedding...
    http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/etherington/messages/285.html

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2014
    Charles 1864 southall...and 1891 etherington census southall..free on line.....
    http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/etherington/messages/231.html

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2014
    George 32 and family high rd high st uxbridge rd southall..1891 census...free here,,,,
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdx1891census/1021/EN8.HTML

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2014
    1997.....he writes

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15621107.300-letters-------.html
    dairy by school passage to north rd..north side uxbridge rd..famous market on other side of road,,cinema etc..was white hart pub and George dragon pub gone....but redlion pub hotel still there

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Oct-2014
    Any connection to the Etheringtons who had an irommomgers in North Road. There was also a Brooks family in North road

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Oct-2014
    sounds good Michael

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2014
    april.........etherington .members facebook.....family group.......and tony etherington member fb...worked 1969 heathrow airport

  • Re: The Etheringtons by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Oct-2014
    lots etherington...local..there members facebook....brian of Greenford.....simon of hayes manor.....john of hayes.....roger of Northolt...Northolt high school 1980s...

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Southall Facebook by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 5-Oct-2014
Hi

I have joined the Facebook sites, but one of the local village idiots has already hacked into my timeline. Sorry if you get messages from somebody called "Al". This is what has ALWAYS worried me about Facebook.
  
  • Re: Southall Facebook by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 5-Oct-2014
    Never mind Keith we will just talk to him about his rafia!!

  • Re: Southall Facebook by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 5-Oct-2014
    You can block him Keith.

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Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 5-Oct-2014
Hi I'm a new member just found this site when looking for back ground of Le Grand Sutcliff and Gel I used to work for them doing labouring work years back for a couple of years. I started working for them when they done the site investigation work for the East Dereham Bi-pass and after that contract was finished being a young man living in Norfolk decided I would move with them was great working a... more >>   
  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Carol (Member 10254505) on 5-Oct-2014
    Hi Dennis

    My dad used to work for Le Grands and I can remember going to stay with somebody he was working with in Dereham. I was only about 8 at the time. I also worked at Le Grands later on in the 60s.

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 6-Oct-2014
    Hi Carol, like I said Carol I had some great times working for Le Grand within those two years.

    From what I was told at the end of that contract in Dereham Le Grand lost all there profit on the last bore hole apparently the area where we had to bore the last hole was for a fly over bridge support leg and they needed to find some solid underground support,but there was nothing but this grey silt... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Carol (Member 10254505) on 6-Oct-2014
    Dennis - that's really interesting what happened in Norfolk. I never heard that story. From what I can remember we went to Norfolk to stay with these people because whoever lived in the house was offering my dad a job with really good money. I think we would have had to move from what I can make out and that was the reason he turned the job down. Don't know what the job was - as I said I was r... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 6-Oct-2014
    Carol, I very rarely went into the office apart from when starting a new contract and them telling me who I would be working along side.I remember them putting me with this guy who no one else could work with I think the contract was at HMS Pembroke naval base or something like that I was with him for about 3 Days and had enough of him and rang the base and told them if they did not move me I woul... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Oct-2014
    Dennis - I have a booklet issued by Le Grands from 1960. You can see the pages on this link https://www.flickr.com/photos/115710602@N02/
    There is also a page with the foremen at the time which shows my dad and two of his brothers. There is also an obituary for another brother who had just died. I haven't put either of these pages onto flickr though. Think there are about 10 foremen on the page... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 7-Oct-2014
    Hi Carol I've been trying to put a date on when I worked there I think it was around the 1968/69 area because when the work dried up they layed me off and I returned to Dereham and got a job at Crane Fruehauf Ltd trailer/Tank manufacturers and stayed with them for 35years as a fitter/welder and eventually I was made up as a foreman a they then went bust I will be sixty four this November and livin... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Oct-2014
    Dennis, my dad would have still been working there in the late 60s.

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 7-Oct-2014
    Carol so from your earlier post he had some one working along side him on a rig that came from Dereham can you remember his name what was his Sir name and where about in Dereham did he live.Did your dad work on the Dereham Bi-pass contract.

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 7-Oct-2014
    Carol there were two men I worked with in Dereham one was a Scotchman may have been called Jock and the other was an Asian guy I think they called Hurrigan or something like that now he was mad health and safety didn't exist in his books I remember we had to do two boreholes on the side of a railway line and on each side of the track was a slope and the only way to get to the area to bore the hole... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Oct-2014
    Sorry Dennis, I can't remember the name of the people we stayed with. All I remember is that we stayed at their house but didn't go out anywhere to visit places or anything. Just remember being bored all day with nothing to do. Names I have in the booklet I have that were foremen were Wally Adams, Arthur "Darkie" Collins, Mick McGlory, Arthur Frost, George West, I. Taylor and Doug Miles. In ch... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Oct-2014
    Sorry Dennis, I can't remember the name of the people we stayed with. All I remember is that we stayed at their house but didn't go out anywhere to visit places or anything. Just remember being bored all day with nothing to do. Names I have in the booklet I have that were foremen were Wally Adams, Arthur "Darkie" Collins, Mick McGlory, Arthur Frost, George West, I. Taylor and Doug Miles. In ch... more >>

  • Re: Dereham,Norfolk by Dennis Sayer (Member 10296283) on 8-Oct-2014
    Carol,were all or some involved in the Dereham Bi-pass contract.

    When I joined up with Phil from Kent we ended up with on a contract in Taunton Somerset(Bi-pass)for 16 weeks great weather made lots of friends couldn't shake the landladies 14year old daughter of my back every time I came home from work she would sit there with her school friend watching over me in the end I had to have a quiet w... more >>

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Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 25-Sep-2014
Can you post a link please?   
  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2014
    they have all been on facebook southall quite few weeks now quite a while now all of them..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Sep-2014
    Thank you, Yvonne

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Sep-2014
    Keith - why don't you join Facebook. I know you will enjoy it. It takes a little bit of getting used to, but there are some wonderful photographs that we see, and a lot of lovely members, plus many interesting posts.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Sep-2014
    Pauline, I shall do that. Thank you.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-Sep-2014
    I'm pleased you have decided to join Facebook Keith. When you do, join both "are you a old face from Southall" and "Are you an old face from Southall". If you have any problems I'm sure plenty of us will help you.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 26-Sep-2014
    Keith, take Paulines advice and join both groups.Many of us from Knowhere are on them now. I have been for years. I'm sure you will find both groups very good.Good luck.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 26-Sep-2014
    Thank goodness to see some life agaon-thanks folks

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by thompson (Member 10241148) on 27-Sep-2014
    I have no wish or intention to join Facebook or twitter. A friend spend hours on facebook just to see what his daughter has posted each day. Telling the world all of her problems and how her life is, plus daily photos of her and her children.

    I will stick with this site if I have anything to say!!

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2014
    best wishes to you.people like us like you ..are on southall fb....nice comments memories photos...different facebook are very different indeed..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2014
    it is monitored ..admin..to keep the site nice...so interesting and many people like us all like ourselves find very interesting enjoyable they all say

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Sep-2014
    Dear Thompson - I thought that at first, but these two Southall sites are not like that. "Are you an old face from Southall" is a closed site, and there are Administrators who keep an eye on everything, and would soon ban a person who was unsuitable. "are you a old face from Southall" is not a closed site, but still enjoyable. Lots of old photos to remind us of the Southall we all once knew, plus ... more >>

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-Sep-2014
    I used to think like you Thompson about everyone knowing your business, but it's very similar to our own site. Most members are a bit younger than us, but we all learn from each other.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Chris (Member 10220786) on 27-Sep-2014
    Thompson and anyone else who is unsure about joining the FB SITE....you can join and just look, you don't have to participate. As Pauline has said, the photos from days gone are wonderful. It warms my heart yo see OUR SOUTHALL as it was. My advice ...GIVE IT A TRY .....Chris x

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Sep-2014
    lovely words chris and Pauline ,,,yes indeed.so lucky we are to have southall sites and with precious photos jog nostalgia.etc..many lovely people how lucky we are..read or just chat..big thankyou to the groups and members..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 29-Sep-2014
    I agree with what Pauline & Chris said, I swore I would never join Facebook but on these 2 closed sites, if you set it up correctly you will only see things when you log in & you will not get any communication from them.

    I used to look at this site everyday but now i could go 10 days or more & not bother. The other 2 sites are so much better in that you can upload photos etc. I'm very happy with them.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2014
    yes can stop long list emails to you....just scroll down.site..peoples work of nice photos comments ..aren't we lucky...nice people generous time effort..interesting friendly folk.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Sep-2014
    I've got somebody coming round on Thursday to show me how to get on to the Facebook sites. But if they are "closed", will I be able to get in??

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2014
    fb..type member colin harris,,,southall..send him private message he has message place...he will add you...keith then site will open up to you easy..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Sep-2014
    I will send him message now to say you want to join.....just see it ..free .,,if you don't want to use it does not matter,,,,

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 29-Sep-2014
    Keith, once you have your Facebook account set up, it is fairly simple to join a Facebook Group, just put Southall in the search box at the top of the page and it will bring a list of Facebook pages with Southall in their name. Click on the relevant one and when the page displays click on the "Join Group" green button, this will generate a message to the Group admins and one of us will add you, an... more >>

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Sep-2014
    Thank you Colin
    I hope to be joining you all on Thursday

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Sep-2014
    Look forward to seeing you Keith.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 30-Sep-2014
    Yes, the more of us oldies the better. Both great groups with wonderful photos and memories and photos are instant. No having to go on flickr to see the latest.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 30-Sep-2014
    I thought the same, seeing those in the family on FB reading what everyone had for breakfast, or what colour socks they had on. So I thought it's not for me. BUT log on to those two Southall sites only and it's great. Just like this site but with the pictures and a photo of those adding comments. And it don't breakdown every time it rains.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 30-Sep-2014
    I could have "liked" that comment on the Facebook site. Why does everyone seem so frightened to use it. Most youngsters don't bother with it now as they use Twitter or Instagram so it's becoming an old fogeys way of keeping in touch. It's been so good to see new faces many from Knowhere at last joining these groups.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 1-Oct-2014
    Thank you for the "liked" comment Dilys.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Oct-2014
    Thanks everyone. I've now joined the 2 closed facebook pages and had my acceptance confirmed.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2014
    well done...click photos...top right side ...and scroll down yrs collections photos etc...along the top..says photos ..links etc..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2014
    top photo of colins..gas and water tower...words under says photos...files...great files click open ok..of norwood green etc etc....walks of heritage book pages hanwell ealing etc..Greenford...in the word files..west ealing often in comments..hanwell cinema..grand Curzon to warehouse photos and memories...are on site..lots on Greenford..photos etc..river brent etc..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Oct-2014
    Thank you again
    I have two old friends who now live in USA & Canada
    John Smith and John Utley. Could they please be allowed to join the closed sites too?? They would love to see the old photos.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Oct-2014
    as colin.put to you...they register to be on facebook...then .they put into colin harris .admin and no problem join ok...there are several there from oz and usa etc..

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 3-Oct-2014
    Welcome to Facebook Keith. Glad you've finally done it.

  • Re: Where's everyone gone? by denise blake (Member 10248715) on 30-Nov-2014
    Keith my daughter is in USA and she is on the f/book Southall sites,the people on them are very friendly,lovely photos of years ago and present,youll enjoy them and admin are very good,

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL BRADEN by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Sep-2014
Wishing you a very Happy Birthday Michael. Hope you have a Wonderful day. Love from Pauline xxx   
  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL BRADEN by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2014
    Thanks Pauline-weather could be better!
    Good to see something on here!!

  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL BRADEN by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Sep-2014
    Never mind about the weather Michael. A glass or two of something nice will make it all the better!

  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL BRADEN by Chris (Member 10220786) on 6-Sep-2014
    Cheers! Have a wonderful birthday Mike. It is sad that t his site is not visited as much as it was in the past ... But. ... FB is interesting too. Nice to see photos included with some of the posts. It was KNOWHERE that helped us begin our journey down memory lane. Amazing how I knew John. Then Sandra too. Chris x

  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL BRADEN by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 6-Sep-2014
    I agree with Pauline enjoy Tom & michael

  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL BRADEN by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 6-Sep-2014
    very happy birthday mike.happy returns of the day..lots of good wishes.your special day.congratulations .x.from us

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAE; by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 6-Sep-2014
Wishing you a very Happy Birthday Michael. Hope you have a Wonderful day. Love from Pauline xxx   
  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAE; by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 6-Sep-2014
    Many thanks to all you good Southall folk.
    Have had a matvellous say with members of the family/
    86 not out-sobering thought!

  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAE; by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Sep-2014
    so glad you had great day lots of good wishes to you and family..yesterday 5 people ticked happy birthday wishes they sent you on fb.from them also .site picture happy card too you..fb

  • Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAE; by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Sep-2014
    site off.back again

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SCRATTAGE by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Aug-2014
Somebody has kindly given me a "Hounslow, Heston & Whitton Chronicle" dated August 15th
On page 12 is an article and photo of Scrattage
  
  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 26-Aug-2014
    That's interesting Keith. I once lived in Whitton but wasn't aware of this paper. Anyway, in researching my family history over the years, i found one of my Johnson ancestors lived in Scrattage, never heard of it before. Is part of Isleworth or Heston do you know?

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Aug-2014
    Janice

    The paper is one of the "free" ones that gets pushed through the doors. It says its for "Hounslow, Cranford, Heston, Isleworth, Whitton and surrounding villages". One was pushed through the door of a relative's house in Hampton last week and she brought it down (I live in Arundel) at the weekend for me to read. It says its "your local edition of the Hounslow Chronicle series". ... more >>

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    on line for long time now..
    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/all-about/hounslow

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    over yr ago/scrattage of family tree was asked
    put on old map.details then..
    Heston Isleworth area..over by Osterley..hamlet scrattage...
    mine are of area 1800s 1900s..
    in google ..info...scrattage.etc...

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    chronicle this friday Osterley bankholiday medieval..arena events lots there cameraman..paper took photos...for paper..

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    whitten my cousin lived..hubby Feltham//myself heston..lived

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    menday15aug scrattage..change over yrs ...he is over 90 /obe from queen....lives Feltham..localhistorian and for chronicle over 40yrs..worked sperry gtwestrd ..

    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/all-about/hounslow
    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/news-opinion/looking-back-eddie-menday-changing-7622274

    scrattage page on line...hedid lastweek

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    Hounslow well known..hubby Hounslow grammar
    1860 scrattage ..and1805 map
    jersey rd area.by Osterley tube station..gtwest rd.
    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/news-opinion/looking-back-eddie-menday-changing-7622274
    chronicle here.
    book b... more >>

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    archive of menday history yrs inpaper articles in google on line....local whitton scrattage Heston etc etc..1800s 1900s.

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Aug-2014
    Of course!!! . I never thought the article might be available on line.
    This one was written by "Eddie Menday"

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    he writes for them often..over40 yrs ..over 90 lives Feltham..on fb...obe.3 yrsago from queen...lots links google....scrattage/

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    wrote to him 2 yrs ago..his is my .hubbys maternal side surname from Feltham bedfont like him..1800s1900s....

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Aug-2014
    Interesting that. Never come across that surname before.

    Here in Sussex some surnames VERY common (such as Gunn, Gumbrell) that are much rarer in London

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=scrattage+middlesex&form=IE10TR&src=IE10TR&pc=CMNTDFJS

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    4 different spelllings rural folk..1800s not school really..lived on land farm of modern heathrow....used old3 magpies pub.of fame..censuses..bapt..marriages .burials..

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    we are just back from Chichester..theharbour etc..mary rose was gt again..gt harbour cruise navy etc..

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Aug-2014
    We are thinking of moving from Arundel to Selsey

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    google sale os detailed map.1894 scrattage...with Osterley pk station..the old one..and st mary

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    1889..1891...scrattage farm..ingoogle..

    did put all on here2 yrs ago at request here

    census...Heston..scrattage springgrove..as over Isleworth side..
    1844 in google families...

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    we went selsey..nice..Patrick moore telescope..lifeboat

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    extremely good map 1860 1890 in google detail vision Britain.scrattage...st mary..jersey rd by and old London rd. a4..became gt west rd..syon lane of windmill lane...south to springgrove..south to Isleworth woodland thames....scrattage farm.by Osterley park walled estate..earl jersey....rail there....vision Britain..close up detail..Victorian..

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    for census....it is vaste parish of Heston and Isleworth...but in Osterley pk south area....map..st mary the church..1901 family there from 1844...many moved to area..labourers moving then moving on..tythe working cottages rented...

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    british hist on line 1820 map .enlarges clear 2 farmhouses ..several lab cottages....scrattage lane modern times called jersey rd..along wall of mansion hse Osterley lord jersey..shows dwellings..rail.heston Isleworth census huge parish.........but church scrattage st mary springgrove Isleworth area..on map.

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    scrattage area here....http://www.hounslow.info/libraries/local-history-archives/scrattage-lane-osterley/

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Janice Johnson (Member 10240407) on 27-Aug-2014
    Keith ... Yvonne
    Thank you both for the information. I shall take a look at my family history papers again to refresh my mind and then try to trace if the place they lived is still in existence. Beats doing the housework!!

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    ok

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    street view..in google..show my street goes along jersey rd..new.1934 built says google..new rail station 1934...new houses for London commuters....was called scrattage lane pre around yrs of 1900....2 farms houses 1800s yrs mr brown brickmaking all gone..built up area.now fine houses ..suburbs houses since 1934 new tube station opened there piccadily line 1925 new gt west rd London rd..built thro... more >>

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 27-Aug-2014
    Hi

    That's ok Janice

    Stations were originally built by the District railway to Hounslow Barracks, and later to Hounslow West. Piccadilly line came much later, and both then used it to about 1964 when District Line services were cut off from Hounslow branch and left to Picc to run

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    strong preservation heritage suburbia Osterley nice people many yrs fought for .so much lost scrattage thornbury..of new piccadily .line..1934..lost old station used at bookshop yrs...new art deco station built and London rd..new 1925 gt west rd carved through more..loss of their hamlet area scrattage.thornbury.springgrove of banks the botanist...lovely map in google lampton road was their road sw... more >>

  • Re: SCRATTAGE by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-Aug-2014
    myself walked it daily..commute to bbc tv centre ref library..off hammersmith...footpath field of Osterley hole in wall gate still there field to back of Heston church we lived 60s 70s....so home again out of Osterley station old scrattage area ..hole in wall gate of earl jersey estate field to our house end of path..35 mins..or so

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Last visit to Southall? by Chris (Member 10220786) on 7-Aug-2014
When did you last visit a Southall? I went appx 5 years ago with my daughter. Via train to Ealing Broadway then 207 to the ODEON.....now Lidls. We walked down the market, just to look. I worked on a Grocery Stall there in the 50's. It was next to the Chocolate King...or Sweet King. Then we walked down North a Road to look at my parents shop ( number 45). They ran the shoe repair shop from 1... more >>   
  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Aug-2014
    I visited a few weeks ago when I went to Havelock Cemetery to find out where my aunt was buried. Was sorry to see the sad state of the cemetery which hasn't been looked after. Traffic was a nightmare.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 7-Aug-2014
    My Gran is buried there, Mum used to go and lay flowers every week, no matter what the weather was. I have not been there since I started at Dormers. Although in my minds eye I think I could still find it. But in them days it was a pleasure to visit. So why has it been allowed to go the way it has.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Aug-2014
    Tom, you can write or e-mail for the plot number. Have to pay though. At one time a few years back I just rang up and they told me there and then.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Aug-2014
    I've got a diagram of the plot numbers if that would help.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Aug-2014
    My Mum is in Havalock Cemetery with her Mum, i remember going with her every spring to put Daffs on Grans grave & now i go to see them both when i am in Southall

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 8-Aug-2014
    This morning, I walked down the canal from Yeading to Spikes Bridge, up Dane Road along the Broadway to Lady Margaret Road, then down to Carlyle Avenue and back to the park.

    The Broadway is even more of a mess than usual at the moment, with all the roadworks to "improve" pedestrian safety, seems more like a way for TFL to waste money to me. If they wanted to improve the Broadway it would have b... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Aug-2014
    When I worked in The Broadway in the 50s shops were not allowed to put anything outside on the pavement and every evening before we closed we had to sweep the pavement outside the shop.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Aug-2014
    Yhe last I heard from my sister whose husband has relatives in Southall was that all the alleyways that we used to be able to walk through at the back of the shops are now all filled in with rubbish, mattresses, etc. In our days there was no rubbish at all.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Aug-2014
    The last time i walked around the back of Lady Margaret parade shops the alley at the back was a disgrace rubbish everywhere, we used to ride our bikes around it was clear of anything happy 1950s.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Chris (Member 10220786) on 9-Aug-2014
    All very sad! That's why my last visit will probably be my last. I will cherish my childhood memories. I moved away over 50 years ago but Southall is still my home in my heart. Chris x

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Aug-2014
    Me to Chiris.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 9-Aug-2014
    I share these feelings,having left Southall 60years ago.
    Chris, what happened to the Harpers,the Francis brothers,Andrian Brookes?????

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Aug-2014
    Same here Michael, as I also left Southall in 1954 60 years ago! From the posts I have read since my brother David and I visited Southall in 2000, it has definitely deteriorated further. I wouldn't have missed that day out for anything as we saw Tudor road school and the alley to it from Dane road, still intact and the same as we remembered it. The White Pavilion was still there then in Spikes Bri... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by dennis legge (Member 10281999) on 9-Aug-2014
    I too left Southall in 1954, and visited again in 1980, and vowed never to return, I prefer to remember Southall as it was when I left, my Memory now is getting worse, but I still remember collecting Shrapnel after Air Raids, SaT. Morning Pictures with Tom Mix, Bill Boyd and many others, we had no TV, but we had a Radio and Itma, Dick Barton etc. Such Happy Memories of the REAL SOUTHALL.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 9-Aug-2014
    I Have been back to southall for weddings funerals etc. but not stayed since about 1980. That time We took our 2 children to visit their nan in Derwent road. We decided to walk to Jubilee park, where I spent many a happy hour as a kid. It was a sunny day, but when we arrived we were the only people there. I noticed the shelter had been burnt down, which was a shock. Just then a council van drove ... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Aug-2014
    Yes, Dennis when you remember collecting shrapnel it says it all. My brother and I used to climb over the tennis courts in Spikes Bridge park to find the largest pieces of shrapnel. We had quite a collection between us. Dick Barton - I can still hear the music that went with that, and ITMA and Tommy Hanley, and Mrs Mopp "Can I do yer now Sir".
    Wonderful stuff, and as you say happy memories of the REAL Southall.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Aug-2014
    Jubilee Park Tom. That takes some believing doesn't it. Who would have thought all those years ago that it would come to this!

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Chris (Member 10220786) on 9-Aug-2014
    Tears in my eyes! So sad. It's gone forever, except in our mind. Michael....I have tried to find out about The Harpers, The Francis Boys and Adrian without Success. It seems that we will never know. Take care my friends. Keep OUR SOUTHALL in your heart and in your mind! Chris x

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 9-Aug-2014
    Yes I agree Chris, it's still there in our memories. Even the pubs live on.
    It used to be a bit of a joke between my wife and I on a Saturday evening, she would say what do you want to do tonight, my answer was always a quick one in the Bee hive and then to the Lady Margaret to see my Dad. Which we thought was funny seeing as we now live in Weston Super Mare. Can't even dream about it now seeing... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    back...sent over 7 emails....to them ..back now after 3/4 days of..

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    yes can go straight o nans grave easy corner so not too hard find stone all good....traffic horeendous there and most towns around.went nans grave sundays flower water tap cut grass scissors but scared now..too scared of most of it ...ok quiet areas north rd dormers lady marg and norwood green..edges edges..not in the heart of it all.too changed since 1970 yrs..too bad

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    yes was lucky over 10yrs ago carol...got photocopy map and plot of couple..page info..record .ours 1893 and some yrs before that Havelock..........but family tree hoards massive work.lack staff they charge for severeal yrs now most do...craze of massive tree work genealogy..huge time .cost staff..recession lack council money social security and council costs to so many.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 12-Aug-2014
    My sister used to live in Allenby Road, backing on to that park. Can you imagine living there now with all that going on at the back of you. They left years ago and now live in Norfolk.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    lovely denis go spring etc good....plan plots on by gate.entry Havelock and hortus......cemeteries church graveyards always difficult job though...so many so massive...names carve faint or just grass plot...so many...dry day not wet soil

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    yes agreed colin....broadway etc..thanks for your info.....totally agree colin...thanks

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    tom...plough pub norwood green is nice....lots football at wolf pub...green north rd plough north rd open...

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    best wishes dennis legge and all...tom we go Weston holidays .lovely pier gt museum..sand sculpture and all...gt Weston tom.we enjoyed..holiday........many of the urban towns cities..have drugs drunks.over population unemployment etc...to some extent over last 20 and more yrs....but millions of .us.as always .homes careers jobs schools.lifestyle.good all our lives....traffic hard..hope police man... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 12-Aug-2014
    Yvonne glad you enjoyed Weston, what you do not know about the town is the drug issue. We have several rehab centres in weston, and have the dregs sent here from all over Britain. A good percentage do not go home, they stay. In some area,s At night Weston is less safe than southall.
    We were recently burgled, and you can guess who the police recon did it.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    yes hear of Bristol etc...unemploy some ..out of huge work areas ..is bad..for trouble..so all over country...areas problems yrs now,,,,we had 2 good hols Weston..liked helicopter museum.etc

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    just back from gt holiday hamps west sussex surrey..in reply to you tom...

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 12-Aug-2014
    Glad to see the Plough pub in North Road is still open-we lived almost opposite it 1933-1954

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    yes lots speak well of it and today..green still the same

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    nice photo mike of when it was rural..farm workers pub..low small framed old rural pub.then later by 1930s..rebuilt to one we see today...sparrow farm was of north rd area...local stuff has always interested me and photos etc..as people went on through the decades.places etc..pubs landmarks..we always say turn right at pub..or such like...London tv .news today..planning permission has not been law... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Aug-2014
    very quick hot sunny sunday.few yr ago...coaxed hubby drive me to the quiet area..have never gone to main centre areas.since massive change..lady marg rd not too bad.new white pvc windows doors.quiet.dormers Allenby similar.saw building of new modern school.very quick coax hubby to north rd..pull up green.took photos for chris grove terrace shrubbery .school passage.north rd school .lovely..kingls... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Aug-2014
    Yvonne-glad to see you trod my old turf in North Road

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by thompson (Member 10241148) on 14-Aug-2014
    Like Chris and many others, Southall holds a place in our hearts but things move on. Its letting your siblings know of the family history and where their they originate from. I have told my Grandchildren of this site and they find it interesting.
    For those of you who helped in locating "Jack"
    Dance's name on the Thiepval Memorial; just to follow up, my son is visiting the site with my 11 year o... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 14-Aug-2014
    That's lovely to hear Thompson.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    yes trod it ..mike..30 mins photos...but walked it daily as kid etc.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    that is so good of your son...best wishes to them..dance on Featherstone rd boys school stone carved names memorial...out on display southall green..dance name..glad you love nostalgia memories as we all do..and pass to the young great..good wishes to you..and all.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    THOMPSON>>>>>dance engraved stone memorial southall..will put photo..on fb today southall site now.......but mr Thompson..if your family can see posting..or memorial is displayed southall green...

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    Thompson.....southall displayed.stone reads....john henry dance ..also known as .henry john..jack...1917 5 mar death sergeant 10225..age 24...2nd battalion royal berks regiment...son of Alfred dance of bisley..and wife flo dance...15 regina rd.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY TUES 12 AUG FOR PAULINE...HAVE GREAT WEEK.CONGRATULATIONS FROM US.!!!!!

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by thompson (Member 10241148) on 14-Aug-2014
    Thiepval Memorial sent us a Certificate with "Jacks" info on. Have also contacted an email link to the website and they are getting back to me with more info.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 14-Aug-2014
    I don,t know about my last visit but my next is in a few weeks time to a wedding anniversary. I intend to have a wander round and shock myself with how much it's changed. But the question is can I feel safe walking around on my own, or where should I keep away from.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    good mr Thompson......clear on southall green memorial carved name .his details...fb..

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    tom...denis will say...fb.several live there ..several a lifetime...lady marg north rd Allenby ok.quiet sunday lunchtime..norwood green nice...broadway all blocked refurbish traffic problem...120 bus goes through ok .from.norwood green south rd.....high st goes through ok..207 or such bus along uxbridge rd ..ok southall pk..red lion.ironbridge viaduct....bottle neck as going back so many yrs south... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 14-Aug-2014
    Tom i go back on a regular basis i have never felt threatened in any part of Southall.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Aug-2014
    like places in uk .and abroad beware.have yourself in care mode..millions people ok...but the old saying in wrong place wrong time..be nice to hear of your nice memories visit.,,,,,,.we enjoyed norwood green memories dormers lady marg north rd...spikes bridge pk ..bridge canal.ironbridge viaduct windmill lane 3 bridges tentlow rd..nice..

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Aug-2014
    Hope you heed Darryl Young's advice in FB about Southall Park Tom. He said "I would never sit like that in that park like that nowadays, and by the time you took a picture, that camera would be snatched from you. Not a safe area now".

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 31-Aug-2014
    Never got to southall, people we stayed with warned about the traffic. But had a visit to Uxbridge, completely lost. No spitfire, no RAF site. No narrow high street. No idea where Burtons was. Saw Cliff Bennett there.
    Had a drive past Hillingdon hospital, both pubs next door closed.
    Drove past my past employers ex site (Westland Helicopter)
    which is now the site for a new ASDA.
    The party was ... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2014
    good you had visit yes changes uxbridge etc...we liked helicopter museum Weston had nice long visit there..dad worked Heston airport

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2014
    Northolt raf airport has 2 huge size spit hurricane memorials and services there at memorial stone.....near polsh war memorial...queens flight there..helicopters ..services post office there..Olympics 1had.typhoons there to go across London security....preserved some .history pubs uxbridge hig st.they do historical walks....hq churchillraf battle Britain..plot table...many schools go many yrs open... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 31-Aug-2014
    Tom. I used to go to Burtons most weeks to go dancing and music. Brian Poolenand the Tremeloes were regulars there. I recently went to theatre to see 60s groups and one was tremeloes. Only one original member and he looked like some old man dragged off street in old baggy grey trousers and baggy jumper. Very sad and made me feel old too.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2014
    war plane models huge are visible from road western ave a40,,,also at entry gate ruslip rd west end rd.....traffic centre southall.....quiet time north southall ok though...western ave into..north part of lady marg rd..dormers school..north rd...quiet really and can pull up in car....along uxbridge rd..east.southall park ironbridge ..quiet time day ok.....3 bridges norwood green ok..traffic....not... more >>

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2014
    hubby went to lampton Hounslow grammar with searchers lead...we went to lampton pk free marquee see them..group.gt songs...show was gt..and boo
    tleg beatles there were gt...

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 31-Aug-2014
    We had the same in Weston, one Searcher, one Holly.
    Had several 60,s nights at the theatre. Some good nights some not so good.
    Although the Manfreds were best.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 31-Aug-2014
    That'll be the day was best show I saw recently.

  • Re: Last visit to Southall? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-Aug-2014
    gt 60s..taped weekly all pops off radio..so many so good..

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This site by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 7-Aug-2014
Down again but only for a couple of days. Can this site be moved on to Facebook.
No Idea myself, but thought I'd ask the question.
  
  • Re: This site by Chris (Member 10220786) on 7-Aug-2014
    I don't know the answer, but someone else might! Chris x

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Aug-2014
    I very much doubt this site can be moved to facebook but you can of course start a new group on facebook if you don't like the ones already on there.Just call it a different name and invite Southall Knowhere members to join.

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Aug-2014
    I very much doubt this site can be moved to facebook but you can of course start a new group on facebook if you don't like the ones already on there.Just call it a different name and invite Southall Knowhere members to join.

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Aug-2014
    It may be back but already playing up. I'm out.

  • Re: This site by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Aug-2014
    Yes I agree with Dilys. Just start a new Facebook page. Make it a closed group. Call it "Oldies from Southall" or something.

  • Re: This site by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Aug-2014
    I think its a good idea to get Yvonne with us if we can

  • Re: This site by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Aug-2014
    Or Silvers from Southall

  • Re: This site by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Aug-2014
    Or Silver surfers from Southall

  • Re: This site by Carol (Member 10254505) on 7-Aug-2014
    Very good Denis

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 7-Aug-2014
    If anyone decides to set up a new group let us all know. I do like Colin's posts from the old local papers though on are you an old face. I think he set up this group after a little trouble with the original site. You can't please everybody it seems.

  • Re: This site by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 7-Aug-2014
    Well I,m for staring a new site, and agree Yvonne needs to join us. Her knowledge and research is an asset and we do not want to lose it.

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Aug-2014
    Yvonne already has massive input in are you an old face of Southall but goes under her maiden name Eve Ackers for those of you who have not tried this facebook group.

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Aug-2014
    Sorry, should have read Eve Acres.

  • Re: This site by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 8-Aug-2014
    I thought there was a connection.

  • Re: This site by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 8-Aug-2014
    I didn't set up the "an old face of Southall" Facebook group, that happened a few months before I joined it. I was asked to become an Admin earlier this year, as was Yvonne/Eve, Eve declined the offer.

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 8-Aug-2014
    Sorry Colin, my mistake. As you were administrator I thought you had set up the group.My apologies

  • Re: This site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    gt colin grateful admin..louise ..barbs mayo .annie murray..lovely lukvinder..3 more yrs gt admin........myself.5 yrs now .flickr..knowhere...the clock wizzes round badly..time gobbled up...fiddly work... .3 huge yrs or so then fb...hubby me just..getting to essential phase..to get loads done..many admin.are70 ish.yrs.old fb....time ahead.is easier.spoke to louise of admin etc..to find time in tim... more >>

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 12-Aug-2014
    Sorry Yvonne, but I object to your remark about the other facebook site having rough and offensive members. I have been a member from before the new one was set up and on the odd occasion that something offensive has been posted (very rare) the administrators quickly remove them. Let's not start a war over the two sites,either join both or stick to the one you prefer. Lifes to short for trivial things like that.

  • Re: This site by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    just repeated what was typed told to me by newer site admin...quality is the key..they are pleased that they when it happened other site at that time..they broke away from..it was at that time..problems...times have been rough and problems...glad you say it is ok now...they went through time..when it was not...so pleased that you say the other site is ok now.....repeated bit of info I was given by... more >>

  • Re: This site by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 13-Aug-2014
    I do know a little about why a new "old face of Southall" page was set up and a lot of it was to do with private messages sent to members rather than what actually appearing on the FB page and a falling out between Admins, but that is all water under the bridge now. The only problem I have with the original page is that I was blocked from it, and I still do not know the reason why, but as Dilys sa... more >>

  • Re: This site by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 13-Aug-2014
    Good advice Colin. I didn't know you could send private messages and can't imagine why they would block you.I shall continue to follow both groups because I find things that interest me on both.I do find your postings very interesting though and people on the other site are missing out on these which is a shame.

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High Strreet by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 4-Aug-2014
I see road improvements have started on Southall High Street, can you remember the shops along there when the cinema was the Gem. I used to buy model aircraft kits from a hardware shop. Next door was a pipe shop. Never see anyone smoking a pipe these days let alone a shop steeling them.
Names of shops I mentioned please. And more.
  
  • Re: High Strreet by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    Yes, I certainly remember the "Gem". It was known as the local flea pit.The last time I ever went there some dear little soul was peeing in the aisle! Whereabouts in Southall did you buy your model Aircraft Kit Tom? The only pipe shop I remember was Arnold & Son next door to the National Provincial Bank in South road. Butlers was on the corner.

  • Re: High Strreet by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    The only landmark I can remember in the "Gem" neck of the woods was the Southall Norwood hospital opposite,that we all used to call the Cottage Hospital. The last I read on Google was that it is being demolished and flats and houses built there.
    Oh, and of course the Manor House that everyone knows.

  • Re: High Strreet by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    Tom i can remember the cafe at the the bus stop across from Manor House i think the Teddy Boys used to meet there

  • Re: High Strreet by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    That would be in the mid/late 1950s.

  • Re: High Strreet by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    P.W. Dilloways was one side of the Gem & the other side was the United Dairies yard, i used to buy my model aircraft kits at Devannys (not sure of spelling) in King Street or the Arcade in Uxbridge or the big model shop at the top of Greenford hill on the Ruislip Road

  • Re: High Strreet by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    On the opposite corner of the Cottage Hospital was a fish and chip shop, and the Library further down Osterley Park road. No idea of the name of the shop, but I remember we bought some there once, probably after we'd come out of the Dominion.

  • Re: High Strreet by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 4-Aug-2014
    Wimpey along there somewhere. Mother in law worked there.

  • Re: High Strreet by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 4-Aug-2014
    Next to the Gem, towards the town hall was a hardware shop, that did the Kiel Kraft Kits. Didn't sell models but for some reason just those little models. Cost about 4/6. Absolute buggers to put together.

  • Re: High Strreet by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    tom wimpey 70s etc yrs...along towards palace gaumont odeon cinema south rd west side...wimpey photo on southall fb..about 4 shops south of cinema..lots memories those that used it...icecream .milk shakes etc...still one in hayes high st and ruislip high st..now..

  • Re: High Strreet by Chas Chand (Member 10277855) on 29-Aug-2014
    Im pretty sure the Airfix Model shop was near (opposite) the fire station near the Town Hall. There were scaletrix car tracks in there too.

  • Re: High Strreet by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-Sep-2014
    they do say that yes...

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Murder in Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 10-Jul-2014
During my years in Southall(1928-1954) I can remember only one murder. This was a sad domestic incident,where a man murdered his wife.They lived in rooms over the cafe near the Gem cinema   
  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 10-Jul-2014
    that's sad Michael..not been murdered yet ha 40 yrs this week..hubby just brought card home from his work friends today he told me to answer door tomorrow ...hush think flowers..got coupon for meal etc weekend.voucher..26 yrs memories mike.gt southall.so over café by the gem...gem has been tudor rose nightclub disco several yrs but closed now think flat penthouse to be..white art deco heritage l... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Jul-2014
    I can't remember any murders in Southall. The only murder which horrified me was the murder of a Mrs Maitland in Cranford Park Hayes. Mrs Maitland was evidently on her way to work, cutting through the park on April 30th 1957. Three days later her body was found in dense undergrowth in the Park. As far as I can remember no-one was ever found guilty of this crime. As Cranford Woods was not far from ... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 11-Jul-2014
    I think there was a murder in Ash Grove of Westbury Avenue nr Allenby Road in the mid 1950s think it was a women not sure if they got anyone for it.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    yes 1957 don't think they got anybody for it..july park festival walks free event annually .lots go good car parking..nature and history talks.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    few in google on it..1957..http://www.truecrimelibrary.com/crime_series_show.php?series_number=11&id=1324

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    1957 one..park...lady came on our site while ago said her aunt..said her dad never got over loss of his sister
    http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=569&name=Muriel%20Maitland

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Jul-2014
    Does anybody know about a Dr Moore of Southall who evidently was murdered by a drug addict?

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    yes several spoke of her think 1980s times.norwood green...would have been in gazette..found her in canal..suspect drug addict don't think they got anybody.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    1972 murder moore .newspaper on today facebook.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    apr 1972 naked body dismembered.found canal body taken to norwood green police station..norwood rd doctor age 77 eva moore...joseph walsh charged age 37 appeared in court

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    had not long retired .battered to death in her home found naked in canal..police felt they had the weapon..unemployed walsh age 37..eva moore.off norwood rd norwood green.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    1972 june trident plane crash all deaths crooked billet pub area .staines heathrow plane in google good links.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Jul-2014
    Thanks for that Yvonne. Couldn't believe it when I saw it all in Facebook from Colin's newspaper cuttings just now. Terrible thing.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jul-2014
    77 yrs old so terrible he unemployed 37 bet drugs april 1972 terrible...man drove his car went dragged a part ..cart took parts to police station.norwood green....asylum is was ..just east off tentlow lane off 3 bridges read they let them some out to buy sweets or such...today max secure unit criminals by 3 bridges high wall 20yrs now or more.....

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 12-Jul-2014
    I recall that when Mrs Muriel Maitland was murdered I cycled the area helping to look for her bicycle. Sometime later a man was arrested for some other serious crime (murder??) and was suspected of her murder but he was never charged.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Jul-2014
    bill yes In google..yrs around then..another was Ruislip near Ruislip manor station female killed they wonder if was same man murderer....gravel pits water..they searched bike body etc..cranford Heston..was another of Heston area over those yrs..also

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 12-Jul-2014
    I remember when Brenda Nash was found murdered in Cranford Woods not far from where I lived, many years later when visiting a friend I found out that Brenda was a cousin of her husband.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2014
    very sad

  • Re: Murder in Southall by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 13-Jul-2014
    The biggest murder is what they have done to the Southall I remember.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 13-Jul-2014
    Unfortunately Roy the moving pen having writ moves on

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jul-2014
    Jean - I think you will find that Brenda Nash 12 years old was murdered and discovered in a Hampshire Wood. Her murderer was Arthur Albert Jones and he was given life imprisonment. It was Mrs Maitland who was murdered and discovered in Cranford Woods. To my knowledge her murderer was never found.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 13-Jul-2014
    Has anyone any idea what the crime/murder rate is in Southall currently??

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 13-Jul-2014
    The current official statisics are here:

    http://www.ukcrimestats.com/Constituency/65794

    Whenever I see charts like this the quotation "Lies, damn lies and statistics" comes t... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 13-Jul-2014
    Pauline:- Thank you for pointing out my mistake, for all these years I had thought it was Cranford Woods that poor Brenda was found, it made a big impression on my life being that I was only a year or so older than her when this awful event took place.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2014
    MIKE>>.PLEASE ....what was ..the fisherman..giant fish on his shoulder back..you spoke of southall bridge area....firm..yrs..how was it showing up along long high side of building thanks.....you spoke of it..southall factory..skippers..etc firms..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 13-Jul-2014
    mike got your item....thanks ..1939 ish skippers sardines..letters skippers down side huge lite up letters..tall factory chimney..........scott emulsion cod liver oil etc...giant logo sign fisherman with big fish over his shoulder..1950s etc,.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by thompson (Member 10241148) on 14-Jul-2014
    On the subject of murders, I spent the weekend in the City of London. They hold Jack the Ripper tours of the murder scenes. One being Mitre Square, which is adjacent to where my daughter has her flat. She actually looks out onto Mitre House in Mitre St and Mitre Sq. This Building was the head office of Kearley and Tonges. (International Stores)

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2014
    back .been out most day..site

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2014
    yes IT tea etc stores.grocery..kearley..yes tv has mitre sq .and murders..we went to docklands museum they had all the police etc collecton on display..so much there...yes pub ,near whitechapel..of the murdered women several used..blue guide walks talks .and the square warehouse..my aunt supervisor kearley .piecework they got extra money work done she liked her workmates yrs..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 14-Jul-2014
    Murder is now so common, that it very often doesn't make the news. A day without any murders in London would now be the newsworthy event

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 14-Jul-2014
    I believe that the ceramic sign for the Scotts Emulsion factory that was seen from the railway is preserved somewhere but I have failed to find the reference to it that I must have seen. I wonder if anyone else can trace it? The following websites may be of interest.

    http://www.chemheritage.org/discover/media/magazine/articles/28-1-the-man-with-a-fish-on-his-back.aspx?page=1

    http://www.bri... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 14-Jul-2014
    There is a reference to the Scotts Emulsion sign in Pevsner's Guide:

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AuvCfuvUy-0C&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq=scotts+emulsion+sign+southall&source=bl&ots=ZqIv6LawYh&sig=3QZjbAwNi8Xr1ofecmWV-CBOEvU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XzrEU8rfKamV0AW04IHQCQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=scotts%20emulsion%20sign%20southall&f=false

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2014
    one huge advert board of fisherman sou'wester fish .in photo new York by bridge...southall lady said she went to Norway bensen in recent yrs said southall one is there....hq .bensen.of .scott emulsion cod liver oile etc..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2014
    poster advert of it....on brit library Euston.online page ...
    http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/evancoll/a/014eva000000000u04142000.html

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2014
    156 pound codfish..advert Norway scott of yr 1884 firm
    http://www.chemheritage.org/discover/media/magazine/articles/28-1-the-man-with-a-fish-on-his-back.aspx?page=2

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 14-Jul-2014
    all here the advert..the bottles..etc...Bergen Norway..
    http://simontalks.com/2009/02/18/remember-scotts-emulsion-cod-liver-oil/

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Jul-2014
    Jean Kirby - Sorry it's taken a while to get back to you. Computer problem. I'm sorry the murder of Brenda Nash had such a bad effect on you all those years ago. I was expecting my second baby at that time, and it upset me as well. There was a young girl who had been assaulted by the same man as Brenda, but not killed. Fortunately, she was able to provide the police with valuable information about... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jul-2014
    3 days off with strange message on their screen..seems back now.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jul-2014
    At last 3 days, but at least they let us know.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 18-Jul-2014
    What a job to log back in tonight. Sent me everywhere.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jul-2014
    how they survive.dont know..the more modern ..huge used sites get all the advertisers backing advert use.promotion.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 19-Jul-2014
    Mine was working OK over the 3 days, but l didn't have anything to post.
    However, when l switched on just now, loads of stuff from 2011 came on the screen!!

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Jul-2014
    Yes Keith - I also had a load of 2011 come up, and everytime I tapped in Southall Knowhere again I got the lesser Message Board and then had to go on from there.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 20-Jul-2014
    I think we are all in the same boat. When I log in I,m in 2011 with Roy's rice pudding.......

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jul-2014
    Had the same job logging into Southall Knowhere today!

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jul-2014
    was ok today and yesterday..put .sou..in google..uses my computer memory ..up comes top one southallknowhere and click..came up ok..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 20-Jul-2014
    Yes.
    I've just got "Roy's rice pudding" again

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 20-Jul-2014
    Well, I don't get Roy's Rice Pudding. When I tap in Southall Knowhere I get a list comes up and the first one is SOUTHALL MIDDLESEX UNITED KINGDOM THE KNOWHERE GUIDE.When I click on this a List comes up Hook Up Spots etc. To the right MESSAGE BOARD and underneath SOUTHALL MESSAGE BOARD underlined. I click on this and the usual page we are on 10th July at the top appears. However, if I click on th... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-Jul-2014
    been ok couple days now ..but did get hook up..thing for a day.......when 3 days of recent problem with them..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 24-Jul-2014
    Much as it pains me to say it, I think it's time to put all our efforts into the 2 Facebook pages for Southall.

    I resisted for a long time because I'd heard Facebook was all pervasive but if one tweaks the settings one is not constantly bombarded with requests & emails.

    You can just go and look at the 2 sites whenever & not only add text but edit your postings & of course add links &... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jul-2014
    I think you are right Fred. I must admit though that for me I find that the memories of most of the members on Facebook are a lot different from mine. The shops most of them remember are post war, and they are also having a job to remember what shops existed when they were still in Southall which I didn't even know about. I still miss all the friends I remember on Southall Knowhere, but am finding... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-Jul-2014
    I still switch between sites, but i have found more people of my era in Southall on facebook plus pictures i shall continue to follow Southall Message board,

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jul-2014
    I'm still checking in here

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jul-2014
    Are you on Facebook Carol? I thought of you this week as they've been talking about the Le Grands you knew about in Southall.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-Jul-2014
    mike braden knew of le grand Sutcliffe gell..early yrs.southall ..be back in the pages here index search slot at the top to get the month yr ..knowhere site..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 24-Jul-2014
    I agree with Denis it's time to make the switch to Facebook. I have recently joined and see a few names from this site, but not many. But I must agree the age difference is not the same as here.
    Also there is a lot of rubbish loaded up, well I think it's rubbish.
    I also look here first as I've enjoyed all the memories.
    But Facebook being The creation it is there are a few muppets writing comm... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 24-Jul-2014
    Pauline - yes I am on Facebook - Carol Rycraft

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 24-Jul-2014
    Tom is right. I'm still getting Roy's rice pudding.

    Unfortunately there is a lot of rubbish on every Facebbok site, People have hundreds of "invisible friends" who they've never met and never will. Most of them would be of our grandchildren's, and as far as I am concerned, they never got the proper schooling that we did and also, their "values" are different (= almost non existent.) It i... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jul-2014
    Keith, Colin has provided us all with a link which allows us access to all the input on this site up until February 2013 under the heading of KNOWHERE ARCHIVE.

    This is Colin's link

    www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southallmisc/ind... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-Jul-2014
    I agree with what Tom says about the language used from certain individuals on Facebook. I do believe however, that one such person who used vile language to another person was removed. Rem short for remember is quite common.

    As for making friends Keith, I've only got friends with my family, friends I already know, and some from this site. You don't have to have friends you don't want to on Fa... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 25-Jul-2014
    I have a Facebook account but with the minimum information about me. I have restricted my "friends" to family with one exception. I scan the posts infrequently and most are to say the least quite inconsequential. It is useful to keep informed about their life but I very very very rarely post anything. Needless to say I do not "tweet". I am sure that if I were younger I would go with the flow and be fully involved.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jul-2014
    I dont have meany friends om Facebook the friends i do have i have know for over 30yrs, my other friends om Facebook

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 25-Jul-2014
    I dont have meany friends om Facebook the friends i do have i have know for over 30yrs, my other friends on Facebook are people who have crossed over from Southall message board i shall keep in touch with all sites relating to Southall.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Chris (Member 10220786) on 25-Jul-2014
    I belong to FB.......visit both Southall sites. Rarely post, only when I feel I have something worth contributing. I recognise several from Knowhere Group. Sometimes it is very interesting........not always but worth a look now and then. Chris x Give it a try, you might be surprised.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 25-Jul-2014
    As one of the Admins for one of the two Southall Facebook pages (I'm blocked from the other one because I think someone took offence about something I said about the way the page was run), I have to say that you have nothing to be worried about using Facebook, just ensure that you provide the minimum of information on your own page and be selective about who you have as "friends".

    The main adva... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2014
    quite a few and many people did not ,do not like the way the other fb.is...so 3 yrs ago ,they set up the alternative fb...therefore many nice people.are there...when the odd rogue one slips on colin is so good to delete them quickly permanently..

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Jul-2014
    Yippee! I tapped into Southall Message Board this morning and it came straight into Michael Braden's thread at the top. Can't be bad!

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2014
    good,,,havebeen lucky beenok each timeoff mymemory..sou and upitcomesclick

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 28-Jul-2014
    Personally I now prefer the original old face group as I find are you an old face is now going too far from the concept of memories of Southall.Hayes Hillingdon and Uxbridge are now being included a little too much although I usually skip most of these. I may find myself banned from the group now after these comments although I hope not as there are some comments and pictures that I do enjoy.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jul-2014
    great to hear see some more typing on southall...quite lot has been covered obviously.. if you click top right magnify glass .index of massive southall that has been done for so long ..put in your interest ..then bring it back on again for people to see again..and comment ...afresh..best wishes hope to hear from you...

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 29-Jul-2014
    Still getting Roys rice pudding

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Carol (Member 10254505) on 29-Jul-2014
    Haaaaa - hope you like rice pudding!!!

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-Jul-2014
    Saves buying it Keith LOL

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jul-2014
    Keith - Try tapping out Southall Message Board 10th July 2013. It's worth a try.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jul-2014
    I've been having a look at our Saxon road thread that Ron Cox started. I can't think for the life of me what the shops were on the opposite side of Abbott's road, where John's the book shop was. I can visualise the other end where the little wool shop with shiny yellow paper in the window to prevent the sun spoiling the wool, with a little post-office and bakers called Webb & Banks next to it. Can... more >>

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jul-2014
    Sorry Keith - that should be Southall message board 2014

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-Jul-2014
    Does anyone remember Mr Wiles the butcher who had a butchers shop right down the far end of Beaconsfield Road (about 1958) in the small parade of shops there??

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jul-2014
    No Keith, I didn't know any butchers in Beaconsfield road at that time. In fact I was married and living in Langley then. The only time I remember going shopping in Beaconsfield road was when I was looking for paraffin during the war, and sometimes I was lucky.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 31-Jul-2014
    Pauline, in the war you wouldn't have because I said 1958 in my original posting. I think he only bought the shop in 1956, and before then was the butchery manager in one of the Hanwell branches of the Co-Op. But this was just as the area was beginning to change and I think the shop survived only for a few years. I would like to know for how long it was there. I went to school with one of his sons.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 31-Jul-2014
    I wondered what the connection was Keith as I knew you were a Hanwell man.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 31-Jul-2014
    Yes, I haven't been there since after he opened the shop, certainly that would be about 1958/60.

    I seem to remember that there were only about 4 shops in that little parade right at the end of the road. I'm afraid it had to fail as he got his timing (the supermarkets were just starting), his location (it was effectively a cul-de-sac) and his market (demographic population change), all wrong

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Aug-2014
    Today I have looked on google Street View
    That far end of Beaconsfield Road has been completely demolished, and is unrecognisable. The shops are gone without any trace, and the whole area is now the "Blair Peach primary school"

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Aug-2014
    yes primary sch long time now he was teacher died southall....show my street ..very good .so clear camera last yr or so...

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Aug-2014
    Well, that's why there is no evidence of, or little memory of those shops. They were never going to succeed. I do now remember driving down there once in about 1975 by which time I think they were all closed and derelict

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Aug-2014
    Beaconsfield pub used to be..gone.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Aug-2014
    I was down Beaconsfield Road not that long ago the pub was there then i am sure

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Aug-2014
    I was down Beaconsfield Road not that long ago the pub was there then i am sure

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Aug-2014
    beaconsf arms closed long time now..
    http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/53/5372/Beaconsfield_Arms/Southall

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Aug-2014
    closed few yr now...
    http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/results.shtml/el/Southall%3BMiddlesex/

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Aug-2014
    arms demolished
    http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/middlesex/southall_beaconsfieldarms.html

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 1-Aug-2014
    LOADS of all closed pub info all over Britain on

    "The Lost Pubs project" "Lost Pubs in London". You can input any county

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Aug-2014
    Beaconsfield rd lots modern several yrs now huge college campus....huge leisure sports centre along....

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 3-Aug-2014
    I think this is my last post on this site. Where has everybody gone to? How can I find you all again?
    Keith

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 3-Aug-2014
    I have been looking and adding comments on FB lately, but they are not our age group.
    A few names are familiar, but when ever someone starts a link,
    Alls you get is a "me too" comment or " I was there" comment rather than a story or experience as we normally add on here.
    Having ventured on to both Southall sites on FB I, m not impressed.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 3-Aug-2014
    So thinking about let's come up with some new threads to input to and keep this old farts site going as long as pos.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 3-Aug-2014
    Here here! Let us keep this site going

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    Yes, I'm all in favour of keeping this site going.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    Keith - I felt so sad when I read your post. I'm sure we'll try to keep this site going as most of the friends on Facebook haven't got the same connection as we all have over the years.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    I have just lit a candle for all the casualties including my uncle who died on 3 NOVEMBER 1918 on the 100th anniversary of the start of WW1

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    I think we will all stay in touch with Southall massage board.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 4-Aug-2014
    Denis-how tragic you uncle was killed so near the end of the war
    I had an uncle killed in 1915-his came is on the Menin Gate Memorial

  • Re: Murder in Southall by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 4-Aug-2014
    Sorry Pauline

    I really thought everyone was going to be using a different board. If you all stay here for as long as possible, then so shall I. Also just want to report that over the weekend, at last, my bees seem to have come back for the lavender. Keith

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    Thank you Michael he died in the Spanish Flu epidemic he was in the RAF as an airframe rigger on Short Seaplanes at Lee on Solent.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    Keith - So pleased to know that your bumble bees are back on your Lavender. Read a tip that if you find a bee on the floor don't immediately think it's dead as it might just want a drink. According to RSPB mix some sugar in some water and put it near the bee. It could revive it.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 4-Aug-2014
    I liked your definition "This old farts site" Tom. I will just think if it as TOFS in future!

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Chris (Member 10220786) on 4-Aug-2014
    My neighbour has a candle in her window this evening too! We have our lights out now...10pm to 11pm, to show our respect! Most of our cul did sac is in darkness excerpt one house, they are too young I suppose! Chris x

  • Re: Murder in Southall by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 4-Aug-2014
    Lights on in most houses where in live OH WELL.

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Aug-2014
    I had my candle on and all the other lights out while I watched the service at Westminster Abbey. Most of my neighbours did as well. I did think when all the lights went out how much electricity was being saved in that hour by the Electricity Board!

  • Re: Murder in Southall by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 12-Aug-2014
    keith..bees etc.just back from our Chichester etc areas holiday yes lavender farms fields mauve and bees.....ours died end war ..nov 1918.wounds of 3 yrs battles.arras france..northyde suthall publican....on holiday 4 aug .so restaurant .pub.hotel room.not home for candle...but tv was so well done of abbey..lights off .and unknown warrior and good tv coverage ..several days now..as warned couple h... more >>

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Bumble bees and Honey bees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jul-2014
Has anybody noticed whether they have any bumble bees or honey bees on their lavender or flowers this year. Normally, my lavender bushes are swarming with all sorts of bees, especially bumble bees. This year none! A gardener friend of mine said he is experiencing exactly the same. He did say that as bumble bees nest underground in the winter that maybe they were drowned after the excessive rain we... more >>   
  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 13-Jul-2014
    Jean - I think you will find that Brenda Nash was murdered and found in a Hampshire Wood. She was 12 years old and Arthur Albert Jones was convicted and given life imprisonment It was Mrs Maitland who was murdered in Cranford Woods. As far as I can remember Mrs Maitland's murderer was never discovered.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2014
    I have a big lavender crop this year here in Sussex, but no bees

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2014
    lordington lavender lovely..and ..lavender line train.great

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 15-Jul-2014
    I'm staying in Derbyshire at the moment but have only seen a couple of bumble bees in my daughter's garden.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Jean Kirby (Member 10268700) on 15-Jul-2014
    My buddlia is alive with butterflies but not so many bees this year, however, I have noticed that each day there are always a few dead bumble bees on the ground such a shame that they are suffering in great numbers all around the country. I live in Northamptonshsire.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 15-Jul-2014
    For those concerned about bees and the environment, check out - - 38 degrees - - on the web. Also, there's - https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/bees-card

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2014
    bees ...on itv..gardening tv..hour ..tonight tuesday

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 15-Jul-2014
    The lack of bees could be serious.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 15-Jul-2014
    lots bees ..live . on tv.hives.8pm.itv..honey.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 21-Jul-2014
    Saw three Bumble bees on my lavender today, so that's something. Plenty of honey bees though.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jul-2014
    weekend in pond nature reserve area ..saw all sorts..bees.on thistles etc..quite few different butterflies did survey in google free gt chart photos..to see all tick..once yr survey...birds .young ducks etc..long grass meadow reeds.bullrushes so lovely,natural English
    habitat for them all

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jul-2014
    bbc 2 ...now again ..tv bees hour..again on .bbc2.now on.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 22-Jul-2014
    I watched this programme on Honey Bees tonight and found it most interesting. I'm finding that more honey bees are enjoying my lavender bushes, although still only three or so bumble bees. I'd love to know where their hive is.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jul-2014
    yes its a wonder where the hive is .gt bbc 2..gt .show//4 yrs ago had wasp nest in bush..hot path.. we dealt with..tissue fine thin grey papery.

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jul-2014
    got attacked by bunch of bees today....they stole my nectar points///

  • Re: Bumble bees and Honey bees by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Aug-2014
    Happy to say I've got a great deal more honey bees on my Lavendar bushes but still only a few bumble bees. Still, it's a good sign for the honey bees.

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photos by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 21-Jun-2014
Can somebody please refresh an old mans memory on how to view photos on our site ?   
  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    roy....yours you kindly gave us been on there yr now..very nice....flickr.southallboard photostream in google....best wishes to you roy.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    roy..yours...milk.horse .depot...win..shield outside pub.group....board 52......
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/81447106@N05/

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    your hardy...shop.....photo you roy in chair.good photo.
    board 12

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/52959565@N05/

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    roy in google....just type southallboard...click enter.........and up comes .long one of southall photos...

  • Re: photos by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 21-Jun-2014
    Hi Yvonne, I went and had a look at a couple of the southall boards and saw a few pictures of poor old Southall football club. I used to follow then in the late 50,s and 60,s when they had their last FA Amateur cup run. Beaten by Enfield in the Semi final I think. Any way I had an uncle and a grandad who both played for Southall, and both called Harry Robinson. Grandad I,m told played for southall... more >>

  • Re: photos by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 21-Jun-2014
    Correction to above, I watch them in the 1959/60 seasons cup run. Lost to Enfield at Western road 1-0 in the quarter finals, Enfield lost to Hendon who won at Wembley.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    tom..in google ...put history s f c history up came links

    http://www.southallfc.com/

    http://www.southallfc.com/history.html
    http://www.southallyouthfc.com/club-hi... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    George twyman eldery...southall local hist.society back to before 1960..lifetime.....and football etc...lives dormers wells lane..library might help you if he knows info...

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    harry robinson.79 abbotts rd southall 1914......harry joseph.78 Hammond rd....arthur Richard 32 abbotts rd........tom.140 Clarence st...chas henry grove cottages north rd..1914....William 30 lea rd.....William chas 23 portland rd..

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    some links,,here....
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=1959+southall+football&form=IE10TR&src=IE10TR&pc=CMNTDFJS
    in google

  • Re: photos by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 21-Jun-2014
    Yvonne I,m going to enjoy going through those links.

  • Re: photos by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 21-Jun-2014
    Tom, I think it would have been the 1925 final when Southall played Clapton at Millwall's ground, Southall lost 2-1.

  • Re: photos by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 21-Jun-2014
    Tom, I managed to find a Times report on the final and there is no mention of a H. Robinson in the Southall team, this was the only time that Southall reached the final in this period. However the period 1925-35 was a very successful time for the club with them having good cup runs in both FA Cup and Amateur Cup over a number of seasons, so perhaps the story about your grandad became a little distorted over time.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    ok tom..gt work colin

  • Re: photos by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 21-Jun-2014
    We'll done Colin, what I have got is a medal which reads southall FC winners WMFL 1906-07 followed by his name.

  • Re: photos by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 21-Jun-2014
    So thinking about it he would have been well past it by the time he reached 1926.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    tom..goog in google
    http://southallfc.blogspot.co.uk/
    1906 photo wmfl
    1938 photo mrs edington with team
    1838 photo southall phoenix.jim scully player and team

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-Jun-2014
    good list winners all yrs ,.some for southall being winner are..1910...1911..1913..1922..1923..etc.....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_Charity_Cup

  • Re: photos by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 21-Jun-2014
    Hi Yvonne, I have been playing and came across the Southall blog site, and from comparing from the very few old pictures we have on him, he looks to be the one on the front row at the end with the tash. That's in the big picture at the top of the page.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 22-Jun-2014
    that's marvellous.it is nice site..and photos good...am glad..

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2014
    several days off now back the site

  • Re: photos by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 26-Jun-2014
    So pleased to see the site back again. I thought it had gone for good this time

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2014
    just seen account of war .Northolt airport
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_Ruislip_Wellington_accident

    wellington bomber plane crashed just behind western ave polish war memorial .station approach..6 crew 9 passengers killed oct 18 1942..2 women on ground killed who both had 2 children..death due to decapition.struck by plane. which caught fire.mrs reay.32 yrs old..very sad.indeed..7yr old... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2014
    yes sort of 3 days ..thought so.keith

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 26-Jun-2014
    Just read 1942 Ruislip Wellington crash thanks Yvonne most interesting.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-Jun-2014
    yes October.very sad.

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 28-Jun-2014
    Heard Southall Cottage hospital moving to the Dominion arts center,

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 28-Jun-2014
    How sad Denis, and what is going to be put in its place?

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2014
    it is in google couple months now....not say what happens to Carnegie library

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 28-Jun-2014
    oh hospital....google says because of new ealing hospital...southall it is due to close...library moves into dominion art centre....many cottage hospitals have...closed last 30yrs

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-Jun-2014
    1940s film Heston..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZXTehVY_gQ

    has Woolworth hardware counters Hounslow high st..bell pub with army raf marching parade.
    spitfire whole plane but wreck in park.collecting money for new spits
    war savings b... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    I ngoogle...some hospital services went to new ealing hospital uxbridge rd...the front building..in photos on southall green the front old building of yr 1890...1991 called penny sangam .2006 closed went to Greenford place.....
    http://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/southallnorwood.html

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jun-2014
    Whatever changes that are made for this hospital, it's still sad to see another Southall landmark disappearing. Interesting though to read the history of the Southall Norwood hospital.

  • Re: photos by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-Jun-2014
    The mention of Osterly Park Road evokes some old memories.In the later years of WW2 my patents had a Belgian refugee as Lodger-he was the Belgian Liason Officer for Southall, and had an office in Osterly Park Road

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    it is a nice rd ..lovely houses..north side Carnegie library but library shut..due to reopen books computers in the dominion art centre that they built..southall green west side...

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-Jun-2014
    I looked up in Google to see when the library was built, but couldn't find a date. It did state however that there will be no public access to the Martinware collection at the library from the 16th June 2014. The new improved exhibition room will be opened in the new Dominion Centre later in the summer.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    thankyou Pauline that was kind of you...knew a girl that went there down end may.. when she heard library closing..,she saw the small items martin there...over the yrs many of the donated 200,,went to pitsanger mansion..I saw them yr 2000 4 rooms display great free entry....break in 2006 so far way locked away now until secure idea to open again....so southall 2014 only had few small pieces that ... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    Pauline...in google.pdf comes up..opens ok...type southall-ealing 13 southall library Carnegie opened 1905...Pauline Carnegie payed for from usa. of great fame.pdf booklet.it opens ok...says art nouveau lettering above the door.so heritage listed architecture...huge size. lettering .architecture heritage listed .triple arch/entry//can see in streetview..Carnegie payed for library.
    https://www.fli... more >>

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    in google..
    scroll down..photo of the wide front of library .lettering art nouveau above door .is.southall public library norwood..carved stone ..booklet says 1905..opened..photo of manor hse.
    http://maninblue1947.wordpress.com/category/my-web-diary/
    other link gave you is pdf booklet of ealing library librarian of southall pages info..1905 says etc...

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    lovely ornate art nouveau roof shapes brick elaborate front..photo.
    southall library 1905
    http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1165243

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-Jun-2014
    another in google.dominion arts centre close sept 2014 to oct 2014 for buildingwork new extention library etc.opens oct.£3million..lovely street view zoom close .gt nouveau front..to the roof Carnegie trust fund payed in 1905 for building..so scrolled and carved there the Carnegie,

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jul-2014
    What a state the Norwood Cottage hospital is in. That always looked a lovely building. The library doesn't look too bad, but for how long! I'm not going to look at any of it again. It's too depressing.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jul-2014
    street view 2o12 changes to south side of Osterley pk rd......have a feeling they will preserve the 1905 Carnegie trust payed for library art nouveau building..the architecture.by jones

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jul-2014
    Faceboook, ;are you an old face ; nice pic of swimming pool on the rec

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jul-2014
    Faceboook, ;are you an old face ; nice pic of swimming pool on the rec

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 2-Jul-2014
    Yes, it is nice Denis. All in colour. Haven't seen anything of you on "are you a old face from Southall". A few of us are on there now.

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jul-2014
    Hi Pauline have not downloaded anything yet but i will.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2014
    yes pool do..save as .and it goes to you computer folder pictures ..gt one..

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2014
    denis if you mean put photo on...click camera symbol..and itg oes to your computer photos and download...also click the word {add photo } and it does the same..

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2014
    denis..click words... write post.. and it lets you type your comment..

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jul-2014
    Thank you Yvonne will do.

  • Re: photos by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jul-2014
    ok best wishes

  • Re: photos by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 9-Jul-2014
    Thank you Pauline

  • Re: photos by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 9-Jul-2014
    Nice to see another friendly face from Knowhere Denis.

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Cleo Laine by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 7-Jun-2014
Just to start a new thread I have reposted what I said on the Bus Routes thread:

In her autobiography Cleo says the following:

"At Featherstone Road they (her parents) started a boarding house which roomed and fed mostly Irish labourers, single men and women and families. It must have been successful because they soon rented the house nex... more >>
  
  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2014
    lovely have it that she left school 14 but did not do sing seriously til 25 yrs old had 4 little jobs on off..mellow lane uxbridge rd hayes seniors went for while......small kid photo Clarence st with sister ..so born 1927 to 1932ish...1935 Featherstone rd infants sch so 8 featherst...yes was big building of our photo owned by welch ancient Featherstone hall...had farm behind yrs ago was workhouse... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2014
    lived about 3 doors away rom dominion..one person moved in the hse when cleo family left....brother cleo was alex married local...he was gd jazz singer drummer and at white hart ...langridge local 1st hubby but divorce 25 she works sing with .dankworth.tour

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2014
    board 21..photo backyard clarence st 3 kids age 3 to 6 ish yrs..cleo eldest and sister...then must be move to featherst 8.....Clarence Woodley sweet shop...

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 7-Jun-2014
    I remember mum telling me they lived near Cleo Lane but i did not know she whet to Dormer wells i wonder if she has been back to see it now.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Jun-2014
    My friend Colin Edwards' Mother (they lived in South Ave Gdns) was a contemporary of Cleo Laine and said Cleo used to sing at the Salvation Army, if I remember correctly.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 8-Jun-2014
    Fred, your friend's mother must have known my mother as they would have been the same age and my mother also lived in South Avenue Gardens prior to the family moving to Northcote Avenue.

    I have found one little mystery about the school Cleo calls "Lady Margaret" as at one point she says it is in Montgomery Road, Southall, but as far as I am aware there is not a Montgomery Road in Southall. I wo... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 8-Jun-2014
    Cleo was a friend of Babs Perry my sister-in-laws sister. Cleo did live in Orchard Ave at the time she went to Dormers. John was a brother.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 8-Jun-2014
    Hi Colin, I'll tell you something else about Colin Edwards, apart from his mother knowing Cleo Laine, his father worked in the workshops that made the original Daleks and he was always asking us for spare bike pedals we'd get them from Greenford Dump(because that's how the Daleks were propelled by a man inside).

    My Aunty, Uncle & Cousins also lived in South Ave Gdns at No. 22 the Founts.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    got photo gdad southall charabanc lots pubs used them day out easter seaside.....my 2 aunts...and my uncle s family..all lived south ave gardens....built 1930....gt to hear of cleo..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 8-Jun-2014
    According to Wikipedia,Clao went on to Senior School at Melling Hill Lane Snior School ,Hayes

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 8-Jun-2014
    Hi all, I started this off yesterday with my original question in the bus routes thread. My reason being that my dad said he used to lodge at Cleo Laines parents before he married in about 1936. But dads address on their marriage certificate is Southall Ave Gardens. So I'm trying to put 2 and 2 together, but at the moment it's not adding up. Needless to say mum and dad are no longer around to solve the mystery.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jun-2014
    Tom, I've got the 1936 Electoral Roll for Southall if that would help.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 8-Jun-2014
    Correction from last entry, address is 10 South Ave Gardens.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 8-Jun-2014
    Carol that would be great can it be emailed. Flynnthomas@sky.com

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 8-Jun-2014
    Another piece of information in Cleo Laine's Biography stated that she dropped out of school at the age of 14 to begin her quest to find a singing career.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jun-2014
    Tom - I'll email you.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    shame not able to ask of their marriage cert 1936 south ave gdns......if they both there at marriage cert
    he could be with her parents............
    rented maisonettes...when my saunt 1935 lived south ave gdns......1936....before yrs he lodged cleo family.....google says her family moved several times.cleo age about 9 yrs old then primary school....and what with divorce of her parents.......goog... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jun-2014
    Electoral Roll for 1928 at 100 Clarence Street - Sulivia Alexandria Campbell, Minnie Bullock and Charles Ilett. Only a few doors down from where my family were living. There is a story that my grandmother actually delivered Cleo Laine but how true that is I don't know.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    colin message on other thread.......cleo left Featherstone rd....pre 1937/6...divorce of her parents ....so lodgings come to end...if he moves to south ave gns.....1936 ish yrs,,,,,,age 10 1937 cleo goes to lady marg primary near her home 10/48 orchard ave,,,,,1938 age 11..she is in same class as colins mum..dormers wells seniors.......leaves school age 14..but ...if another move...she seems to go... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    gt carol 100 clarence some of mine lived Clarence loads did .1800s 1900s clarence families...1920 cleo born 1927 eldest of 3..3 in photo back yard.....gt ....then they move to Featherstone rd for a while but divorce happens........sure.YOUR
    gran did..so many older ladies did..my nans aunt .Heston birthed loads babies layed out dead they said go get granny..all called her granny 1857 born died 19... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    yes thought so...Pauline...thought remembered mellow hayes was county grammar sch hayes uxbridge rd..past yeading lane up near adam eve pub...just in view there north side uxbrdge rd bus stop....so 1940 uniform..she and brother ,,mellow lane grammar age 12/3//1940 ....dormers no uniform.1938 age 11 for her ......but often assessed 1st yr and 2nd yr go to tech or grammar if place vacant..often no p... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 8-Jun-2014
    Cleo lived at Hayes End for a while, this was when she went to Mellow Lane. The break-up of her parents marriage occured whilst the family were in Hayes End, it seems her mother left her father and for a while Cleo and her brother Alec remained at Hayes End with him. She says that when she was 13 she and her brother went to live with their mother at Orchard Avenue, the impression I get from the bo... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    ann gill gt..thanks so cleo probably left dormers age 14..1941..thanks..when back with mum..catchment area.......yes visited mellow good school..modern times when I went..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 8-Jun-2014
    Having re-read the section of Cleo's autobiography about her time living in Featherstone Road and where the family moved after that, I think that they moved out of Featherstone Road in the Autumn of 1936, the family moved quite a few times seemingly whenever the debts built up they did a "moonlight flit".

    Tom, I would not read too much into the address your father gives when he married as it wa... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jun-2014
    Found this about Minnie Bullock - she was born Minnie Blanche Hitchings and married Frederick W H Bullock in 1913 in Swindon. Piece I found said she was a bigamist who ran a boarding huse for Irish labourers and Ben's Cabin Cafe at 200 Hanworth Road, Hounslow.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    had read she came from Swindon....oh ..bigamy 1913 etc yrs ..fair bit of it many yrs..olden days..working class not afford divorce solicitor etc...less easy get divorce..or such...thanks carol..new town southall factories rail canal.etc....they came from all oer 1900s 1930s etc...huge swell growth town..rows old terraced hses then..rows 1930s built also...like 2 towns spread..1800 vicar said 33 dw... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    1935 my 2 aunts south ave gdns new built 1930...........yes banns read they put address to suit......he may be married st john..or wherever....thanks...colin.. aut 1936 leave feathers,,,,debts loads labourers working class moonlight flit...1900s southall mr meads wrote of it..rent to pay debts.....seasonal work..but my gdad did brickmaking .southall.1900s yrs then ag lab farm mkt gardening lab wor... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Carol (Member 10254505) on 8-Jun-2014
    1918/1919 Minnie living with Frederick Bullock at 30A Balfour Road. 1928-1931 at 100 Clarence Street with Alex. In 1933 they were at 27A King Street. In 1947 at 48 Orchard Avenue. Alex is not there but daughter Beryl and husband Geofrey Kendrick are with her along with several other people (10 people in total). In 1956 Minnie was at 200 Hanworth Road, Hounslow. When I looked at Electoral Rol... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    yes near asylum dominion..6/7 /9 or such Featherstone...said 3 or 4 doors away from dominion.she saw it built 1935 gracie opened it too huge massive trouble crowds...so interesting carole...10 at orchard her and beryl..Swindon upbringing was amazing wilts.country folk..village pre 1913 but rail town...she was quite a girl...glad cleo got gt life for herself devoted couple dankworth and settled mar... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    carole ..historical directories many yrs now in google free 1914 post off directory.......
    http://leicester.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p16445coll4/id/167087/rec/14
    Featherstone rd north side....2..4...6...8 has 1914 john taylor..then 10..12 etc...working mens club...north side...only got 1914 though..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    carol..as you say wedding 1913 swindon....yes 1914 directory southall ..not there no hitchings....and one bullock but west ealing alex at st stephens ave.1914...Minnie 1914/18 war if her bloke went to war....she would be expected to work munitions or rural Swindon wilts land army.on railways or such...... my nan worked ticklers jam factory southall tins jam to troops..her babies neighbour looked after..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Carol (Member 10254505) on 9-Jun-2014
    Yvonne, there is a photo of Minnie in uniform, lovely looking girl. Apparently Alex served in WW1 and was gassed. He came to England when he was 15 after an argument with his father.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    oh that is good..of Minnie...and 15 brave of alex..such early yrs to come to England..ah...call up 1st war and kings shilling..very sad indeed that he was gassed 1st war...photo of one 1950 labour hall southall who was gassed 1st war frail older man later..thanks carol..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    that trio photo back yard Clarence st must be younger brother alex laine..and sister sylvan laine...of alex sylvan Campbell the father..with cleo older sister....sylvan died 1989..1940 trio dd film..theirf of bagdad street urchin...cleo cbe from queen..2 kids with dankworth .son by her 1st marriage..
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0481832/bio

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    cleo married 1947 .age 20...to sailor..george langridge .son stuart ..divorced 1957..1958 married dankworth.son alec 1960..daughter Jacqui 1963..cleo said her dad alex cambell from Jamaica.taught her to sing he sang ..also she went sing dance lessons southall..
    http://www.nndb.com/people/215/000205597/

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    sir john dankworth died 2010..sad for dame cleo..huge loss to jazz..1951 she joined his band.vocals...3 films cleo made.
    http://www.biography.com/people/cleo-laine-39906#the-ever-evolving-talent&awesm=~oGG0V6GmEAwE0x

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    biog in google.....alex came to Europe...fought 1st war..afterwards settled England...married Minnie ...hitchin...alex southall builders labourer..the skilled trained apprentice job of bricklayer is put as builders bricklayer..alex singer musician.......unpaid singing cleo yrs then 1951 johnnie £6 week but asked got £7....tour and to usa....house wavendon bucks..great the stables huge good work ... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    daughter Jacqui..and brother alex .he is bassist and composer.worked together...Jacqui 48 in 2011..after death of dad dankworth.liver comlaint since 20 even though not a drinker a genetic thing.jacqui rsc..actress .and singer 4 octave...married ..in touch with mum regularily..as kids they toured school hols with parents...nannys...boarding school..meeting Sinatra...nice looking girl.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 9-Jun-2014
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2030279/Cleo-Laines-daughter-puts-troubled-childhood-Dads-death-finally-mellowed-mum.html

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jun-2014
    Pauline..your dad......but some 45 in coach workers came to aec southall from their home Walthamstow....thick mist fog..wed 20 march 1929 am....at old track in aec .it overturned.obstacle driver could not see...some injured taken to king edward7th hospital west ealing..but were ok..///tues 29 apr 1929.fair in southall elderly tight rope walker .got ill high up..dangled ..50 ft up..taken to hospital but died...

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 11-Jun-2014
    My goodness Yvonne, wherever did you find that piece of informaton? Yes, my dad would have been travelling from Walthamstow by coach when AEC moved to Southall. He didn't get married until 1930, so would have been at AEC in Southall in 1929.It's a shame we didn't hear much about his life before he got married, but with WW2 etc everyone was so busy with life as it was then. I don't think he was per... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 11-Jun-2014
    Pauline-during WW2 my mum had a young lady lodger who worked at AEC-Betty Halcombe-her home was in Walthamsrow.Memories!

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 11-Jun-2014
    yes remember you saying he bused in..glad he met your dear mum when he moved closer......yes 40s bad war busy 50s 60s mine did not chat much work school shopping washing etc daily the kids..etc.. nobody chatted much...bet he knew of that 45..full bus coach1929 date.fog april..bit injury but ok..it flipped over aec ..obstacle.......open spaces bus stop.rural along there aec ..used to stand in fo... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Jun-2014
    Thank goodness it's back! I really began to think we'd had it. I expect you have been hurrying them up Yvonne.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Jun-2014
    I thought it was the end to.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2014
    emailed all weekend but it was Monday before that they seem to be office day....they were there before Monday so did today repeat emails..repeat ..and at last,..old site pre 2000...advertisers fashions fades ..don't think they get as much now...facebook etc get all up to date advertisers.huge modern sites....pays for sites.....so who knows sincere very best to you all if it goes ..to you all from me and husband,,,xx

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 16-Jun-2014
    Welcome back, had me thinking that's it. What am I going to do now..........

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2014
    wonder if it is weekend that is hard for them....they need workdays weekdays advertisers to finance it.......gt tom denis Pauline...we all thought might never come back....unbearably sad.........hanwell carnival weekend ..still huge park nice one huge one.. 100 yrs.........Greenford do small one in ravenor pk

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Jun-2014
    I thought the same Tom and have decided to join Facebook when I can get my daughter to start me off. There are quite a few members on our site who are already on it, and at least we can still keep in touch as Facebook seems to run similar threads where everyone puts their twopenneth in. I felt really miserable over the weekend thinking it had finished.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 16-Jun-2014
    I checked other messageboard sites Uxbridge & Northolt they were off to so its not just ours

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2014
    yes always is all knowhere towns ..always all off .checked some...before ..yes...often weekends...

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Jun-2014
    Yvonne-please remind me who actually runs the Knowhere site??

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 16-Jun-2014
    Pauline (and anyone else who is thinking about joining Facebook), once you have joined the group to look for is called "Are you an old face from Southall". You will have ask to join the group as it is a "closed" one which requires administrator approval before you can post on it. I am one of the four administrators and we try to approve people as soon as they ask to join, we also try to keep the g... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2014
    don't know mike ..email at bottom..whole page here.....contact....thanks colin..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2014
    mike on this page says privacy policy...clicked it ...it said managers use Oscar music media ltd London E2..address
    http://www.knowhere.co.uk/privacy.html

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-Jun-2014
    Colin - Thank you for that information. I will remember it when I apply to join Facebook.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 16-Jun-2014
    Yvonne-thanka for the information. Funny-where I used to work was in London E2

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-Jun-2014
    gt ok mike..I worked 1966 bbc broadcasting hse..north of oxford st .,,,.tube daily..hubby worked .regent st.pall mall.and north top side of tower London...gt up there lifetime have loved days London.still do often as can..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Bill Henley (Member 10272156) on 17-Jun-2014
    There are two Facebook Groups: "Are you an old face from Southall "(1,655 members) and "are you a old face from Southall" (2,326 members) So I am confused as it would seem a pity to divide the messages. Can anyone advise me? Thanks.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jun-2014
    bill....colin.is admin..of .AN old face....dilys etc .AN old face...the other site.is huge of long years .there have been rifts.problems over the yrs of A OLD face.....so was told the more kindly controlled site AN old face started 3 yrs ago....with many nice people friends ..growing large number..chat like knowhere of nostalgia memories southall with photos...........so colin is admin of AN old f... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jun-2014
    facebook..as a general concern..when you fill in to apply..ask all things..but .identity.as people are told to be.concern of ...you do not have to fill in all their general questions.....closed group so nice of members...........but profile open to all.world wide..so don't worry if you just put basic.join.details....

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 17-Jun-2014
    I have made a mistake-where I worked was E1-apologiea.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-Jun-2014
    E1..gt mike

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-Jun-2014
    Thank you Colin.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Jun-2014
    Thank you Colin. It's going to take me a while to get used to all of this now I'm in!

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 18-Jun-2014
    Pauline dont worry your not on your own.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 18-Jun-2014
    Thanks Denis. That's nice to know.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2014
    up near the top..if you click word photos...right near top side...it scrolls all over 2/3 yrs collection with chat comments nostalgia..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2014
    if you click..word .files near it ..it shows quite few of colin contribution..scroll

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-Jun-2014
    TODAY.kate other gran..not the shop assistant southall one... but typist Bletchley pk with twin sister gran...met marion body who worked with her gran..not having chatted secret yrs..so kate heard all today we went 23yrs ago gt there £8 million refurbish lottery heritage money..gt...lots photos in google..code breakers enigma early computer valves colossus ..james bond spies...etc..gt day out..

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Dilys Boot (Member 10061138) on 18-Jun-2014
    For all of you now joining Facebook why not join both groups. Are you a old face and Are you an old face. A lot of us contribute to both and of course all pictures are instant.Also would be nice to have some older members with their memories and photos.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Chris (Member 10220786) on 18-Jun-2014
    I belong to both groups. There have been some very interesting topics of discussion from time to time. Some brilliant photos, old and new. Well worth joining. Takes a while to get used to it but worth the effort. Chris x

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 19-Jun-2014
    Re Cleo, Featherstone Terrace, if you go on Google Earth, and type in National Sikh Resource Centre,Featherstone Rd, Southall,where this is housed, the whole block is the old Featherstone Terrace,also housed The Southall Workingmans club, and Southall Boxing club

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jun-2014
    thanks will try....was somebody who lived by there neighbour said she was 3/4 doors away from.dominion being built ..biog she saw it...born 1927 cleo....dominion opened by lord mayor London 1935...she saw asylunm before demolished for road widen and dominion...massive crowd ..len said he was there climbed high to watch it..len born 1925..in my aunts class at school...

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jun-2014
    yes got it nice on 2012 street view...Sikh centre corner.junction..corner featherstone rd .white ..red brick new...junction is called dominion rd..swings round dominion art centre green grass trees area around .......yes old Featherstone terrace..Minnie bullock her mum ran terraced hse near just there ..did well and got the house next door .also for irish lodgers 1930ish.irish lodgers .she took in... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 19-Jun-2014
    Saw the bit about Featherstone terrace etc, what happened to the Working men's club. Spent many a happy hour there.
    Last time I visited Hayes I tried to find the working mans in Hayes which was a new building when I left in 1972 but it appeared to have moved. Any ideas.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jun-2014
    Tom do you remember my Grandfather he was the accountant at Featherstone Working mens club in the 1940/50 he was George Albert Wyatt he lived on the corner of Elmfield & Featherstone Road where he had the boot menders across from Hulberts shop & petrol pump.

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jun-2014
    hayes work men club pump lane email and tel number
    http://hayesworkingmensclub.co.uk/entertainment.html

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-Jun-2014
    3/4 links in google southall work mens.....fb site....tel numbers...07525.620628......0208574 3943..featherst terrace....members in google members on facebook

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Southall-Working-Mens-Club/274643285883982

  • Re: Cleo Laine by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 19-Jun-2014
    Although my friend Mauvine and I wouldn't have had cause to know your grandfather at Featherstone Working Mens' club Denis, we did go there a few times during 1946. It was one of our first dance evenings at the age of fifteen. We both thought we were so grown up, and have some lovely memories of the Welsh boys who were staying at the Railway Hotel. We always had such a good laugh with them, althou... more >>

  • Re: Cleo Laine by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-Jun-2014
    Ok thank you Pauline.

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Bus routes by roycouch (Member 10232168) on 23-May-2014
I seem to remember there being a bus turnaround at the rear of the Railway Arms (now The Glassy Junction) when I was a kid in the thirties. Or is my memory playing up ?   
  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-May-2014
    best wishes roy nice to hear you...still got your rare photos on our board..they have had lots of viewings interest..southall green....bus at glassy junction.going round there.could easily .be ..........post office this yr being changed at the moment

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-May-2014
    yes mr meads book says around yr 1926 time....lot of buses turning at railway hotel pub......rebuilding southall station bridge at that time.....

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 23-May-2014
    http://www.my-ivefamily.me.uk/southall830/page21.html

    120 bus route extended ..etc.....1930s new London passenger transport board started....mr meads says ..for period time buses had to turn around those yrs at railway tavern.....1920s...London bridge to southall station....Liverpool st to London station.....mr meads southall book.1920s 1930s ...part 2

  • Re: Bus routes by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 23-May-2014
    Roy

    There is an exceptionally good site entitled "London Bus Route History"... It is very well set out and extremely interesting. It doesn't always go that far back though. There is also another one to look at which is "Red-RF Home page" and I seem to remember seeing some very early maps and I think you will have hours of interest with these

  • Re: Bus routes by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 23-May-2014
    My dad was a bus conductor on the 120 route for many years, including the war years.
    His bus went past the site of the bombed Barrats Shoe shop the morning after the bombing. Evidently there were shoes all over the road.
    It was also where the Purcell girls were sadly killed the night before.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-May-2014
    yes mike...I sat on top front of 120 bus at palace cinema by was shoeshop..could nearly touch the dragons at the oriental roof...ha....seems like it...lovely view so camera photo..is lovely that I have .2 huge dragons heads at curve tiles roof..lovely bus 120..my nans lifeline route back to her family ..off Heston church..lovely norwod green also..Hounslow garage nice big and was gt Hounslow high ... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 24-May-2014
    The early days of the 120 bus about 1952/3 the route was known as 120a i saw the first bus to come down Lady Marg. road about that date. It was later changed to 232 the 120 only ran Saturday noons to Hounslow.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-May-2014
    lovely denis interesting...then.also.roy..think may be talking also of 1920s 30s 40s..turning of some numbers buses at railway tavern hotel became glassy..southall station was popular route..........1928 nan had to move north southall broadway..previously they had walked paths of fields to family./walked factory walked everywhere....bikes came in....later yrs 120 was popular bus...go Heston way..H... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 24-May-2014
    Yes, I remember using the 120 bus all during the summer holidays in 1945 to Heston Farm when I got a casual job picking apples up from the fruit trees and stringing tomatoes up in the fields. There were a number of young children all working there from the local schools, and many from Southall County school, where I had just left! It wasn't very well paid but we supplemented our wages by helping o... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 24-May-2014
    When I was a student,one summer I worked for a month on Heston Farm(summer of 1949/1950?)-worked on the land.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-May-2014
    yrs 1800s 1900s they are all working on heston farm.it closed 1960..nans brother had to retire he is 13 yrs old working there on 19o1 census....kids age 8 onwards worked at times..he died yr after leaving,,lived cottage opposite tythe he had to get out .......horses .steam engine.all used long yrs..nans cousin won horse medals awards from association Denham.for farm horse work.heston lifetime..gt ... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-May-2014
    Your mention of horses at Heston Farm reminded me of a dear old Shire horse who was used to plough the land there. He was managed by a man called "Fiddler". This poor old horse had an open place near his hoof and the flies used to get in it. The horse was constantly stamping his foot on the ground to get rid of them. It used to upset me to see this, but if we were talking about it when we were str... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 25-May-2014
    Pauline- when I worked at Heston Farm, I was Fiddler's assistant-my job was to lead the horse for the plough-Fiddler used to cuss the horse and I in equal measure.The horse sensed I was new, and used to play up!

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-May-2014
    in Heston church by ..main path graves just by grave gate off pavement ..by path saw mr mrs fidler grave..think him unusual name

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-May-2014
    Michael - I wonder if it was the same horse as when I was there? It would have been about five years before you. There were also a lot of Land Army girls there plus a Conscientious Objector. All lovely people. They did offer me a permanent job when September came, but I didn't want to stay after all the school children went back to school, plus the money wasn't very good! It was a lovely experienc... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 25-May-2014
    Thank you for that Yvonne. Yes, I expect it was the same family. It always makes me think of "Fiddler on the Roof".

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 25-May-2014
    yes..ha..........also..mr allen his wife was land army there..Heston church..he .in the last few yrs had stained glass window made...at her death...huge lovely colours..design..land army,,,to the left of the altar..lovely......ours there was mkt gardener all her life local born bred Heston..edie..they worked hard she did..land army ladies ....and 1st war nan and her cousins and neighbours worked t... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 25-May-2014
    After the war, but gone now, there was a Fiddler family scrap dealers Whitton/Twickenham area

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    Pauline.................got photo .1953 coronation party 20 kids fancy dress..mad hatter bo peep etc.norman ave junction northcote ave .kids age 6/9,,ages.approx..from.oneill family lived yrs at 142.nortcote ave..rose lil..Charlie.he worked asylum..tom joseph.a son..lived 142 and spikes bridge rd..area there..

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    in photo wearing gold crown ..ive girl..of mrs ive family...pratchett girl in photo..gt costumes 1953 ..well made gt costumes....labour hall have photo of les ive..by woolworths alley labour hall..now health centre..sid bidwell famous council..often there..many many yrs.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    your gt memory of many along there ..........opposite ive .....128 got heard family..heard cornwall...lovely kids street party 1953.photo

  • Re: Bus routes by Carol (Member 10254505) on 26-May-2014
    I went to Havelock Cemetery last week and saw grave of Elizabeth Ives and family. Took photo. Also noticed there is a plaque at the entrance saying "Commonwealth War Graves". Took photos of graves of two Russian Airmen, same as Denis.

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-May-2014
    Look forward to seeing this 1953 Coronation photo Yvonne. I certainly remember the O'Neill family, and the Rose's next door. I wasn't friendly with either of them though. I was more friendly with your relative Mrs Willans. She was always very kind to me when I was visiting Mauvine next door to her, asking me how my mum was. The only thing was that we left Northcote Avenue in 1952.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    yes knew you said 1952...glad emma asked of your mum....emma was motherinlaw to..our family....will try later on..get flickr..all gone hay wire..not to worry will try bit later...glad you knew oneill...142..2 boys oneill.age 7/8 ish ..In photo..one mad hatter costume..

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    glad you knew of rose ...Charlie worked st bernards...then lil...

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    yes carol got photo that plaque they put it up...about 2 yrs ago new.....list of 75 names in google ..with Russian name also...ive family...ives family....2 lots local many yrs.....can see grave if you put in on your flickr carol...thanks...gt stroll well done...1880s onwards mine in there...

  • Re: Bus routes by Carol (Member 10254505) on 26-May-2014
    Yvonne - I added those photos. I also started to put on pages of the Le Grand booklets I have, but the pages all got mixed up. I need to sort them out and add more.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    lovely will look ..gt grand later thanks so kind of you greatly appreciated......Pauline...others by .along houses..were Maureen..les jackman.

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 26-May-2014
    Yvonne - On the side of Northcote Avenue that Emma lived. The Ive family lived in the beginning of the block, then the O'neill's, Rose's, alleyway, then Willans, Mauvine Stevens, don't know next one, then the Bunces, and the Strange's round the corner in a large house in Spikes Bridge Road. On the other side of the road were the Farrances (they were probably at the start of Carlyle Avenue),the May... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    marvellous .....mayo very large family still local..and farrance local....and 144 granddaughter...........yes some move out some move in...over each decade...they have mortgage purchased them now

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    carol got yours.....just reading study get back.....gt so good kind...so interesting...

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    yes not colin family ive......but the other southall family ives...northyde my family knew ives...pre 1900 and after...mother eliz ives died 79.in 1927..john hubby..and Edward...back to read more of yours carol..hang on....

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    gt booklet lots lovely read ...le grand..mike...mike spoke of le grand...gt work they did and abroad...Greenwich is in the booklet love greenwich days out...central line..so much there gt interests annually Greenwich..lovely flickr you have carol..yes and graves.looks like 1yr old black wood crosses added ...now modern times.russia have info on ancestry on line..cwgc.stones
    .......lost my compute... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    1960 gt booklet of le grand Sutcliffe southall green........northcote ave ..different move in out..number 133..watkins...and near baker....near markwick family and twins barry alan.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 26-May-2014
    left ..south side..next door to emma....oneill...old alice oneill...1950s60s....and rose..

  • Re: Bus routes by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 26-May-2014
    Pauline almost has the sequence of family names right for the families on the western side of Northcote Avenue, but I think the O'Neill and Rose families both lived at 142, next door to my grandparents Les and Marge Ive. I can't be absolutely certain as I was born in 1953 after Pauline moved away, but I do know that Alice definitely lived at 142 and remember her well. 140 and 142 were semi-detache... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-May-2014
    Colin - I remember that there was an alleyway by the side of your grandparents which gave access to the next door neighbours garden, and an alleyway between the Rose's and Emma Wellans which gave access to the neighbours garden next door to the Rose's. I could be wrong, but I can't for the life of me remember any semi-detatched.

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-May-2014
    I've just had a look on Google, and there is only one house next door to your grandparents which would have made them sem-detached. Emma Wellan's house is a very large house at the side of your grandparents' neighbours with an alley, and I'm pretty sure that was number 144. It just shows how wrong I was. Perhaps the Rose family had moved and the O'Neill's moved in?

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-May-2014
    Just an incident which comes to mind all those years ago during the war. The neighbours to the left of your grandparents were a couple with a young baby. Didn't know their name. One late night the baby had been screaming for a very long time, and the police were contacted. The couple, who were out, eventually returned home very late, only to be nabbed by the police, as they were carrying all thei... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2014
    144 was emma..

  • Re: Bus routes by Carol (Member 10254505) on 27-May-2014
    Anybody interested in Le Grands, I've sorted out pages so they are in order and added some more. Maybe somebody will recognise names. Also, piece about Chris Pearson joining and picture of the Soil Mechanics Laboratory in Southall.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2014
    trevor baylis inventor on tv much..went north rd primary lived lady marg rd went dormers seniors..lives eel pie island many many yrs of music groups fame there...he worked at your soil place 1st job....he went to dormers reunon yr 2000...
    http://www.lifeport.co.uk/trevor-baylis-the-inventors-inventor/

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2014
    carol....amazing work all pages there of le grand..thankyou....wedding bells page..mr baker worked there..trevor baylis worked there straight from dormers school...photo of the lab is gt....thankyou gt firm...1960 booklet

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 27-May-2014
    carol...gt photos holy trinity weddings 1960..like our family ones there....mattingley we knew....to dave tattam who worked le grand........secretary there jean lewis ..to morgan...

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 27-May-2014
    Colin, you are quite right in all that you said. My sister phoned me and said Mr O'Neill definitely moved in with Alice Rose and the fsmily.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 29-May-2014
    todays gazette...Northolt airport raf.queens flight London air ambulance etc...2 yrs now new museum..only operational bttle brit left..polish displys and propeller etc..crash 1942 near Malvern ave Ruislip spitfire....vintage war douglas motorcycle...etc...famous bunker uxbridge restore plotting table..keeping it gt for visitors all yr...
    http://syddean.co.uk/book_memories_of_south_harrow_page-5.html

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 30-May-2014
    Thank you for that Yvonne. The devastation it caused was horrific, and so well recorded by the young lad during WW2 in 1942. On a lighter note, I can well remember my brother and I doing the same thing, dipping into the precious sugar and mixing it with cocoa powder when my mother was out shopping. Unfortunately for us, she returned much earlier than we expected and we were caught in the act. We h... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-May-2014
    I have read there was also a Hurricane crashed into the grass verge on the Western Ave. nr. Ickenham & also two Spitfires crashed in Hayes all from Northolt there are no doubt more sites in the locality.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    there was the bad chase...machine uns fihter planes heinkel.near Northolt airort...Northolt fighters hurricanes spit...chased him off south....across uxbridge rd .hayes...dawley rd shakespeare rd,,,in google bad damage,,,says the machine gun.shooting could cause more trouble than bomb......Heston airport target.for Nazis...
    usa .raf fighters there.base.....cranford lane ..kerfew..not allowed we... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    memorial huge size hurricane spit long yrs now Northolt airport models huge size with stone plaque ceremonies there near entrance gates west end rd and old gate western ave..oxford cowley was dump ground of einkel.plane all parts crashes ..nash famous artist in google his painting of it sea of wrecks battle Britain etc kent etc areas salvage.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    Epsom crashes in area battle Britain.etc.Hurricane etc...
    http://epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/WW2Aircrashes.html

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    new one found on Northolt ...war.
    http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=244414;article=8174;

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-May-2014
    I have heard there where more civilian casualties from RAF machine guns than Germans guns in the fight over Dormers/Mornington Road area, Germans thought to be heading for Northolt airfeild

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    yes reports from hayes people in google....bad of machine gunning chasing planes .to civilians etc....than ..bomb

  • Re: Bus routes by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 30-May-2014
    Memtion of the Mornington Road bombing brings back memories! That day I was home for lumch from Dormers Wells school. My mother was in the garden talking to Mrs Pannel from next door. and I was with her. I was aware of aircraft overhead-the Air Raid Warning hadn't gone! Suddenly there was the sound of bombs falling=- we learned later they fell on the Mornington Road area with terrible results.Ne... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    no siren...yes mornington rd 1970s local people those rds still talked of it ....and nearby Ruislip close just west side morningtom road we have photos of houses flattened old pram.etc..rubble...now allotments there many yrs memorial...plaque used to be at fence....my cousin southall born..did observer work..her nephew out in the field..binoculars etc...phoned her ..sightings ..Nazi planes she pas... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    Ruislip and local..war...lots there very good read...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/63/a3946863.shtml

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    everything here ....typed by man who was 4 yr old boy shrapnel wounds till 12 dec septic....he was in st bernards war hospital.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/70/a1951670.shtml

    side roads to Ruislip rd Greenford...13.50pm..lunchtime...30 sept 1940..bombed....and john from Ruislip close whole entire close flattened bombed..we have photos rubble...by Ruislip rd beore Allenby ... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-May-2014
    Was there a bomb near Oldfield Lane Greenford?
    I know there was also a big bomb crater in Castlebar sports field, just on the east side of the station towards Ruislip Road/Gurnell Grove. A big bomb crater in Bridge Avenue Hanwell too, near the Brent

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-May-2014
    About 1957 i met a chap who had lived in Mornington road at the time as a young boy he was shot in the back twice

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 30-May-2014
    About 1957 i met a chap who had lived in Mornington road at the time as a young boy he was shot in the back twice

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    1957 that's sad denis....keith down by brent ..south side load hay pub deaths bombed photo shows they kept the pub pole winging sign yrs..as memorial...gone now lidl supermkt on site....

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    todays gazette photo spit crash in hse Malvern ave.plane photos woman neighbours spitfire in hse roof etc..1942...Northolt airport plane.....
    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/appeal-second-world-war-memorabilia-7153770

    photo crash large photo in link...Malvern Northolt southharrow Ruislip border...where wicks is...just little north of Northolt tube station...

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    bomb sight in google kew archive town halls records arp etc on line now...free ......
    southall Greenford west ealing hanwell ealing.hayes...heston..Chiswick .etc..udating stories also comments..maps there..

  • Re: Bus routes by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 30-May-2014
    Thanks

    I knew about The Load of Hay and I remember the old pub sign. My brother showed me a photo of the pub as it was before the war. That photo might be on the "Cuckooites" site, but I understand that has changed and might still not be there now. I also seem to remember and PLEASE correct me that Load of Hay was a flying bomb/rocket whereas all the other bombs were dropped deliberately ... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 30-May-2014
    parachute bomb text calls it load hay...archive photos text still ..there but site no more..it is hanwell facebook now he is on it ..still lives west coast usa ..started site now he is on fb site comments nostalgia photos..2/3 yrs now..yes have photos of load hay....he lived cuckoo estate like most of the others 10yr site he set up..but died lack of interest..went to fb instead

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-May-2014
    2 large photos load hay.1598 pub...in 6 links here..and dr oates booklet ealing library librarian...parachute bomb as was Perivale bad war deaths king queen came to visit.
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=parachute+bomb+load+hay+greenford&form=IE10TR&src=IE10TR&pc=CMNTDFJS
    in google.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 31-May-2014
    Pauline yes.......syd items.............several in google booklet etc he wrote before he died..lifetime memories local..read it all 2/3 yrs ago,,in google lots photos..

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2014
    denis you probably remember couple people here.knew of the southall green printers press.. pauline...you are good with recent past index knowhere......have tried but no luck yet.....lady asking of 2 people..has 4 photos...they were all at....north rd press .printers...off king st at Clifton rd.southall............any info of the place or anything.....sure we did it here ..man asking for printers t... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 1-Jun-2014
    Yvonne - NORTH ROAD PRESS - THE COTTERS by Mike Hayler 6th August 2011. I hope this helps!

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 1-Jun-2014
    Sorry only knew King & Hutchings in the South Road Yvonne cant help

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2014
    Pauline you are marvellous thankyou...yes was that..gt let you know ..get my notes together 4 people of the press so far of printers...big thankyou my dear you are kind...just got back from stroll.canal river fast stream..bit of rapids..sluice water over ..lock..gt barges.... and thames tug he chatted built 1943 engine 1932..it.towed London docks ships.brass and well kept funnel etc...reed bunting... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 1-Jun-2014
    thanks Pauline.good of you kind.....2011pritchard he was in newzealand ..man in London.looking up ..records info of the printing firm..another Pritchard is.now asking..so have passed on the later comment there .2013 .they probably did not see that one....

  • Re: Bus routes by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 1-Jun-2014
    In Kingsly Ave there was a yard in which a printer plus others used for their business, just around the corner from North Rd. The printer did print a chance ticket, as well as other printing, I think was called Eustase ticket. Sold to help handicapped clubs and others. This was in the early 1940`s.

  • Re: Bus routes by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 2-Jun-2014
    It was the "Useless Eustace" ticket, a competition based on the cartoon of the same name in the Daily Mirror.

    There is an example, albeit by a different printer, of one here:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/71256895@N00/7394645480/

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2014
    that's gt colin ron.in flickr ticket......mirror was had often at west ave 40s 50s and the daily sketch....sport news world sundays.spot the ball etc........mirror andy cap.and flo cartoon strip.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2014
    denis has been ..tony myself went few yrs ago...bbc tv daily 9.15 am and Friday 6th queen Charles wills kate .beaches with heads state .also at Bayeux british cemetery.....bbc spoke with 2 women age 17/18 working long hrs at hq southwick hse.and vets.kindly speaking to us were at the beaches age 18 or such..humbling.and gratitude to them.70yrs..pegasus bridge gliders.we went to museum there...vete... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Michael Braden (Member 10097376) on 2-Jun-2014
    Ron-was that printers near Petriea the chemists?

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jun-2014
    Been twice to Normandy a fantastic experience it should be part of a education for childeren as

  • Re: Bus routes by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 2-Jun-2014
    school trip as well as the western front 1914/18

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2014
    that was lucky school trip...was good 9.15 am bbc 1 today daily...interesting

  • Re: Bus routes by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 2-Jun-2014
    @ Colin

    Are you sure Useless Eustace was Daily Mirror? I thought it was Daily Sketch, and I remember other newspaper titles now mostly forgotten such as News Chronicle, Sunday Graphic, Reynolds News. Most people got "John Bull" every week too

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 2-Jun-2014
    yes mirror lots of the images in google..
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Daily-Mirror-Useless-Eustace-Cartoon-Book-1940s-By-Jack-Greenall-Cartoonist-/131038069423

  • Re: Bus routes by Ronald Cox (Member 10259196) on 2-Jun-2014
    Michael the yard was very large with a lot of garages and separate building for the printer. It may of been a annex for the main printer. There also was a green grocer with a horse and cart which I remember seeing in the area.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jun-2014
    wonderful to think of horse cart etc ..ron...smithy nearby..horse shoes...best wishes to you and family...

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 3-Jun-2014
    just got the 7june 1944 mirror Eustace on back page one square breakfast in bed baby....but page of cartoons strips garth ...popeye etc...jane......one penny 8 pages....we hold the beach head...........what the hun said..80mls fighting....advert mars..lilley skinner...colman mustard toilet soap..huge centre spread huge faces monty eisenhower Churchill...live letters...gt armada..300 sq mls soldier... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 5-Jun-2014
    newspaper 1938......30 aug..school term primary starts Tuesday sept....new north southall housing estates now 1938..100 parents complain..kids walk 1 and half miles to tudor rd primary next week ...complain so keep kids home.protest....they want new opened £40000 lady marg primary half mile walk....3 schools on strike..north rd tudor rd .lady marg......evelyn gardens cranleigh gdns parents 1938...

  • Re: Bus routes by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 7-Jun-2014
    This should be a new subject, but not sure how to start it off.
    So I have seen that Cleo Laine grew up in Southall.
    And thinking back I,m sure my dad said he lodged at her parent place when he moved to Southall before WW2.
    Can anyone tell me if that is true, and if so where was their lodging house.

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2014
    cleo as kid lived Clarence st .went featherston school...think she moved local later....new thread is scroll..to bottom..of the page ..right to bottom..click word there thread...gt to here of yours and cleo

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 7-Jun-2014
    clementine Dinah bullock birth..28 oct 1927.dad alex Campbell..mum Minnie bullock not married at her birth..she took name campbell at school feathers primary southall green...seniors she went to mellow lane hayes ..labourer father they moved about....she did hairdressing...sing lessons..married twice..,,,kates mum carole family from Clarence st 1900yr onwards carole born 1955 there Dudley rd moved... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 7-Jun-2014
    I remember Cleo Laine and her brother when I lived in Northcote Avenue. It must have been in the 1940's when I used to see them. They were usually coming out of Beechcroft Avenue, which was on the opposite side of the road to us in Southall broadway. They were always dressed in school uniform and looked very smart. We noticed them more because they were the only black children living around there at the time.

  • Re: Bus routes by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 7-Jun-2014
    In her autobiography Cleo says the following:

    "At Featherstone Road they (her parents) started a boarding house which roomed and fed mostly Irish labourers, single men and women and families. It must have been successful because they soon rented the house next door."

    She later gives the address as 8 Feathersto... more >>

  • Re: Bus routes by Colin Harris (Member 10240389) on 7-Jun-2014
    By the time she was 13 Cleo's parents had separated and she was living with her mother at 48 Orchard Avenue, she talks about attending Lady Margaret School, but I think this was actually Dormers Wells as my late mother Joyce Ive always said she was in the same class as Cleo (they were both born in 1927).

  • Re: Bus routes by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 8-Jun-2014
    lodging houses Hounslow...and Featherstone rd irish labourers 1913 etc yrs 1927 yrs....lots took in lodger help pay rent..1800s 1900s common...massive growth labourers coming in for work...spread travelling in..lodgings houses lodgers etc..so common all kids went in one bed..try get room for lodger etc..on census image forms filled in by them..

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Is there a better way? by Fred Gough (Member 10041641) on 16-May-2014
Is there a better way to get to the latest comment on our current topic, other than hitting the 'page down' key 24 times?   
  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    don't know

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-May-2014
    I agree with you Fred this latest thread of ours is getting a bit too long. I use the down arrow, but I think the best thing is to stay on the thread you have now opened. Nice to hear from you!

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Pauline Sykes (Member 10235828) on 16-May-2014
    Hi Colin. I've only just seen your entry on 25th April at the very end of "Charles Gayford Vernon" thread about an addition to your Southall Miscellaney entitled "Harefield at that time of day". I haven't read all of it yet, but the old photos are wonderful. Thank you so much.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    it is nice...several of us our family parts originate harefield...gdads mum .and his two great grans..canal..village harefield...1917 Australia many amputees there became heart hospital...cwgc graves st mary there..tended so well australia

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    the bronze hare and Australia map globe at the green where Australian soldiers from hospital took the air 1917/9 yrs..with village Edwardian clothed villagers....
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/55935853@N00/3364264268/in/photostream/

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    http://www.hillingdon.gov.uk/article/14360/Harefield-Village-Green

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    http://www.londongardensonline.org.uk/gardens-online-record.asp?ID=HIL023

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    lots aec photos google machine shop men..design dept staff etc...and general links..goggle aec southall.....lovely huge size fish 2014 aec club millpond Greenford rd many many yrs..gt photos..private fishing council leased to aec.owns..
    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=aec+southall&qpvt=aec+southall&FORM=IGRE&id=CCF783EB7231471770791715C8B765A675883789&selectedIndex=0#view=detail&id=CCF783EB72... more >>

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    carol......worked out date for one of your photos..but other s...some..not guess at
    date....playhouse cinema Greenford went by 1940ish..opposite and east of redlon pub...film on.polly of the circus leslie howard and marion davies..1932.....says full supporting program....davies silent screen star retired before 1940..comedy and musicals..photo old 1930s cars.quiet Greenford before huge built up ... more >>

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 16-May-2014
    Thanks Yvonne. I can remember my sister taking me to the Playhouse in Greenford to see a 3D film. We were given those cardboard glasses. I couldn't have been very old. When I was 16 I worked at Honeywell Controls which was on the other side of the road to where the Playhouse used to be. Don't know what building is there now.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 16-May-2014
    Loved the film about Hayes and Hardlington, especially the Hayes fete in the rain? Men building - no health and safety in those days.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 16-May-2014
    yes gt 1956 film...yes went to Granada Greenford 1960 film...yes offices opposite many yrs changed hands but work along there.....famous sherry funeral .many many yrs there..

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-May-2014
    Carol the building you mention Honeywell Controls has gone i think it is now housing.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Carol (Member 10254505) on 17-May-2014
    Thanks Denis. I think it was quite a new modern building when I went to work there.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-May-2014
    I think it was built about 1956/7

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 17-May-2014
    1961 name change etc..links in google..............often wait e1 e2 e3 buses along there..busy queues of people daily......traffic up the hill to traffic lights Lloyds bank corner gone now..opposite gone red lion.
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=honeywell+controls+greenford&form=IE10TR&src=IE10TR&pc=CMNTDFJS

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 17-May-2014
    I remember a second hand car dealer on the Honeywell site before it was built

  • Re: Is there a better way? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 18-May-2014
    I remember the Playhouse being open into the mid 1950s but it went before the Granada did, and the 55/97/211 bus crews hated getting to the stop directly outside as the "last house" tipped out onto the pavement. . . Yes there was a car dealer there and the name Howard Meacham rings a bell with me but might be wrong

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-May-2014
    thanks keith yes....playhse closed big circus 12 sep 1959 with vic mature......load hay pub
    war bombed deaths.photo can see they kept the swinging name tall pole pub sign as repect.......along near Greenford hanwell bridge south side..........but now lidl supermarket there now.....

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 18-May-2014
    Greenford hall opened 1966 by dame edith evans ...still going strong panto.....events etc...had some attention to it nicely.to keep nice....
    playhse....http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/29845

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 19-May-2014
    Thanks Keith i thought there was a car dealer there

  • Re: Is there a better way? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 19-May-2014
    Denis,
    There definitely was, but it's only the name I cannot be certain of. There was definitely a car dealer in the area by the name of Howard Meacham, but I'm not certain of the name as there was another one just slightly down the hill of Southall Bus GArage, and THAT one just MIGHT have been Howard Meacham. But I know we are right that there was one, plus one more up near Greenford County ... more >>

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-May-2014
    meacham we bought couple cars from and had serviced etc....there many yrs gone now....west side top lady Margaret rd ...along near from Greenford grammar up near Ruislip rd...with was taylor Woodrow behind Meacham...1970s yrs 1980..we used

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-May-2014
    Meacham today wembley ealing...etc..in google
    http://www.measham-selfdrive.co.uk/

  • Re: Is there a better way? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 19-May-2014
    AH!!! So it was Measham not Meacham. I have found him and he is still alive, running a charity, and this is what it says about him on the charity (WellAid)website..........
    “My name is Howard Measham I first started working for myself in Greenford when I was 17 years of age I earned very little money and when I was twenty (I am now in my 80s) I went to work for a very well known Garage propr... more >>

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 19-May-2014
    very grateful keith..google is gt.....glad we used them many yrs..spare parts etc... esso petrol garage opposite..17 yrs old 80yrs old..marvellous gt memories keith denis and tony and myself....was shocked when it had gone there many yrs.....name in use today locally...

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-May-2014
    Meachams garage i am certain was called Elbornes garage in the 1940/50 dad used to got his petrol there, there was another car dealer on the corner of the long block of shops & flats on grammar school side called Moorland Motors about the same period.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-May-2014
    PS Meachams/Elbornes garage now Tescos

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 20-May-2014
    I used to go with my dad to buy petrol from Elbournes garage, Shellmex at the price of 4/6 a gallon. Oh happy days. You could also get a puncture repaired there in those days. All you will get at a petrol station to day is milk, papers etc.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-May-2014
    When i started driving in 1962 petrol was if i remember was 2/11d a gallon, it would be even cheaper in the 1950 when dad used to go to Elbournes

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 20-May-2014
    yes good price petrol 70s loads gifts on petrol..gave away items gifts or..greenshield stamps....esso many yrs east side top lady marg rd..by Greenford grammar.west side goes into was taylor wood row tall hq office block.area.......baby mallards coots .nest swans along..by.canal.......lots canals lots countryside life now...

  • Re: Is there a better way? by keith williams (Member 10241513) on 20-May-2014
    It used to be "Free glass with every 4 gallons"..... Now, in Scotland there is "Free Scotland!!" in graffiti on lots of the walls there, and on the big devolution posters. Some wag has painted "with every 4 gallons" on some of the posters

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Tom flynn (Member 10263070) on 20-May-2014
    Dennis you are right, about petrol costs. When I put the normal 4 gallons in on the way home from work in the late 60,s it came to a pound, so Dad must have paid approx 2/6 for Shellmex back in those heady days.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by DENIS SEXTON (Member 10247112) on 20-May-2014
    That would be about right tom, nice one Keith.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by thompson (Member 10241148) on 21-May-2014
    A pal of mine was related to the Meachams's.
    I always remember his wedding in the 60's, as he got two hoovers as a wedding present from them.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-May-2014
    lovely

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 21-May-2014
    mr Thompson did you see my comment.....mr dance is on my photo of .Featherstone rd scholars 1st war death memorial with soldier on top...even though he is not on st john wood board names........southall large memorial statue now in western rd west side down behind fence .by brent rd by junction pub by canal...by 105 bus stop,,,

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 24-May-2014
    I remember petrol at the White Swan Garage 1963
    4/2p a gallon and was leaded, causing you to have engine decoked every 10 to 15000 miles

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Yvonne Butler (Member 10237916) on 24-May-2014
    1963 .dad had scooter then..managed to get car few yrs later..leaded petrol gt we have unleaded now

  • Re: Is there a better way? by thompson (Member 10241148) on 28-May-2014
    Yes Yvonne saw the Featherstone Memorial.
    Have since traced George "Ruffy" Rowbottom's Military Records. he was in the Royal Fusiliers.
    The family are now all carrying out further research on our family tree, which on my first wife's side goes back to the Earl of Sussex CIR 1600.
    My Father in Law Eric Sussex played bowls for Middlesex and ran a Fireplace manufacturing company in Hanwell. I thi... more >>

  • Re: Is there a better way? by thompson (Member 10241148) on 28-May-2014
    I can remember paying £1.00 for Four gallons of petrol in 1960. I brought with dad a 1956 Vauxhall Velox , coloured white, when all else were mostly black. Dad got it from his boss Sid Brand, scrap metal dealer and road haulage contractor whose yard was at Norwood Gree.

  • Re: Is there a better way? by Bob Burnard (Member 10252769) on 8-Jun-2014
    I remember buying a Vauxhall Victor from Peter Hinton Motors, which was near Hanwell bus garage in 1964, he also had a showroom opposite the Manor House.

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